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Thomas B. Edsall

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Obama Victorious, Clinton On The Ropes

May 7, 2008 12:48 AM


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About Thomas B. Edsall

Thomas B. Edsall is the political editor of the Huffington Post. He is also Joseph Pulitzer II and Edith Pulitzer Moore Professor at the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism. From 1981 to 2006, he was a political reporter at the Washington Post. He is the author of Chain Reaction and Building Red America. Tom can be reached at edsall@huffingtonpost.com.


Hillary Clinton, who for seven weeks has crawled, kicked and bitten her way back into contention, suffered a blow on Tuesday, halting the momentum behind her bid for the nomination just when she had begun to regain credibility.

In the universe of political clichés, she is on life support, her oxygen choked off, her knees buckling, unable to stanch the bleeding, down for an eight count, on the ropes, praying for the bell to ring, desperate to get her wind back.

The results yesterday were a split decision, with Obama winning big in North Carolina and Clinton apparently carrying Indiana by a few percentage points. Clinton was widely viewed as needing a double-digit win in Indiana, and either a close loss or actual victory in North Carolina.

In North Carolina, she suffered a crushing, 15-point-plus defeat at the hands of Barack Obama with 115 convention delegates at stake. He won black voters, who are roughly a third of the state's Democratic primary electorate, by a 91-7 margin. White voters, who make up just over 60 percent of the state's Democratic voters, backed Clinton 61-37.

In Indiana, Clinton appeared headed for a more modest 2 point or less victory. There, she won 60-40 among white voters, who made up 80 percent of the turnout, while losing black voters 8-92.

Clinton's success among white voters is very likely to continue to raise questions concerning Obama's viability among whites, who play a larger role in general elections than in Democratic primaries.

For Hillary, the outcome in Tuesday's primaries was particularly painful, coming after an extraordinary revival of her campaign with solid victories in Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

"After the Reverend Wright controversy, Hillary Clinton had the nomination in her hands. Obama was suffering the worst press month of his campaign," said Republican media consultant Alex Castellanos. "Then she had a choice. She could have gotten bigger, more presidential, less political, could have risen to defend Obama. 'This is outrageous and has no place in politics.' She didn't do that. Instead, she chose to become smaller, more political, less presidential. Her own political instincts betrayed her."

The demographic patterns on Tuesday suggest an intensification of racially polarized voting.

In the March 4 Texas primary, Clinton won whites (46 percent of the total), by 55-44; she won Latinos (32 percent of the total) by 66-32, while Obama carried blacks by 84-16.

In Ohio, also on March 4, white Democrats (76 percent of the primary turnout) backed Hillary 64-34, while blacks (18 percent of primary voters) supported Obama 87-13.

Seven weeks later, in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, white Democrats (80 percent of primary turnout) voted 63-37 for Clinton while blacks (15 percent of the total) votes 90-10 for Obama.

"It looks like a big win for Obama in North Carolina and a narrow win for Clinton in Indiana," said Emory political scientist Alan Abramowitz as the first exit polls were released. "That's not good for Hillary. She needed a breakthrough -- a big win in Indiana and a win or a narrow loss in North Carolina. It looks like she's not going to get either. Obama will add to his delegate lead."

It is unlikely, however, that Clinton will give up at this stage.

"I can tell you right now [what the Clinton people will argue]. The battle goes on, a fight to the death, one delegate at a time, never say die, millions of Democratic voters yet to be heard, white working class people will vote for McCain instead of 'him,' blah, blah, blah," declared Lawrence F. O'Brien, Democratic lobbyist, donor, and the son and namesake of the Democratic National Committee chair in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Open Left's Chris Bowers wrote: "Given that Obama was already ahead... and that there are now very few states remaining, that is a very good night for him....it is just what he needed to help turn around the media narrative."

Clinton has demonstrated an extraordinary will to win, and a refusal to quit when she was losing primary after caucus after primary. Her campaign is now arguably at the stage where it is dependent on miracles -- like the surfacing of a new, and worse, Jeremiah Wright controversy or a Chicago scandal implicating Obama.

