Does Obama Even Need The Jewish Vote?

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First Posted: 05-14-08 12:21 PM   |   Updated: 05-22-08 05:12 AM

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Over the past few days and weeks, much ink has been devoted to Barack Obama's potentially tricky relationship with the Jewish community.

Had his relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his former pastor and sympathetic voice on Palestine, caused harm? Would his pledge to meet without preconditions with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad turn off the pro-Israel crowd? Did the developed tensions between the Jewish and Black communities present a gap too wide to bridge?

Certainly the topic has been on Obama's mind, as during the course of this past week he has given several interviews to prominent Jewish journalists on the very subject.

But lost in the process is, perhaps, a broader question: Does the Jewish vote really matter all that much for the Illinois Democrat? The topic, perhaps surprisingly, carries no clear consensus among some academics and analysts.

There is wide agreement on three reasons why the Jewish vote matters. Despite lacking overall numbers, Jews participate in the political process in large percentages, representing some of the more high-profile activists. They also have, historically, been major fundraisers for both political parties. And they tend to reside -- for one reason or another -- in some of the country's most significant "swing states."

For Obama, two of those three may not be major political concerns. The senator's ability to drum up grassroots support provides him with a robust activist base, somewhat but not entirely irrespective of opinion makers. And his fundraising apparatus, which relies on more than 1.5 million donors -- many of them of the low-dollar variety -- means he doesn't have to lean on major financiers. As one prominent Jewish Democratic fundraiser told The Huffington Post, "Obama doesn't need me and that isn't necessarily a bad thing." Indeed, Obama's success in bringing in campaign cash, longtime political observers say, has fundamentally altered the relationship between candidate and constituency group.

"If you are raising $40 million and month, month after month, only some of it is coming from Jewish community," said Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the Rothenberg Political Report. "It does dilute the importance of one group of contributors. Hollywood is, in this regard, also less important... organized labor may be less important as well."

It is in the numbers and blocs of Jewish voters (not money and activism) where Obama, theoretically, has the most to lose or gain. According the 2007 American Jewish Community Yearbook, there are approximately 6.4 million Jews in the United States, roughly two percent of the country's population. And yet Jews are more-highly concentrated in important political locales such as Florida, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.

"The Jewish vote is most important as a vote," explained Mark Mellman, president of The Mellman Group, one of the nation's leading public opinion researchers. "And the truth is that in some of these swing states the difference between getting 55 and 65 percent of their votes can be the difference between winning a losing."

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This synopsis is technically true. However, as other analysts note, the presidential race would ultimately have to be historically close for the Jewish vote to be numerically decisive. There are, for instance, approximately 145,000 Jews in Ohio. If 80 percent were eligible to vote and 80 percent of those eligible actually did go to the polls (both high estimates) that would mean that that roughly 93,000 votes were up for grabs in that state. If Obama won 74 percent of that vote -- the same percentage that John Kerry carried nationally in 2004 -- he would have approximately 68,000 Ohio Jewish votes. If he only received 61 percent of the vote -- which he is receiving in the most recent Gallup Poll -- that number drops to 56,700, a difference of 11,300 votes. In Ohio, such a loss could make a difference. But the state was decided by more than ten times that margin in 2004.

Jews do make up larger shares of the population in both Pennsylvania and Florida. However, in some of the "new" swing states -- Colorado, New Mexico, and Iowa, for example -- the Jewish population is only (roughly) 80,000, 11,000 and 6,000 respectively.

"While a relatively moderate Republican candidate with rock-solid Israel-supporter credentials like John McCain may well reach or even surpass the Jewish-vote record for a GOP presidential contender - especially if his opponent is Barack Obama - a few extra Jewish votes in states already pretty much guaranteed as either Democratic or Republican aren't going to make that much of a difference," The Jerusalem Post's Caley Ben-David opined this past week.

Population totals asides, Jews do, according to statistics, tend to be a much more reliable constituency than say, the young. In terms of a base, it is a solid one to have. More significant, perhaps, is that the group's issues are shared by others -- meaning appeals to Jewish voters brings support from more than just Jews.

