Obama wins NC, says near nomination; Clinton wins Indiana

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AP   |  DAVID ESPO and LIZ SIDOTI   |   May 6, 2008 at 10:02 PM



Barack Obama swept to a convincing victory in the North Carolina primary Tuesday night and declared he was closing in on the Democratic presidential nomination. Hillary Rodham Clinton eked out a win in Indiana as she struggled to halt her rival's march into history.

"Tonight we stand less than 200 delegates away from securing the Democratic nomination for president of the United States," Obama told a raucous rally in Raleigh, N.C. -- and left no doubt he intended to claim the prize.

Clinton stepped before her own supporters not long afterward in Indianapolis. "Thanks to you, it's full speed on to the White House," she said, signaling her determination to fight on in a campaign already waged across more than 16 months and nearly all 50 states.

Returns from 99 percent of North Carolina precincts showed Obama winning 56 percent of the vote to 42 percent for Clinton, a triumph that mirrored his earlier wins in Southern states with large black populations.

That made Indiana a virtual must-win Midwestern contest for the former first lady, who had hoped to counter Obama's persistent delegate advantage with a strong run through the late primaries.

Returns from 99 percent of the precincts showed her with 51 percent to 49 percent for her rival, a margin of little more than 22,000 votes out of more than 1.2 million cast. The outcome wasn't clear for more than six hours after the polls closed, the uncertainty stemming from slow counting in Lake County near Obama's home city of Chicago.

Obama won at least 69 delegates and Clinton at least 63 in the two states combined, with 55 still to be awarded.

Voters in both states fell along racial lines long since established in a marathon race between the nation's strongest-ever black presidential candidate and its most formidable female challenger for the White House.

The economy was the top issue by far in both states, according to interviews with voters as they left their polling places.

Two weeks after a decisive defeat in Pennsylvania, Obama sounded increasingly like he was looking forward to the fall campaign.

"This primary season may not be over, but when it is, we will have to remember who we are as Democrats ... because we all agree that at this defining moment in history -- a moment when we're facing two wars, an economy in turmoil, a planet in peril -- we can't afford to give John McCain the chance to serve out George Bush's third term."

Clinton was joined at her rally by her husband Bill, his face sunburned after hours spent campaigning in small-town North Carolina, and their daughter, Chelsea.

She stressed the issue that came to dominate the final days of the primaries in both states, her call for a summertime suspension of the federal gasoline tax. "I think it's time to give Americans a break this summer," she said.

She added that no matter who wins the epic race for the nomination, "I will work for the nominee of this party" in the fall campaign against the Republicans. To emphasize her determination, Clinton announced plans to campaign Thursday in West Virginia, South Dakota and Oregon, three of the remaining primary states.

Obama was gaining more than 90 percent of the black vote in Indiana, while Clinton was winning an estimated 61 percent of the white vote there.

In North Carolina, Clinton won 60 percent of the white vote, while Obama claimed support from roughly 90 percent of the blacks who cast ballots.

Obama's delegate haul edged him closer to his prize -- 1815.5 to 1,672 for Clinton in The Associated Press count, out of 2,025 needed to win the nomination.

As he told his supporters, Obama was on pace to finish the night within 200 delegates of the total needed. There are 217 delegates at stake in the six primaries yet to come. Another 270 superdelegates remain uncommitted.

He has long led Clinton among delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, and has increasingly narrowed his deficit among superdelegates who will attend the convention by virtue of their status as party leaders. The AP tally showed Clinton with 269.5 superdelegates, and Obama with 255.

The impact of a long-running controversy over Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, was difficult to measure.

In North Carolina, six in 10 voters who said Wright's incendiary comments affected their votes sided with Clinton. A somewhat larger percentage of voters who said the pastor's remarks did not matter supported Obama.

The questionnaire used to learn about voter motivation did not include any questions about the gasoline tax.

In Indiana, about one in five voters said they were independents, an additional one in 10 said Republican.

Only Democrats and unaffiliated voters were permitted to vote in North Carolina.

