Obama gains superdelegates after trading wins with Clinton

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CALVIN WOODWARD | May 7, 2008 02:04 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., reacts at her Indiana Primary night party in Indianapolis, Tuesday, May 6, 2008. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama pocketed the support of at least four Democratic convention superdelegates on Wednesday, building on the momentum from a convincing North Carolina primary victory. Rival Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed to remain in the race "until there's a nominee."

The former first lady declined to say whether that meant through the roll call of the states at the Democratic National Convention this summer.

Clinton also disclosed that she had loaned her campaign an additional $6.4 million in recent weeks, evidence that her once front-runner campaign was in deep trouble.

She told reporters the loans were a sign of her commitment to her quest for the White House. She earlier loaned herself $5 million as she struggled to keep up with a better-financed Obama campaign.

Obama, now the front-runner, was home in Chicago during the day as his aides spread word that he would soon begin campaigning in states likely to be pivotal in the fall campaign. They also relayed word of the four endorsements, expected to be made public later in the day. Both disclosures were meant to signal fresh confidence that the nomination was quickly coming into his possession after a grueling marathon across 15 months and nearly all 50 states.

Clinton's appearance in Shepherdstown, W.Va., was meant to underscore her determination to stay the course. She also arranged a private meeting later in the day with uncommitted superdelegates.

Jeanette Council, an undecided superdelegate from North Carolina, said she decided over the weekend to endorse Obama but waited until after voters cast their ballots to announce it on Wednesday.

"I just think Senator Obama is the face of America," Council, a commissioner from Cumberland County, said in an interview with The Associated Press. "When I looked at it, I was so excited at the fact that he was bringing in so many new people and there was an excitement around the campaign."

Clinton won the Indiana primary narrowly early Wednesday, but the overall impact of the night's two contests was to lengthen Obama's lead in national convention delegates without fundamentally altering the nature of the race. The results also prompted former Sen. George McGovern, a Clinton backer of several months, to urge her to drop out while endorsing her rival.

Obama has 1,840.5 delegates to 1,688 for Clinton in The Associated Press tally. It takes 2,025 delegates to win the nomination in Denver this summer.

Clinton told reporters it would take 2,209 or 2,210 delegates to win the nomination, not the 2,025 in use by the Democratic National Committee. The higher total would come into play if the delegations were seated from Michigan and Florida, two states that held primaries outside the time frame that party rules required.

The former first lady campaigned for months to have new votes in both states, although lately has said she merely wants the delegations seated.

Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, said on Tuesday night it was possible a compromise could be worked out to seat the Michigan delegates. He did not mention Florida.

Asked at her news conference whether she intended to remain in the race through the convention roll call, Clinton said, "I'm staying in this race until there's a nominee and obviously I am going to work as hard as I can to become that nominee."

Clinton backers appeared on early morning television programs to stress that she was still in the race and to urge party leaders and elected officials known as superdelegates not to flee to Obama.

"This candidacy and this campaign continues on," Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson said on CNN.

Obama was 184.5 delegates shy of the number needed to secure the Democratic nomination, his campaign finally steadying after missteps fiercely exploited by the never-say-die Clinton.

His campaign dropped broad hints it was time for the 270 remaining unaligned superdelegates to get off the fence and settle the nomination.

In a counter to Wolfson, Obama communications director Robert Gibbs said: "The delegate math gets exceptionally harder for Senator Clinton every day."

In a memorandum to superdelegates, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe reminded them of the delegate math necessary to secure the nomination. He said Clinton would need to win 68 percent of the remaining delegates to win _ an extremely unlikely scenario, made harder by her poor performance Tuesday.

"With the Clinton path to the nomination getting even narrower, we expect new and wildly creative scenarios to emerge in the coming days," Plouffe wrote. "While those scenarios may be entertaining, they are not legitimate and will not be considered legitimate by this campaign or millions of supporters, volunteers and donors."

It was in the superdelegate arena _ even more than in the scattered primaries left _ that the Democratic hyperdrama was bound to play out.

Clinton vowed to compete tenaciously for West Virginia next week and Kentucky and Oregon after that, and to press "full speed on to the White House."

But she risked running on fumes without an infusion of cash, and made a direct fundraising pitch from the stage in Indianapolis. "I need your help to continue our journey," she said.

And she pledged anew that she would support the Democratic nominee "no matter what happens," a vow also made by her competitor.

But her campaign schedule belied any immediate reconciliation. West Virginia holds its primary on Tuesday. Kentucky and Oregon hold their contests a week later. Puerto Rico is scheduled for June 1 followed promptly by Montana and South Dakota on June 3.