"Remember that unlike primary season, when it comes to the real thing, it is winner take all format," said Jonathan Sarna, a professor of American Jewish History at Brandeis University. "And that means that every vote will be extremely important. And I don't think Obama wants to take any chances in a critical state. Moreover, there are others who clearly care about some of the same issues that lots of Jews care about, notably Israel."

As Sarna notes, Obama stands to gain the backing of some evangelicals and a firmer base among Democrats by demonstrating support for the state of Israel. Such a stance, moreover, brings with it an image benefit, mainly, the perception of strength within foreign policy circles. But perhaps the most compelling reason for Obama to pursue the Jewish vote is to counteract the inroads that his Republican opponents are trying to make. Indeed, as recent history shows and Democrats concede, a political turf war over the Jewish community is already on hand.

"I've always said that one of the things the Republicans were trying to do under Rove and [Tom] DeLay, and I never underestimated them, was to use Israel to turn the Jewish community against the Democratic Party. That means stopping money to Jewish Democrats but more importantly it means affecting opinion makers," said Ira Forman, head of the National Jewish Democratic Council. "This year there are some real numbers here. I think the McCain's folks are looking at these numbers and they are figuring out a micro-strategy - they are doing this with African Americans and other groups as well with the Jews. If they can drive the Jewish vote down 20 percent in these states it could make a difference. I don't know how good the McCain people are but the Rove and his minions e were doing this on every constituency out there."

Over the past few days and weeks, much ink has been devoted to Barack Obama's potentially tricky relationship with the Jewish community. Had his relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his former pas...
Over the past few days and weeks, much ink has been devoted to Barack Obama's potentially tricky relationship with the Jewish community. Had his relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright, his former pas...
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Odd that another focus on what Obama is missing isn't understood by the Obama fans as a vulnerability. He's lost the vote of Hillary supporters because of the sexist nature of his campaign (Elizabeth Edwards can't even bring herself to back him).This guy has no foreign policy experience at all. Why discuss his possible impact on Israel? It's becoming more and more clear that Obama doesn't have the life experience (much like Dubya) or the understanding of how he comes across - 'Kumbaya' worked for the YouTube crowd, but 'sweetie' and Rev Wright are tangible examples of who the man really is - someone who has been sheltered from reality by guilty white elites. His campaign has centered on sexist rhetoric and that's worked well for him, but it's a new ball game and the misogyny is no longer a viable weapon.Sadly, McCain is going to use Barack's hubris against him and it's already started. Hillary's romp in W.VA was a real indication of his lack of appeal in the real world. Rather than focus on 6% of the population, let's have an article on the impact of people who won't vote for him because of his race and/or left wing credentials.Could his recent defeat have made an impression? Now that he's sunk to the 'I'm a god guy and the pulpit and the cross means I'm your friend' on fliers he's sending out in Kentucky. Forget the 'bitter' remark. 'Ignore the man behind the curtain'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 05/17/2008
- beb I'm a Fan of beb permalink

If the Jews vote or don't vote for Obama it isn't going to make a difference. But they have to understand that it is time for Palestine to be treated properly and Israel is going to have to make some big changes. This is an election about change and that includes a new Palestine.

If the Jews don't like that then they are just going to have to figure out how to get along.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/16/2008
- MaeScott I'm a Fan of MaeScott 15 fans permalink
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Obama needs the jewish vote, the catholic vote, the methodist vote, the episcopalian vote, the quaker vote, the holy roller vote, the foot washers vote, the tongue-talkers vote, the snake handlers vote, the buddhist vote, the wiccan vote, the AME and COGIC vote, the seven day adventist vote, the latter day saints vote, the atheist and agnostic vote..and those I left out...It's a BIG TENT, baby! All votes are needed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 05/15/2008

Why is the media playing every PC card in the deck? Why choose the Jewish Vote? Why include/exclude some groups at all? Can't we all be listed as Americans? Well.....except for the illegals, of course.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 05/15/2008

I agree with this comment above. Why do people keep talking about "black vote" "jewish vote" "poor vote" " rich vote"? Do you really believe Americans only vote according to their race or religion? I don't!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 05/15/2008