Voting in Indiana was carried out under a state law, recently upheld by the Supreme Court, that requires voters to produce a valid photo ID. About a dozen nuns in their 80s and 90s at St. Mary's Convent in South Bend were denied ballots because they lacked the necessary identification.

Obama leads Clinton in delegates won in primaries and caucuses. Despite his defeat two weeks ago, he has steadily whittled away at her advantage in superdelegates in the past two weeks and trails 269.5 to 255.

Clinton saved her candidacy with her win in Pennsylvania, and she campaigned aggressively in Indiana in hopes of denying Obama a victory next door to his home state of Illinois. Indiana is home to large numbers of blue-collar workers who have been attracted to the former first lady, and she sought to use her call for a federal gas tax holiday to draw them and other economically pinched voters closer.

Inevitably, the issue quickly took on larger dimensions.

Obama said it symbolized a candidacy consisting of "phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems."

Clinton retorted, "Instead of attacking the problem, he's attacking my solutions," and ran an ad in the campaign's final hours that said she "gets it."

The balance of the primary schedule includes West Virginia, with 28 delegates on May 13; Oregon with 52 and Kentucky with 51 a week later; Puerto Rico with 55 delegates on June 1, and Montana with 16 and South Dakota with 15 on June 3.

Sen. McCain of Arizona, the Republican nomination already in hand, campaigned in North Carolina and assailed Obama for his vote against confirmation of Chief Justice John Roberts.

"Senator Obama in particular likes to talk up his background as a lecturer on law, and also as someone who can work across the aisle to get things done," McCain said. "But ... he went right along with the partisan crowd, and was among the 22 senators to vote against this highly qualified nominee."

Clinton also voted against Roberts, but McCain, as is often the case, focused his remarks on Obama.

Obama's campaign responded that the Republican would pick judges who represent a threat to abortion rights and to McCain's own legislation to limit the role of money in political campaigns.

 
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For anyone who didn't believe before in Obama's abilities to bring people together, I would like you to pay careful attention to his victory speech. He was inclusive and all embracing of all Democrats. He wants to heal the party, not just for the GE but for the sake of the Democratic Party as it moves into the future.

For all those who are wondering why Gore and Edwards won't support or endorse at this point, it is clear that they both respect the democratic process and want to see it move forward and follow it's natural course and reach a conclusion through voting.

I am energized and thrilled that Senator Obama honestly won NC and came so close to winning IN.

This means more to me as a Democrat and an American than if the DNC had handed the NOM to BO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 05/07/2008

I think that states with large numbers of Blacks is where they are best known to Whites. and when one interacts with people of different races they become familiar and not threatening. We then know people as neighbors and friends and are not swayed by the MSM and its racist slant. I am a New Yorker by birth who spent much time in the south and in my limited experience the north is much more racist than the south. Southerners Black and White are familiar with the ranting of histrionic preachers both Black and White and don't carry on about them as we do in the north. and I believe this is why Obama does better in states with large black populations not because Blacks vote only for Blacks. When Democrats have a choice between a candidate who happens to be black and one who chooses to be Republican, Obama will get the blue collar vote. Ideology will trump race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 05/07/2008

As a longtime resident abroad (Scotland), when I returned to visit my mother in Florida, I usually found my encounters with Black folk to be more agreeable than those with my White bretheren. I have no clear idea why this might be so, and it may be mis-perceived on my part.

Possibly such encounters were conditioned by the general client/server situstion, though that also obtained mostly for whites too.

I recall chatting/jiving with a vegetable stallholder and, when I returned to the car, one of the old ladies commented, "Ed, you just get on with EVERYBODY!"

Possibly it had something to do with a mixed Scottish/Southern accent - familiar, but not "just another redneck"? Who knows, but I reckon my White bretheren have more issues to deal with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 05/07/2008

Two women on MSNBC... Rachael M and Mika B are both attempting to tell the guys that Hill ain't gonna "gracefully concede"... but none of the boys are listening.

