Secretary Rice Blames Iran, Syria For Lebanon Violence

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MATTHEW LEE | May 9, 2008 05:37 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — The Bush administration accused Iran and Syria on Friday of fueling ongoing violence in Lebanon by inciting members of the radical Shiite Hezbollah movement to take up arms against the country's western-backed government.

As Hezbollah militants seized control of large parts of Beirut, the administration denounced the show of force, which it said was being supported by Iranian and Syrian elements. The U.S. also reaffirmed its support for Prime Minister Fuad Saniora's shaky coalition and vowed to hold those responsible accountable.

"Backed by Syria and Iran, Hezbollah and its allies are killing and injuring innocent citizens and undermining the legitimate authority of the Lebanese government and the institutions of the Lebanese state," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in a statement.

"Seeking to protect their state within a state, Hezbollah has exploited its allies and demonstrated its contempt for its fellow Lebanese," she said. "We will stand by the Lebanese government and the peaceful citizens of Lebanon through the crisis and provide the support they need to weather this storm."

Rice spoke by phone with Saniora, United Nations chief Ban Ki-moon and the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia and France about the situation. The White House said the United States was talking "with other governments in the region and with the U.N. Security Council about measures that must be taken to hold those responsible for the violence in Beirut accountable."

"Hezbollah's relationship with Iran and Syria, as well as its history of international terrorism and provision of lethal support and training to Iraqi-based extremist groups, demonstrates the threat it poses to international peace and security," White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said.

At the State Department, spokesman Sean McCormack said the United States had evidence that Iran and Syria, in particular, were beginning to take an active role in encouraging the three-days violence that has killed at least 14 people and wounded 20 since it began.

"It is becoming more apparent now that the linkages that we know exist and are ongoing between Hezbollah and Syria and Iran are starting to manifest themselves in the current crisis," he said. "At the beginning we didn't see it, but we are now."

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Specifically, McCormack said U.S. officials were seeing "groups and individuals that are known associates and proxies of Syria ... starting to engage. Groups that are linked to Syria and that are in Lebanon right now are taking a much more active roll in fanning the flames and violence and attacks that are destabilizing the political situation."

A senior State Department official later identified three former pro-Syrian government ministers as "fully owned subsidiaries of Syria" who had taken to the airwaves Friday in support of Hezbollah. "These sorts of people don't get involved unless they have been told to do so," the official told reporters.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the delicacy of the situation in Beirut, added that U.S. analysts did not believe Hezbollah would have started the fight without "some kind of green light from Iran."

The United States has grown increasingly concerned about the violence _ Lebanon's worst sectarian fighting since the 1975-1990 civil war _ as it has unfolded and Hezbollah has taken control of key parts of Beirut from Sunnis loyal to the Saniora's government, which has been wracked by a long-running political deadlock.

Since Israel fought a monthlong war with Hezbollah militants in southern Lebanon in 2006, Washington has given the Lebanese government $1.3 billion in aid, including $400 million in training and equipment for the army and police forces.

On Friday, though, officials said they were not considering any major changes to that package and would focus instead on political and diplomatic support. They praised Saniora's government, as well as the army, which has stayed out of the fighting, for their professionalism and commitment to the Lebanese people.

"The army is acting in a professional manner," McCormack said. "We believe it is an effective professional force that is working on behalf on this government and on behalf of the Lebanese people. We think that the government is exercising sound judgment."

The army has pledged to keep the peace but not take sides in the long deadlock _ which pits Shiite Hezbollah and a few allies including some Christian groups, against the U.S.-backed government, which includes Christian and Sunni Muslims.

The State Department is considering how to protect an estimated 50,000 U.S. citizens in Beirut if conditions worsen, although it is assumed that many would not choose to leave because they hold dual nationality and have families in Lebanon.

The senior State Department official said there was no decision on what advice to offer Americans there, or about how to help any who choose to leave since the Beirut airport and main seaports are virtually shut down.

