Clinton's Big Win Doesn't Really Matter

McClatchy Newspapers:

Hillary Clinton clobbered Barack Obama in West Virginia Tuesday, but her late win in a small state likely did little to slow rival Barack Obama's march toward the Democratic presidential nomination.

Clinton won the overwhelmingly white state in a walk -- by a landslide margin of 2-1, according to exit polls -- and used the results to argue that Americans shouldn't count her out yet.

"After tonight's tremendous victory here in West Virginia, it's clear that the pundits declaring this race over have it all wrong. The voters in West Virginia spoke loud and clear -- they want this contest to go on," Clinton said in a message e-mailed to supporters Tuesday evening.

"I'm going to carry the energy of tonight's victory into the next contests in Kentucky and Oregon. ...You have worked your heart out, put yourself on the line for what you believe in and given generously. And I'm not about to turn my back on you."

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Comments

[lllllllllllllll]

Hillary is a witch and will do anything to win. She broke the Colombia Trade Agreement for votes. And she also broke the agreement about counting the MI and FL primaries after she concurred with the rules that they voted too soon and their votes shouldn't count. She'll break ALL the rules if it suits her campaign, and that's one of the reasons why most voters find her untrustworthy.

[lllllllllllllll]

Hillary is a witch and will do anything to win. She broke the Colombia agreement for votes. And she also broke the agreement about counting the MI and FL primaries after she concurred with the rules that they voted too soon and their votes shouldn't count. She'll break ALL the rules if it suits her campaign, and that's one of the reasons why most voters find her untrustworthy.

[JFaye]

What matters is that Senator McBush, sorry Candidate McCain has major stories breaking regarding lobbyist influence with his campaign and there is hardly any coverage because Senator Clinton is more a distraction than anything else.

For the good of the party, she needs to concede and she doesn't have the balls to do so, then the superdelegates need to cast their votes now and put an end to this futile "fight."

It's time for the Democratic Party leaders to LEAD with some meaningful strategy and stop given John McCain a free walk! Democracy does not translate into foolishness.

[afgail]

For the good of the nation Hillary needs to stay in the race. The ObamaNation is tone deaf. It is profoundly unAmerican to demand that Hillary quit the race while she is still wining in Democratic and swing states. And the endless demands that she quit is really turning off her supporters, possibly for good. Doesn't bode well for the general election. Talk about Obama shooting himself in the foot.

[JFaye]

This race is bigger than Senators Obama or Clinton.

When I have to sit and force myself to look at the scarred and disfigured face of a young solider horrifically wounded in Iraq and return home where his stricken parents must fight/advocate for medical treatment, my focus is on ending the Bush era and its politics of war and error. It's unpatriotic to not medically support wounded veterans!

Like other Americans, to pull up to a gas pump and pay $3.97.5 a gallon to fuel my vehicle, my focus is on ending the Bush era and its politics of favor towards big oil companies.

Everyday of my life is a struggle to meet the medical and healthcare needs of a child with severe disabilities as the insurance companies and pharmaceutical corporations gross profits increase. Again, my focus is on ending the Bush era and what began with NAFTA to reward corporate executives whilst squeezing the workers.

It's personal for me and if Senator Clinton were in Senator Obama's position, I would support her candidacy because my focus is on ending the Bush era which Senator McCain will with certainty embrace and continue. It's the issues I care about!

[Ruwa]

My problem with Hillary is that she swifted boat Barack every way she could.

Start with:
Geraldine Ferarro: Obama’s Lucky He’s Black
then,
Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.,
again,
san francisco' s Bitter Gate
latest,
White hard working American

Oh, by the way, she didn't do it, all she did was quoting or someone said it.

Most anoying is that she ithink she is above the rules and she can lie even she was agreed on. Worst of all she voted for the war.

[vanessa04]

Nope, the fact that she clobbered him at this stage of the game doesn't matter - unless you want to win the general election in November.

Then it matters a gret deal.

[k6007]

What matters more is the number of WV voters who said they would back McCain over(drum beat please!)..­..........­......Hill­ary Clinton.

[JFaye]

Interesting enough, I'm told by a WV resident, West Virginians will vote for McCain over any minority (Including female) candidate this fall. In fact, Senator Clinton's support was more anti-minority man than we love Senator Clinton.

