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Sam Stein

The Huffington Post

Clinton Camp Defends Gas Plan: She Doesn't Need To Listen To Experts

May 1, 2008 01:22 PM


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Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


Aides to Sen. Hillary Clinton defended on Thursday her support for a gas-tax holiday - a proposal that has been roundly criticized by economic and energy experts and derided among pundits as political pandering.

"Senator Clinton realizes there is a problem for consumers that requires both a short term and long term set of solutions," said Howard Wolfson, her chief spokesperson. "In the short term, she has laid out a plan to suspend the tax and have those resources or revenues paid by oil companies as well. In the long term, she has the boldest and most comprehensive plan that will increase fuel efficiency standards... help lawmakers retool their production facilities."

Wolfson said that Clinton would introduce legislation to alleviate the gas tax burden on consumers over the summer by having a windfall tax on oil company profits pick up the tab. He was non-committal as to whether or not the senator would leave the campaign trail and return to Washington to push the legislation.

Aides to Clinton could not, when asked, point to a single non-political expert who supported such a proposal, saying simply that it is a president's prerogative when to take expert advise.

"We believe the presidency requires leadership," said Wolfson. "There are times that a president will take a position that a broad support of quote-unquote experts agree with. And there are times they will take a position that quote-unquote experts do not agree with."

Pressed whether her decision to buck conventional wisdom -- energy analysts say the savings from the tax holiday would be minor and actually lead to an increase in demand for gas and driving -- contrasted with the notion that she has the greatest expertise on the economy, aides said no.

"The long and the short of it is that people are hurting today, and when you say that it doesn't save much money, our calculation is that for the average driver it would save 70 dollars," said chief strategist Geoff Garin. Internal polling, he added, said that the position was resonating with Indianans.

"We're seeing in our polling that working people appreciate the fact that Senator Clinton understands the incredible economic strain they are facing," Garin said.

Not mentioned on the conference call, but making its way around the Internet on Thursday, was a story from Clinton's 2000 Senate campaign in New York, when she came out in opposition to a gas tax holiday.

It is "a bad deal for New York and a potential bonanza for the oil companies," Clinton said of her Republican opponent Rick Lazio's plan to repeal 4.3 cents of the gas tax.

The campaign, on its website, said there was no contradiction between the two stances, pointing out that in 2000, the money would have been stripped from a highway trust fund, while in 2008, the senator would generate funds taxes on oil companies.

On Wednesday, The Huffington Post attempted to find one expert from any and all ideological persuasion who believed that a gas tax holiday is a wise idea. It proved impossible. However, the idea is likely popular in upcoming primary states like Indiana and Ohio, and other politicians, alongside Clinton, have argued that it is in the government's interest to give all consumers a bit of at-the-pump relief.

 

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You wont hear about this after the Tuesday. It's just to get her thru then. It was NAFTA for Ohio, Guns for Pa, and this for NC and Ind. For Oregon and Montana, she will talk about the Environment and land rights. Of course, she doesn't mean a word of it.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 05/02/2008

Hmmmmmmm....doesn't have to listen to experts. Sounds familiar. I wonder if she will listen to experts before she "obliterates" Iran. She has the same rigid, stubborn, arrogant personality that George W. Bush has. Do we really want eight more years of THAT kind of attitude???

The gas tax "holiday" really IS stupid, considering we have bridges collapsing from under us and roads in need of major work all over the USA. I can already hear people screaming in September, after they've watched gas prices regularly increase over the summer, when the 18 cents a gallon returns, on TOP of these inevitable summer increases. To raise the prices by one or two pennies a gallon weekly is bad enough, but adding the lump sum of 18 cents when summer is over will really hurt. I guess Hillary and Bill haven't caused Americans to lose enough jobs through NAFTA; now Hillary wants more American road workers to be unemployed over the summer.

How bizarre.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 05/02/2008

Sure she will listen to the "experts" on Iran, the same ones she has been listening to all along; AIPAC.

They pay her tremendous amounts of money and give her a great deal of political support, and it's no wonder; two of their top officials are currently on trial for espionage against the United States for illegally receiving classified intel on Iran with the intent of using it to foment war between Iran and the US.