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Associated Press writer Desmond Butler contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — The Bush administration accused Iran and Syria on Friday of fueling ongoing violence in Lebanon by inciting members of the radical Shiite Hezbollah movement to take up arms against ...
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There is only one reason Iran/Syria are enemies of the United States, it's because they are enemies of Israel. The majority of the Lebanese including a vast number of Christians support Hezbollah, in fact the largest christian group whose leader is Michel Aoun supports and is allied with Hezbollah. We the United States brand anyone that does not bow to us terrorists. Ronald Reagan puts it into perspective, he says a terrorist is someone else's freedom fighter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 05/10/2008

What do we know or understand? Just recently I had lunch at a restaurant. The waitress told me that she is Muslim, Palestinian, but she was born in the U.S. and raised here. When she was a teen her father suddenly changed and insisted they dress like muslims and behave like muslims. She had considered herself an American. When she found out that I am jewish she did not like that too much, nevertheless, on a human level it made not much of a difference to either of us. She asked my companion to pick up some meds for her, as she could not leave her job. Anxiety medicine. Her father, a shopkeeper, had recently been murdered, here in the U.S. No one knew why, by whom, etc. Hence the woman's high anxiety level. Palestinians, who make up much of Hezbullah, are NOT from Lebanon, but from Jordan, Syria, and just recently even from Iraq. Some are from Egypt. Why are they taking over Lebanon, or attempting to? Why does Hezbullah have to have its own media in Lebanon, and why can it not just be part of the government without trying to dominate and take over? Anyone? Also, Iran certainly is not next door to Israel, or even Lebanon, what is its stake in meddling in both countries, making statements, supporting resistance?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 05/10/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

Palestinians do not make up Hezbollah. It is an indigenous political party of Shia Lebanese. It may be supported by Iran but it is doubtful they take orders from Tehran.

They have their own agenda and are responsible for their own actions.

They were created in response to the Lebanese Civil War as protection for (I believe) lower income Lebanese Shia who were being killed by all side in the Civil War. They have their own media and communications because that is the way things are done over there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 05/10/2008
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I'm thinking mommamia is confusing hezbollah with hamas. That's the only thing that makes sense. Not that making sense is a prerequisit for posting....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 05/10/2008
- maddie0001 I'm a Fan of maddie0001 3 fans permalink

just to be exact, Palestinians are from Palestine, not Lebanon, Jordan, Syria or Iraq. I'm sure most would like to go back there.

Also, Iran is much closer to Lebanon than America is to Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 05/10/2008

Who can really tell what is going on in Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Gaza? Who tracks which party/country the U.S. supports and with how much? How much sense does it make if a country is at war with another country, or a group, to demand that a country supports and supply weapons to its sworn enemies, or to groups which declare it does not exist? As for Lebanon, why is it the case that everyone here blames anyone but Hezbullah? Did they not attack, starting three days ago? How normal is it to have a government and regime within a country with another government, both with different armies? Just not so long ago Hezbullah kidnapped Israelis inside Israel at the same time Hamas kidnapped Israelis inside Israel in the south and both Hamas and Hezbullah had tunneled in. Yet, everyone blamed Israel when it fought back. So, what does everyone on this thread say now? Should Lebanon just allow the coup Hezbullah has attempted and let Hezbullah take over? And if it is really Syria or Iran behind Hezbullah and supporting and training Hezbullah, who is really attempting a coup and trying to take over, by proxy, another country, in this case Lebanon? How much say, if any, do Lebanese have who are NOT Hezbullah supporters? Do they have any rights at all?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/10/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

Since this started with Hezbollah's support for striking workers I think I am beginning to see a pattern.

Shia in the Middle East have been a minority. And being the minority tend to make up the under classes in their respective societies.

Ahmedinijad came to power in Iran as the champion of the lower classes. He got elected on the basis of his promises to increase economic prosperity.

Al Sadr is the champion of the poor and unemployed in Iraq. His base of support is Sadr City, the enormous Shia slum.

Hezbollah came to power in the Civil War as protectors of the Shia of Lebanon who had been used and abused by the Christian and Sunni upper classes.

