Israel, Syria Peace Talks Confirmed

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JOSEF FEDERMAN | May 21, 2008 06:08 PM EST | AP

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Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, gestures during a Knesset, Israel's parliament, session in Jerusalem, Wednesday, May 21, 2008. Israel and Syria on Wednesday said they were holding indirect peace talks through Turkish mediators _ the first official confirmation of contacts between the longtime enemies. (AP Photo/Dan Balilty)

JERUSALEM — Israel and Syria unexpectedly announced Wednesday the resumption of peace talks after an eight-year break, saying they have been speaking indirectly through Turkish mediators "in order to achieve the goal of comprehensive peace."

The longtime adversaries each have something to gain from the dialogue. Israel wants to reduce Syrian support for anti-Israel militants in Gaza and Lebanon, while Syria is eager to improve ties with the U.S. and end its international isolation.

But many obstacles, including a skeptical Israeli public opposed to ceding the strategic Golan Heights to Syria, a scandal-plagued Israeli prime minister and Syria's providing a home base for radical militant groups, will make it difficult to reach a deal.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Syrian President Bashar Assad both recently confirmed their countries had exchanged messages. But Wednesday's announcement, in identical statements issued minutes apart by Israel, Syria and Turkey, was the first official confirmation peace talks were under way.

"Syria and Israel have started indirect peace talks under the auspices of Turkey," the statement said. It said the two enemies "have declared their intent to conduct these talks in good faith and with an open mind," with a goal of reaching a comprehensive peace.

Noticeably absent from the announcement was the U.S., the traditional power broker in the region. White House spokeswoman Dana Perino suggested the United States was informed in advance but was not participating.

"We were not surprised by it and we do not object to it," she said. "We hope that this is a forum to address various concerns we all have with Syria, Syria's support of terrorism, repression of its own people."

President Bush has accused Syria of sheltering terrorists and supporting insurgents in Iraq, and he criticizes Damascus for backing of Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon and Palestinian militants.

In an address Wednesday evening, Olmert said the contacts with Syria had been under way for over a year and noted that previous Israeli leaders were prepared to make "painful concessions" for peace with Syria. Those efforts, by then-prime ministers Yitzhak Rabin and Ehud Barak, failed.

"It is always better to talk than to shoot," Olmert said, "and I'm happy the two sides have decided to talk," though he predicted difficult negotiations.

An Israeli government official said Olmert's chief of staff and diplomatic adviser have been in Turkey since Monday. Israel's Channel 10 TV showed them returning home Wednesday evening.

"Their Syrian counterparts are in Turkey as well," the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the contacts. He declined to discuss the substance of the talks.

Turkey's NTV television said the Israeli and Syrian delegations were in Istanbul but were not meeting directly.

Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan, speaking to reporters during a visit to Bulgaria, said the start of indirect contacts was "an important development" and urged journalists not to be "impatient" concerning details of the meetings.

"These talks will continue indirectly in the period ahead," the Turkish state-run Anatolia news agency quoted him as saying, refusing to say where the talks are taking place.

Israel and Syria are bitter enemies whose attempts at reaching peace have failed in the past, most recently in 2000. The nations have fought three wars, their forces have clashed in Lebanon, and more recently, Syria has given support to Hezbollah and Palestinian militant groups in the Gaza Strip.

The sides' demands in any peace deal are well-known. Syria wants a full Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights, a strategic plateau captured by Israel in the 1967 Middle East War and later annexed. The last round of peace talks collapsed over disagreements over the last fraction of an Israeli withdrawal.

Israel wants Syria to end its support for anti-Israel militants and curb its ties with Iran, while demanding full peace relations.

While neither appears ready to meet those conditions right now, renewed dialogue could quickly deliver other benefits.

Israel has been battling Hamas militants in Gaza since the Islamic group seized control of the area last June. Israeli talks with Syria could ultimately weaken Hamas, whose leaders are based in Damascus.

In Gaza, Hamas spokesman Ghazi Hamad said relations with Syria were "very strong" and he didn't expect any changes.

Israel also wants to reduce the influence of Hezbollah, which battled Israel to a stalemate during a 34-day war in 2006. Israel believes Hezbollah has replenished its arsenal with Syrian help.

Syria's Assad has expressed interest in restarting peace talks for years. His deep international isolation may have pushed him to take the plunge.

Syria's relations with moderate Arab powerhouses Egypt and Saudi Arabia are at their lowest in years, and last September, Israeli warplanes destroyed a suspected nuclear installation in Syria.

