Oil sets record near $128; pump price at high, too

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ADAM SCHRECK | May 16, 2008 08:24 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — News that Saudi Arabia had boosted its oil output by 300,000 barrels a day was greeted as a non-event on oil markets _ the move wasn't anywhere near the kind of production increase needed to bring prices down on Friday.

And traders were equally unimpressed by the U.S. government's plan to stop adding to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

One day, two moves designed to allay concerns about an overheated oil market that's squeezing motorists and inflating the prices of all sorts of goods.

The response in the oil trading pits? Traders did what they've been doing for months now, and pushed crude oil and gasoline futures to new highs.

"All in all, we're seeing another strong move here on little fundamental news," said Jim Ritterbusch, president of Ritterbusch & Associates, an oil trading advisory firm in Galena, Ill.

The reason for the disconnect has little to do with political decisions in Washington or Riyadh, and everything to do with market expectations. The Saudi production increase was seen in the market as minuscule, and no one expected the suspension of shipments to the U.S. government's Strategic Petroleum Reserve to have much impact on supplies.

Even more important, the traders placing the bets expect prices to just keep moving higher.

Goldman Sachs, one of the world's most influential investment banks, underscored that sentiment Friday when it hiked its oil price forecast for the second half of the year to $141 a barrel, up from $107 previously. Analysts at the bank argue that the oil market is undergoing a "structural repricing" that will continue to play out for some time to come.

"We would view any pullback in oil, regardless of the size or duration _ although a correction could be as large as 15 percent _ as an opportunity to re-establish long positions in oil before the summer," Goldman Sachs advised traders.

Translation: Buy when barrels go on sale, because prices are bound to keep heading higher.

And buy they did Friday. The price for a barrel of benchmark light, sweet crude for June delivery jumped $2.17 to settle at record close of $126.29 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Earlier in the session, prices surged to $127.82 a barrel, also a new high.

It was the eighth time in the past 10 sessions traders rewrote the record books, and the first time prices topped $127 a barrel.

Investors shrugged off the news from Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi that the world's largest oil producer had decided to increase production last week. The market also had little reaction to the Energy Department's announcement said it would cancel shipments into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve for six months beginning July 1.

"It's ridiculous because I don't think this is going to bring the price down," said Phil Flynn, an analyst at Alaron Trading Corp., of the Energy Department's move.

The effect of Saudi Arabia's decision was also not clear. The increase, which went into effect last Saturday, is relatively small, lifting total output from the world's leading producer to 9.45 million barrels per day by June.

The addition of "300,000 barrels won't make a lot of difference," said Mir Yousufuddin, who monitors crude prices for the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

The announcement came during a visit by Bush, who was in the kingdom to appeal for a more significant increase in production. Bernard Picchi, an energy analyst at research firm Wall Street Access, called the increase "a token amount" and said the effect on prices would have been different if Saudi Arabia had boosted production by 1 million or 1.5 million barrels a day.

Saudi Arabia often adjusts its output to meet demand, and the increase coincides with the start of the peak driving season in the U.S. The Middle Eastern nation has in the past acknowledged the ability to produce as much as 11 million barrels a day.

James Cordier, president of Liberty Trading Group in Tampa, Fla., agreed that the moves by both the U.S. and Saudi Arabia were "insignificant" and would do little to dent the rally in oil prices. Like a number of other analysts, he believes prices are rising not because of a speculative bubble, but simply reflect finite supply and soaring global demand.

Crude's latest surge comes a week before the Memorial Day holiday, the traditional start of the summer driving season, suggesting that retail gas prices still have further to rise. Motorists are now paying a national average of $3.787 a gallon for regular gasoline, up nearly a penny from the previous day, according to AAA and the Oil Price Information Service.

Diesel prices also have risen to record levels, meaning that even Americans who don't drive will likely face even higher prices on all sorts of goods because of increased shipping costs. A gallon of diesel now sells for $4.482 a gallon.

Oil prices could rise even higher as U.S. demand picks up during the summer months, when gasoline consumption is typically the heaviest. Traders are clearly betting gasoline prices have a way to go too: Gasoline futures jumped to a record $3.2438 a gallon on the Nymex before easing slightly to settle at $3.2235, up 5.777 cents.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil futures rose 8.04 cents to settle at $3.7028 a gallon. Natural gas futures fell 30.5 cents to settle at $11.094 per 1,000 cubic feet.