I am wondering if we are looking at this the wrong way. Rather than a religious struggle maybe it is a class struggle.

Which would also explain the Bush Administrations mismanagement. They have been at war against the American working and middle class for some time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 05/10/2008
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You make a good point. The dirty little secret that the administration will not tell you is this. The big fanatical anti-Muslim sentiments have nothing to do with religion or even terrorism. Their big sin is that Muslim societies are opposed to western style CORPORATE CAPITALISM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 05/10/2008
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One of the better observations I've seen on this site.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 05/10/2008
- CC1 I'm a Fan of CC1 6 fans permalink

Bush's party has been at war with the American working and middle class long before he was elected. But good observation nonetheless about everything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 05/10/2008

Well, I agree that Condi Rice is the worst S. of S. ever!

Anyone who calls Hamas, a "resistance group," not once, but four times, ought to seek employment in the Iranian parliament.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 05/10/2008

Would someone please tell her to shutup??? She is as insignificant as a zit on the rear with about as much class. I just returned from Syria and it is a beautiful country with friendly people. Can't say the same about Israel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 05/10/2008

Timberhead posted:"Can't say the same about Israel."

Obviously because you haven't been to Israel, duh....

Of course, Syria is a beautiful country.... of course Syrian people are warm and engaging. No one disputes that. The problem is that its government is a quasi- police state ruled by a military junta and secret police which oppresses and murders the people of Lebanon.

Use your brain before you speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 05/10/2008

The October surprise we all need to worry about is a US attack on Iran or Syria. These kind of comments from the State Department are truly worrisome.

A fresh war would truly be a game-changer in November and I have no doubt the neo cons know this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 AM on 05/10/2008

Oh, no not the tiresome " we're attacking Iran in two weeks" paranoia.
I've been reading "we're attacking Iran tomorrow" comments on Huffpo for the last two years. Give it a rest. Or better yet, learn to interpret current events correctly.... now thats an idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 05/10/2008

Maybe the reason you've been reading the "we're attacking Iran in two weeks paranoia for the last two years" is because for well over two years, the Bush administration has been beating the "we must preemptively attack Iran" war drums, with repeated threats to use the "nuke option" or "all options are on the table" as a paranoid-driven propaganda campaign designed to frighten and terrify the American people into supporting yet another war of aggression.

As usual, Bushco and the media have mislead Americans into thinking the president of Iran is all powerful and the final decisionmaker. Actually, under the Iranian constitution, the president is a political figurehead whose main responsibilities are overseeing the daily administrative functions of the government. The true power rests with the Supreme Leader--the Ayatollah Khamenei. He is supported by organizations called the Guardian Council and the Expediency Council. They control the military, the police, the nuclear program, all the instruments of power. Finally, there is a group that watches over the Supreme Leader. An 86-member Assembly of Experts that is charged with electing and monitoring the Supreme Leader. Bushco knows this, but they deliberately distort and mischaracterize in order to capitalize on the peoples' ignorance-based fears.

I find it diffidult to believe that a non-nuclear nation could possibly pose any real or immediate and imminent threat to the US or Israel--both nuclear nations.

And what have you decided, neocon, is the "correct" interpretation of "current events?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 05/10/2008
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 405 fans permalink
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Why do you Republican cretins come here? Do you really think by spouting your bigotry and hate that you are somehow going to convert us?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!

All you succeed in doing that is to reinforce why we are going to bring your party down in November.

And all you big talking "Americans": prove to us you are really Americans by volunteering to go to Iraq and Afganistan. EARN your way, fellas. Don't just sit at your computers and show us how ignorant you are, do something!! Many of us have already served our country, in Vietnam. You don't have the stones to even think for yourselves, you have Rush Limbaugh do it for you. Ever wonder why he calls you "ditto heads"?