She would do ANYTHING to become president. Send your kids to Iraq? Without batting an eye. to Iran? in a heartbeat.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 05/02/2008

besides, I for one would not be able to sleep at nights knowing that the measly $30.00 I save would be costing 300,000 jobs. Sorry Hillary, I don't want that culpability on my head. I have too much compassion and understanding of what it is to lose one's job as with that comes, possibly losing your house, no food, car gets reposed and on and on......

sorry not worth it in my book or tank as the case may be....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 05/02/2008

And there are times she will take a position that quote-unquote experts do not agree with."
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It is attitudes like this that gets us into a mess of trouble.... that's why these people are called EXPERTS.. that their areas of expertise Hillary and as a good leader you OUGHT to listen to these people as the errors made by politicians create a whole slew of hardships for the ordinary folks...

So wise up and stop acting the fool.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 05/02/2008

It's just like the war in Iraq. In that case, most of the world, and MANY experts were suggesting that the entire thing was a fiasco waiting to happen.

But just like the gas tax, when senator Clinton sees an opportunity to pander in a way that gains her political capitol but is ultimately damaging, It doesn't matter WHO is trying to dissuade her, she is going to ACT.

Furthermore, since Hillary helped start the war, (and the one in Lebanon, and is also looking forward to totally obliterating Iran) not supporting her gas tax holiday is tantamount to not supporting the troops, and NO ONE wants to be accused of that, right?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 05/02/2008

The money for the gas tax comes from the fund that goes to repair the infrastructure (bridges, roads, etc) So if they cut that out people that are employed by companies that do that work will have to lay off workers. Not to mention the crumbling infastructure that we already have in this country, won't be repaired....DUH It's just another "robbing Peter to pay Paul" scheme.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 05/02/2008

The Clintons sound more and more like George Bush & Dick Cheney everyday.

Why aren't they in the Republican Party -- where they belong?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 05/02/2008

Yes, ignorring the experts is a Bush trademark, makes Clinton sound like McSame.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 05/02/2008

Senator Clinton didn't go far enough. Let's not only eliminate the tax this summer. Let's take it off permanently. And, as long as we're at it, why don't we make the oil companies give us 1000 gallons of gas for free. No. Strike that. Let's make it 2000 gallons. Hey, I'm beginning to like her ideas.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 AM on 05/02/2008

Don't you think the oil companies would just raise prices?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 05/02/2008

Once again Hillary proves that she understands the people, while Obama only understands reality.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 05/02/2008

She understands people alright. She understands how gullible they are, why else would she and her husband lie consistently to the American people? Remember "I did not have sex with that woman", and sniper gate? I have to watch my consumption of gas. I too have no money. Do you really think that without a gas tax that the price of gas will remain stable? Also, who will vote on this tax issue in the house and congress to make this permanent before the summer? Talk about gullible people.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 AM on 05/02/2008

This is just the latest example of how Hillary always seems to line up with the Republican. Whether its the gas tax or the war or the patriot act, when can always count of Hillary to do the easy political thing. When Obama says that we need a change in the mindset that permeats Washington, this is what he means! Oh! That quote "it is a president's prerogative when to take expert advise," that sound the kind of thing George Bush would say!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 05/02/2008

"And there are times they will take a position that quote-unquote experts do not agree with."

She's sounding more like W as each day passes.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 05/02/2008

Yeah she didn't need experts when voting to send us to war either. Its called pandering and its illegal in most states....

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 05/02/2008

You are right. She didn't read the whole report to find out the details. Just vote because a republican said it was so. Here she has the opportunity to do the research herself, talk to economists, what her own says. She proves to want to look like she can't do enough for the American people although she would in the long run hurt them. She is responsible for over 4,000 Americans dead in Iraq. How many casualties will there be for her callus behavior now.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 AM on 05/02/2008

And how will she get enough Repugnicants to vote for any kind of tax, especially a tax on a group of companies that have Repugnicants in their pockets?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 05/02/2008

Experts?
Hillary don't need no stinking experts!!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 05/02/2008

I'll bet you can find "experts" to support it....in the McCain campaign.

The only question now is....will Hillary be McCain's VP or will McCain be Hillary's VP?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 05/02/2008

May 1st, 2008 9:21 pm ET

TO ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS:
Since the media is refusing to reveal/report the Paul vs Clinton fraud case in court right now, we need to create our own movement and flood every blog on CNN and every blogging website on the World Wide Web with information from the case regardless of what the topic is. For those that don't know - Google Paul vs Clinton and hold on to your shirt with what you read!!
For those of you who think this case has been thrown out or is irrelevant:

"In the landmark civil fraud case against Bill Clinton in Los Angeles, where the former President is charged with defrauding a Hollywood dot com millionaire to help Hillary Clinton obtain more than $1.2 million from him for her 2000 Senate campaign, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz ruled on Friday, April 25, 2008 that Hillary Clinton would not be required to testify in a sworn deposition as a material witness in the case until AFTER the November election!." (paulvclinton.com)

Here is the kicker - the judge is a Bill Clinton appointee!

