Obama Muslim Smear Resurfaces: NYT Op-Ed Tags Obama As Muslim 'Apostate'

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First Posted: 05-12-08 05:15 PM   |   Updated: 06-25-08 06:18 PM

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For a long while, presidential contender Barack Obama had to contend with a whispering campaign that suggested he might be some sort of Islamic fanatic. You know! It was all a part of his parents' master plan to destroy America by giving their son a middle name that would come to be shared by an Iraqi dictator that no one had even heard of at the time of Barack's birth! After a while, Obama got shot of that mess and was accepted as a Christian. But then! It turned out that his preacher had said three or four things that people found objectionable, and it turned out that said preacher enjoyed all the attention he got more than he did serving his faith, so Obama had to labor to get shot of that controversy. Well, it's been a few weeks since the nation has pointedly moved on from that matter, so I guess it's time for the pendulum to swing back to the Obama-as-secret-Muslim argument.

Stepping up to fill that void is Edward Luttwak, a military strategist who apparently feels like he's got the background to start expounding on religious doctrines he's not familiar with in the New York Times. According to Luttwak, Obama's a Muslim and there's nothing he or anyone can do about it:

As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother's Christian background is irrelevant.


Of course, as most Americans understand it, Senator Obama is not a Muslim. He chose to become a Christian, and indeed has written convincingly to explain how he arrived at his choice and how important his Christian faith is to him.

In other words, nuts to Obama's professed personal choice in faith! The only thing that keeps Obama from being a Muslim is the peculiar semantic trickery of "most Americans'" understanding.

Luttwak takes pains to say, "That an Obama presidency would cause such complications in our dealings with the Islamic world is not likely to be a major factor with American voters, and the implication is not that it should be." And that would be sufficient, I suppose, were it not for the great lengths he goes to in presenting these "complications" as things that sound like they might be a "major factor with American voters."

At the very least, that would complicate the security planning of state visits by President Obama to Muslim countries, because the very act of protecting him would be sinful for Islamic security guards. More broadly, most citizens of the Islamic world would be horrified by the fact of Senator Obama's conversion to Christianity once it became widely known -- as it would, no doubt, should he win the White House. This would compromise the ability of governments in Muslim nations to cooperate with the United States in the fight against terrorism, as well as American efforts to export democracy and human rights abroad.

Allow me to translate from the original Luttwak: "I only have a faint idea what I'm talking about. But you voters should be really, really concerned. Just don't tell anyone it was me who suggested this!"

Of course, Luttwak's chiefest concern is also the most inane one:

With few exceptions, the jurists of all Sunni and Shiite schools prescribe execution for all adults who leave the faith not under duress; the recommended punishment is beheading at the hands of a cleric, although in recent years there have been both stonings and hangings.

So there you have it. If Obama is elected, we will have to break with tradition and undertake the unprecedented step of ensuring he is not beheaded, stoned, or hanged by Islamic clerics.

For a long while, presidential contender Barack Obama had to contend with a whispering campaign that suggested he might be some sort of Islamic fanatic. You know! It was all a part of his parents' m...
For a long while, presidential contender Barack Obama had to contend with a whispering campaign that suggested he might be some sort of Islamic fanatic. You know! It was all a part of his parents' m...
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- keriheb I'm a Fan of keriheb 6 fans permalink

Since when does another's perspective of a person define that person's reality?

Since when does a person become responsible for what another person does?

If this is the standard of judgment, then lets begin to view Bush/Cheney by what some people think of them. Lets begin to judge the Catholic Ministry by what some of its victims think of it. Most importantly lets give them an opportunity to vent this dribble on the op ed pages of the prestigious NYTimes.

Now that the Times has allowed itself to become the mouth piece for hatred, other hate groups deserve equal air time. Lets give the ghetto gangsta equal time. Lets give meth making red necks equal time. Pandora's box is on the loose and the NYTimes has led the charge.

The newspaper has been declining readership - no wonder.

Maybe the best way to voice a protest is to stop reading the rag sheet. Just because the editors of the Times have decided political whoring and sliming is appropriate does not mean we have to drink their gutter dribble.