Her campaign is making the case that those contests are crucial to her and will press Democratic party officials to resolve disputed contests in Michigan and Florida, which she won but whose results the party voided because the primaries were held ahead of the schedule set by Democratic Party rules.

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Associated Press Writers Mike Baker in Raleigh, N.C., Liz Sidoti in Shepherdstown, W.Va., Tom Raum in Chicago and Nedra Pickler in Washington contributed to this report.

 
 

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Clinton is going to win West Virginia and Kentucky, perhaps Oregon. So what? Obama has won and these remaining states are just "closing up all remaining loose ends." Obama has asked us not to worry. about her voters and he is right. It is simply unthinkable that any true Democrat, or democratic party leaning Independent, would vote for the most corrupt, incompetent party over what is at least, "a breath of fresh air".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 05/11/2008

Strikes me....if her rabid & compulsive isometrics/resistance work were on a butterfly machine, by now, she would have the most awesome pecs and so boobs....in either the Senate or the Loony Bin....whichever she ends up in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 05/11/2008

Why is Hillary always trying to change the rules to make it convenient for her. It's not the SNC rules its the Hillary Clitnon fly by the seat of your pants,huff and puff, get it anyway you can game. It appauling how they pander to her and ignore what has been the standard for many, many years. Hillary has many more opportunities ahead for her and Obama will make her case better than anyone else.
He'sll get the nomination and she'll slide right into the attorney general, speaker of the house.
foreign relations or anything else that wields a great deal of oppression or back room influence.

But their have to wait for their fraud trial to end.http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilcasesummary/index.asp

The DNC has 1200 pages on HRClinton, wonder what they say. COuld it be whitewater?
Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers or the cleaning bill for Monica's dress?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 05/09/2008

My take - Hillary is a very scorned woman - her infidel bubba has been forced to do whatever it takes to give her back her dignity - yes, the presidency of the US - she will accept no less for remaining married to him keeping him from full impeachment!!

Sorry Hill, William Jefferson Clinton OWES you America does not!

Just my take.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 05/09/2008

Gladys....ding, ding, DING. And why can't she be like Kobe's wife? She was good to go just via a gazillion karat diamond.

OMG

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 05/11/2008

Obama shouldn't touch Hillary with a ten foot pole. The Clinton's are on trial for fraud.
http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilcasesummary/index.asp

How's this for guilt by association; The Clinton former pastor Reverend WIlliam Procanick has been convicted of Child Molestation. http://www.uticaod.com/homepage/x1637676857

Reverend Dean Snyder, the Clinton's present pastor, salutes Reverend Wright as an outstanding church leader.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 05/09/2008

for sheer sensationalism the media suggests Hillary ought to be Obama's selection for VP - "that woman" is diametrically opposite Obama's platform - she is old washington, where great ideas go to DIE!! Surely she does not believe that baby boomers alone can elect her president!!

No matter, Hillary is pitifully crawling while her "bubba" plows throughout rual america preaching racial pollarizaton ~ how sad!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 05/09/2008

Hillary is proving every day what a poor selection she would be if she were the nominee. Besides the pandering, she played the race card today by stating essentially that she is the choice of the non-educated whites, and that only she can deliver them. She essentially stated that white America will never vote for a black man. Wow. Looks like all of those years hanging around the bubba gumps in Arkansas rubbed off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 05/09/2008

The point is that pacifists, the AA community and young people cannot win the General Election by themselves. They will have a very hard time showing the rest of us that they will have the interest of America in mind with their choice of candidate. If Obama gets the nomination he will lose McGovern like - or lose at least 49 states. Obama may win the nomination by blackmail - but the rest of us Democrats know we are being blackmailed. The superdelegates are suppose to save the party from extinction by voting their conscious. The AA community and other Obama supporters won't let them. I call it blackmail which is even more reason not to vote for Obama. He won't honor American voters. He plays a game of poker with a really bad hand and his bluff might just work. It will just prove to the rest of Americans how weak and impotent the Democratic Party is - they can't even stand up to one of their own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 05/08/2008

In reply to the above, I believe Obama could lose the Democrats the election. Whatever is going on behind the scenes to push him to the forefront it could backfire. As far as these Super Delegates go how trustworthy are they. It is a really stupid set up to throw the final decision into the hands of a bunch of questionable characters who are looking for political positions.

