Obama Victorious, Clinton On The Ropes

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First Posted: 05- 7-08 12:48 AM   |   Updated: 05-14-08 05:12 AM

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Hillary Clinton, who for seven weeks has crawled, kicked and bitten her way back into contention, suffered a blow on Tuesday, halting the momentum behind her bid for the nomination just when she had begun to regain credibility.

In the universe of political clichés, she is on life support, her oxygen choked off, her knees buckling, unable to stanch the bleeding, down for an eight count, on the ropes, praying for the bell to ring, desperate to get her wind back.

The results yesterday were a split decision, with Obama winning big in North Carolina and Clinton apparently carrying Indiana by a few percentage points. Clinton was widely viewed as needing a double-digit win in Indiana, and either a close loss or actual victory in North Carolina.

In North Carolina, she suffered a crushing, 15-point-plus defeat at the hands of Barack Obama with 115 convention delegates at stake. He won black voters, who are roughly a third of the state's Democratic primary electorate, by a 91-7 margin. White voters, who make up just over 60 percent of the state's Democratic voters, backed Clinton 61-37.

In Indiana, Clinton appeared headed for a more modest 2 point or less victory. There, she won 60-40 among white voters, who made up 80 percent of the turnout, while losing black voters 8-92.

Clinton's success among white voters is very likely to continue to raise questions concerning Obama's viability among whites, who play a larger role in general elections than in Democratic primaries.

For Hillary, the outcome in Tuesday's primaries was particularly painful, coming after an extraordinary revival of her campaign with solid victories in Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

"After the Reverend Wright controversy, Hillary Clinton had the nomination in her hands. Obama was suffering the worst press month of his campaign," said Republican media consultant Alex Castellanos. "Then she had a choice. She could have gotten bigger, more presidential, less political, could have risen to defend Obama. 'This is outrageous and has no place in politics.' She didn't do that. Instead, she chose to become smaller, more political, less presidential. Her own political instincts betrayed her."

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The demographic patterns on Tuesday suggest an intensification of racially polarized voting.

In the March 4 Texas primary, Clinton won whites (46 percent of the total), by 55-44; she won Latinos (32 percent of the total) by 66-32, while Obama carried blacks by 84-16.

In Ohio, also on March 4, white Democrats (76 percent of the primary turnout) backed Hillary 64-34, while blacks (18 percent of primary voters) supported Obama 87-13.

Seven weeks later, in the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, white Democrats (80 percent of primary turnout) voted 63-37 for Clinton while blacks (15 percent of the total) votes 90-10 for Obama.

"It looks like a big win for Obama in North Carolina and a narrow win for Clinton in Indiana," said Emory political scientist Alan Abramowitz as the first exit polls were released. "That's not good for Hillary. She needed a breakthrough -- a big win in Indiana and a win or a narrow loss in North Carolina. It looks like she's not going to get either. Obama will add to his delegate lead."

It is unlikely, however, that Clinton will give up at this stage.

"I can tell you right now [what the Clinton people will argue]. The battle goes on, a fight to the death, one delegate at a time, never say die, millions of Democratic voters yet to be heard, white working class people will vote for McCain instead of 'him,' blah, blah, blah," declared Lawrence F. O'Brien, Democratic lobbyist, donor, and the son and namesake of the Democratic National Committee chair in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Open Left's Chris Bowers wrote: "Given that Obama was already ahead... and that there are now very few states remaining, that is a very good night for him....it is just what he needed to help turn around the media narrative."

Clinton has demonstrated an extraordinary will to win, and a refusal to quit when she was losing primary after caucus after primary. Her campaign is now arguably at the stage where it is dependent on miracles -- like the surfacing of a new, and worse, Jeremiah Wright controversy or a Chicago scandal implicating Obama.

Norman Ornstein, of the American Enterprise Institute, contended, in effect, that it's all over but the shouting:

"I have long viewed this in a simple way: two things matter, delegates and popular votes. If Obama wins both, he cannot be denied the nomination. If these numbers [early returns] hold up, he will erase her gains in Pennsylvania and have a near-insurmountable popular vote lead. That will do it, and I expect a stream of superdelegates to move to him in the coming week-plus."

While it was clearly Obama's night, there were some small glimmers of hope for Clinton in the exit poll data.