In London, July Brent crude surged $2.36 to settle at $124.99 a barrel on the ICE Futures exchange.

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Associated Press Writers H. Josef Hebert in Washington and Jennifer Loven in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, contributed to this report.

 
 

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Anyone else remember just last year all the big SUV drivers whining about all us hybrid and fuel efficiency car drivers only going the speed limit and it was pissin them off? Going on about how they would rather die than give up their SUV and gas would never be to expensive, and they want to get to where they want in a hurry, so hybrids should be removed from the roads... Well, I hope all the hybrid drivers and fuel efficient auto drivers in the US honk and wave at the SUVs are they pass them at the gas station or standing on the side of the road waiting for onstar to send a can of gas.
I also like how you are now seeing all those SUVs trying to be sold for 1/3 of what they were asking just last year. Wonder how the big SUV owners feel now that they get 12 mpg, and it cost more in gas each month than what they could sell their bling bling big bad SUV for today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 05/19/2008

What was it, about 18 months ago when one lonely trading company futures buyer predicted $100 oil, and he was laughed out of the business. Now we are seeing just how stupid those who laughed , really are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 05/19/2008

Hey - they were predicting $4 per gallon gas by the end of summer. Who said the Bush administration couldn't do anything right - they are ahead of schedule. Anyone want to predict $5 by July?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 05/17/2008

"$4 Oil? Thats funny, I hadn't heard that..."

- You know who.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 05/17/2008

Except that this prediction was made in 1956 by Mr. Hubbert. He called it "peak oil".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 05/17/2008

Odd, no mention of the fact that the price of rice has been dropping, after the bogus stories of world wide food shortages a couple of weeks ago...

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/natural_resources/article3943779.ece

Funny that HuffPo adds to the manufactured panic, but doesn't report the other side of the story. It's almost as if they were a part of the problem themselves.

Hmmm...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 05/17/2008

CaptainHowdy,
You missed the point that rising food prices and shortages are caused by commodity speculators and agro-business monopolies. Add to that World bank policies that have nearly wiped out food production in places such as Haiti which used to be much more self-sufficient. Your apparent smug denial of rising world hunger and famine is, to say the least, deplorable.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8929

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 05/17/2008

You seem to be mistaking whining for a panic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 05/17/2008

This is ALL inflation. Ron Paul warned about this and I always warn about this. We are all in trouble. BUY GOLD AND SILVER. Oil STOCKS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 05/17/2008

Vote Ron Paul!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 05/17/2008

In engineering terms: Positive Feedback Amplification

60% of increasing oil price is due to speculators. Increasing oil means higher trucker fuel. All products in stores are trucked in, meaning inflation in price of all goods. Consumers feel pinch, and cut back on spending, except for food and gas. Decreased consumer spending results in bankruptcies of businesses. Recession means investors invest in the only thing that is going up dramatically....commodities such as oil.....

This, then, begins the cycle all over, resulting in higher costs for oil and all products.

This "positive feedback amplification" will soon result in skyrocketing oil, and skyrocketing costs of all products....and eventually panicky investors will bid oil so high that consumers will be unable to buy food, or anything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 AM on 05/17/2008

"I am an engineer myself....by I didn't make those calculations, myself."

So how do you know they are correct? What did you do to check?

"i Ieave that to investment professionals. ... Don't ask me how they got that estimate."

If you don't know how they got it, why do you believe them? And why do you put your own credibility on the line by quoting such nonsense?

"Do you really think that oil is going up every single day, due to increased global consumption? Every single day?"

Oil price is set by an auction process. The highest bidder drives the price. The EU consumes 15 million barrels a day. Europeans are paying $8-10/gallon, which indicates to the market that they are willing to pay >$200/barrel for oil. China needs that oil or they can't grow. They will pay whatever they have to to get it. THAT is what is driving prices up. It's economics 101.

"Should we really leave it to the markets.....so that every bozo, who owns a computer, and can invest in an ETF commodities fund....can destroy our economy, by bidding up the cost of oil?"

You own a computer but you can't drive up the price of oil by speculation... you lack the money to bid into a $3trillion market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 05/18/2008

>So, markm8128, how did you measure those 60% market manipulation?