Obama has run around pandering to them and they certainly are buyable. Note the one who offered to sell his vote for 20 million. If we had the rules of the Republican party Clinton would have had the nimination weeks ago when she took all those major states. NY, NJ Ohio, CA . PA.......... Shame on the Democrats for allowing this blackmail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 05/09/2008

LOL. Yes, lets just ignore that he has the most pledged delegates, and the popular vote, and the most contests won. This is not the Republican Party, we split delegates based on the number of votes recieved. She new the rules of the Democratic Party when she began this. The only people she has to blame is her own campaign for where she is right now.

She was quick to take advantage of the super delegates before the the first contest even started. As of January first she had something in the order of a 100 declared super delegates, all to give her the air of inevitability. The people didn't buy it. She tried to claim experience. The people didn't buy it. She tried to claim change. The people didn't buy it.

She is going to make an excellent Senate Majority Leader, Attorney General, Secretary of State, or Supreme Court Justice.

Sen. Obama has won the middle class, the educated, black, religious, atheist, and even white vote, in more states and by greater numbers than Senator Clinton. This is something ignored by her campaign and the MSM because it doesn't tell the narrative they want. They want it to be about race, about sex, and about experience versus inexperience (ignoring that Senator obama has served twice as long as an elected official than Senator Clinton). The MSM loves conflict, and I'm sad to say, it appears that Sen. Clinton's campaign does too.

Look deeper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/09/2008

Barack Obama started out this primary election 30 or 40 points behind in most states because of lack of name recognition and became a front runner. He accomplished this without the rogue elections in MI and FL and despite the fact that he was not able to campaign to become known as in other states where he prevailed and despite the fact that in MI his name was not even on the ballot. Hillary with the help of the MSM came back three times and called herself the "Comeback Kid". In each instance he regained the lead to become the front runner while carrying the Rev. Wright association and pure unadulterated racism by Rush Limbaugh and salacious emails and robocalls accusing of being a Muslim and unpatriotic. Now you tell me who is the REAL "Comeback Kid"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 05/08/2008

I'm still concerned that a poll yesterday showed that 1/3 of Clinton's supporters said they'll vote for McCain if she loses, and 16% won't vote at all. That's about half! I'm guessing most of this is racism since so many are willing to stupidly vote against their interests or not vote at all rather than vote this brilliant - but black - man into office. What a shame.

As a result, I'm again thinking that my original view that an Obama-Clinton ticket is the answer to a sure-fire White House win. I was angry at some of her earlier statements to disparage him, but that's the mean side of politics. As Obama said, we have to keep our eye on the ball - which is to NOT repeat four more years of Bush via McCain. It wouldn't surprise if he selects her, and if he does, I'm okay with it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 05/08/2008

I, too, feel that an Obama/Clinton ticket is the answer to a win. The reason that folks want to vote for McCain is not because of racism ---- why is that always the fallback reason?

In any event, just in case Obama is the nominee, I've created shirts that address the other Hillary supporters who still will vote for Obama over McCain

(they're found in my anti-mccain section of my cafepress site found in my profile)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 05/08/2008

It was poor judgement for Obama to run in this primary election. I vote on experience and policies. I'm guessing that it is more than a third of Hillary supporters who will not vote for Obama in the General. Obama's "math" does not represent very many General Electric voters. By scamming the primary process (flooding the caucuses in particular so that the win in red states only represent 3-4% of the GE Democratic voters) - he looked more electable than he was. Even primaries represent only 15% of GE Democratic voters.

If the Democratic Party nominates such a weak candidate with the GE election voters, they will be committing suicide. They know it. They also know they are being blackmailed by the AA community.

What to do? Let Obama do the suicide act. The summer will tell the story. If Hillary is not nominated at the convention, a majority of her supporters will accept that the party label has been taken away. We will find a new party. I will not vote for a suicide terrorist. That is what Obama will represent by the end of the summer to most Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 05/08/2008

When we started supporting Hillary or Barack we did so because we believed the war was wrong for America's interests. We believed healtcare was a human right, not a priviledge for the rich. We believed people should have a fair shot at the American dream. We believed government should listen to the people and not to rich corporations.

Somewhere along the road, we started rooting for the candidates more than for the goals, and now we are like teenage high school children fighting over lockers. We pout and say we will not vote because we didn't get our way... We should be ashamed of ourselves if we let our petty egos stop us from uniting on our common causes.

We must unite and make sure the agenda OF OUR CANDIDATE doesn't fail. So some of us won and some lost when it comes to our desires to see a specific person as President... Ok, we have the right to be upset. But lets get over it quickly, because Hillary and Barack are delivery people... what counts is the Democratic agenda getting delievered. That is what we need to be fighting for first and foremost!