You'd better watch it, though. You spend enough time here and you might actually get an education....or get your minds tarred and feathered. LMFAO at a bunch of ignoramuses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 05/10/2008

Whats with you and Rush Limbaugh. Are you also fat and stupid like him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 05/10/2008
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I agree, while the trolls here are disruptivie and annoying, their efforts are counterproductive to the goal of being apologists for the current administration, because they simply parrot the lies of the administration. They don't seem to understand their credibility is directly linked to whom they parrot. The basically reinforce the concept that the current administration does nothing but lie.

Yes, it is amusing that these super patriots are posting their gung ho propaganda from the safety of their homes. Republicans like to talk tough but when it comes to actually being tough, suddenly they have some medical problem or quickly become pacifists, this was exemplified during the Viet Nam War when most of the draft dodgers I encountered in Canada were the children of Republicans. Matter of fact, you couldn't walk around this country without tripping over a draft dodging Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 05/10/2008
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My apologies for the double post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/10/2008
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I agree, while the trolls here are disruptivie and annoying, their efforts are counterproductive to the goal of being apologists for the current administration, because they simply parrot the lies of the administration. They don't seem to understand their credibility is directly linked to whom they parrot. The basically reinforce the concept that the current administration does nothing but lie.

Yes, it is amusing that these super patriots are posting their gung ho propaganda from the safety of their homes. Republicans like to talk tough but when it comes to actually being tough, suddenly they have some medical problem or quickly become pacifists, this was exemplified during the Viet Nam War when most of the draft dodgers I encountered in Canada were the children of Republicans. Matter of fact, you couldn't walk around this country without tripping over a draft dodging Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 05/10/2008
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Ahmadinejad (sp?) is a lunatic and maybe Iran is behind all this, but at some point the administration should present some proof. Blaming Iran for everything, including the weather above the Arctic Circle, gets kinda old and ineffective. Especially when our leaders are not the most credible bunch around the world after Iraq's WMD fiasco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 05/10/2008
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I only hope these cretins don't start something that Obama will have to deal with in November. They are crazy and paranoid enough to do something, like bomb Iran and start another war front. These loonies make me nervous, and being lame ducks, they could give a rip since there is nothing we can do to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 05/10/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 165 fans permalink

Whatever Rice says let's do exactly the opposite. Her track record on being right is about the same as Bush's at this point and we should disregard her. Maybe she will go away!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 05/10/2008
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The poverty of US foreign policy in the MIddle East is exemplified in Lebanon by the fact that

(1) Our "brave" allies there (the government we support) is made up of

(a) the head of a local party modeled on the Nazi Party. Amin's dad visited Berlin in 1936 liked what he saw. Came home and set up a fascist party which has its own deformed racialist ideology.

(b) a local thug - our own Radovan, though with a twist - he's not above massacres against his own people (Ask the Chamouns about Aquamarine)

(c) a visionary politician who makes Hunter Thompson or Timothy Leary look sober

(d) the son of a successful "businessman" who made billions "redeveloping" Beirut and who is the stooge for the House of Sau'd

With allies like this it easy to see we're on the way to another imagined great victory in Lebanon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 05/10/2008
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In the apt words of George W Bush: "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
We've been down this blame, mame, bomb, and invade game before. I'm just surprised that the fingers started pointing at Iran so soon in the game - they didn't even bother to pretend to have investigated the link - just predictably put out the ridiculous claim before getting ready for invading the largest oil resevoir left in the Middle East. Watch the secret nuke program claims that will start popping up in the midst of their weapons of mass distraction and twisted reasoning - a repeat of their blueprint for war.
I wonder if anyone has also offered the following intellgence report to Rice: The Bush Administration "is killing and injuring innocent civilians in Iraq" - maybe she may be able to step in to stop that devastating bloodshed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 05/10/2008

Hm..let's see. Iran has been at war with the US since 1979 when they captured and held Americans hostage. Iran gave us the radical Islamic revolution in 1979, but the Saudis are the ones using their petrodollars to spread Wahhabism, aka the worst form of Islamofascism, throughout the US and the rest of the world.

