James Frey And Nan Talese: Oprah Duped Us!

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Amid the Miley Cyrus hoopla, it's easy to forget that there's a whole issue of Vanity Fair that comes out today. And one article in the magazine that is a must-read is Evgenia Peretz' interview with James Frey (supposedly the last interview he will ever give).

The article attempts to be the definitive account of how Frey went from addict to screenwriter to best selling author to public enemy, and how he picked up his million little pieces to write another novel, Bright Shiny Morning.

As Peretz details in the following excerpt, Frey and his publisher Nan Talese claim that Oprah — who went from champion to critic in a matter of weeks — duped them, tricking them to get on her show under false pretense and then attacking them as soon as the cameras began to roll:

As Talese recounted at a televised publishing conference last July, the show invited her and Frey together. Talese initially resisted. Then they were approached with a new pitch. The topic was going to be "Truth in America," and they wanted Talese on a panel with columnists Frank Rich, of The New York Times, and Richard Cohen, from The Washington Post. Given this scenario, Talese agreed. But when she and Frey arrived at Harpo Studios, in Chicago, they were told that the program was not, in fact, about Truth in America; it was about the James Frey controversy. Winfrey told Frey it would be rough, but said there would be redemption in the end. There was no redemption. From beginning to end, it was, according to Talese, "a public scourge."


Oprah, who just two weeks before had stood by the "essential truth" of Frey's story, now pounced on his every other word, while the audience booed him.


"I've struggled with the idea of it and ... " began Frey, in a typical exchange.


"No, the lie of it," snapped Oprah. "That's a lie. It's not an idea, James. That's a lie."


"I feel like I came here, and I have been honest with you," he said at the end of the hour. "I have, you know, essentially admitted to ... " "Lying," Oprah broke in....


"He felt trapped and cornered," recalls Talese today. A spokesperson for Oprah claims that "Truth in America" was always the topic for the show and that Talese had been informed of the full range of questions in the pre-interview. Talese maintained (as she still does) that memoirs have always been personal impressions, and didn't seem to realize that, for better or for worse, the game was now up. She was disgusted at the spectacle Oprah was making, appalled at her manners and at what she allegedly told Frey after the show was over: "I know it was rough, but it's just business." Winfrey denies ever making such a comment. "Once again, the truth is not being served here," she says in a statement to Vanity Fair. "In 22 years of doing this show, I have never said to anyone, 'I know it was rough, but it's just business.' This was beyond business. This was about the trust I share with the audience who faithfully supports the Book Club and buys the books I recommend; and based on that trust, I thought we were owed an explanation about the truth of this memoir."

Read the entire article online here or pick up this month's copy of Vanity Fair.

Alternatively, watch the video of the controversial Oprah appearance at Oprah's website.

 
 

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Oh the systematic mythical self-victimization of the guy. Embarrassing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 05/04/2008

Oprah is a fraud just like Obama. She runs a corrupt all-girls school in Africa where the kids are molested, raped and denied visitation rights by their parents. She threw her weight behind a candidate simply because of the color of his skin, instead of his experience and track record of public service. Please thank her in November, if Obama should steal this nomination from the better candidate, and then lose the general election - which he will. Thank the Huffington Post and Moveon.org too for their lack of judgment as well. We lost in 2004 cause they pushed the hell out of GAY MARRIAGE now they're making RACE the most important issue facing this country and the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 05/03/2008

marco34la: Well, you're entire comment is garbage except the part about gay marriage ... this is a non-issue and I never, ever, ever want to freaking discuss it again. There are about 100 million things more important in the world than same sex marriage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 05/04/2008

What a load of shit this is. Not even going to bother counter-pointing it... Speaks for itself really. But in case you didnt notice, race IS one of the most important issues facing the country AND the world. The ability to get along is something you dont think is important? Ok then...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 05/03/2008

Let's see ... Is the huffingtonpost telling the truth, or is it going after Oprah because she actually no longer supports Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 05/03/2008

I'm going to give Oprah some credit here. I am not a fan of hers and I don't watch her show, but I do think she is sincere. I can't imagine her saying, "I know it was rough, but it's just business", after grililng Frey. I could be wrong, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 AM on 05/03/2008

Cheers to Frey for turning his life around. Is there a biography out there that doesn't contain some fiction?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 05/03/2008

This thread is, quite possibly, the most asinine on this site -- which is really saying something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 05/02/2008

And yet you feel compelled to read it and then express your opinion about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 05/02/2008

Why do you assume that he/she was "compelled" to read it? Don't you think that the huffs are going after Oprah because she is not supporting anymore Obama? Why do you think many of the most succesfull, and I am not talking financially here, people within the African-American community are not Obama supporters? Does not that tell you something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 05/03/2008

Is that true that Oprah is not supporting Obama anymore? How could that be?
Her lack of visibility has been to let Obama develop his own presence. Did I not hear something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 05/03/2008

Little play is being given to the Vanity Fair story that adds to the sordid tale of James Frey, the pariahic neo-memoirist of "Million Little Pieces."