By going into talks with Israel, Syria can show the West that it is moderating its policies and perhaps reap political benefits with the next U.S. administration.

Syria "is not as interested in making peace with Israel as it is in making peace with Washington," said Itamar Rabinovich, who served as an Israeli negotiator in the last round of talks with Syria,

Olmert has repeatedly signaled his willingness to pull out of the Golan, but actually doing so would not be easy. The Israeli leader, already unpopular since the Lebanon war, has seen his image further tarnished by a police investigation into his financial dealings.

Today the Golan Heights are home to 18,000 Israelis, who run thriving wine and tourism industries. Last month, Olmert spent his Passover vacation at an inn on the Golan. The area has been calm since the 1973 Mideast war, and many Israelis consider it a valuable buffer against attack.

"The people of Israel will not support such a deluded and irresponsible move, which would hand over such a vital Israeli strategic asset to the Arab axis of evil," said the Golan Residents Council, a group representing Israeli settlers there.

About 17,000 Arabs, most members of the Druse sect, an offshoot of Islam, live in the territory. A few have taken Israeli citizenship, and the rest remain loyal to Syria.

A poll last month by the Dahaf Institute, an Israeli research firm, showed 51 percent of Israelis opposed to giving up the Golan, while 32 percent said they were in favor. Roughly three-quarters of respondents said they thought Assad was not serious about peace. The poll questioned 500 Israelis and had a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points.

___ / Associated Press Writer Sam F. Ghattas contributed to this report from Beirut, Lebanon.

 
 

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Kudos to Turkey for brokering this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 05/21/2008

I'd like to offer up a solution to the Golan Heights problem. Sometime ago, I remember an article
about the return of wildlife to the Golan Heights, since it's been a bit of a no mans land. My
suggestion would be for the Israelis and the Syrians to look at the US Glacier National Park, and
the Canadian Waterton Lakes International Peace Park, and come up with a similar solution to
the Golan Heights. As a National Park it should obviously be demilitarized, and scientists of both
nations could be involved in its restoration. Israel should contribute to the park, where the ecology
makes sense. I'd only add that hikers are among the most peaceful people I know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 05/21/2008

cool idea

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 05/22/2008

I wonder if Joe Lieberman is frothing at the mouth?? Will he turn on Israel like he has turned on his own party?

Isn't politics a BLAST??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 05/21/2008

Isn't this just the sort of appeasement Bush warned the Israeli Knesset about??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 05/21/2008

Why the fuck are they talking to their enemies? Doesn't Israel this forbidden by the Bush/McCain Doctrine?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 05/21/2008

how dare they even think about talking to one another?? Oh the humanity !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 05/21/2008

Amazing...the Turkish government can do more in 6 months than Condi and her neoflunks have done in over 7 years.

Shame.

Thank you Turkey. Long live the sprit of Ataturk!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 05/21/2008

OMG George, APPEASERS! Now what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 05/21/2008

What a slap in the face for George Bush. After Israel's Knesset applauded his calling negotiators "appeasers", smiling and approving, then turned around, stabbed him in the back, humiliated him and slapped him in the face "after all he has done" and go and negotiate with Syria, yet refuse to do so with Hamas , Hezbollah or Iran. And this, while the US is almost ready to bomb Iran any day now. Israel has killed enough Americans, the USS Liberty and another infamous "event". Voting for someone who supports the schizoid policies of Israel over the US is inimical to America's interests. Obama has it right, and Hillary and McCain dangerously wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 05/21/2008

TALKING??????? Oh My God help us all!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 05/21/2008

After bombing their nuke project.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 05/21/2008

Wow, what a revelation...NOT!! Imagine...two very bitter enemies, Israel and Syria, sitting down and actually talking to one another about peace and without major conditions to do so up front. I wonder which nation will be called "an appeaser" and their delegation members called "appeasers" first by Bush, McCain and the other hacks and schmucks within the GOP?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 05/21/2008

I have a sneaking feeling da chimp's gonna have a press conference any minute. He will, of course, credit his recent visit for bringing peace to the middle east. Heck of a job Chimpy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 05/21/2008

Wonder if Bush was in Israel trying to talk the Israelis out of having peace talks with Syria?

I wouldn't be surprised if he was over there showing some trumped-up Fox News "evidence" that Syria was secretly building a "doomsday machine that would destroy the world."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 05/21/2008


Actually, I'm laughing, because the last thing the conservatives want is peace in the middle east.

