Obama Set To Announce New Superdelegates After Pennsylvania Primary

The LA Times reports today on how Pennsylvania fits into the larger Democratic primary race, and has this following observation about Obama and superdelegates:

Today in Pennsylvania's hard-fought Democratic presidential primary, there will be a winner and a loser. But the winner might not be the one with the most votes....

Obama strategists said Monday that they expected to announce a series of additional endorsements by uncommitted superdelegates shortly after Pennsylvania votes. A strong showing by Obama in Pennsylvania would give superdelegates more comfort in coming forward, but a bad loss might send them back to the assessment stage.

Read the whole article.

Comments

[epsiloneon]

The way the dems are running this show makes me wonder if Rove is in charge. I hate it and don't understand why we need an outdated system of state or super delegates. Wouldn't it be nice if the dems would debate several times then let the whole country vote at one time? Wouldn't it be nice to let the popular vote decide?

[Christopher1]

Super what they shouldn't exsist why are they better then us.................

[majseventh]

Looks like the bad showing (huge loss to Hillary) has sent his new supers back to the assessment stage. Probably talking to Hillary.

[BillyT]

"BIG WIN??"

PA spotted her 25% six weeks ago and she "won" by 10.

Don't give us that "he spent so much money" business either. She would have spent just as much as he did IF SHE COULD...BUT SHE IS BROKE!!

She won 12 more delegates than Obama. SIX WEEKS to WIN TWELVE. 2 delegates per week of dirty campaigning, straight from the gutter.

At that rate she'll be caught up to Obama's delegate count by 2009, just in time for the 6-month assessment of the Obama presidency.

THAT'S HER BIG WIN??

majseventh: Do you know what "DELUSIONAL" means? Probably not....Most Hillary supporters are "high school education OR LESS...."

[LBM]

Obama brought it very close and even overcame her in the polls before the voters took a good look and voted. He started at equal footing and lost, and lost big. Yes, that's her big win. Did you see a rush of super delegates come out as expected? No, they are hitting the pause button.

[aht772e]

she didn't win by 10%, she won by 9%. Imagine a basketball team going into a gym witth another good, but not as good team. The better team travels all night to play on the other teams home court, and starts with a 20 point deficit. Meanwhile, the better teams rtecord is , I don't know, 30-11, and the worse teams record is 11-30, but has won some big games. At the end of the game, the better team loses by 9 points. Does anybody really think that they are now no longer the better team? You know, like becasue the giants beat the patriots by 3 in the superbowl, and the vikings beat the giants by 24, that the vikings are 27 points better than the patriots!!!!

I live in PA. It is the second oldest demographic in the nation, and had a huge advantage with Rendell's campaigning and machine. Hillary won. Congratulations . She narrowed her delegate deficit by 10 (pledged went from a deficit of 176 to 166, total from 144 to 134 ) that is good, but it is like a basketball team losing by 20 getting the deficit to 17(and Obama is likely to make up those 10 in NC and Ind). This race is over. HRC and McCain are both going to appoint pro business judges, so they are equal to me, but McCain's judges are going to be awhole lot worse on womens issues than Obama's judges, and my daughters deserve better.

[Bjorny818]

Hey BillyT-
You are soooo right about the majority of Pennsylvania voters ....
so don't pick on poor majseventh . She is proud of her 7th grade education. She has most likely gotten further than most of her family.
I find it interesting how Hillary, through dirty, nasty, old school politics has alienated her once most populated demographics of the well educated and savvy voters: students, young adults, parents, women 25-55 and men 25-65. Because of her scurrilous tactics- she now can only pull the wool over the eyes of the less educated, lower classes and the senile.
She'll scrap around for whatever votes she can because it has become apparent to the majority of the voters that the Clinton's will fight hard for what they want, even if they have to lie. Now that they have shown their colors, only the chemically dependent voters- less educated, out of work and the pharmaceutically enhanced grandma's and grandpa's confined to their new 'Hover Round' wheel chairs.

We need the HOPE that there is going to be some big CHANGE to get this train wreck of a nation back on track again! Not more of the same.

Barb in Tahoe

[kennedy]

That is why Obama went home to cry.

[marc1antony]

you're right, people that refuse to face facts like to twist the math and the circumstances to make themselves feel better about their "little" win. kennedy needs to go and give Hillary some of his/her hard earned money so that she can pay back all the little people that she left unpaid.

she is barely making it and asking for $5.00 that says a lot. Take 5 million out of your joint account with Slick Willie and pay off those vendors that you stiffed.