I don't believe she "can" concede for multiple reasons. She doesn't have the personal character to be dignified... her Neo-Con nature won't let her quit... and she needs the "Office of President" to shield her from a potentially damning California law suit.... now, toss in the fact that the 'Black-ops World Bankers' plans need her for their agenda... she ain't about anything except knee-capping Obama from here-on-out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 05/07/2008

p.s....
I would be happy to be wrong...
but she's given little reason for me to believe anything else.

... Confucius would advise... "if you would divine the future, study the past."
......... so, with the past in mind, I'm skeptical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 05/07/2008

There is an argument that Hillary shouldn't concede, because, then when she wins big in WV and KY (her name will remain on the ballot), it'll reflect badly on the presumptive nominee. It's also probably worth letting the rest of the primary voters have their say, but perhaps she might be able to tone down the 'attack dog' mentality?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 05/07/2008

that is the only win/win situation... if she quits with the attack-dog crap.

I would love for every single primary invocated... it would increase registration immensely... but only, "ONLY", if she can quit the instinctive scorpion "Scorpio" mandate... to wantonly sting everyone around... just for the joy of poisonous ejaculation.

Can she effectively reign-in her primal nature?

We'll see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 05/07/2008
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But guess what? Here come the Super Delegates!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it possible for Barack to tell some of Hillary's Super Delegates to just "Get Lost" ? I am sorry I don't want to be mean, but they latched on to Hillary from "day one",, they did not give Barack a chance. Also I think this crossover from Reps. is very unfair. Hillary would never have won Indiana without this nonsensical crossover., I think this was absolutely disgusting.

But I am sure that the Dem. Super Delegates will surely zero in on this distortion in the voting process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 05/07/2008

No -- and one of the reasons we need him is his effect on down-ticket elections in red states Obama may not be able to win -- but he can turn districts blue by turning out the vote.

telling those same operatives and elected folk to go pound sand would be a) pointless -- they'll fall in line, and b) destructive as all get out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 05/07/2008
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Sorry guys,

I am so tired I can hardly keep my eyes open. However, I wanted to congratulate you. Sen, Obama was just awesome! I listened to Cnn all afternoon and I just wanted to scream, and when it came to the final few minutes, I was convinced that we would have a controversy just like we did in Guam. Who knows, the controversy may still be real, just like the huge controversy in Guam!!!!!

Google.............Guam Pacific News Network......google,,,,,,Guam Caucus Drama Continues/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 AM on 05/07/2008

If she stays in now, the media will start treating her like Huckabee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 05/07/2008

Bingo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 AM on 05/07/2008

She's still in the race. Until she says she's done, she's still in the race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 05/07/2008

You are right. Except Obama just started his victory lap while she's still struggling to make it to the finish line.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 05/07/2008

I agree with both of you that she should be done, but that has kind of been the case for some time now. In recent days the Clinton campaign has talked about the Nuclear Option and an October Surprise. We don't really know what either of these terms refer to, but they can continue to use them to sow doubt about Obama. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but the divisiveness of the Clinton campaign has left a bitter taste in my mouth. I still don't put anything past her. I am so sorry that I have gotten so negative (because it feels bad), but until she says she's done, she's still in the race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 05/07/2008

At the moment and only in the most technical sense.

And it's certainly not entirely up to her. When presumptive nominee Barack Obama reaches 2025 delegates, it's over.

And look out. We're going to see quite a few superdelegates throw their support behind presumptive nominee Barack Obama (I love typing that) in these next few days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 05/07/2008

Obama had a great night today. He is only 200 delegates from winning the nomination. It is time for her to go. He is also catching up to her in supers. She can now no longer close the gap with pledged delegates. Whatever gains she made in the popular vote with her PA victory he has overtaken those gains. He will be the next dem nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 05/07/2008
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She won IN by 1.78% or 22,412 votes. How can she argue staying in when it is clear Republicans are aiding her "wins" and damaging the nominee?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 05/07/2008

This speaks to the fiction of the new kind of politics Obama touts. Close race in Indiana and election fraud in the NW of the state - Lake County, and Gary in particular has long been synonymous with ballot box stuffing.

Probably wont be enough though, Clinton likely to prevail by 52%. So I guess the Obama Moonies here who are baying, will have to wait awhile longer.