Frey and his editor, Nan Talese, claim they were lured with lies into doing the second TOWS show during which Oprah gave her famous dressing-down. Oprah only weeks earlier had called the controversy "much ado about nothing."

It was only after the New York Times' Frank Rich and the Washington Post's Richard Cohen took O to task for indifference to truth that she stabbed Frey with her tongue.

Frey claims that after the verbal lashing, Oprah told him, "I know it was rough, but it's just business." Oprah indignantly denies this claim.

Connecting the dots has long fallen off the agenda of America's corporate media who finds synergy more rewarding. But no media outlet I know of investigated further the report that Oprah producers knew about claims that Frey's book was fiction.

The final word is yet to be written: Kitty Kelley of "poison pen" fame, is under contract to write a tell-all on Oprah. Kelley's publisher is Crown, an imprint of Random House, as is the Talese's publisher Doubleday. The announcement of Kelley's contract came shortly after Oprah's public flogging of Frey. Payback can be a bitch.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 05/02/2008


"Payback can be a bitch"
You are right about that, especially if Oprah decides to never promote another Crown or Random House book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 05/02/2008

I still say she should have read "Why I Committed Suicide" which is equally outlandish, yet all true and released prior to Frey's poor copycatting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 05/02/2008

James Frey is the author of a million little lies that he represented as honest truth, and it is OPRAH who has duped the public?

So, let me get this straight: James Frey lies about his life story, to his editor, his publisher, the reading public, and Oprah (not to mention, probably his friends and family as well). Oprah finds out that he has been lying and tells him, accurately, that he is a liar. Frey then feels "trapped and cornered" because she confronted him about his lying? Oh, boo-fucking-hoo!

Nan Talese is either the stupidest person on the face of the earth, or a professional liar (oops -- she's an agent so that is probably redundant). She ought to be on the next bus to hell, and Frey should get a job with the liars in the Bush Administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 05/02/2008

She doesn't like people who embellish parts of their book but she doesn't have any problems with Jessica Seinfeld blatantly stealing recipies from someone else. She didn't just steal the recipies - she stole the title of the book and the design for the cover also. Why hasn't she called Jessica and asked her to be on her show where they will talk about "truth" and then have lots of people there gang up on her although she wasn't expecting it? In fact I'm sure Jessica will be back on her show next year. I just read she is stealing...I mean writing...a new book about birthday parties for children so she will need publicity for it.

At least Fry wrote his book and I didn't read it but apparently he just exaggerated some experiences but he was an addict and he did overcome addiction - that wasn't a lie. He didn't lie about his life - he lied about a few experiences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 05/02/2008

Who knows what he lied about. Do you? How could anyone. For all anyone knows the entire thing is a fiction.

Considering he was peddling it as some sort of self-help guide, thats worth taking a look at when it comes to light that he is a fraud.

You seem to have a hardon over Jessican Seinfeld (someone who most have probably never even heard of). Start some kind of truth campaign if what you say is true and try to bring it to Oprah's attention.

I mean what is your point really? That Oprah doesnt REALLY care about artistic integrity and JUST targeted Frey? To what end? Why bother? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

I'm sure IF the shit you're saying about whoever this cook is is true, and Oprah became aware of it, she would lambast her also. I mean WHY not? Oprah doesnt have to answer to anyone except her audience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 05/03/2008

One thing he didn't have to lie about, is the fact that he could deposit wheelbarrows full of money in his bank account, after Oprah promoted his little piece of fiction on her tv program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 05/02/2008

Uh... does James Frey realize that he has a credibility problem? Why should we believe anything he says?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 05/01/2008

You all will be destroyed for dissing the Big O,mistress of the universe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 05/01/2008

Why didn't Oprah call Jessica Seinfeld a liar for "lifting" recipes from another woman's book?
Probably because Jessica gave her 20 pairs of designer shoes. Oprah and Jessica had a kissy-fest on camera.
I read James Frey's book and knew by the second chapter that some of it was "embellished." If Oprah didn't realize it as she read the book, then she's not as smart as she claims!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 05/02/2008

Who cares, did the audience get any free stuff? That's what is important on Oprah.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 05/01/2008

Bottom line is, Frey wrote a book and hawked it as non-fiction when in fact it was all fiction. As for Oprah, she's disgusting and just tried to salvage her book club and her reputation but in the end only made it worse with this interview. Anyone could have sat there and called Frey a liar. Why he did what he did though and a discussion of 'truth' in fiction would have been more apt. Oprah makes you sick..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 05/01/2008

Oprah...Dr. Phil...Judge Judy...Spongebob Squarepants.