[JayJ1130]

He announced two more supers today. I hope he announces two per day up until Indiana and N
Carolina.

[Sparklez]

I actually heard something like that

Like a few would come out at a time

Im quite sure the supers knew he would lost Penn. so that would not be a reason why they havent come out. They havent come out yet because i think they're doing it little by little

[kennedy]

Any SD backing Obama now is dumb as he!!. He is going down in flames. And he is going to take all his dumb SD with him.

[RoseFromPhila]

So where are all these superdelegates??? Huh????

[mhaven]

Check the the Obama website.

[majseventh]

She means the new ones in the article that are supposed to announce after the election. It is not happening because he didn't do well at all. A 10% difference is huge.

[dm92]

He's gotten 86 since Ohio and Texas....that's where they are!

[Sparklez]

Where are Hillary's?

[antiprocrastination]

WHY CAN'T HILLARY CLOSE THE DEAL?

PA was Clinton's to loose.

Hillary enjoyed a 16 year name advantage, family roots, to her own credit 35 yrs of experience, decaded of political favors and friends to call on.

Why is Hillary 15-30?
Why is Hillary 158 delegates behind?
Why is Hillary only 24 superdelegates ahead?
Why is the Clinton machine/Hillary millions in debt?
Why didn't Hillary knock Obama out on Super Tuesday?
Why didn't Hillary win her birth state of Illinois?

WHY CAN'T HILLARY CLOSE THE DEAL W/ 35 YRS OF EXPERIENCE, A MACHINE, POLITICAL CONNECTIONS, AND A PRESIDENT BEHIND HER?

Who is the best candidate, who is running the best campaign, who is running on the issues, who is breaking finance records, who is bringing the young and new voters to the democratic party?

[emmaspeaks]

You forgot one more.

Why didn't Hillary have a Landslide in NY. She won by 17 points. Barack won Illinois by 31 points.

[ebanks84]

Probably because they said Obama didn't get any votes at all out of 80 precincts. That was not televised or mentioned in the media, only in the Times. You really think he didn't get any votes in 80 precincts in New York where he is loved by millions? It's similar to his not getting any substantial votes from all those thousands who came out in PA. Hmmmmmm.

[PatrickWalker]

Newsflash.

In a race between Obama and McCain, Obama *loses* in MA since he's tied and you know how late deciders always break. Hillary beats McCain but don't let reality wake you from your slumber.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1088709&format=text

[IndependentPAVoter]

Doubtful just because undecideds have been backing HRC doesnt mean they will sway to McBush in the gen. your logic is off. 1st debate between McCain and Obama McCain drops 10% points nationwide mark my words.

[kennedy]

Mark my words you know nothing about real DEM voters.

Obama is going down in flames.

Mark my words.

[pakaal]

15% drop. The man cannot stand up to either Dem candidate, period, it's just a matter of time before the rest of the country gets to see McCain up against someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

[purpleblue]

Gov. Henry of OK endorsed Obama. Yawn...PREDICTABLE. Obama tanks, his empty suit deflates, he gets Superdelegate endorsement the next day. Only kindergartners lack the sophistication to see through this attempt to distract from how unelectable he is. Susan Estrich was hilarious when asked what Howard Dean was doing after Hillary won PA...her answer? DRINKING. Clinton Haters in the upper echelons of the Democrats are probably all drinking about now. The Hard Stuff. They were duped into drinking the KoolAid, joining the MSM, and giving Obama a free pass for months. Obama rode that train through primaries he'd have lost if his affiliations were known earlier. He rode through caucuses propped up by the dirty work of his legions, who intimidated and cheated their way through. If you were at one you know what I mean. If Obama-leaning Superdelegates have any working neurons at all, they're thinking..."Crap!" realizing how up a creek they are. (If they give it to Obama he cannot be elected. If they give it to Hillary, Obama-ites will cry she "stole it" ...which is, ironically, laughable since she's the one cheated of a fair campaign by the MSM and Dem Party). Then we have thug-like rumors Obama supporters will "riot in the streets" if he doesn't get it. I will stock up on food and water, and I say Bring It On. America cannot be held hostage...even by its own electorate. My new favorite drink? KoolAid spiked with Crown Royal.