In Indiana, she very narrowly beat Obama (51-49) among men, held her own (56-44) with working and lower middle class voters without college degrees, and won among the one in five white, self-described "independents" -- often an Obama constituency -- by a slim, 52-48 margin.

In addition, the 67 percent of Indiana voters primarily concerned with the economy now completely eclipse the 18 percent who give top priory to the Iraq war. Hillary wins the economy voters by 53-47, while Obama carries the Iraq-priority voters by 54-46.

Conversely, the significance of Clinton's victory in Indiana was undermined by indications that a statistically significant number of Republicans, perhaps as many as 7 percent of all the votes cast, were following the suggestion of conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh to cast ballots for her in the Democratic primary.

Further elaboration can be found in the analysis of my colleague Sam Stein. Just over one in ten Indiana Democratic primary voters was a Republican, a constituency that has backed Obama on other contests, but in Indiana Clinton won them 53-47, possibly as a result of Limbaugh's exhortations.

Hillary Clinton, who for seven weeks has crawled, kicked and bitten her way back into contention, suffered a blow on Tuesday, halting the momentum behind her bid for the nomination just when she had b...
Hillary Clinton, who for seven weeks has crawled, kicked and bitten her way back into contention, suffered a blow on Tuesday, halting the momentum behind her bid for the nomination just when she had b...
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I saw a funny site urging Hillary to drop out:

http://www.SurrenderHillary.com/gallery

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 05/11/2008

I guess flipping HRC off isn't considered mean, wow, how low does one have to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 05/10/2008
- DonDavis I'm a Fan of DonDavis 2 fans permalink

Nervous Democratic Leaders Weigh Giving Nomination to ‘Generic Democrat’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1754

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 05/10/2008
- Msohio I'm a Fan of Msohio 7 fans permalink

Barack can't show anger because he would be labeled as a black, angry man. Hillary has been allowed to be angry and mean, but it is described as toughness. Go figure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 05/09/2008
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 21 fans permalink

News Flash: North Carolina, has 60% white voters. Obama WON North Carolina. But, I'm sure Hillary will tell you differently. I like the way Bill and Hillary always attempt to place a psychological image in a constituents mind. That DEAL BREAKER phrase came back to haunt them in a BIG WAY.
In N. Carolina and Indiana.

Dear Chillfactor,
At this time Senator Obama is only 4 superdelegates behind Senator Clinton, he's picked up 7 to her 3.

How can a person be a presential candidate while on trial in a L.A. Superior Court for fraud.
YOUTUBE: The Video Hillary Doesn't Want You TO See. Paul v. Clinton,

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilcasesummary/index.asp

This is being spread around to the superdelegates. Also lets deal with the guilt by association angle. Bill and Hillary former pastor William Protanick has been convicted of child molestation.
And, as a consequence, their present pastor Rev Dean Snyder touts Reverend Wright a an outstanding church leader. Guess Hillary will have to leave that church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 05/09/2008

Baraka Obama... you got to love him. I wish all guy watched and learn from Obama. Especially this guy... www.beingeddieblack.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 05/09/2008

If the election were held today Obama would not lose to McCain! McCain is a fraud and a dispicable joke for a presidential nominee! Obama is already presidential. He brings class back to Washington and dignity, dignity that has been lost for so long in the politcal sphere.

Obama for President!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!

There is no other option! Arianna for VP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 05/09/2008
- unscum I'm a Fan of unscum 9 fans permalink

If the election were held today, Obama would loose to McCain,

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May09.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 05/09/2008

we'll see...mccain has had a free pass from MSM for months and Bo has been villified ala guilt by association...once (if) MSM blowtorch is aimed toward McCain how he does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 05/10/2008
- reelcobra I'm a Fan of reelcobra 6 fans permalink

On to the general! Teddy just hammered the HillBilly!

BHO '08!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 05/09/2008
- keriheb I'm a Fan of keriheb 6 fans permalink

Hillary is not running for the Presidency any longer. She is running for the Vice-Presidency position. Her hope is to create a discussion she is indispensable to the ticket's chances of winning in November.

After sliming all reason and common sense Hillary wants people who have supported her to now support her on the November ticket?

After Hillary and Bill have insulted Black people as well as their political aspirations in every conceivable way, they want people to vote for her in November?

