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Obama Camp Faces Major Obstacles In Plan To Help Clinton Pay Off Debt

First Posted: 5/16/08 Updated: 5/25/11

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Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are running into two major stumbling blocks.

The first is obvious: the deep and growing animosity of Obama supporters towards Clinton, whom they see as raising issues of race and 'elitism' that will hurt the Illinois Senator in November.

In an interview with USA Today for example, Clinton declared: "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," citing an AP article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me."

The second is less obvious: Mark Penn.

For many Obama backers, Penn, the former chief strategist for Clinton and head of one of the biggest PR-lobbying conglomerates in the nation's capital, is the quintessential Washington insider, capitalizing on political connections to become a multi-millionaire.

The immediate problem with Penn -- whose conflicts of interest plagued the Clinton campaign and ultimately led to his being publicly, if not privately, repudiated -- is that if Obama helps Clinton pay off her debts, a big chunk of those debts -- an estimated $10 million or more -- is owed to Penn.

Penn is the CEO of Burson-Marsteller, which has "a global network of 94 offices and 1600 employees that brings world-class public relations to companies around the world."

Burson-Marsteller is one of the 246 companies owned by WPP, a leading global advertising and marketing services group. WPP controls a powerful array of public relations, advertising and lobbying companies, including Hill and Knowlton; Dewey Square; Ogilvy and Mather; Public Strategies Inc.; AGB Nielsen Media Research; Quinn Gillespie and Associates; Timmons and
Company; Wexler and Walker Public Policy Associates; Young and Rubicam Brands.

Penn, who remains a top adviser to Clinton, was forced to step down as the face of the Clinton strategy team after disclosures that he was meeting privately with the government of Colombia to promote congressional approval of a trade agreement which Clinton - and her most loyal voters -- oppose.

Consideration by the Obama camp of providing financial help to Clinton would be part of a peace-making process in the event that she withdraws from the presidential nominating contest.

Under federal campaign finance law, the Obama campaign cannot directly pay off Clinton's debts, or the $11.43 million she has loaned the campaign, because that would violate campaign contribution limits. But if Obama is the nominee, he and his donor base could provide invaluable help to her in raising money through signed appeals, joint fundraisers and by other
methods.

The Obama campaign does not want to be identified as having discussions about Clinton's finances. Obama aides used the term "chit-chat" to dismiss any such discussions.

Many of Obama's grassroots and netroots backers appear to be outraged at the thought that the Obama campaign might step in to lend a hand to get Clinton out of a financial hole -- and out of the race -- as was reported
Wednesday
.

The Huff Post web site was flooded with more than 1,200 complaints on this score:

"No! No! No!" wrote a commenter using the web name 'Realbluesky'. "The Clintons have proven what kind of scum they are." 'Dbrockx' wrote: "Why is she being rewarded for disrupting the Democratic party and trying to sabotage Obama?" 'Amber09' pulled no punches: "The Clintons would never help Obama if this was reversed! They would be laughing they asses off that a
black man could dare to think he could beat the Clinton machine! The Clintons created the mud pond, let them now stay in the mud they created!"

Both Obama and Clinton have broken all Democratic fundraising records. Through the first quarter of this year, Obama raised $234.7 million, and Clinton $189.1 million. As of March 31, the date of the most recent FEC filing, Obama had $51.1 million in the bank and just $662,784 in debt, for a net cash position of $50.4 million; while Clinton had $31.7 million in the bank, debts of $15.2 million, and had loaned the campaign $6.4 million. (The FEC lists debts and loans separately.) More recently, Clinton disclosed that she had made her campaign additional loans, bringing the total amount she has loaned to her effort to $11.4 million. At the same time, her campaign was running close to broke for much of last month. Details of fundraising and
spending for the month of April do not have to be filed until May 15.

Money is a central issue in the delicate negotiations that many expect to lead to a Clinton withdrawal. A winning candidate often offers to do whatever is legal to help a loser pay down debts. In this case, there is exceptional animosity between the two camps. Furthermore, Penn's interest in any negotiations are sure to be pressed very aggressively by the Clinton campaign's new Chief Operating Officer, Howard Paster. Paster was brought in immediately upon Penn's retreat, and, as it happens, Paster is Penn's boss. Paster is the executive vice president for public relations and public affairs at Burson-Marsteller's parent company, WPP.

In his new capacity as COO of the Clinton campaign, Paster is almost certain to be central in deciding how much of any money Obama might help raise for Clinton is used to pay off the debt to Penn. This set of relationships will undoubtedly impact the enthusiasm of Obama donors for a
Clinton-Obama pact.

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Top officials of the Barack Obama campaign are privately exploring ways to help Hillary Clinton discharge her debts and pay back the $11.43 million she has loaned her organization, but they are runnin...
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Trial and Appellate Lawyer for the Underdog.
11:36 PM on 05/10/2008
If I were Obama I would not give Clinton one nickle. Maybe a new penny stamp. Her racist attitudes do not deserve any reward except a role in the Senate. Hit up Burkle for the cash.

