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Expert Support For Gas Tax Holiday Appears Nonexistent

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April 30, 2008 04:23 PM


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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


Over the past several days, some of the nation's leading economic and political pundits have weighed in critically on the proposal of both Sens. Hillary Clinton and John McCain to institute a gas tax holiday this summer.

Paul Krugman of the New York Times said on Tuesday that Clinton's idea, while less "evil" than McCain's, was still "pointless" and "disappointing."

One day later, Tom Friedman, also of the Times, called the idea "so ridiculous...it takes your breath away."

And Jonathan Alter of Newsweek piled on: "Hillary Clinton has now joined John McCain in proposing the most irresponsible policy idea of the year -- an idea that actually could aid the terrorists."

Surely, however, there must be someone out there not associated with a politician or a candidate who supported the idea of a gas tax reprieve -- especially if, as Clinton suggests, it would be paid for by an excess profits tax on oil companies.

I emailed Howard Wolfson, Clinton's spokesperson, asking him to put me in touch with an economic or environmental analyst who favored his boss' plan. He never wrote back.

So I took the task upon myself. I would call experts from all sides of the ideological aisle to get a sense of where the debate stood. In the end, every single analyst I surveyed judged the gas tax holiday proposal to be, roughly speaking, a silly, superfluous, or outright pandering idea.

I started with what I thought would be my best shot, the libertarians. Jerry Taylor, a fellow for the Cato Institute, unfortunately, called the proposal a "holiday from reality."

"What would happen more likely than not, gas taxes would be cut, but pump prices wouldn't go down, service stations would just continue charging what they are charging," he said. "I'm a Libertarian and I don't mind that. But you might not be a Libertarian and you might believe the federal treasury needs that money... Now if this were a permanent reduction of the tax, I would be all for it."

Alright, one "no." Perhaps the free-marketers would be of a different ilk. I was wrong.

"I think it is close to political pandering," said Max Schulz, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. "It is bad policy and political gimmickry. If you want to deliver relief to folks you have to do more than just this little holiday from the gas tax. You have to address what is driving the price of crude oil, even problems with the weak dollar. You aren't going to win any points doing that, however. But you will get points if you get up and say let's suspend the gas tax for a few months... I never have seen the wisdom of playing gimmicks games of the tax code."

Who, I asked, would favor the proposal? "Political advisers to candidates," was Schulz's response. "It is entirely due to the focus of the presidential election coinciding with the summer."

From Schulz, I moved on to the conservative crowd. But Ken Green, an energy expert for the American Enterprise Institute, ended up being similarly dismissive.

"There would be economic sense in eliminating the gas tax completely and replacing it with tolls. That would make sense," he said, "but if you remove the tax now, the things being funded with the money will still need funds. Or it will be funded with taxpayer's dollars from other things. So it will be less at the pump and more in your tax bill."

He went on: "All of these candidates claim to be environmentally conscious people, so what do they want to do? Lower the cost of driving in the summer time when it is the highest demand in the first place."

"I'm afraid," he summarized, "that your record is going to be unbroken in terms of finding someone who will like this idea."

Sigh. I tried my hand with the progressive wing of the ideological spectrum. There too, however, the idea of a gas-tax holiday was dismissed as ineffectual and publicity-driven.

Bob Sussman, an energy analyst with the Center for American Progress, and, for full disclosure, a supporter of Barack Obama, saw little benefit or popularity to either Clinton or McCain's proposal.

"Rather than indiscriminately suspending the gas tax, if we have a revenue source here to help people in need, we out to target the money to people who really need it. And if you suspend the gas tax you are giving a small break to every body instead of a significant break to the people pinched by the high prices," he said. "They might appreciate a small economic break. But I haven't heard anyone clamoring for this."

But Sussman offered a glimmer of hope. He suggested I might be able to find support from transportation workers, unions and organizations.

So I tracked down Roger Tauss, the International Vice President for the Transport Worker's Union, which supports Obama but would, nevertheless, stick to its issues. The results were more of the same.

"It is crazy," he said. "There is a bunch of different reason it is crazy and all the economist are saying it is nuts. First of all it is pocket change and it doesn't do anything short term. It will just put more money in the oil companies pockets. It is typical Washington beltway crap. It is just like typical. They make a big fight over a small, nothing issue, and nothing will ever get done."