Are there any polls to support this premise?

[vanessa04]

"What matters more is the number of WV voters who said they would back McCain over(drum beat please!)..­..........­......Hill­ary Clinton."

And this matters because....?

Obama isn't going to bring in NV, WY, CO, or UT in the general.

WV voted for a candidate they'd already been told has lost. No point in voting for her. So they could have stayed home and not bothered. That they didn't - and moreover, 7% of them voted for a candidate who really ISN"T in the race over Obama - is significant.

Blow it off all you want. I'm already practicing saying, "President McCain". You should too.

[FunkyP]

It is amazing to me that such vitriol is exrended towards Hillary. You can vilify her all you want, but many millions of people support her just as rabidly as the Obamanics support him. I will vote for the Democrat, whoever it is, and so should you all.
Now let the process play out and save your hate for the Bush/McCain train. They are the enemy, not Hi8llary.

[fair1234]

EVERYBODY, I HAVE BEEN TO WEST VIERGINIA AND OBAMA IS LUCKY HE GOT 90000 VOTES BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID FOR HIS SAFETY IF HE SPENT TOO MUCH TIME THERE. That place is a time capsul from the 50's and black people hardly like to venture in that state because they are not friendly to blacks or hispanics! I am a witness that vote was for Hillary skin color matching theirs!

[LeftLeaner]

Just like Obama has captured OVER 90% of the black vote?

[GBecker]

and?

[GBecker]

Stop with the nonsensical cut and paste, trollie.

[dadumdee]

For your comparison to work, you would have to find a state that is the same percentage Black that W. Virginia is White.

[astein1]

Did anyone watch her speech last night?

Did you notice they found the one black guy in West Virginia to stand in the view of the camera?

[atowngirl]

So, true that was so funny I wonder was he smart enough to get a meal from the group who stuck his butt up there?

[afgail]

Hey, idiot that was her secret service detail. She entrusts her safety, indeed, her life with them. You Obamabots are so mean spirited and evil. You make me sick.

[Thevail]

Does anyone actually know WHO is asking Clinton to drop out? I mean, the media is saying that she already lost, but they're not calling for her to drop out. More ratings and primaries is better for them.

Obviously Obama supporters would like her to drop out, just as I think most Clinton supporters would like Obama to drop out. That's pretty normal in a primary, makes it easier for either candidate to move on to the GE.

I haven't heard very many of the DNC calling for her to drop out either.
Still, it seems that Clinton and her supporters feel like someone is trying toshove them aside and out of the race. But WHO are they talking about?

Is this just a manufactured thing for Clinton's campaign to "fight" against so that she'll get some sort of sympathy support?

[SensibleAmerican]

Democrats:

Are laughed at by the Republicans because they tend to choose the wussiest and most out-of-touch candidates for President again and again! Mondale, Dukakis, Carter, Gore, Kerry
For ONCE they chose a real “son-of-the-soil” Bill Clinton and he turned out to be the only Dem Prez. to serve 2 terms since FDR!
Democrats have been painted as “weak on defense” and they are proving it again by the far-left-loonies trying to hijack the Party and their subsequent support for Obama
Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot in 2000?!The Republicans would not have caved in like Gore did
Imagine a Bill Clinton being swift boated by the Republicans in 2004?! Would he have bent over like Kerry did?!
They love to stand around in a circle and shoot! Ted Kennedy was almost 800 delegates behind in 1980 and he took the fight all the way to the convention. Now the same “has been” wants Hillary to bow out!

[k6007]

And they LOST the GE.

[RobinL]

YAWN.....Another GOP-fueled faux "win" for Hillary. Sorry, Republicans, it's too late. You don't get to run our agenda. The Superdelegates aren't buying it and neither are we!

[afgail]

Yeah, all you Obama lemmings are headed for the sea. Go Luck! The Democrats just can't find their way to the White House, because they refuse to consult an electoral map. Call it hubris or stupidity but we seem to do it over and over again. Obama hasn't won in any of the states necessary for success in the fall. Hillary has. But pick Hillary? NOOOO, we'd rather be politically correct than victorious. Dumb, dumb, dumb!