The Palestinians/Arabs lost. The Arabs have to accept that fact and move on. The sooner everybody recognises that Israel is here to stay, the better the prospects for peace. Yes, it is a fact that Jews have a strong lobby in the US which protects Israel's interests. Just like there is a Palestine-Arab-Muslim lobby. Obama has been mouthing a lot of pro-Israeli statements recently only because it is a given fact of life that the Jewish lobby in the US are powerfull politically. But his statements are just a case of political expediency. A truer picture of Obama's standing on the Israeli issue can be drawn by looking at his past-and that picture is clearly pro-Palestine. Nobody can legislate Israel away in the current political climate and structure in the US today-but what if the political climate changes? And you have some one in the White house who is not favourable to Israel? Jews should ask themselves this question? Its safe for American Jews in the US. The last time Jews stood idly by and looked the other way, 6 million Jews perished. What the Palestinians-Arabs were not able to do by war, they wish to achieve their aims by pulling at the heart strings and manipulating the western world. Why does the US support Israel? We could beat around the bush and deny it for all we want, but the reality is that the West has a Judeo-Christian heritage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 05/15/2008
- betz55 I'm a Fan of betz55 39 fans permalink

If Mr Obama is really interested in "change" we can believe in then he needs to "change" the same old rhetoric, and dogmatic, unquestioned, unconditional support of Israel. Level the playing field and be an honest broker of the "change" he is espousing. It is a damn shame that American politicians are selected, not on their commitment to the best interests of America, but by vowing to put the interests of a foreign nation, Israel, first. The oath of allegiance that I said everyday in school was not to Israel, or any country but America. A true friend of Israel would tell the Israelis they need to end the occupation of the West Bank, stop repressing the legitimate national aspirations of the Palestinians, and stop warmongering on Israels behalf with Iran.The time has come for the US to stop pandering to Israel and it's destructive, warmongering policies. Cut monetary aid, demand peace, fair settlement with the Palestinians and extract the US from Israel's damaging, harmful, and negative, warmongering policies. But it sounds like AIPAC, ADL, and the rest of that ilk are doing their best to bias Obama to be an Israel firster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 AM on 05/15/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 193 fans permalink

A glance at opinion polls would suggest that as a group Jewish voters tend to be very liberal.

On the issue of Israel, while AIPAC gets a lot of media attention, it does not necessarily reflect the views of the majority of American Jewery on Israel or on the war in Iraq.

Jews are not a monlithic group any more than any other group.

In support I could cite a recent poll which showed that 64% of Israelis wanted their government to negotiate with Hamas.

But instead I will point out that after centuries of vicious persecution, an attempt at complete genocide, and living in repeated 911 conditions, there are many Jews in Israel who favor justice for the Palestinians and take quite liberal positions.

Frankly, I'm not so sure Americans would react the same way.;

Gives real insight into the phrase "A light to the nations".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 AM on 05/15/2008
- WongChin I'm a Fan of WongChin 2 fans permalink

Well said--the kind of nuance that is sorely lacking in many a discussion about Isreal.

That said, I would like Obama to carry the American Jewish vote by a large margin. I also think it is possible for the US to be fair to all sides of the Middle East equation (palestinians and all) and still stand strongly its commitment to the security of the state of Isreal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 05/15/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 193 fans permalink

Facts often have the inconvenient habit of flying in the face of our ideologies or the accepted wisdom

Best to base one's theories on reality, rather than try to force reality to agree with one's theories

As to being fair, sometimes being overly partial to one side really does not help them in the long run..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 05/15/2008

He has every kind of problem in the world if you're anti-Obama. Get over it. This is just the beginning of the shit storm coming at him. They just want to see what sticks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 05/15/2008

Obama has 94% of the African american vote,that more than makes up for losing the jews. Whites are wisely backing a winner. This game is over, now we can be proud we have won!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 05/15/2008
- paganmist I'm a Fan of paganmist 67 fans permalink

OH MY GOD.

Would you STOP it?

The Jews aren't deserting Obama.

Stop making one race more important than the other. PLEASE stop emphasizing the black vote, because everyone's trying to make this a black vs. white thing, when it should be Democrat vs. Republican.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 05/15/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 193 fans permalink

Unless I've missed something the election is next November.