I still remain hopeful we can save the party and the country from this con artist, and from the lowlifes who run with him.

We'll see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 05/07/2008

Wow...to have a Hillary supporter call Obama a con artist...WOW! Talk about irony. I think your ignorant and uneducated ideas speak for themselves. As much as I would like your vote for Obama in 08. You can keep it. Hope you had a swell night...I know I did. I will sleep soundly tonight.

Obama '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 05/07/2008

You are irrelevant. Keep you vote. Or better yet vote for McInsane with the rest of the idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 05/07/2008
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Save your money instead for Clinton's legal fees in her $17 million fraud trial where the gentleman has her on videotape doing what she said she didn't do. She doesn't have to testify until November, but Bill will be missing a few days on the campaign trail as he can be called for testimony now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 05/07/2008

Oh look how cute. A troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 AM on 05/07/2008

Yes, an unbalanced concern troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 05/07/2008

LOL Little Lord Faulteroy the Troll Prince.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 05/07/2008

Good night all!



OBAMA 08
President Barack Obama 09

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 05/07/2008

And the battle continues as Clinton is the apparent winner of Indiana. . . . . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 05/07/2008
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And how many delegates does she gain?

He is about 100 delegates closer to closing this, and he netted 15 more delegates tonight than did she.

She is lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 05/07/2008
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Enough already. Let it go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 05/07/2008

It doesn't make a difference. It really doesn't. Tonight, the narrative of this "race" has irreversibly changed. It's going to be very, very difficult for the media to continue selling the fantasy that this is a competitive race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 05/07/2008

Its a sad moment when u let Hillary go. It was a nice, fun, engaging, primary. We thank Hillary for all the good time and low time and funny time we have spend together. But now is the Time for Hillary just to drop our gracefully before she tarnished her image by being a pain in the you know what.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 05/07/2008

On CNN they are trying to say that in Indiana Mayor Rudy Clay's county is cheating in counting the votes. This is sad. They are pissed off at this Mayor. They are trying to keep Clinton's small lead. I can not believe what they are saying!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 05/07/2008

the mayor answered them correctly....

they have all of the early voting 11k with the SAME AMOUNT OF STAFF from previous years...

it was answered move on...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 05/07/2008

A-holes. WHen did CNN go to the dark-side? Daily Kos has a report that the GOP head dude of Lake COunty says there has been "no hanky panky".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 05/07/2008

Wolf was just pissed Lake County was keeping him from his beauty rest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 05/07/2008

That's a weird way for them to cheat, when Hillary won by 22,000 votes there.

What, did they cheat to make Hillary win?

I'm all up for a recount!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 05/07/2008
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Game over.

Tonight brought forth the endgame that Democrats had been expecting since the "actual" Super Tuesday, several weeks back. To be sure, Hillary proved a formidable opponent. Bill Clinton now has to bring his people together in time for the convention. We need Democratic unity more than anything at this moment.

McCain and the GOP will be bringing out the big guns soon. We still have half a year to fight this thing through to the end.

Let's get to work, America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 05/07/2008

Absolutely not. I hope Bill and Hillary go on a long vacation, they deserve it.
Then attend the convention and start stumping from then until the election.
That's about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 05/07/2008

I wish I could agree. I really do. But Hillary Clinton would just bring too much negative baggage with her... It's time for a fresh start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 05/07/2008

Oops. This was meant for the post below.

But while I'm here... I'm with you 100%, Tages72. : )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 05/07/2008


Bill Clinton now has to bring his people together in time for the convention??????

Yeah, right --- after you people called him a racist?? [Not to mention all the trashing of his presidency and all the Hillary-hate you've all spewed and continue to spew?? And all the dirty politics --- e.g., Gary, Missouri, caucuses, etc., not to mention FL & MI?] Dream on. He might forgive you but we won't, we will never forget that, not in a million years, let alone by Nov.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 05/07/2008

I believe that Bill Clinton has no people left; the Clintons may have embarrassed the party for the last time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 05/07/2008

Oh Christ. It's Dan Abrams.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 05/07/2008

Oh yum, it's Dan Abrams!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 05/07/2008
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