BOYCOTT THE NEW YORK TIMES

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 05/14/2008
- bobwalters I'm a Fan of bobwalters 42 fans permalink

You have to remember: the NYT endorsed HRC for the Democratic nomination, and BO has shot her out of the saddle...sour grapes, maybe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 05/14/2008

isn't rupert murdoch on the ny times editorial board?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 05/14/2008
- condew I'm a Fan of condew 12 fans permalink

A reason for moslems to murder Obama; a Republican wet dream. Linkins should be ashamed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 05/13/2008

Go to TVNewsLies.org and listen to the speech from John Kennedy it is outstanding and fits today so nicely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 05/13/2008
- trbone I'm a Fan of trbone 3 fans permalink

JFK would be a reagan democrat if he were alive today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 05/14/2008

And I suppose MLK would have his own show on MSNBC if he were alive today? After reading several of your posts, trbone, I am really curious: Do you inhale or inject?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 05/14/2008
- LeeinJax I'm a Fan of LeeinJax 2 fans permalink

A bet was made. The wager was lost.

But some deadbeats want to upend the table to avoid paying the debt.

Is this Hillary the candidate? Yes...

Is this NYT the endorser? Yes...

Some people (and some newspaper editors) are really, really sore losers.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 05/13/2008

me thinks you MAY be referring to Huffpo...8)

jnot anywhere do they REALLY care what happened in West Virginia last night...8(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 05/14/2008
- lthuedk 1 I'm a Fan of lthuedk 1 67 fans permalink
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No, we have a fanatic in charge and one in waiting.

Militant corporatists and socialist ideologues have much to hide from the justice Obama could bring with him. Status quo was guaranteed with either Billary or McBush but Obama spells trouble.

Who will pardon Junior or Traitor Dick, or team Neo Con if Bill can't even help Pappy Bush?

http://www.light-to-dark.com/obama_confronts_the_corporation.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 05/13/2008

DO YOUR RESEARCH. OBAMA WAS RAISED BY HIS CHRISTIAN SINGLE WHITE MOTHER AND HAD PRETTY MUCH NO CONTACT WITH HIS FATHER WHO WENT FROM BEING A MUSLIM TO SOMEONE WITH ABSOLUTELY NO FAITH BELIEF. BARACK OBAMA IS NOT A MUSLIM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 05/13/2008
- trbone I'm a Fan of trbone 3 fans permalink

Obama is very close with his muslim family but nobody wants to talk about it. His brother Malik was his best man and vice versa. His cousin is Raila Odinga a marxist opposition candidate in Kenya who he is also close with . These are some of the sources of the muslim rumors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 05/14/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 77 fans permalink

And what is wrong with that. Religion is a private matter , it should be. Yet Americans are the only ones in the world that make it an issue, a large one at that.
Do I ask my girlfriend what religion she has, think not. I don't care. Soon we want to
know everyone's secret thoughts or at least guess at it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 05/14/2008
- bobwalters I'm a Fan of bobwalters 42 fans permalink

This is just so much innuendo horseshit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 05/14/2008

I am totally shocked to see neither a correction nor a published letter to the editor on this today. They need to correct this crap- truthfully, they'd have been better off never publishing it. If you can't yell fire in a movie theatre, then surely you can't stand the presumptive POTUS in the middle of circular firing squad and yell fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 05/13/2008
- woodsywizz I'm a Fan of woodsywizz 8 fans permalink
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Edward Luttwak is a non-veteran "strategist" whose work contains speculation stated as fact. His take on insurgencies is that when fighting guerillas, it makes no difference (in strategy or tactics) if the local populace supports the insurgents. HUUNNNHH??? Ignore the entire culture & fervently bomb guerilla "strongpoints"? Isn't why we're so hated by so many average Iraqis & Afghanis? Another armchair warrior, with glowing reviews on his book jackets - from other armchair warriors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 05/13/2008
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I live in LA, yet, although California voted for HRC, (yet might not if the primary were held today) The Los Angeles Times has the common sense and decency to not only support Obama for President, but to not stoop to rumor/innuendo/fear-mongering in its editorials. What has happened to the Times? Evertime I think about subscribinf for the Book review, this pro-Clinton propaganda sneaks up.
I know its from Hilary because I hear her supporters repeat this garbage like FLDA followers calling Jeffs a "prophet."
Also, just how can this smear be spread both ways? How can one argue Barrack really is a Muslim and then talk incessantly about his connection with Rev. Wright? Wild eyed Christian activist or Secret Muslim Man? Which one is it?
Anyone who does not get what a special human being we are blessed with in Barrack Obama hasn't paid close attention. Is change that scary when what we have is so broken it is dangerous?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 05/13/2008
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This is not coming from Hillary, and that will become more obvious as we approach November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 05/14/2008
- TRYKER I'm a Fan of TRYKER 71 fans permalink

Is change that scary when what we have is so broken it is dangerous?"