"Dewey Defeats Truman" may be a cautionary tale.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 05/15/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

Obamas problem and why I think he would make a very good leader even though I'm sure its something he struggles with and gets attack for is that he tries to be FAIR. You cant be 100% for a group I think to ask that of anyone is unrealistic. Obama takes each situation as it comes just because he sees Arab/Israeli conflict he doesnt automatically means that he thinks Israel is right. He looks at each situation and he deals in evidence and information thats one of the things i love about him. He is not slave to ideology like our current president. He doesnt see the world in black and white. Thats why he can praise Reagan for something and then turn around and Criticize Bill Clinton who is a member of his own party. He can complement the first Bush for handling the gulf war even though he is a republican and He funamentally disagree with his domestic policy. I think thats an amazing way to see the world he doesnt throw away the baby with the bathwater and because he doesnt demonize people he disagree with. You can be strongly supportive the state of israel see them as our strongest ally but NOT agree with everything they do. In order for you to try and have some kind of resolution to the Arab/Israeli situation its vital that you have that kind of world view.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 05/15/2008
- meileen I'm a Fan of meileen 9 fans permalink

Wow. How many other groups is Obama going to "not need" during his unifying campaign?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 05/15/2008
- paganmist I'm a Fan of paganmist 67 fans permalink

Neither he nor his campaign has ever said that they did not need any groups. NEVER.

He may discount certain states, but that is what a Presidential candidate is *supposed* to do, it is called a strategy, and even Hillary has done it (poorly, unfortunately).

But the only people who have placed import on one group over another has been Hillary. Obama can not help the groups that favor him strongly, but he accepts anyone and everyone, and he tries to reach out to everyone. No one can deny that he hasn't tried to reach even the "blue collar white voters" that don't like him. He made himself look like a fool while trying to bowl, but I have yet to see Hillary try to shoot hoops with the black constituency.

(Note the incredible double-standard here; blacks were supposed to cling to Hillary out of loyalty even though she called the white votes "more important" and made little effort to reach out to them during primaries. But to vote for Obama makes them racist and ungrateful.)

Anyhow.... please do not attribute articles like these to somehow being Barack Obama's feelings. These things are what the MEDIA are throwing out there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 05/15/2008
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The answer is: YES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 05/14/2008
- LeoMarvin I'm a Fan of LeoMarvin 35 fans permalink
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Any Jew who would be bothered by the fact that Obama will support both Israel's security and the right of Palestinians to dignity and self-determination is already a Republican. I'm very pro-Israel, but I also want our President to be bothered by the plight of Palestinians. There's no contradiction there, and most Jews know that. Obama is a smart, good man, and all I (and most of my Jewish family and friends) want is for him to do his best to sort out a miserable, complicated problem that's festered way too long. What that will mean specifically, who knows? That's why you want a smart, decent person applying his intelligence to finding answers that have eluded others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 05/14/2008

Agreed! And yes, I'm Jewish and my whole family (and most of my synagogue for that matter) is pro-Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 05/15/2008

Here here from another Jew, and another cat lady one at that :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 05/15/2008
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Obama will be good for the world. Already people in Nigeria have offered to lay down their arms if Obama becomes president. He really is an amazing man. He has lived with all types of people in all kinds of difficult situations at home and abroad and he has learned from this how to deal with people better than any presidential candidate put to the American people including Lincoln. He is about what all of
America is because he has seen the world from both sides of the fence. What most people hear in what he says is that fairness and justice are paramount. He thinks deeply about finding win-win solutions to problems and finding votes that each party can understand. Having said all of this, what I fear most is that there are many Jews who are too comfortable with the status quo when most people see the situation as it stands as untenable. This is true with much of our country, as well, as we saw in WV. It will take a lot of work of both the Jews and the Palestinians to put down their arms, to begin to talk in ways towards progress, to abandon hatreds, to forgive crimes, and learn to open their hearts with empathy for the other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 05/14/2008
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 199 fans permalink
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Bottom line is, Obama's going to need evey vote he can get if he wins the dem nod.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 05/14/2008
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