Finally, I got a quote from Robert Shapiro, formerly the undersecretary of commerce in the Clinton administration and the author of "Futurecast." An independent voice with ties to the former first lady, however, did not give the expected results.

"Stated as clearly as I can," he wrote, "it's utterly misguided both environmentally and economically. Environmentally, it does actual harm, since it reduces the price of producing greenhouse gases. And economically it's trivial or worse -- by reducing the price of driving it encourages more of it, thereby increasing demand for gasoline, which inevitably pushes the price back up - the consumer gains nothing, and the oil companies and OPEC collect the extra bucks instead of the government."

UPDATE: Even the American Trucking Association, the group the Clinton camp says is most favorable to it's idea, offers a tepid thanks but no thanks. From the group's spokesperson:

ATA appreciates the effort and supports the proposals. But we do have concerns that any fuel tax suspension proposal could damage the already ailing Highway Trust Fund. To the extent that McCain and Snowe's proposals use general revenue funds to offset the hit to the trust fund, that concern is addressed. ATA did not ask for this legislation. And we believe it is only a very short term answer that does not do anything to address the longer term issue of rising fuel prices. ATA recognizes that rising fuel costs have a disproportionate impact on small trucking companies where even a small savings can be the difference in their staying in business.

Clinton, it should be noted, would not pay for the tax break from the Highway Trust Funds. But the message seems the same: this is not the answer needed.

 
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A blast from the past--this isn't the first time a Clinton has proposed a gas tax holiday. And it isn't the first time Congress has told them to take a hike either. From the New York Times, circa 1996:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E5D81139F934A15756C0A960958260

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 05/02/2008

Fake headline AGAIN Huffpo. I wish they would stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 05/01/2008

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/05/hillary_clinton_goldilocks_of.html

Hillary thinks being Goldilocks is a good thing? Umm, Hillary, Goldilocks broke into the bears' home and ate their food, broke their chair and slept in their beds. Goldilocks didn't do anything good for anyone but herself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 PM on 05/01/2008
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'The website Jabberwonk created an online "Gas Tax Holiday Calculator" that lets you estimate your own potential savings, while at the same time pointing out the potential costs.' See the page below for the link, and the link to the NYT article giving the figure of 300,000 jobs lost if a holiday were imposed.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gGCSDY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 05/01/2008

Perhaps he learned from that effort that this doesn't work? At least he seems to learn from previous history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 05/01/2008

"What Obama wished he could say but won't" -- great article on Politico today -- you think Hillary has been vetted? Read this: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10010.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 05/01/2008
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The AP is now a sad reflection of its old self. I don't even see a parrallel here.

1) Illinois is a state not the country.
2) The roads may be in better condition.
3) They probably had a surplus in their road construction fund.

I think there is more to a story than just saying that just because he supports a tax-cut, healthcare,e.t.c. on the state level that he MUST support the same on the national scene.

WHAT IS GOOD FOR A STATE IS NOT NECESSARILY GOOD FOR ALL STATES!!!

Why doesn't the AP get it, or are they just blind by their quest to put a Republican in office?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 05/01/2008
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I live in Illinois and can tell you only #1 is true. Having said that, I think this means Obama has learned and isn't that the definition of experience? Obviously Clinton doesn't have experience with this, so the whole country would suffer from her on the job training.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 05/01/2008
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Good point!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 05/01/2008

Actually Clinton's own state tried it and it failed. Money did not go down. Gov. Patterson of NY says he would not consider it unless Big Oil price gouging can be controlled at the same time -- GOOD LUCK!

Hillary just wants us to assume that Big Oil will play nice. Another GOOD LUCK!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 05/04/2008

HEY Vermont Obama supporters! Who is right? Obama or your Senator Bernie Sanders? I suggest you look at Bernie's proposals and you will see a tax holiday there too! Think HE is also pandering? Think Obama was wrong when he advocated the same thing when he was an Illinios state senator?
Why doesn't he advocate openning up the SPR to burst the speculators bubble and bring prices down?
Obama's backers sure as HELL do NOT want the SPR to dump oil on the market. He is showing himself to be just another tool of the lobbyists. THAT is why I support Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 05/01/2008

Lol at Clinton supporters grasping at ways of making Clinton not look like a tool on this gas tax holiday.

Obama made a mistake in voting for the Illinois gas tax holidy, but he voted against permanently eliminating the tax because he saw how ineffective it was.