OBAMANACS UNITE!!! LET'S DO THIS!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 05/01/2008

The Paul v. Clinton case is an item from the right-wing echo chamber and is not an issue Obama supporters should be using as campaign material. A wiki link with some details:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul#Connections_to_Hillary_Clinton.27s_Senatorial_and_Presidential_Campaigns

Peter Paul's charges have previously been thrown out, apparently for good reasons. His mere reassertion of the charges does not make them any more substantial.

Obama can win the nomination without resorting to character assassination and scandal-mongering. It is not helpful for Democrats to sling mud at one another or to join forces with our opponents to defeat a member of our own party. Let's stick with the issues that really matter and select the candidate with the best plans for America's future.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 05/02/2008

It will never pass.

Hillary and McCain look like fools once again.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 05/01/2008

So does this mean if she were president she and Bill would not seek or listen to the advice of their team. Wrong......exactly what we don't need. Wow this sounds so familar......I know someone else like that!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 05/01/2008

She doesn't need to read National Intelligence Estimates before going to WAR either...How's that working for you, Hill???

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 05/01/2008

Hillary = comedian

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 05/01/2008

"Rich people"God bless us."

Now that's entertainment!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 05/01/2008

But don't forget....It's Obama that's the elitist.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 05/02/2008

A brief recap re: employing sound fiscal judgment for the following issues:

1. Iraq War; 2. Ear marks*; and 3. Gas-tax holiday

OBAMA 3 Hillzilla 0


*In case you missed it yesterday, Hillzilla has requested nearly $2.3 billion

in federal earmarks for 2009, almost three times the largest amount received by a

single senator this year.


As trial attorneys like to say, pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 05/01/2008

EXPERTS? WHO NEEDS 'EM!! SOUNDS LIKE A CERTAIN REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT I KNOW...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 05/01/2008

I had exactly the same thought. Shrub redux.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 05/01/2008

Hillary's campaign is a TOTAL mess. Hillary, McCain, and Bush don't have clue about surviving with the levels of the current gas prices. Now NEITHER don't need advice from experts? Economic deficency started two decades ago----and NOW Americans are asked to continue the trend. Amazing! Just amazing! These people live comfortably while the majority of Americans struggle day after day. And they don't want advice? Summation-----THEY believe the economy is just fine.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 05/01/2008

All this talk about elitism, and how people don't like that...

I'm sorry, but I want my President to be better than me. I want my leader to have the fortitude, stamina and guts to make the really tough decisions, that I'm pretty sure I'm not equipped to do.

So that means we need someone who at least considers themselves elite. As long as they remember to keep an open mind, and to listen once in a while.

I'll have a beer with my President after that person leaves office.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 05/01/2008

That's our Hilly just making it up as she goes along. We know who she is courting now. that "working class white" as if they didn't have a brain in their heads. How dare her think the American people are so stupid. Not this time.

Remember when he looked right in the camera, shook his finger and said" I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Not this time.

Let's be smart. Let's make sure our leaders are smart. We don't want to have a beer with our President. We want him to work for us. Let's have our beers together and hold our leaders feet to the fire. No more lies

Not this time.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/01/2008

All in all, how important is lying about a blowjob? You know, versus 50% greater national debt, 4,000+ dead, 30,000 maimed, $3-7 trillion war costs, $4.00 gas.

Sayyyyyyyy, have you ever given a blowjob? For free?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 05/02/2008

It doesn't matter that Bill Clinton lied about a personal affair. It matters that he lied about it under oath...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 05/02/2008

You are right. Unfortunately with her vote for GW to go to war Hillary Clinton is at least partly responsible for this mess.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 AM on 05/02/2008

"Let's be smart"???

You are talking to an electorate who elected George Bush TWICE! Well...yes...I know what transpired in 2000. Point is, he should not have even been close. Then, they allowed almost the entire political and media establishment to offer themselves up as sacrificial lambs in Iraq for the Bush administration's greed. When they had the chance to vote for Dean in 2004...they allowed the GOP and media to persuade them that a presidential candidate cannot get excited and "whoop." So what did the electorate do? That's right...vote for Bush.

And now we are being sol