Norman Ornstein, of the American Enterprise Institute, contended, in effect, that it's all over but the shouting:

"I have long viewed this in a simple way: two things matter, delegates and popular votes. If Obama wins both, he cannot be denied the nomination. If these numbers [early returns] hold up, he will erase her gains in Pennsylvania and have a near-insurmountable popular vote lead. That will do it, and I expect a stream of superdelegates to move to him in the coming week-plus."

While it was clearly Obama's night, there were some small glimmers of hope for Clinton in the exit poll data.

In Indiana, she very narrowly beat Obama (51-49) among men, held her own (56-44) with working and lower middle class voters without college degrees, and won among the one in five white, self-described "independents" -- often an Obama constituency -- by a slim, 52-48 margin.

In addition, the 67 percent of Indiana voters primarily concerned with the economy now completely eclipse the 18 percent who give top priory to the Iraq war. Hillary wins the economy voters by 53-47, while Obama carries the Iraq-priority voters by 54-46.

Conversely, the significance of Clinton's victory in Indiana was undermined by indications that a statistically significant number of Republicans, perhaps as many as 7 percent of all the votes cast, were following the suggestion of conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh to cast ballots for her in the Democratic primary.

Further elaboration can be found in the analysis of my colleague Sam Stein. Just over one in ten Indiana Democratic primary voters was a Republican, a constituency that has backed Obama on other contests, but in Indiana Clinton won them 53-47, possibly as a result of Limbaugh's exhortations.


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I saw a funny site urging Hillary to drop out:

http://www.SurrenderHillary.com/gallery

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 05/11/2008

I guess flipping HRC off isn't considered mean, wow, how low does one have to go.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 05/10/2008

Nervous Democratic Leaders Weigh Giving Nomination to "Generic Democrat"
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1754

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 05/10/2008

Barack can't show anger because he would be labeled as a black, angry man. Hillary has been allowed to be angry and mean, but it is described as toughness. Go figure.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 05/09/2008

News Flash: North Carolina, has 60% white voters. Obama WON North Carolina. But, I'm sure Hillary will tell you differently. I like the way Bill and Hillary always attempt to place a psychological image in a constituents mind. That DEAL BREAKER phrase came back to haunt them in a BIG WAY.
In N. Carolina and Indiana.

Dear Chillfactor,
At this time Senator Obama is only 4 superdelegates behind Senator Clinton, he's picked up 7 to her 3.

How can a person be a presential candidate while on trial in a L.A. Superior Court for fraud.
YOUTUBE: The Video Hillary Doesn't Want You TO See. Paul v. Clinton,

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilcasesummary/index.asp

This is being spread around to the superdelegates. Also lets deal with the guilt by association angle. Bill and Hillary former pastor William Protanick has been convicted of child molestation.
And, as a consequence, their present pastor Rev Dean Snyder touts Reverend Wright a an outstanding church leader. Guess Hillary will have to leave that church.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 05/09/2008

Baraka Obama... you got to love him. I wish all guy watched and learn from Obama. Especially this guy... www.beingeddieblack.com

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 05/09/2008

If the election were held today Obama would not lose to McCain! McCain is a fraud and a dispicable joke for a presidential nominee! Obama is already presidential. He brings class back to Washington and dignity, dignity that has been lost for so long in the politcal sphere.

Obama for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no other option! Arianna for VP!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 05/09/2008

If the election were held today, Obama would loose to McCain,

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 05/09/2008

we'll see...mccain has had a free pass from MSM for months and Bo has been villified ala guilt by association...once (if) MSM blowtorch is aimed toward McCain how he does.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 05/10/2008

On to the general! Teddy just hammered the HillBilly!

BHO '08!!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/09/2008

Hillary is not running for the Presidency any longer. She is running for the Vice-Presidency position. Her hope is to create a discussion she is indispensable to the ticket's chances of winning in November.

After sliming all reason and common sense Hillary wants people who have supported her to now support her on the November ticket?

After Hillary and Bill have insulted Black people as well as their political aspirations in every conceivable way, they want people to vote for her in November?

Considering how Hillary and Bill attempted to gut Obama, she is hoping she can make a case she should be on the ticket?

I would rather see Obama loose in November than have Hillary and Bill as running mates. Hillary and her New York crowd would demean him for his time in office.

IT IS A DOG AND PONY SHOW I DECLINE TO PARTICIPATE IN.