Throws their end-time fantasies all off.

They put a stooge in the White House so they'd get armageddon but, damn, the idiot can't even do that right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 05/21/2008

He's still got six months left. Be patient with him; it's hard work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 05/21/2008

Yep, Bush makes f**king up look easy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 05/21/2008

Israel, Syria Peace Talks Confirmed


I'll put money down that the same critics of Obama who were screaming "APPEASER, APPEASER!!" won't utter a peep about this one. Hmmm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 05/21/2008

that's it in a nutshell....not a word will be heard about those israeli "appeasers"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 05/21/2008

Exactly - will McCain call his precious Israeli friends APPEASERS ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 05/21/2008

This is too easy. I wonder if the 'liberal' media picks up on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 05/21/2008

I think this is more of a symbolic gesture more than anything else. Isreal cant afford to only attack and not negotiate like they have been in recent years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 05/21/2008

Israel, Syria Peace Talks Confirmed

Fantastic!! Give Peace a Chance

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 05/21/2008

This is scary. Syria only controlled the Golan for 21 years, during which time they used it to menace northern Israel, shelling Jewish farmers and fishermen. Israel tired of that foolishness in 1967 and, having warned Soviet-armed Syria against such nonsense, took the Golan after much provocation. Since that time, the Golan has been Israeli---nearly 41 years. Why should Israel yield this strategic location to Syria, a known backer of terrorism which refuses to even acknowledge Israel's very right to exist? Israel stands to gain a pretty document. Paper doesn't stop thugs or tyrants; what good did 'peace treaties' with Hitler gain in the years prior to 1939? How about this: let Assad's government offer full diplomatic recognition of Israel PRIOR to negotiations and come to the table openly and as an equal? THEN Israel should listen. Not before.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/21/2008

ZenJu:

The Golan has always been part of Syria pre, during and post British colonization. This simple fact is the reason why the UN and the so-called "International Community" have never approved of its annexation or control by Israel. The same applies to the Shebah farms part of pre, and post French colonization of Lebanon. We can all be pro-Israel without attempting to re-write history.

Another blunder: "what good did 'peace treaties' with Hitler gain in the years prior to 1939?" Go back to your history books. No peace deal with Hitler was good enough simply because people (leaders) in 1939 did not see or understand the threat posed by the mishandling of post World War I (ridiculing Germany) as some people today do not see or understand the threat posed by the mishandling of post 9/11. Had the world taken Hitler and "Mein Kampf" seriously, the propaganda that brought him to power would have fallen into dead ears, and thus Germany would not have gotten Hitler as Prime Minister and later under a constitutional coup as Chancellor. Well, even W. the President of the good old USA did not know history as evidenced by his misunderstanding of what pre-1939 "Appeasement" was all about. So, I probably shouldn't be too hard on you.

Anytime we ignore history it comes back to hunt us.

Deparis

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 05/21/2008

Yep. Those Israelis don't know what they're doing. Thank God they have us Americans who are so much better at conducting foreign affairs to tell them what to do.

Zenju, get over there and do something before those Israel destroys itself!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 05/21/2008

I bet this didn't cross Israel's mind at all, ZenJu. Glad you brought it up, just in the nick of time!

There are plenty of ways to negotiate this. For example, the Golan is demilitarized. I think the war a couple of years ago with Hezbollah proved pretty clearly that "strategic locations" are meaningless in the Israeli context. Israel can be attacked from Lebanon or even, as in the Gulf war, two countries over, from Iraq. How does Golan or the West Bank protect against that?

It's a good sign. If there's peace with Syria, Lebanon follows. Then it's Palestine's turn...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 05/21/2008

Here we go again!

The Levant has been inhabited by the Arabs or Arabized population for thousands of years.

Israel's policy of expansion which governed its relationship with its neighbours from 1948 till 1973 began to meet a stumbling military block with the near defeat in 1973 War,the withdrwal from Lebanon in 2000 and its inability to handle its Lebanese adversaries in the 2006 War.

While procrastinations had helped Israel in the past, from Madrid to Sharm El-Shaik, the emerging military balance may well be driving a different alternative in the minds of its strategists. The events in Beirut a couple of seeks ago confirmed the possible existential problem Irsael faces today. This took place to the background of the growth of military strength and reach of Iran and the clear stalemate with Hamas where Israel's vulnerability to terrorist attacks is matching its own terrorist onslaughts on Gaza.