[gladys46]

Gasoline is $3.75 a gallon ... WV lost an opportunity to vote for Real Change. But then a mind "is" a terrible to waste!

[ebanks84]

How is it possible that some people don't have "Reply" buttons? Is there something I don't know or what?

That means that anything they say cannot be contradicted. Do we have that option to disable our "Reply" buttons?

[CindyKay]

No we don't get an option. Huffy has been doing it for a few days now & I keep complaining. Sometimes they return the button & then take it away again. That Sucks !

[ebanks84]

That tells me that some people have priority on Huffington. That's disturbing because that are controlling who post what at that rate. That's not fair. But in this political race, nothing seems to be fair.

[gladys46]

It happens to me as well ... I'm at a loss???

Reply buttons please - moderators!

[jeffers1961]

Congratulations, Hillary, on your stunning victory in West Virginia yesterday! As a loyal supporter who worked hard to get out the vote for you in that state, I was thrilled to pieces when I woke up to the good news. You did even better than I'd hoped.

I know you'll do just as well in Kentucky, and I have high hopes for Puerto Rico. I deeply admire you for continuing your campaign, and the only hypocrisy I see is people telling you to quit, when they never said anything like that to Kennedy in 1980, when he trailed Carter by 700 delegates.

You're an inspiration to many. Thanks for everything you do.

[RedKnuckles]

You forgot to mention Oregon....oh wait, you probably saw the polls here....

[loudspeaker]

Good job!

It is truly fascinating to see all the media being so freaked out about Hillary's campaign. The enemy of this country is going totally nuts over Hillary's phenomenally outstanding West Virginia victory. They claim that it is best for the party if there is no fight, that she should drop out of the race because what she is doing is wrong, her constituency is stupid and should be ignored, blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, it is a good day for the country and a very, very bad day for the enemy of this nation. (And just to be totally clear: Obama and his supporters are NOT the enemy of this nation.)

[ebanks84]

The point here is when will America begin to accept another female candidate? I have no idea because Hillary has laid a path so destructive and hateful that she has made it almost impossible for another female to attempt to run after what she has done.

And look at what kind of an example she is displaying to our youth. Claw, scratch, cry, scream, lie, cheat, yell, shrill, demand, steal, murder, brainwash, and everything else that she represents is truly appalling to say the least. Would you want your daughter trying for any position acting like Hillary? God forbid. It's a "no wonder" our young ladies are so aggressive today. Look at what they are seeing played out in this election alone.

She is the worse example of a human being ever displayed. Men do their bickering and shady dealings behind the scenes, not in public view. That's the difference between them and Hillary. She wants the world to see her rage, indignation, and sorrowful way of being a loser. I hate it for our girls and for the world to see what we have to put up with in America.

I wonder if we'll ever get our first class standing back as a leading power. With Hillary, I doubt it very much. We will have more people hating us than we have now. God forbid!

[gladys46]

Yeah, I think he does!! Anyway, a Jackie O. Hillary is not ... classless ...

Exactly what did Hillary's pastor impart to her anyway??? Geez, Obama's tenure at Rev. Wright's church seem to have not been damaging to him at all ... he is the personification of grace under fire and all that is sooo good in any human! Hillary, this person needs re-construction and rehabilitation!

[ebanks84]

Read it for yourself, please!

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.html

It tells me that Hillary believes in a "totalitarian" type of government like fascism and God has nothing to do with it. But it's her religion. The only one she has.

[ebanks84]

BTW, I wish Hillary had been a Jackie O. type of lady. She would have been nominated by now! What a shame we ended up with a "jackass" instead.

[siri2k]

This is an excellent post making an excellent point!
What's amazing is her false screaming that she's doing it allllll for "them", i.e. her voters. She won't turn her back on them..... What a shameless outright deception. Anyone who knows anything about her and hubby, knows that she's in this for Hillary, and for no other reason, no other people, no other purpose or goal. It's allll about her and that ol' spotlight and the power, and always has been.
What's MORE amazing is that some people actually BELIEVE HER!!! I feel sorry for them. They are openly and most obviously being duped by a megalomaniacal power hungry shrew. THEY would be the ones hurt the most from their delusions when the US would enter another era of corruption, this one peppered with stark vanity. Fortunately, that's not going to be the case. But I'm pretty sure those supporters will never know that they were saved from what they voted for by the rest of the (educated) masses.