I am an engineer myself....by I didn't make those calculations, myself. i Ieave that to investment professionals. That was a quote from a video...about 1 week ago..by a renowned expert in the oil markets...on the Street.com.

Don't ask me how they got that estimate.

But think about it. Do you really think that oil is going up every single day, due to increased global consumption? Every single day?

Do you think shut downs in production, in various places around the globe, is causing the price to go up every single day?

Sure, the rising global demand makes oil an attractuive investment.....but it is investors watching the price go up, who are bidding it up even further. Thats the reason it is going up every single day!

Should we really leave it to the markets.....so that every bozo, who owns a computer, and can invest in an ETF commodities fund....can destroy our economy, by bidding up the cost of oil?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 05/17/2008

"60% of increasing oil price is due to speculators"

As an engineer you need to do better than to tell me "x is 60%". You need to prove to me how you measured or calculated that number. I am an engineer myself and if you give me such an estimate in my design review meeting without showing the evidence, you will face a truly uncomfortable Q&A as a result.

So, markm8128, how did you measure those 60% market manipulation? What did you use as your data set and what kind of analysis did you apply? Did you calibrate your analysis on historical data? What kind of error bars do you attach to your estimate? Is it 60%+-1% or is it 60%+-300%?

I am looking forward to your answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 05/17/2008

Relax, America's oil and gas industry says we have enough right here run 60 million cars for 60 years. Of course, we actually have 300 million cars, so in 12 years we're SOL.

Personally, I'm getting an electric car, and putting solar panels on the roof.

Screw OPEC, So long Exxon!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/16/2008

Uuuuuhhhhh, scary! Be careful, they will accuse you of spreading false information so that oil companies (which know where the giant fields are!) can play the consumer!

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 05/16/2008

Yep, Peak Oil ... and our leaders have their collective heads buried in the sand.

If we moved now, in a major way, we could mitigate the effects.

Instead we will face this crisis with finger pointing and ultimately face a disaster that will make the Great Depression look like a walk in the park.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 05/16/2008

If you could get a private chat with politicians, you would learn that many of them understand peak oil quite well. They are just afraid of their voters who do not. You can't tell drunk people that the party is over if there is still booze on the table.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 05/16/2008

I think Senator Obama summed it up in a very catchy phrase:

"We will tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear!"

That's all this is about. Peak oil loses a lot of its edge when you first heard about it in school when you were sixteen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 05/16/2008

Well the booze is going to cost more and more ... They'll have to explain that. No war or invasion will create more oil ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 05/16/2008

Peak oil means oil is starting to run out.
Better get another source of energy - fast - or we'll be at war for a long time in the middle east - with China.
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3726#more

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 05/16/2008

joebaggadonuts posted: "And the Saudi's said no, George, not until you actually attack Iran. Then we'll pump more oil (which we don't have)."

First realize that most of the world's oil reserves belong to governments that are reluctant to allow the due process which private enterprise is subject to.

Then realize that we really do not have a clear and accurate idea of just how much oil there really is. In fact we do not even have accurate figures on how much oil is actually being pumped. These figures are estimates based upon how much oil is shipped or sold and are limited by deals between nations where little to no reporting occurs.

So we trust the Saudis are telling us the truth when they say that they are capable of pumping 11 million barrels a day, up from 9.44 today.

Many experts are suspicious that the Saudis are NOT capable of increasing the flow, and in fact, because of poor oil-field practices, their fields are actually in decline. The complaint is that the new oil the Saudis are putting on the market is NOT sweet crude, but ugly black low quality oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 05/16/2008

KillTheMessanger. Posted: "Now please cross post the same thing in Chinese so that millions of freshly minted middle-class Chinese can stop using oil, too."

Good point. American consumption has dropped while Chinese is up 14%. By next year they are expected to exceed our demand. Also, we have had a record year of poor quality goods and recalls of goods from China; it is time to boycott cheap goods for the sake of consumerism.

I mean it is time realize that excessive consumerism is the base cause of most of the issues facing us in the 21'st century: Energy Scarcity, Climate Change, Excessive Debt, Poisoned Environments (e.g: all water tests in the USA show contamination with industrial pollutants such as gasoline additives). The age of CONSERVATION is upon us: consumerism must be curtailed either by management or by cruel unthinking market forces.