Give my Spongebob any day of the week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 05/01/2008

Leave Oprah alone.

It is hard to start a new religion with Eckart Tolle and to juggle all her other duties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 05/01/2008

Eckart Tolle's new book is the most boring thing at the bookstore. WHY is Oprah promoting it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 05/02/2008

I have to give Frey credit for sheer gall. He's like the drunk driver who sideswipes you, causes you to total your car, and then demands you pay to repair his car's scratched paint.

As for Nan Talese, well ... a competent manager would usually take this kind of disaster out of the hide of someone like Frey -- demand that he return all royalties and his advance. But this is the publishing industry we're talking about -- I wouldn't trust most of their executives behind the counter of a Kwik-E-Mart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 05/01/2008

Oprah did it to regain her credibility after the scandal happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 AM on 05/01/2008

In my mind she never had any to begin with. And people eat her up. It's no wonder we are in the mess we're in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 05/01/2008

Oprah is not the reason why we are in this "mess". James Frey wanted to become a well-know author so he got Nan Talese, one of the best editors in the book selling business , to help "move" his book and make him a star. They sent the book to Oprah knowing full well that once she put her stamp of approval on that book it would be a success. Now he has to eat it!!!!! If he has just said it was fiction maybe we would not have the bad taste in our mouths when we see his work promoted in a book store. I just walk right by it!!! Won't even touch it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 05/03/2008

I'm sorry...are you saying "the mess we're in" is OPRAH'S fault? You cannot be serious with that comment. The truth is Oprah helped make millions for him and his publisher the minute she the title of his book left her lips. She is not running for office (she has repeatedly declined to do so). She is not a religious leader. SHE IS AN ENTERTAINER and a damn good one so lay off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 05/01/2008

Right on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 05/03/2008

"are you saying "the mess we're in" is OPRAH'S fault"

um, no. I don't believe I said that. However, the fact the public is so dumbed down and unsophisticated as to eat her up...and Dr. Phil...et al, IS the reason that we are in the mess we are in.

I guess you just prove my point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 05/01/2008

Did you write entertainer? How can you call her an entertainer. She might have an entertainer on her show and talk to them,that's it,just talk. And people worshiping her for doing just that ,is what he means by the mess we're in. How can someone who sits and talks to "Entertainers",be worth over a billion dollars? Now that is a mess in my book. I bet you believe everything written in the Enquirer too,right? I think he's talking about the gullibility of people. There's more suckers born today than ever. I think it's down to one every 30 seconds now,maybe less. Speaking of suckers,you seem ripe. Want to buy some swampland in Arizona?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 05/01/2008

There's nothing discernably different between the BS spewed in the pages of A Million Little Pieces and the BS spewed in the pages of The Secret. Both were written by charlatans looking to get a buck. But, at least, Frey wasn't trying to indoctrinate the masses into living his lie. I pretty much am suspect of anyone who reads a book purely because Oprah WInfrey told them to. Whatever works of literature that inspires an ego-maniacal primadonna who sucks up to soccer moms and their self-created problems just for a buck holds no interest to me. If you're looking for inspirational works of literature, you would be wise to stay well away from the any works that Oprah or Dr. Phil advocate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 05/01/2008

Politiking : I don't and would never understand the fascination with Oprah.
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Oprah is and always has been a publicity whore. She thrives on controversy
and manufactures a great deal of that publicity. Always one to turn on a dime,
when it suits her agenda. She hasn't become such a great media sensation
by exploiting the truth. She exploits people to further her own career, without
looking back. James Frey is just another of Oprah's tools at her disposal.
Watch out Dr. Phil, Rachel Ray, Gail and Dr. Love. She will no doubt chew
you up and spit you out, as it serves her purpose. This is "show business"
and Oprah is a genius when it comes to both.
Wait until the day, that Obama rubs her the wrong way. Sometime during
her 4th season, she went from being America's most darling hostess - to
an on & off again participant in a love/hate relationship with her viewers.
Don't pity the fool who was "tricked" into appearing on her show. There is
no such thing as bad publicity. Would anyone truly be surprised, to learn
James Frey was a willing participant in the recent public showdown ?
Money actually does talk and there's no stopping Ms. Winfrey. No matter
what people happen to believe, the woman is no fool !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 05/01/2008

Your level of negativity says more about you than about Oprah Winfrey. She has done a lot of good things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 05/01/2008

Everyday, television proves it makes you stupid. Every second of every day...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 05/01/2008

Except for Animal Planet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 05/01/2008