Get it, randy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 05/01/2008
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You make no sense! I am sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 05/01/2008

Big difference and AP should know better: State vs Federal.

The federal government is responsible for road and bridge projects and is dependent on that money.

They should start doing there jobs and inform voters on exactly how much they will receive if this takes into affect for this summer and what the costs would be!!!

IF I USE 60 GALLONS OF GAS A MONTH OVER THE THREE SUMMER MONTHS, I WOULD SAVE A WHOPPING 33.00 DOLLARS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 05/01/2008

I read somewhere that when they voted to renew the gas tax break in Illinois, Obama did not vote for it again, having learned from voting for it. Smart man, I'll vote smart over pandering and dumb anyday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 05/01/2008

Opening up the SPR would be a drop in the bucket and just another meaningless ploy. THAT is why I support Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 05/02/2008

IT is funny that Obama did NOT believe W Bush about Iraq, but now he believes him on the oil problem. So Obama says there is nothing we can do about oil prices, yet Clinton DOES say we can do something. Which do you think it right? Bush and Obama or Clinton? The FACT is that the problem is the oil speculators who are driving the price of oil up. Clinton wants to use the SPR to drive the price of oil down and hurt the speculators. To find out the real problem go to Star-Telegram.com/ed_wallace and look at his article Thank You Bubble Boys. Even better, go to the REAL progressive in the Senate Sen. Bernie Sanders and look at his web site and you will see the same tax holiday proposal along with a lot of other measures. So who do you believe again. Bush or Sanders and Clinton?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 05/01/2008

He does not say we can't do anything. He says the gas tax holiday is essentially putting a bandaid on a massive open wound. (my analogy not his). He has not advocated drilling in Anbar as Bush does. He is advocating developing energy sources independent of oil. Which is what we should have been doing the last 2 administrations. It's Hillary that is once again aligning herself with the republican nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 05/01/2008

Saying Clinton plan is gimmick and pandering does not mean he has no plan.

You can read (can you read? Most Hillary supporters can't) it yourself on his Website.

Hint: look for the part that talks about $1000 plus in tax cuts. And that's not all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 05/04/2008
- JFB I'm a Fan of JFB permalink

If proof is needed that Hillary Clinton and John McCain"s "summer gas holiday" plans are a sham, one only has to consider that neither one of them will be president until 2009: well after this coming summer. Just how are they proposing to implement their plans? Are they perchance introducing bills in the senate? If so, where are these bills?

This is perhaps the most blatant political pandering foisted onto the electorate in this entire electoral season: a craven attempt to win votes through deceptive pronouncements.

Shame on them both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 05/01/2008

Sam you really need to get a clue, whats all this hype about "gas tax holiday", it's time you start writing about real issues such as the Rev. Wright controversy. We all know that trivial matters like energy policy don't matter. It is the real issues such as the Rev. Wright controversy that make a difference. Just because no one agrees with Clinton and McCain on the matter does not mean that we should be swayed by your blatant attempts to avoid real issues like the Rev Wright controversy. At least you could have asked Rev Wright what he thinks about the "gas tax holiday". This way you could connect unimportant non-sense like "policital panderering" to real issues like the Rev Wright controversy. Huffpo should me made aware that you do them a grave diservice by writing these fluff pieces instead of covering the real issues like the Rev Wright controversy. Consider that on yahoo.news virtually every story today talks about the Rev Wright controversy. Let's not kid ourselves people say the care about energy policy and the economy, but for you to actually write an article explaining how fooly hardly the Clinton and McCain's proposals are is to just plain attack them for being idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 05/01/2008
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LOL...sarcasm at it's finest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 05/01/2008

Awesome. Well written send up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 05/01/2008

Perfect timing. Just as the despicable Rev tries to say Obama is a politician who will say anything to get elected, he gets this gift from McCain and Clinton. This is further proof that he does not base his policy on the bandwagon. I am so glad this has a little bit of time to play out before the next primary. Little gifts like this one make it worth while to care about electing someone who makes sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 05/01/2008

Why did Obama vote for the gas tax holiday while in the IL State Senate?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_el_pr/obama_gas_tax_fact_check;_ylt=AjGJglSPqBIaVXJG_II50sqs0NUE

That doesn't make sense to me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 05/01/2008

If you actually read the article then it would make sense to you too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/01/2008

It would seem the explanation presented in the article that you provide the link to would have assisted you with your confusion. Here's a quote. Guess you missed it.