[chery]

Wow.... Archie Bunker couldn't have said it any clearer than you did! In fact, I can hear the accent from here! I suggest you stay off the hard stuff, cause last I looked Obama was winning this primary race on all counts. Sorry... but that's just reality!

[purpleblue]

He is ONLY ahead because he was practically burped, diapered and coddled through the first 15 months of this campaign. All his shiny, happy people (read Ozombies) never asked him the tough questions he's trying to avoid answering now, and they cried foul when anyone else did. Just wait until the GOP gets ahold of him. He's going to look back wistfully at Bittergate. With all due respect, I suggest you are better off on the hard stuff than the KoolAid. And in the words of Archie Booker: Sticks and stones may break my bones, but FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT.

[RoseFromPhila]

Yes purpleblue the MSM are so in the tank for obama.... but just wait I see a new horizon in NC obama is not going to take it nor will he in IN ....... things are coming out and his mask is coming off remember the truth will set you free and we will all see the fraud that he is ........ and OMG wait till the Rezko trial really begins......... bye bye obama

[1st2vote]

We here in NC are loading by the train load to vote Obama

[savethecountry]

Purpleblue, if Obama is unelectable, then why do superdelegates CONTINUE to endorse him, even after Clinton's scorched-earth campaign, Wright, Ayers, "Bittergate," etc.? And keep in mind, purpleblue, that Obama could have chosen to run an entirely different campaign and hammered her on the many scandals associated with her prior to and during her years in the White House. And to your comments about "thug-like rumors" and "rioting in the streets," what do you mean by that? I think I know, but I want to hear your response. If you don't get your way you'll "stock up on food and water" and say "bring it on." What does that mean?

I certainly hope that purpleblue is NOT a typical Clinton supporter.

[lea226]

purpleblue I think you had one too many....
Al that talking ,,you have said absolutely nothing about why according to your feeble reasoning ability Obama is not good enough. Affiliations?
Take the man at face value, read his books you may learn some valuable about his character and about government.

[ebanks84]

Just got in from work and heard on MSNBC Nora interviewing NC GOP Chair, Linda Daves who put a commercial on for the Republican party showing Rev. Wright's snippet on "Godd*mn America" and Nora asking her why was she running the commercial even after John McCain asked her not to because it was inappropriate. She said because she wanted to, in essence. And when McCain is running the GOP, she will listen to him then because right now, she's in charge.

Just thought this was interesting. My husband did, too. For those of you who haven't seen the video, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ

[StateofTaxes]

I also saw Nora's interview with Ms. Daves, and the add she is determined to run; it's disgusting. As a female myself, it makes me take a look at why it took women so long to be given the right to vote. In the case of Ms. Daves and her logic(she is running it against local politicians,so she says), it seems her job should be taken, as well as her right to vote; maybe there should be a competency test in her case.

[RoseFromPhila]

oh well, the truth shall set you free....... i am glad it is running again, and again, and again.... keep it going......

[ghop]

The Dems need to get on top of this. The snippets of Wright were taken from the "fire and brimstone" part of his sermon, and omit the redemption lines afterward. It would be interesting if they took the later parts of the sermon and ran those as a counterpoint.

[lea226]

I would tell all the Obama supportes to boycott the tv station when the ads are running.

[smile94965]

Hillary Clinton and Bill clinton lies so much that they don't even care what comes out of their mouthes. She can't win and she would rather try to destroy Obama and help mccain win than have to wait up to 8 years to run again. She is tired and full of all the things that disgust me about politics.

[AlligatorShuz]

The talk around Detroit, Michigan is if Bill or Hillary Clinton came back to this town they would be run out............. They feel Bill & Hillary Clinton used them and now their true colors are coming out..

[Marrob]

North Carolina, another "Red State" win for Obama and a state the democrats will not win in the gerenal election.

[Sparklez]

They already said that North Carolina will probably be a swing state due to all the new voter turnout for Obama

[majseventh]

?? Who said that? I don't think so.

[Dustee]

Wasn't that Hillary Clinton that said "a win is a win"? They also expected Obama to be out of the race after Feb 5th too.

So, you never know, do you? Strange things are happening this year.


Obama 2008

[pakaal]

Hmm....