To think I supported Bill Clinton during the impeachmen­t proceeding­s. If I knew then what I know now I would have supported the move to impeach to enable Gore to be President. Gore was young enough to serve two more terms and we would not have had that idiot in the White House to screw up America.

Hell no.

Martin S Friedlande­r, Esq.
www.freedo­mpost.type­pad.com
11:05 AM on 05/10/2008
I take this guys writings with a grain of salt. Notice how he makes it sound as if it would be wrong for Obama to donate to something involving Mark Penn, and the irony being the guy is part of Clintons campaign. Their hyprocrasy knows no bounds.
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NoahVail
...a curmudgeon from So. Arizona
06:59 AM on 05/10/2008
Oh, I guess I misread the headline. I thought it said,

Obama Camp Feces Major Obstacles In Plan To Help Clinton Pay Off Debt

I guess she didn't really step in it. Or did she?
01:46 AM on 05/10/2008
have yet to hear this coming out of obama camp so why is even being discussed.
03:03 PM on 05/10/2008
I guess, it's a slow news day.

The idea of one opponent bailing out another, more wealthier one is absurd. Clinton made the bad financial decisions ( and I don't mean running, but rather her lavish spending in 2007, when her candidacy was "inevitabl­e" ).

It'll be a hit to their finances, of course, but the Clinton's aren't going to sink personally­, if they have to pay these loans from their personal account or some other slush fund.
01:30 AM on 05/10/2008
I used to like them (Clintons) so much but I no longer have any kind of respect for them whatsoever­! I say let her pay her own debts herself.

How do you invite someone out to dinner if they just got through kicking you in the balls?

The idea of Obama asisting here with her debt; which she accumulate­d going after him is simply asinine!

Oh Hillary? Chappequa is callingggg­gggggggggg­ggg!
03:13 AM on 05/11/2008
AMEN!!! As a passionate Obama supporter, there is absolutely NO WAY that I would support his giving one single penny to these racists!!! I used to support them. That was in the 90's, when I thought they were nice, democratic­, caring people!!! I was one of their enablers. Boy, was I wrong! I wouldn't enable or support them for dog-catche­r, after the dirty campaiging that both of them have done during this season!!! Let these millionair­es pay off their own debts!!! Not one single nickle out of our pockets for these racist sleezy monsters!!­! NO WAY!!!
12:33 AM on 05/10/2008
What ever happened to those quintessen­tial American fund raising occasions, the barbeque and the bake sale? While it's perfectly true there's a cap on what even the most successful bake sale could realize, multiply it by two thousand or ten thousand, and Hillary's debt begins to shrink dramatical­ly. At a prospectiv­e net of one thousand dollars per bake sale, ten thousand bake sales would net ten million dollars. Why couldn't the DNC declare September 1st Hillary Sunday. Children of Democrats all across the country could bake their favorite cookies and sell them, at churches, mosques, and synagogues­, to children of other Democrats. Cookies left over from the sale could be given to the homeless.

Yours sincerely,

Handel Glassberg, President
The Playdo Institute
11:57 PM on 05/09/2008
"After stopping for lunch at Luis' Taqueria in Woodburn, Ore., Obama told reporters it was premature for him to talk with the Clinton camp about possibly helping her retire her multimilli­on-dollar campaign debt, much of it from Clinton's personal loans.

Asked if he might consider such a move later, Obama said: "Historica­lly, after a campaign is done and you want to unify the party, particular­ly when you've had a strong opponent, you want to make sure that you're putting that opponent in a strong position so that they can work to win an election in November. And so obviously I'd want to have a broad-rang­ing discussion with Senator Clinton about how I could make her feel good about the process and have her on the team moving forward."

-By CHARLES BABINGTON and BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writers
Fri May 9, 5:32 PM ET

http://new­s.yahoo.co­m/s/ap/200­80509/ap_o­n_el_pr/de­mocrats;_ylt=AmJw­6KUEDJWAEs­Qg3D1utHlh­24cA
11:52 PM on 05/09/2008
Hillary can't be trusted to keep an agreement, even if she receives help to pay off her debt. Not that it is a good idea to have that money to pay off the debt that she has to Mark Penn.
What is there to stop her to continue to knee-cap Barack, so that he becomes unelectabl­e this year? I really think that she wants to be president in 2012, if she does'nt make it this year. She is focused, to be sure, but the direction that she takes is UNKIND, UNTRUE, AND UNNECESSAR­Y!
10:11 PM on 05/09/2008
I HAVE TO STRONGLY CAUTION ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS WHOSE STATES HAVE NOT YET VOTED, PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE WHEN YOUR VOTING DATE ARRIVES. THE RACE IS NOT OVER, SO DO NOT BUY INTO WHAT THE MEDIA IS SAYING. THEY ARE GIVING OFF A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.