[gladys46]

The question these pundits ought to be asking in fairness (if there is such a thingie) why can't Hillary get the african american vote! That onas is on Hillary not Obama! We all should know why Obama did not get WV ... they stated it clearly "race matters" 81% of them!

I was oooh so ready for a female US president ... at this point, I have never been so ashamed of any woman as I am of Hillary Rodham Clinton! She appears to the the mere appendage of William Jefferson Clinton - she merely dangles from his coat tail!

[BigBen]

I know it is a small state but can you mention a big state that Obama won?

[ebanks84]

Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, and Virginia off the top of my head. He will also win New York and California in November because he only lost by a hair in both places.

[gladys46]

That is precisely how smarty Hillary mis-calculated!! Those so-called "big" states that she "won" Obama took away just as many delegates as she did!! You just don't get it!

[pamelagoodenough]

And Obama would win California too, now that folks here know about him. Everyone I know here understands that now, but many had not even heard of Obama way back in February. Clinton is an all too familiar face and we have seen her hanging around DC for 30 years--in fact for 30 years she has been planning to become the first woman president. That is why it is impossible for her to quit. She will have to be removed by the delegates!

Americans have had little hope for 8 years. Clinton represents the same old corrupt Washington and McBomb is Bush's twin. Now that people are getting to know Obama they have hope--in California, Virginia, Texas, Oregon, North Carolina, almost Indiana, Georgia, and he will win all the states in the general election that Clinton won in the primary.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned--or something like that.

"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."
Conreave, The Mourning Bride, 1697

[queotic]

Why are you falling for this "only the big states matter" baloney anyway? Who cares how big or small a state if it one candidate is clearly leading in pledged delegates?

[ebanks84]

She sure as hell won't get it now the way she seems to only care about the white votes. She has lost the black votes forever and it was her choice, not theirs.

[pleeezzze]

Race may have been a factor ,I don't know, but what did matter to more than 50% of the voters there was ,they believe Obama has the same beliefs as Rev Wright. I also believe that , or he could not possibly have been that close to him and admired him so much as to write about his influence on him.
You can always Say it's not true , but it will not necessarily be so .

[ebanks84]

If Rev. Wright means so much to people, what does Hagee and all the other White pastors who spew hate mean to White people? NOTHING IT SEEMS. That is so blatantly one-sided I don't know what else you can call it.

[k6007]

'You can always say it's not true, but it will not necessarily be so'.
That statement works both ways.

Rev. Wright has taken not on scrap of bread off my table. The Clintons, however, can't make that claim. The Repugs thrive on the Politics of Distraction. "Consentrate on things that have nothing at all to do with your life, in order to hide their own PERSONAL agenda.

Not this time!!

[MrKINOKO]

Would you please clarify what beliefs those are? A belief in God? A belief that the U.S. caused others to be so mad at us due to hegemony and jingoism that they knocked down some of our buildings?
Could you please STFU about this Rev. Wright non-issue already? My gas tank is empty. I'm worried about being recalled back into the Army in some kind of GOP "Stop-Loss" initiative. My mortgage went up, and my property taxes doubled. Could you please address some issues, Hillary/McCain ticket supporters? just for once? thanks to the endless 30 second sound bytes on FAUX NEWS, I'm Rev. Wright's newest, biggest fan. Now what? Did my saying that just pay my mortgage? Fill my gas tank? Please..STFU .

[gladys46]

Convienent hypocrisy - you may be a redneck!

Did the entire catholic membership walk out from that diocese enmasse when it was proven that priest were and had been for eons molesting little boys and girls ... that the "leaders" of that diocese had merely rehoused, transferred, relocated and protected those same pedophiles aaah, with pay and/or amenities!!

I think not! In fact, those parisheners yet place $$$ in little brown envelopes and in offering pans - most of which goes to pay the class action legtigants millions of $$$$ for the lifelong horrific effects.

[ebanks84]

You are such a bigot. I don't hear you saying anything about Hagee saying the hurricane that hit New Orleans was God punishing them for their "gay" views or lifestyles. That's much worse than anything pastor Wright said.