STOP BUYING CHEAP CHINESE GOODS. Boycott junk stores like Walmart and Home Depot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 05/16/2008

only the chinese pay $1.48 a gallon....I wonder if US consumers are funding china's growth and cheaper energy costs like US consumers pay so much more for prescription drugs than other countries who buy the same drugs from the same manufacturers.

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/price.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 05/18/2008

China's energy costs are by no counts cheaper. They might be subsidized. That does not make them cheaper. It simply means that the Chinese consumer is paying part of the cost directly and part through taxes. We subsidize (among other things) corn, which leads to an oversupply of high-fructose corn syrup and corn-fed beef. Both products lead to endemic obesity and diabetes in the US population. The Chinese bet the house on almost non-existent environmental standards, coal fired power plants and they are dying of lung disease and cancer.

I leave it to you to decide which country is "smarter".

There are easy ways to equalize the US-China trade deficit: duties and taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 AM on 05/19/2008

So it is agreed then: we need to reduce excessive consumption at the same time as reduce Chinese imports. We also need to encourage lower Chinese energy consumption of carbon fuels.

Import duties then all around! And a consumption tax with the proceeds to fund alternative energy startups and research.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 AM on 05/21/2008

Why do I get the feeling that this post seems like cheerleading? Someone seems to want the price to go up every day, just so they can ride the story.... it's a meme: oil hits another high! Yippee, I can continue to have the story write itself and all I have to do is cheer it on!!
Journalism is dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 05/16/2008

There is no other story here to be had. You and millions of Americans don't want to hear the real story which is called Peak-Oil. It's a real thriller and keeps getting better by the day. We are seeing history playing out in front of our very eyes! Well, those of us who dare to watch, anyway.

What is a journalist to do? You don't want to listen to the truth and the truth is complicated. It amuses the more intelligent folks but not so much the ones that failed in math and science in school. So the journalists will not write about the story that would only reach the brains of a tiny minority of readers but they write what everybody else "thinks" the story is. You simply get what you ask for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 05/16/2008

The real story here is prick oil, because opec is a bunch of pricks.............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/16/2008

YOU ARE FULL OF CRAP. This isn't a trading issue, but a supply and demand issue, you keep preaching; so explain away this jump in price today...since this morning the big news was $127/bbl.

You're being PLAYED, and you don't have enough common sense to realize it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 05/16/2008

Oil prices: Wall Street's game
Big fund money is flowing into oil markets sending prices to levels never seen before. Is it profiteering or an essential way to ensure supply?

http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/16/news/economy/oil_speculator/index.htm?postversion=2008051615

Oh, I forgot! CNN is a Communist news source!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 05/17/2008

I disagree. The Saudis are right....there is no shortage of oil on the market. The problem is speculators are bidding up the price higher and higher. It is a self-reinforcing phenomenon.

Do you really think the new discovery of oil in Brazil is going to bring down the price of oil?

Of course not! it is not the supply that is causing the price...but market speculators. And that is going to keep going up...until it drives the cost of all of our trucked-in merchandise through the roof.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 05/17/2008

Call me the day world oil consumption will greatly exceed 85million barrels a day. Call me when the average American will stop buying gas because it has exceeded $8/gallon.

It is a supply/demand issue. Supplies are falling and demand is going strong at any price.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 05/16/2008

Me-thinks reality is starting to annoy American Dreamers.

Come to grips folks: The American Dream is firmly grasped within the talons of the dual-headed Wendigo of Energy Scarcity and Climate Change. She flys off to her nest high up in the crags where her eaglet hungrily awaits.

Wait

Wait....................Cheney has firmly established the American brand with the Wendigo; and who does the dual headed eagle represent? Is it possible that this nation will arise while ours falls? Spread out the chicken-entrails and read the signs, oh shaman.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 05/16/2008


fillou posted:

"it's funny to see people driving H2 dinosaurs in the streets of Chicago ... "

*
That's because gas is still relatively cheap.
Throw $0.50 carbon tax on it to fund Alt.Enrg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 05/21/2008

1999 : Gallon of gas was cheaper than a gallon of water : 99 cents or even less in Ohio at that time
2008 : Gallon of gas at $4 !

Bush's success ! The USA is so far behing to develop new energies and people cling so hard to their SUV, it's funny to see people driving H2 dinosaurs in the streets of Chicago ...