"Obama's presidential campaign says the lessons of that Illinois tax holiday influenced his decision to oppose a national tax holiday. The lack of clear results then make him dubious about suspending the national tax now.

In addition, the Illinois tax was paid directly by consumers and increased as gas prices increased. Obama's campaign points out the national tax is a flat 18.4 cents (24.4 cents a gallon for diesel) and, therefore, isn't climbing as gas prices climb. It's also paid by producers, raising more questions about whether they'd pass the full savings along to customers."

Does that help any??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 05/01/2008

That's old news....and Obama himself tells it as reason why he opposes it now.

Obama knows from experience that GAS TAX HOLIDAY DOES NOT WORK.

Hillary knows from experience that PANDERING WILL WIN HER SOME IGNORANT VOTERS. Hopefully enough will see this sham and turn away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 05/04/2008

It would be idiotic to ignore this idea on McCain's part. The city of chicago did the same thing earlier in the 2000s when Daley was up for re-election and his percentage of the vote, which was adimittedly always high, still shot up by 20% overnight. Is the gas tax holiday a good idea? Maybe not. It has lots of complicated ramifications such as what happens if that money is not put into infrastructure, etc. But it is an extremely popular and easy to understand. It's very intellectual to explain all the knock-on effects of reduced infrastructure spending, etc, but very simple to say "no tax, cheaper gas". And, after years of waste on massive scales with things like the road to nowhere, it's hard to drum up sympathy for an argument that the most wasteful committee in congress won't have extra cash to waste.

Is it the best idea from an academic standpoint? No. But that's why we dems always lose; we prize the academic approach over the visceral, emotional approach. It has the potential to be a disaster if not handled right because opposing it will give McCain the best of both worlds; he can be positioned as the guy who wanted to help the little guy but those greedy old dems in Congress wouldn't give up any of the people's money that they have earmarked for their pet projects and it won't cost him an actual penny to do so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 05/01/2008

you want to know who's elitist. watch this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N64fDLplBfQ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 05/01/2008

Do you even know what elitist means? Wanting to give the next generation the same opportunities she and O'Reilly had is not my definition of an elitist! Or are you just assuming that no one watched the whole interview?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 05/01/2008

Yes if you have an 18 gallon tank and fill it once per week you'll not have to pay $3.24 per week or "save" about $40.00 over the summer.

McCain make the statement and Hillary jumps on his bandwagon to help American's cope.

Obama is the only one to say this is not what we need. We need a dialog on real issues and to get to work on fixing the problems.
Of the four largest old companies their CEO compensation was in excess of $35,000,000.00 EACH LAST YEAR.

The gap grows between the haves and the have nots by the hour., and American's need to take back this country now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 05/01/2008

If Obama thinks that saving $40 is no big deal he is out of touch. If someone is drowning RIGHT now you throw them a life preserver until you can get them out of the water. You don't tell them that you'll try to save them if they vote for you!

He was for a gas tax holiday in IL

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080430/ap_on_el_pr/obama_gas_tax_fact_check;_ylt=AjGJglSPqBIaVXJG_II50sqs0NUE

This is just a political game to him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 05/01/2008
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You do realize that the article you linked to entirely counters your argument and provides more support for Obama's position, right? By all means, please keep posting it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 05/01/2008
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If $40 makes or breaks you, you have serious issues. Your statement is ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 05/01/2008

blu:

that $30 is ALL SUMMER, and in BEST CASE SCENARIO. IT WON'T HAPPEN.

Big Oil will take it all away in a second because they know they can raise the price whenever they want.

You get rid of the tax, it opens room for them to raise price, and they will.

Where did your $30 go now?? It went into Big Oil's pockets!!

Much like a parrot, you seem to have no thought of your own, but you do have remarkable recall power of everything Hillary is wanting us to swallow whole, line and sinker included. All you need is a brain of your own. Go find it somewhere!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 05/04/2008

"McCain make the statement and Hillary jumps on his bandwagon to help American's cope.

Obama is the only one to say this is not what we need. We need a dialog on real issues and to get to work on fixing the problems."

And to 99% of teh voters who actually count (i.e., the swing voters), that can be easily hammered home as "HRC and Mccain want to take action, Obama wants to talk about it some more." That positioning worked out soooooooooo well for Kerry, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 05/01/2008

Some argument, insulting the intelligence of swing voters like that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 05/01/2008
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