IF THE MEDIA ARE ABLE TO GET OBAMA'S VOTERS TO STAY AT HOME, WITH THE FALSE SENSE THAT OBAMA HAS ALREADY WON, HILLARY WILL WALK OFF WITH THE NOMINATION­, BECAUSE YOU BETTER BELIEVE THAT HILLARY IS TELLING HER SUPPORTERS TO GO OUT AND VOTE.

OBAMA SUPPORTERS­, THIS RACE IS NOT DONE UNTIL ALL THE VOTING IN EVERY STATE IS DONE.
SO OBAMA VOTERS GET OUT AND VOTE, NO MATTER WHAT THE MEDIA SAYS, OBAMA NEEDS ALL YOUR VOTES, THIS RACE IS NOT OVER UNTIL ALL THE STATES HAVE VOTED!!!
11:40 PM on 05/09/2008
Hope your message gets out.

Hillary cannot be trusted until Obama wins the election in November (and even then she bears watching). Remember what happened in Michigan and Florida. He'll help her pay off her $25 million debt and she'll still try to steal the election from him. Hope he signs a clause that only half will be paid up front and the rest if, and only if, he gets the election in November. She'll sabotage him every chance she gets. She has no character.
09:56 PM on 05/09/2008
Everyone needs to stop getting their panties in a bunch. Obama can't just give her some money from his campaign coffers. Christophe­r Beam explains the rules and the rational over on slate in his Trailhead blog:

"Obama can’t just “pay back” Clinton’s debt. FEC rules limit contributi­ons from one candidate committee to another at $2000, according to FEC spokesman Bob Biersack. So even if Obama wanted to cut Hillary a $10 million check, he couldn’t. Nor could he route his money through the DNC, since national party committees can only give $5000 to a candidate committee.

What Obama can do is fundraise for her."
09:22 PM on 05/09/2008
The Clintons still have 100 million dollars, let them pay their own debts. They got into this mess, let them get out of it. Don't do it, and don't pick her as VP.
09:12 PM on 05/09/2008
Obama, don't do it!
09:05 PM on 05/09/2008
If Obama does this HE will be making the biggest mistake of his career. First she would not return the favor if she were the nominee. Aslso it would sit well with his contributo­rs, they would feel like their contributi­onw led to her comfortabi­lity, after a long and racially abusive campaign. I'm sure this practice may well be standard operating procedure with election procedures but it will not be seen that way among his constituen­ts. These people are on trial for fraud, and the DNC knows it.
http://www­.lasuperio­rcourt.org­/civilcase­summary/in­dex.asp

He should check out Paul v. Clinton also YOUTUBE: "The Video Hillary Doesn't Want You To See"

Also: Speaking of guilt by associatio­n, the Clinton's former pastor Reverend William Procanick has been convicted for child molestatio­n. http://www­.uticaod.c­om/homepag­e/x1637676­857

The Clinton's present pastor, reverend Dean Snyder, states that Reverend Wright is an outstandin­g church leader. Guess Hillary will have to leave that church.

OBAMA/BIDE­N 08'
01:34 AM on 05/11/2008
It is not true that Clinton's ex-pastor was a child molester. It is true that "former Clinton pastor" - as in a man who was formerly a pastor in Clinton, NY (Oneida County) - has been convicted of child molestatio­n.
09:03 PM on 05/09/2008
One should be able to assume that the Clintons are mature adults who can handle their own affairs. Someone seeking the Presidency should be a responsibl­e person. However, if Hillary needs some financial advice from Mr. Obama's campaign it might be a good idea. After all Obama ran a very efficient campaign and has a bunch of money in the bank now even after mounting extensive ads, etc. But the Clintons must have spent their donations recklessly and are broke. Apparently they could use some help learning how to handle money better, how to live within their means, and how to choose their profession­al associates more wisely.
08:49 PM on 05/09/2008
IF OBAMA HELPS HILLARY REPAY HER LOAN OBAMA'S A FOOL
Senator Obama:

Get some self-respe­ct. To reimburse Hillary for being disrespect­ful to you will doom your Presidency and make people think that your are a wimp ass punk.

Dude, please do not even offer Hillary's staff any jobs in your campaign or your administra­tion. Do not offer Hillary, Bill, Chelsea or any of Hillary's staff judgeships­, positions within your administra­tion or ambassador­ships...

PLEASE DO NOT OFFER HILLARY TO BE YOUR VP.

Senator Obama if you want to be respected by America and the world after this campaign and as senator or President you must cut the Clintons and Hillary's staff out of the picture.

No one will respect you if you allow the Clintons to be greatly involved in your campaign.
If you want the Clintons to make a few "healing the party" campaign speeches for you take them with you to a few campaign stops, pick up the tab and tell them thank you. But do not pay them $12 million dollars to support your campaign. Hillary keeps spending so that you will have less to use against McCain; by the time Hillary steps out of the process in August the Clintons could cost you $30 million. Why in the world should you pay the Clintons to run their incompeten­t campaign and trash you?

Sen. Obama you don't owe the Clintons anything the Clinton's consider you "the least experience­d person," "unexperie­nced" and "the not experience­d enough person."