Hillary's hope would be to be the three testicle Vice President (a.k.a Dick Cheney) on the Obama ticket.

If something were to happen to Obama with Hillary as vice president it would be hell to pay.

There is no way I'll vote for Hillary in any election.

So we will have to watch her run and listen to her noise as she now attempts to make a case she should be the Vice-President.

Personally that is just to many testicles for me to deal with.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 05/08/2008

Yah, I agree. If Barack had any testicular fortitude he would have acknowledged that he can't handle the heat instead of taking cheap shots at his much worthier opponent. After his pathetically inept performance at the ABC Debate, where he was burned toast for all to see his weaknesses and LACK OF GUTS, he went on to make sexist gestures in N.C. It's the only way this juvenile can deal with his anger and inanity...what a pathetic loser...and he thinks McCave "has lost his bearing"--Barry Hussein Obama never had any to begin with....

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 05/09/2008

One expression comes to mind when I saw lastnight spanking!!!
'Hilli... WHO'S YO DADDYYYYY!!!!!'

Personally I must agree with the pundits and talking heads, Hillary is on her way out.
What I can't get my head around is why she's being a sucker for punishment?
She's close to spending (what's the latest figure?) 23 million dollars of her own money?
And she's still beggin for more scraps.
A side note (if you're running for President and having money problems running your campaign, then how in the hell can one think they can solve the country money problem?)

I'm a prideful person myself, but I know when to call it quits!

What I disagree with the talking heads is some claims she's a fighter (lol).
Well a fighter knows when to turn and run (to fight another day).

It looks like Hillary has an obsession about winning, and for the life of me I can't figure it out her behavior on this.
Her action doesn't help anyone but the Republicans, and it hurts the party and more importantly the people.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 05/07/2008

Yah. sure. Agreed. Hussein looks like a loser what with his obsession of applying for the Top Job when he should be applying for a Speech Writer's position for Daddy McCave! He's a pathetic wannabe with the backing of billionaires like Kennedy (unconvicted in the death by drowning of MaryJo Kopechne '71) George Soros and Oprah and of course Getty's. With the help of the sexist media and his Obamabot followers who've never stoppped trashing Hillary since Day 1, he's managed to make it this far. He says daddy McCain has "lost his bearings". Now we can add "ageist" to "sexist" on His resume, eh!...what a jokester...

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 05/09/2008

Barack gave his typical grandma and his spiritual dad both a good spanking throwing them under the bus of his own political survival! His obsession with grasping power before he's ready to hold it is pathetic. But his campaign's trashing of Sen. H. Clinton and his sexist remarks will be remembered by the electorate in november...Like Rev. Wright said (he wasn't wrong!): Barack's just another typical Chicago politician....he'll do anything to get elected!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 05/09/2008

Gee, and I thought Barack needed a good spankin for his performance on stage immitating JayZ and giving his fellow-senator Hillary Clinton the you-know-what! Barack's sexist obsession started in his kicking Sen. Alice Palmer off the ballot in Chicago back in 95. This woman helped the upstart then and he repaid her by knocking her off the ballot, when he had promised he wouldn't! Then he threw his 'typical white grandma' under the bus of his Political Expediency. Then he threw his 'typical Spiritual Father' under it, too. Rev. Wright was not wrong when he said "Obama's just another typical politician who'll say what he has to say to get where he wants to get'!. His obsession with power, before he's ready to do the job, is pathetic. And his misogynist campaign surrogates have trashed his opponent in the open while he prefers to hide behind his xeroxed eloquence. What a fraud,.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 05/09/2008

Total Clinton debt is close to $23 million, but only $11.4 million is from Hillary. Wait did I just say ONLY??!

After seeing have poorly run her campaign is does anybody seriously think she could run the country??

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 05/08/2008

I have a correction on the amout of money Clinton loaned, 6 million and some change.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 05/07/2008

It seems as if I've waited all my life to see the Clinton's finally exposed and rejected for what they are. That it was their own core, far left supporters that turned on them and smeared them and trashed them and hated them made it even better.

one thing spoils this however.

I now see all who hate, spin, smear, and trash as being fooled and sucked into a radicalized right vs left or left vs right world that is designed to control and manipulate them.