Yes change is that scary to the neocons, the jig is up for them and once it gets rolling, they haven't much of a chance. If they can derail Obama, and get Hillary into office, they are home free.
By now, the people are really geared up for change and won't stand for these roadblocks this time. We are going to get Change or a revolution is on its way. And THEN we'll get change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 05/15/2008

Some thoughtful response and criticism of Luttwak from a Jewish perspective. Very much needed in this ear of blind obedience and following the herd.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/05/12/luttwak-islamists-will-kill-obama-as-muslim-apostate/

"Edward Luttwak, one of Ronald Reagan’s original Cold Warriors, has channeled Daniel Pipes in the N.Y. Times Op-Ed section today, claiming preposterously that a President Obama will be in danger because Islamists will view his as a Muslim apostate and try to kill him.

I’ve already written about this stupid line of argument when Pipes advanced it in that august journal of Islamic thought, Frontpagemagazine. It gave me a good laugh then. Now that it’s been bruited in the pages of the N.Y. Times it’s no laughing matter. How an editor judges this to be of interest to the readers of the Times is beyond me. This is an example of editorial lunacy. Why would you take a trashy rumor published in a David Horowitz shmate and transfer it to the N.Y. Times? I feel dirty just reading it there."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 05/13/2008

So, if I'm reading this correctly, Obama is (and forever will be) a Muslim because he was born to a Muslim father? Even if he practices Christianity, he is still a Muslim because he was born that way? If this is true, why are Christian charities bothering with things like missionary work in Islamic countries, and why do people like Ann Coulter advocate "invading all Islamic countries and converting them to Christianity?" Isn't this a waste of time and resources according to this "once a Muslim, always a Muslim" logic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 05/13/2008

Does anyone but me think that if you go on national media, and talk about someone else's religion, but end up just speculating and talking out of your ass, then you should, for proper disclosure, disclose your own religious and (by extension) political leanings.

Just for the purposes of full disclosure.

I think so.

Just imagine, under all those columnist headings and editorials it reads:

Jewish ZIonist Mouthpiece. Take with grain of salt.

I don't use these terms disparagingly or as smear (so put down those pistols you know who you are).

Jewish -- if they are yes they should say, esp if they are talking about other religions in a provocative or critical way; especially Islam since that is such a sensitive topic.

Zionist -- if they back the expansionist policies of the Jewish State, whose stated goal is the expropriation of Palestinian lands, and disposession of millions of people, and the fulfillment of some long historical prophesy.

Mouthpiece -- for that is what all of these neocon zealots are. And rags like the NYT and all the MSM are just bull horns for their destructive, and often treasonous, bullshit.

Just think if we had this requirement before the war, we'd all be thinking much more clearly now, and wouldn't have to be subjected to the crap that people like Fieth filth on us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 05/13/2008
- 1dogs2 I'm a Fan of 1dogs2 133 fans permalink

The NYT is under no obligation to publish unsolicited op-ed pieces. They are inundated with them. I'd like an explanation of why the editors found this uninformed and rather nasty piece of idiotic speculation, clearly designed to engender both anti-Muslim and anti-Obama bias in the reader, worthy of publication.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 05/13/2008
- NYC07 I'm a Fan of NYC07 72 fans permalink

Yes it's all true Obama is the "Muslim Manchurian Candidate" I hear that after he wins the election he is planning a coup to overthrow himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 05/13/2008
- Gemma08 I'm a Fan of Gemma08 12 fans permalink
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LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 05/13/2008
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I'm sure they commissioned it fr. Luttwak. Which is even more depressing than if it came in over the transom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 05/13/2008
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