The Saudis made 164 $billion in oil profits last year, yet they have contributed ZERO to the World Food Bank. OPEC with over 470 $billion in oil profits contributed a paltry 1.5 $milllion.

Meanwhile, them GD, imperialistic Americans have only contributed 1.5 $billion to the World Food Bank in the past seven years.

Yup. Gotta root for the Arabs! They just don't f**k over their own "Palestinian brothers," by keeping them in squalid refugee camps for 60 years, they continue f**k over everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 05/09/2008
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"Hm..let's see. Iran has been at war with the US since 1979 when they captured and held Americans hostage." - DrRJP

You would like us to believe this all happened is some political vacuum, and had nothing to do with the fact that another failed US policy towards the ME consisted of shoving the brutal Shah of Iran down the Iranians throats. The current Republicans and the former Shah have at least one thing in common, their both guilty of torture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 05/10/2008

Support for deposed regime is NOT an excuse to take hundreds of citizens of another country hostage... especially in the view of the fact that U.S. under the Smiling Fool Peanut Baptist gave away Iran without a fight.

Then again in the Muslem apologist narrative any crime, murder or outrage committed by the poor Muslims is excused, and crime committed by the West raises hysteria of slobbering outrage. This kind of moral relativism is both repulsive and primitive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 05/10/2008

Here's a brief history of what really happened:

"In 1951, a pro-democracy nationalist, Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh rose to prominence in Iran and was democratically elected as Iran"s first Prime Minister. In 1953, the Mossadegh government chose to nationalize the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (later renamed to the British Petroleum Company, now known as BP), which controlled of the nation"s oil reserves, feeling that proceeds from oil should be used to invest in the development of Iran, rather than siphoned off as profits.

. . .they risked the wrath of the British who stood to lose a lot of power, wealth and influence gained via control of such a major energy source."

"The CIA"with British assistance"undermined Mossadegh"s government by bribing influential figures, planting false reports in newspapers and provoking street violence. Led by an agent named Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt, the CIA leaned on a young, insecure Shah to issue a decree dismissing Mossadegh as prime minister. By the end of Operation Ajax, some 300 people had died in firefights in the streets of Tehran.

The crushing of Iran"s first democratic government ushered in more than two decades of dictatorship under the Shah, who relied heavily on US aid and arms. The anti-American backlash that toppled the Shah in 1979 shook the whole region and helped spread Islamic militancy, with Iran"s new hardline theocracy declaring undying hostility to the US."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 05/10/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 148 fans permalink

Need to read some history.

try starting with WW I and colonialism. Treaty of Versailles. And how the Kingdom of Iraq came about. Not to mention France Lebanon and Syria.

And while you are at it look up the history of British Petroleum. And how fair they were in developing Iranian natural resources. Or why there might be a problem between the West and Iran.

I'm not saying what you are saying is necessarily wrong mind you. But you need WAY more context.

P.S. Lose the Islamofascism. Even the Bush Administration got rid of that word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/10/2008

It seems Bush and gang are determined to start something with Iran. Do Bush/Cheney think they need a going-away-shock and awe party? Are they just stirring stuff up so when the dems take office they have a bigger mess to handle? Why does it appear they are determined to start something with Iran? Or am I just nuts?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 05/09/2008
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No you're not. These cretins are likely to do something to screw Obama up in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 05/10/2008
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it's not about Obama. It's about war mongering liars who think they can spur the economy (well, their economy) with war, war and war. it's practically the only export we've got going these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 05/10/2008
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"Why does it appear they are determined to start something with Iran? Or am I just nuts?"
- 08timefortruth

Your not nuts, but they are!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 05/10/2008
- AdamWykle I'm a Fan of AdamWykle 8 fans permalink

The US and Israel want to give the false impression that they are not involved in Lebanese affairs when they are up to their necks (just as Syria and Iran are also involved). Who are they trying to fool?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 05/09/2008

psya krev, the post Hezbollah is killing Lebanese citizens and the only thing this fool can come up with is Israel and US. Go back to your kielbasa, dupa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 05/10/2008
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