McCain - Obama matchup: 47.6% - 42.9%, Obama's numbers rising.

http://www.pollster.com/08-NC-Pres-GE-MvO.php

McCain - Clinton matchup: 50.6% - 37.5%, Clinton's numbers dropping.

http://www.pollster.com/08-NC-Pres-GE-MvC.php

I'll give you this much: if Clinton wins the nomination, it IS clear there's no need for her to try and win NC, she's certainly no challenge for McCain in the General.

[StephenJK]

Sorry, but, these numbers are meaningless. Too far out to get any good reading out of them. A week before to a few days is where it's at.

[frank67]

Do any of you remember the 1992 Democratic race for the nomination? Bill Clinton did not secure the nomination until JUNE. Folks, it is now APRIL.
Apparently, none of you are old enough to remember earlier Democratic or even Republican "battles " for the nomination. Many nominations have happened at the party CONVENTIONS.

[cthomp7280]

The problem with your logic is that the primary contests in 1992 started at a much later date.

[Marrob]

These are "Obama Lovers" you're talking to here. of course they really don't understand politics. Their only here because their "Band-wagon" jumpers. Fair-Weather fans if you will.

[emj2740]

Gee there you go with that party unity thing again. I've heard of killem with kindness but your tactic must be insult them as much as possible. Funny how Obama keeps raking in the mula from small donators like me even after Clinton has thrown eveything she can at him. I am a Obama supporter and ain't no fair weather fan. Wow you are living proff you can be dumb and stupid at the same time.

Clinton/Rove 08!

[kiki1966]

Marrob, you are the straw but there were many before you on this camel's back:


If I had a dime for every time a Clinton supporter called Obama supporters dumb, cult-ish, misinformed, dumb, ridiculous, dumb, foolish...I could afford to be that latte-sipping elitist.

Enough with "Obamabot". Enough with the "Kool-Aid" jokes.

We are not unreasonable. We do not drink lattes all day. (And who really cares? It's a free country.) We are not misogynists: if Ann Richards (God rest her soul) was running, I would be her top supporter.

We are passionate, caring DEMOCRATS. I am a working mother. I went to a public university. My husband put himself through a state med school-the loans for which we just paid off after living frugally for years. We can make informed decisions and we are not elitists who don't know the value of a dollar.

I'm tired of your collective anger and your refusal to accept Obama's candidacy. Is this how you want to win?

I used to adore the Clintons and I was so excited that we had two fantastic candidates until Hillary's condescension started bubbling up.

Still, I refuse to insult Clinton supporters because I understand: She is smart, capable and experienced. I don't need to mock you to rationalize my support for Obama.


Thank you all for letting me vent.


Keek

[Dustee]

You appear to be the lover of *corruption and lyers*, and probably NOT a fair weather fan of it either.

[AlligatorShuz]

I understand politics very well! I just don't like Hillary Clinton! I first met Hillary Clinton in 1978, when Bill Clinton was running for governor of Arkansas, and Hillary Rodham had a funky attitude then and I was seventeen years old working on his campaign. She treated campaign workers very bad. The then editor of the Arkansas Gazette called Hillary Rodham the worst dressed woman in Arkansas. And they wondered why the Governor's wife dressed like she was a bag lady... There were days they took pictures of her while she was working for the Rose Law firm and while she was teaching at the University of Arkansas Law School and she looked like she hadn't washed her hair in two weeks. Now this was the First Lady of Arkansas. So I know how phony Hillary Clinton is....

[emj2740]

hmmm I think at that time in 92 I was too busy not inhaling with Bill to pay attention. If it were not for the little weasel Ross Perot there never would have been a Clinton in the White House and they would still be in Arkansas living corrupt lives.

[Mesaywar]

Exactly.

[chery]

All the experts point to a divided and contested convention as leading to a loss in the general election. That is true of both the democratic party as well as the republican party. That doesn't bode well for democrats this primary season! Guess we'll just have to rush into the jaws of victory to snatch defeat. And from one oldster to another, my memory at least can retain that fact!

[BillyT]

Bill Clinton did not rise from the dead. That contest was just plain close.

HIllary has almost 0% chance of winning. She has a 100 % chance of tearing the Democratic party apart because for her to win at all she has to smear the Dem front runner and eventual winner.

Looking at these odds, you cannot compare that to Bill Clinton. She likes to, but the big winner: John McCain.