If you hate, if you smear, if you trash....then you are human being that is being manipulated. The truth is in the middle. The way is the way of moderation. radical left and radical right, far left, far right, neo-con, progressive.....extremes inhabited by ignorant, extreme people.

Hillary was crushed by the very crowd of hate that protected her in the past from her crimes and corruption. But my satisfaction in seeing the crowd of hate turn on her was greatly diminished by realizing that it's these very hate mongers who are trapped, being used, and manipulated. Not thinking for themselves but aroused and manipulated to give power to others. To do so with the fervor of a religious zealot but for a radicalized POLITICAL cause as opposed to a radicalized RELIGIOUS cause. It's the same radicalized psychology.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 05/07/2008

Gloat, gloat, gloat.

Come Nov 5 the day after McCain is elected easily, you will not be gloating and will wonder what the devil you did...

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/07/2008

Wishful thinking will never be mistaken for sound political opinion or discourse.

teacus, start practicing:
"President Obama"

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 05/07/2008

I hate to break this to you, but McCain is the sacrificial lamb of the republican party. Maybe he'll win some sympathy votes, but little else. You've had 8 years and McCain is the best you could come up with??? Pretty sad......

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/07/2008

I've always thought he was the sacrificial lamb as well. Karl Rove neutered him in 2000 for the GWB win. The John McCain in 2000 was fierce & didn't pander to the extremists - this McCain I don't even recognize.

I am more disappointed in how my own party, (Republican), has been highjacked by religious extremists. Not all republicans vote solely on anti-abortion sentiment, yet if some puppet spouts the magic words - "PRO LIFE, CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES, STEM CELL RESEARCH", the extremists don't really care what else they are saying.

The "Evangelical group" is the loudest minority, yet the most pandered to. I don't want a group of religious fanatics determining my healthcare; my end of life care; my television viewing; our childrens' science & history education. They poison the minds of the uninformed who trust them & prejudice our judicial system with their demands & threats. What other group could get away with calling for the deaths of "liberal judges" & blanket hatred of muslims.

What is truly shameful is their failure to recognize the damage these choices make on our society & the hateful way we treat each other. I watch CSPAN & listen to members of our House & Senate address each other in such with such hate & contempt. How can anything every be accomplished if we can't even be civil with each other?

This is why I vote for Obama & if Jim Webb ever wants to step up to the plate I'll support him

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 05/08/2008

Good for you thisoldbroad. I hated how the far right propagandized my religious mother with their extremist fear-mongering. I once had some respect for John McCain but he has been completely co-opted and as you say neutered.

The "magic words" that get people elected no matter how bad their other policies are for the American people reminds me of in the Cold War how the worst dictators only had to say they were "anti-communist"and as long as they were against those atheist commies we would support them no matter if their policies were as repressive as the worst communist countries themselves.

I like Jim Webb too and think he would be a good VP choice.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 05/10/2008

Hear, hear!

I'm fairly liberal myself but I agree with everything you just said. I like it that Obama appears to have this power to bring together people of different stripes and colors, especially Republicans and conservatives.

It's beautiful, and I hope Obama wins in the fall, because I thnk we're all ready for some change.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 05/08/2008

See you suckers in November.

We'll be the one's covered in confetti and balloons.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 05/07/2008

Threats, threats, threats!

Who's gonna help McCain remember his name?

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 05/07/2008

the longer hillary stays in now, the more suspicious i will become. does she know something we don't know? it''s over toots. get over it. goodbye. it's not like she can't run again.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 05/07/2008

I don't know why she thinks she can keep on going and "buy" the Presidency,
I'd be embarrassed!

we need to get united and start debating with McCain NOW!

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/07/2008

the girls gotta pay her rent.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 05/07/2008

I think Clinton feels it is important to show her constituents she is a fighter. I also feel that some people think this is keeping the democratic party energized, and interested in politics. Maybe even more people will register to vote as democrats if she stays in the contest until the end. I believe you will see the personal attacks on Obama fade away now, and most of the campaigning of both Obama and Clinton will be focused on McCain. You must admit, whether you like her or not, it would probably be a long boring summer for politics if she dropped out now.

replyReply favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 05/07/2008

It'd be great to see McCain facing Obama, and wouldn't be boring at all.
I actually feel sorry for McCain, because without a tele-prompter, he's to