I think our candidates would be ashamed of us if we said we supported them and then decided their agenda was nothing compared to our egos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 AM on 05/08/2008

Really an interesting phenomenon to watch one candidate & his followers beg his opponent to drop out of the race; never seen it before.

Obama's can't win unless FL & MI are disenfranchised; he can only be given the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 05/08/2008

ONe thing Hillary Clinton can do to show her sincerity and leadership is agressively lead efforts to pass her Gas Tax Holiday bill in Congress. Let's see the evidence of her capacity to fight for the people.

My guess is that that issue is as dead as Hillary's chance at the nomination. It was calculating pandering for short term gain, and you will not hear another peep about it from Hillary, who knows it is foolish, impractical and doomed.

Let's see just how honest Hillary is. The Gas Tax Holiday is a great test.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 05/08/2008

I think it's just fine if Clinton and Obama go the rest of the distance as long as the negativity is discontinued, particularly by the Clinton campaign. It's great tht we all get to participate and have our say in the presidential nomination. For once we all get to feel like we matter. When it gets to the general we must all work to make sure McCain is not elected. He's a really scary individual and candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 05/08/2008

The only way Hillary can win is if Obama is brought down/destroyed. That is, based on the "electability" argument.

Given that, negativity is an essential tool for Hillary. How can she stop using that tool?

That's the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 05/08/2008

The Anti-Obama, Anti-Wright, and Anti-Clinton GOP Model Has Been Tested -- And It Failed

The Republican brand has been so badly damaged that if Republicans try to run an anti-Obama, anti- Reverend Wright, or (if Senator Clinton wins), anti-Clinton campaign, they are simply going to fail.

Newt Gigrich

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26376

Thank you George Bush for damaging the Republican brand so badlly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 05/08/2008

I think it's great. Republicans do have ideas. They'll have to run on them.

Finally, it seems, we have a Democrat who will run on our ideas, instead of reacting to whatever Republicans SAY are our ideas.

A real debate! Imagine that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 05/08/2008

The Republicans do have ideas, yes, but they are not salable to the American people it they aren't mis-characterized and misrepresented.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 05/08/2008

What are the ideas of the Democrat?

I've got the Hope and Change part, it's the rest of it that I'm not clear about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 05/08/2008

Take off your Cheney glasses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 05/08/2008

Take off your Dick Cheney glasses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 05/08/2008

congratualations Obama supporters, you've now selected the weakest of the candidates for your party..or so it seems like the selection has been made.
Just like many conservatives can't identify with their party anymore, I can't identify with the democratic party either.
I don't have alot of time to post as I've got to get my day going. but I will say this. Geraldine Ferraro was right, is right and come November will be proven to be right.
So go on and select the candidate on idealism alone and see what that gives you.
until later..
I do know one thing, our country really needs to focus on education on reality...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 05/08/2008

He really is back. He turned the debate around, again.

The National Republican Congressional Committee put out a statement yesterday: "this is a change election". They're parroting Obama, not Clinton.

They know that because they lost the last two special Congressional elections. They tied those last two Congressional candidates to Obama, with nasty smear ads about nothing, and then the Democratic candidate won.

Obama isn't passively reacting to Republicans. He isn't allowing them to set the agenda. The gas tax is a perfect example.

McCain introduces idea, Clinton reacts to Republican idea, Obama sticks to his position.

Look, we've done that FOR YEARS. It doesn't WORK.

Iran is another example.

McCain is uber-hawk on Iran, Clinton, fearing that Democrats will be portrayed as "weak on national security" follows McCain. Obama sticks to his position.

Obama is running as a Democrat. He's running on his own positions, not reacting to Republican proposals. It's a position of strength.

I have waited years for a Democrat to do this. Why don't Democrats have any faith in Democratic positions? Why are we always on defense?

This is better. The other is fear-based.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 05/08/2008

Right. Obama is making his point. He is showing strengts, whatever the odds against him are. He made his points, he convinced the electorate and, thus, he prevailed. THAT'S the stuff REAL presidents are made of!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 05/08/2008

Why was Obama against the Iraq War in the first place?

He said it was a "bad idea" but did he ever give specifics?

Was there a rationale for thinking it was a bad idea or just a gut feeling? Did he offer an alternative plan or just opposition to everyone else's plan?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 AM on 05/08/2008

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.
I am not opposed to all wars. I"m opposed to dumb wars
- Barack Obama -2002

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 05/11/2008

Why don't you research that and get back to us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 05/08/2008

Excellent post, kay. He's giving us a chance to vote for someone and for certain positions on issues. I am sick and tired of voting against people and against positions on issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 05/08/2008