[lenoirlady]

There just can't be anyone who could watch McCain and then vote for him, none! I'm certain that before all of his trials and tribulations he was sharper and more on point, however NOW? I actually feel the need to rush up to him and say, "Please go back to your room Senator McCain and wash up for dinner. You're annoying the others."

[Missmn]

Seriously, Superdelegates need to pick! And what they need to look at are two things: 1) Who will beat John McCain and 2) Who will be an asset to down-ticket races. The answer to the first question gets closer to "neither one of them" the longer this draws out. The answer to the second is Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton is a liability to congressional candidates everywhere.

[bogananda666]

HillBillary turns off Democrats almost as much as she does Republicans and she's a Republican.

[Wyntyr]

Come on Superdelegates for Obama! We need to wrap this up before the end of June if possible if the Democrats are going to have any hope of winning in November. I will admit I was disappointed that Obama lost by 10 points but it doesn't really change the delegate numbers enough for Hillary to still have any chance of winning. PA was a state that is custom made for the Clinton's. Her father and grandfather lived there and she appeals to most of the demographics of that state. Even Obama knew that! But, at some juncture we have to come together and really make a choice (before Denver).

I do admire that Obama has run such a positive campaign and made a very eloquent speech last night. He could have gotten really nasty at the Clinton's in PA but he didn't. Maybe now is the time that he needs to really come out with the iron gloves. But let's all hope that the Superdelegates will come out (whoever they want to endorse) sooner rather than later.

[majseventh]

Obama outspent Hillary 3 to 1 and ran never ending negative commercials on radio and tv.
After Obamas speech (right after 30 minutes) his campaign released an extremely negative press release against Hillary.
They both went negative, because that is how they win.
Obama or Hillary will have to continue to be negative and into the general. That is how it is.
They say that PA is the path to Pennsylvania Avenue and Hillary won the path.
Any one of them can win. Neither has the delegates yet.

[ebanks84]

Obama is in a "Catch 22" -- he is damned if he do and damned if he don't. Hillary calls him out of his element when she attacks him and complains about him whining when he responds.

[IndependentPAVoter]

I live in PA what negative ads were you referring to?? Obamas ads here were predominately positive and about the issues only.

[WFV]

Does anyone think there's a skunk in the room?

Leading up to the primary, pundits said she needed a 10-point win and a 200K margin in the popular vote to stay in the race.

She got almost exactly that.


I am not questioning the win, just the numbers.

[tipiglen3]

"She got almost exactly that"

Not according to official Pennsylvania reports:
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=12&ElectionID=27
Candidate Votes Percent
CLINTON, HILLARY (DEM)

1,237,696 54.3%
OBAMA, BARACK (DEM)

1,043,174 45.7%

[kipmartin]

i believe the 'pundits' are out to drag this out. its what they do for a living.

[divemate]

I think you hit the nail right on the head. There is too much money involved so it behoves the powers that be to keep this thing alive. I compared it to how many times in recent years the World Series goes to seven games. Each extra game makes so many people money it just makes sense. Its not like these people can go get a job anywhere else. All the jobs have left the country.

[BillyT]

I remember no one saying beforehand that it would be great for her to

1)lose 1/2+ of her 25% lead and

2)get only 12 delegates after 6 of Obama's toughest weeks.

No one would call it a big comeback since she got what: TWO DELEGATES PER WEEK? At that rate she will be leading the delegate count when Obama is ready for his sixth month of presidency??

And how much it put her in the red for 12 delegates? Obama easily got about that many superdelegates over the past 6 weeks.

BIG WIN?? I think the only skunk in the room is the one trying to spin an expected win (at 10%, down from 25%) into some kind of rise from the dead. She staved off the plug-pulling for another two weeks. Situation still critical and hopeless. Clintons do not like euthanasia it appears.

[TinaFreeman]

Prior to PA, Hillary needed 20+ point victories in ALL remaining states to catch Obama.

PA with its tailor-made Hillary demographics, and support of most of the party establishment including Gov Rendell and the mayors of Philly and Pittsburgh, WAS HILLARY'S BEST REAL CHANCE TO GET THAT 20 POINT MARGIN.

She started with a margin of more than 20 points and LOST that margin.

In order to win now, the margin she needs in the 9 remaining contests has gone UP.

Nothing changes here, except that Hillary's numbers just got a little worse.

[GunneraGirl]

Thank you. Well done.