Considering how Hillary and Bill attempted to gut Obama, she is hoping she can make a case she should be on the ticket?

I would rather see Obama loose in November than have Hillary and Bill as running mates. Hillary and her New York crowd would demean him for his time in office.

IT IS A DOG AND PONY SHOW I DECLINE TO PARTICIPATE IN.

Hillary's hope would be to be the three testicle Vice President (a.k.a Dick Cheney) on the Obama ticket.

If something were to happen to Obama with Hillary as vice president it would be hell to pay.

There is no way I'll vote for Hillary in any election.

So we will have to watch her run and listen to her noise as she now attempts to make a case she should be the Vice-President.

Personally that is just to many testicles for me to deal with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 05/08/2008
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One expression comes to mind when I saw lastnight spanking!!!
'Hilli... WHO'S YO DADDYYYYY!!!!!'

Personally I must agree with the pundits and talking heads, Hillary is on her way out.
What I can't get my head around is why she's being a sucker for punishment?
She's close to spending (what's the latest figure?) 23 million dollars of her own money?
And she's still beggin for more scraps.
A side note (if you're running for President and having money problems running your campaign, then how in the hell can one think they can solve the country money problem?)

I'm a prideful person myself, but I know when to call it quits!

What I disagree with the talking heads is some claims she's a fighter (lol).
Well a fighter knows when to turn and run (to fight another day).

It looks like Hillary has an obsession about winning, and for the life of me I can't figure it out her behavior on this.
Her action doesn't help anyone but the Republicans, and it hurts the party and more importantly the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 05/07/2008
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I have a correction on the amout of money Clinton loaned, 6 million and some change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 05/07/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 61 fans permalink
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Total Clinton debt is close to $23 million, but only $11.4 million is from Hillary. Wait did I just say ONLY??!

After seeing have poorly run her campaign is does anybody seriously think she could run the country??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 05/08/2008

It seems as if I've waited all my life to see the Clinton's finally exposed and rejected for what they are. That it was their own core, far left supporters that turned on them and smeared them and trashed them and hated them made it even better.

one thing spoils this however.

I now see all who hate, spin, smear, and trash as being fooled and sucked into a radicalized right vs left or left vs right world that is designed to control and manipulate them.

If you hate, if you smear, if you trash....then you are human being that is being manipulated. The truth is in the middle. The way is the way of moderation. radical left and radical right, far left, far right, neo-con, progressiv­e.....extr­emes inhabited by ignorant, extreme people.

Hillary was crushed by the very crowd of hate that protected her in the past from her crimes and corruption. But my satisfaction in seeing the crowd of hate turn on her was greatly diminished by realizing that it's these very hate mongers who are trapped, being used, and manipulated. Not thinking for themselves but aroused and manipulated to give power to others. To do so with the fervor of a religious zealot but for a radicalized POLITICAL cause as opposed to a radicalized RELIGIOUS cause. It's the same radicalized psychology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 05/07/2008

Gloat, gloat, gloat.

Come Nov 5 the day after McCain is elected easily, you will not be gloating and will wonder what the devil you did...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 05/07/2008
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 60 fans permalink
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Threats, threats, threats!

Who's gonna help McCain remember his name?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 05/07/2008
- graffen48 I'm a Fan of graffen48 9 fans permalink
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I hate to break this to you, but McCain is the sacrificial lamb of the republican party. Maybe he'll win some sympathy votes, but little else. You've had 8 years and McCain is the best you could come up with??? Pretty sad......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 05/07/2008

I've always thought he was the sacrificial lamb as well. Karl Rove neutered him in 2000 for the GWB win. The John McCain in 2000 was fierce & didn't pander to the extremists - this McCain I don't even recognize.

I am more disappointed in how my own party, (Republican), has been highjacked by religious extremists. Not all republicans vote solely on anti-abortion sentiment, yet if some puppet spouts the magic words - "PRO LIFE, CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES, STEM CELL RESEARCH", the extremists don't really care what else they are saying.

The "Evangelical group" is the loudest minority, yet the most pandered to. I don't want a group of religious fanatics determining my healthcare; my end of life care; my television viewing; our childrens' science & history education. They poison the minds of the uninformed who trust them & prejudice our judicial system with their demands & threats. What other group could get away with calling for the deaths of "liberal judges" & blanket hatred of muslims.

