20,000 Jobs Lost In April

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New York Times   |  PETER S. GOODMAN and MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM   |   May 3, 2008 12:00 PM


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The American economy lost 20,000 jobs in April, the fourth consecutive month of decline, in what many economists took as powerful evidence that the United States is almost certainly now ensnared in a recession.

But the number of jobs reported lost by the Labor Department on Friday was significantly smaller than most analysts had predicted, and the unemployment rate nudged down to 5 percent, raising hopes that the economy may not suffer as severely as once feared.

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- PatCroft See Profile I'm a Fan of PatCroft permalink

Clearly these people are cooking the books. After a year or so of unemployed status the statistic drops off the record and is no longer considered unemployed.

For more than several years there are more employable persons that there are jobs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 05/05/2008
- Mike169 See Profile I'm a Fan of Mike169 permalink

Actually after 26 weeks you drop off the books and off the unemployment statistics. The figure you want is the discouraged worker. Ther person who, because there are no jobs, discontinue looking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/05/2008
- lyingtruth See Profile I'm a Fan of lyingtruth permalink

George Bush did the math all by himself...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 05/05/2008
- michelv See Profile I'm a Fan of michelv permalink

1. 20,000 lost jobs a month should be compared against 150,000 needed just to maintain employment rates. So that's 170,000 down from the base level needed to maintain current employment levels.

2. The way unemployment rate is computed in the U.S. is a sad useless joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 05/04/2008
- WIpatriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WIpatriot permalink

Au contraire, the unemployment numbers serve the Bush administration's purpose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 05/06/2008
- trollsbwild See Profile I'm a Fan of trollsbwild permalink

The unemployment stats do not begin to address one of the fundamental issues, namely reductions in gross pay for the next job, along with loss of benefits. This administration has succeeded in being able to reduce the standard of living of the average worker. Meanwhile, the rich continue to live better than their previous generation.
I said it before, and I'll say it again. George Bush and his ilk are the reverse Robin Hoods- steal from the poor and give to the rich!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 AM on 05/04/2008
- Erdgeist See Profile I'm a Fan of Erdgeist permalink

Since President Bush took office in 2001 over 2.7 million manufacturing jobs have been lost in the U.S. In fact, the problem is so severe that such a loss, of not only manufacturing jobs but of actual industries, now poses a national security threat. If the keystone of free-trade is comparative advantage how does moving America's advantage to China accomplish anything except our nation's ruin?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 05/03/2008
- fourex See Profile I'm a Fan of fourex permalink

GW Bush has lost more jobs than any President since Hoover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 05/03/2008
- WIpatriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WIpatriot permalink

They're lost? Can't find 'em? Look under the desk. Nope, not there. Behind the filing cabinet? Nope. Just no idea where they went. Heh-heh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 05/06/2008
- SaraPulis See Profile I'm a Fan of SaraPulis permalink

One wonders whether the Bush administration policies which contributed to this mess were put in place in order to cause it so as to make the jobless populace seek employment with the military.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 05/03/2008
- asl3676 See Profile I'm a Fan of asl3676 permalink

If you believe the government's unemployment numbers then you believe there are still undiscovered WMD's in Iraq.......

These numbers are as nonsensical as the government's inflation figures.

Amazing how no one in the mainstream media questions these statistics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 05/03/2008
- WIpatriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WIpatriot permalink

Do you mean the "liberal" media owned by the right wing? The MSM has ceased being relevant many years ago....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 05/06/2008
- TheFriendlyAtheist See Profile I'm a Fan of TheFriendlyAtheist permalink

Nonsensical is right., 300,000 lost in the last three months and then throw in the 150,000 per month that need to be created just to keep up with the expanding worker base and you have a net loss of 750,000 jobs over the last three month. Yet the unemployment numbers go down. Neat trick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 05/03/2008
- CaptainHowdy See Profile I'm a Fan of CaptainHowdy permalink

Not just the unemployment numbers but the inflation numbers, which EXCLUDE food, energy and health care.

Surely food and gas have increased more than 5% in the last year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 05/03/2008
- dadw5boys See Profile I'm a Fan of dadw5boys permalink

most food has doubled or tripled in price.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 05/03/2008
- dadw5boys See Profile I'm a Fan of dadw5boys permalink

Try being a disabled veteran living on a fixed income the rest of your life. You can even excerise when your abilty to stand long is limited so you gain weight and lose muscle strenght. If your luck and don't have mental problems you might stay married and get to see your kids a lot. If not lucky well life pretty much sucks.
You can't build a 401k on a fixed income nor do you get those matching funds to accelerate the growth of that fund.
So before you start whinnig about being out of work SMILE AND BE HAPPY YOUR NOT ONE OF US stuck in a cycle of pain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 05/03/2008
- chinacatsunflower See Profile I'm a Fan of chinacatsunflower permalink

no offense, but jobless is jobless which means no income or health coverage whatsoever, and plenty of unemployed people suffer from pain just as you apparently do. be glad you have at least some income coming in as many out there don't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 05/03/2008
- WIpatriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WIpatriot permalink

Oh, be glad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 05/05/2008
- WIpatriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WIpatriot permalink

No. no. no...we're GROWING, sayeth the Ministry of Lying Statistics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 05/03/2008
- ShawnMichel See Profile I'm a Fan of ShawnMichel permalink

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Looks like we'll have to wait to buy that McMansion, honey. Sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/03/2008
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