One hopes that the negotiations should succeed. If they do, the people of Israel, who sought refuge, peace and equanimity in Palestine, and the people of Palestine, Syria and would be the winners. Only the shadow of procrastinations is difficult to dismiss, and one wonders if Israel will be whiling its time until the end of President Bush's term - a man with a dire need for a semblance of foreign policy achievement.... And then a new page, a new Madrid, and a new Oslo, and a new Camp David, and a new Wye River Agreements.... ad infinitum?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 05/21/2008

syria's recogniton of isreal should be concurrent with a peace treaty that requies isreal to give up golan. this is the only thing that will work. also, the golan must be demilitarized just as sinai was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 PM on 05/21/2008

AND, the Isrealis left the bunkers and machine guns that the Syrians had pointing on them and the Galilee below there as a memorial of what it was like when Syria occupied it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 05/21/2008

Have you ever been to the Golan and stood on it? Obviously not because it is not militarized.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 05/21/2008

Syria never menaced Israel from the Golan Heights. That claim was a ruse by Israel - an excuse to invade, which it did in '67. The tactic of the Jews is to plant farmers beyond the armistice lines. When the Syrians respond, Israel sends in the tanks and jets. In that way, Israel gets larger by increments.

The Golan Heights has always been Syrian. While Syria may be a 'known backer of terrorism,' Isreal is an outright practitioner of terror - that's why few of its leaders can travel to Europe - they are liable for arrest for their violence against their natives as well as the native Palestinian population. As far as recognizing Israel's right to exist - that's what negotiations are, de facto. Besides, the world recognizes that the Golan is Syrian, the world except Israel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 05/21/2008

There is absolutely no strategic or even a tactical value for the Golan. If Israeli reports are to be believed, Syria is capable of striking anywhere it wishes with its rockets - and it seems so could its allies in the Lebanon, following the 2006 War.

This is why peace now is important. There are several issues that need to be sorted out in that part of the world. Water is one huge one. All the countries in that region need to resolve that issue: Turkey with Iraq and Syria, Syria with Israel and Jordan, Israel with Lebanon and Syria. The truth of the matter, is that oil would be a good reason for some (wink, wink, say no more!) to torpedo any deal. The Saudi Royal Family sees a definite threat in a peace that would direct attention to its festering autocracy, Jordan would say byeee to the other Royal autocracy, and soon the edifaces of the of Princely parasites in the Gulf would crumble... And in none of that the oil interests (wink, wink, say no moooooore!) would take charge and bring the entire matter to an aborted close....

Just a week ago, every effort was made to dynamite an agreement in Lebanon. That the agreement reached would be executed upon is dependent on the US asministration, its driving force (wink, wink, sayyyyyy no more) and of course the Israeli right wing...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 05/21/2008

Palspal, you need to read your history if you really think "Syria never menaced Israel from the Golan Heights." I seem to remember sitting on a defunct Syrian tank in the Golan Heights when i was there in 1989, but maybe the Israelis just put there as a "ruse."

Oh brother.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 05/21/2008

Zak - Syria, like any nation is entitled to have its own tanks within its country - and defend itself from within its own borders. It's only Israel that thinks it can routinely place tanks (active engaged tanks, at that) outside of its country - and cry victimhood.
Israel took Golan because it wanted to menace Damascus (which it is known to do), because it wanted to control the headwaters of the Jordan River tributaries below, and because...Israel is in the process of grabbing all the land the original Zionists demanded of France and Britain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 05/22/2008

Beg to differ. If you bother to do the research, you'll find that the USSR was egging Syria on and falsely reporting non-existent Israeli troop concentrations on the Israel/Syria border in the weeks before 6 June 1967. The Soviet ambassador pointedly refused an Israeli invitation to come verify this personally; others international observers, however, DID verify that Israel had NOT concentrated troops near Syria.
Here's the bottom line: Israel has had to fight uphill all the way to simply survive in the Middle East. How laughable is your contention that "the Jews" (telling phrase, that) were enlarging Israel by increments. If the Arabs had recognized Israel from 1948, there would BE a "Palestinian" state already; if the Arabs had truly desired to create a "Palestine," then Egypt and Jordan would have created one between 1949 and 1967 in the "West Bank" and "Gaza." Why didn't they, one wonders? And what decent nations would kept Arab refugees AND their descendents penned up in hellish camps for six decades, when they could have offered homes and jobs and dignity to them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 05/21/2008