What is truly shameful is their failure to recognize the damage these choices make on our society & the hateful way we treat each other. I watch CSPAN & listen to members of our House & Senate address each other in such with such hate & contempt. How can anything every be accomplished if we can't even be civil with each other?

This is why I vote for Obama & if Jim Webb ever wants to step up to the plate I'll support him

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 05/08/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 321 fans permalink
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Wishful thinking will never be mistaken for sound political opinion or discourse.

teacus, start practicing:
"President Obama"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 05/07/2008
- hip dibler I'm a Fan of hip dibler 10 fans permalink

the longer hillary stays in now, the more suspicious i will become. does she know something we don't know? it''s over toots. get over it. goodbye. it's not like she can't run again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 05/07/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 94 fans permalink
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I don't know why she thinks she can keep on going and "buy" the Presidency,
I'd be embarrassed!

we need to get united and start debating with McCain NOW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 05/07/2008
- graffen48 I'm a Fan of graffen48 9 fans permalink
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I think Clinton feels it is important to show her constituents she is a fighter. I also feel that some people think this is keeping the democratic party energized, and interested in politics. Maybe even more people will register to vote as democrats if she stays in the contest until the end. I believe you will see the personal attacks on Obama fade away now, and most of the campaigning of both Obama and Clinton will be focused on McCain. You must admit, whether you like her or not, it would probably be a long boring summer for politics if she dropped out now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 05/07/2008
- chlllfactor I'm a Fan of chlllfactor 118 fans permalink
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Hillary has gone way beyond being a fighter. Her pursuit of the nomination has now morphed into a total and complete obsession. Personally, I prefer a long, boring summer devoid of Hillary's antics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 05/07/2008
- janmB I'm a Fan of janmB 7 fans permalink

I have never been more ashamed of this country and the way the MEDIA and people like this JERK Odsell . has to show his sociopathic hate for women. by the things said and treatment of Mrs. Clinton.

I feel so sorry for her --I can't tell you. She has tried to elevate the status of women --but even some women won't support her for it.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE ASHAMED OF THIS COUNTRY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 05/07/2008


Well, you better not be the spouse of a candidate to run for president.

Those words will come back and bite you in the ass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 05/07/2008

That's good. Shame is good. Mrs. Obama is also ashamed of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 05/07/2008

Get a grip! This is trivial to the horror Mr. Bush and his forces have created in Iraq, in the environment, in the incompetent administration of our country. That should give us all real shame. This is tiny in comparison.
As the father of three daughters, I want to have a female President more than anyone I know. However, I want a female President who is trustworthy and has personal integrity. Mrs. Clinton has not demonstrated that basic trait since her Whitewater days in Arkansas. Her inability to apologize for a judgement error, like her vote to allow the Iraq attack, mimics her spouse's inability to apologize for his personal life. And I am aware that we have not held the old white men who've been President to an integrity standard, but they didn't have to run against Mr. Obama in 2008. They would have lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 05/07/2008

oh...?? so YOU can be ashamed of your country...but, should Michelle Obama say the same words...she & her husband are then UNPATRIOTIC...?? Either one of these candidates had A FAIR SHOT at being the nominee. Hillary spun negative...and the American public is TIRED OF THE SAME OL' BS...such as her Republicanesque "slash & burn" campaigning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 05/07/2008

You stupid bimbo. I'm sorry to be offensive, but it's true. She USED you.
A woman for the sake of having a woman? A woman who only got into the limelight as "wife of"? A woman who lies and smears and panders?

My wife - of 33 years - would like a woman president, but one who would be a role model for our daughters, not one who has no integrity, tries to change rules to suit her, rides on her husband's accomplishments, and is owned by lobbyists.

I am ashamed at her campaign. She has campaigned in the Bush image.

I am not against Hillary because she's a woman - I am against her for her lack of integrity and only caring about herself.

How could she praise McCain over Obama? She'd so anything, say anything to get back in the business of renting out the Lincoln bedroom.
Can't you see that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 05/07/2008

It'd be great to see McCain facing Obama, and wouldn't be boring at all.
I actually feel sorry for McCain, because without a tele-prompter, he's toast.

Change is coming....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 PM on 05/07/2008
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