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Latest McCain Economic Proposal Seen As Incoherent

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May 21, 2008 12:38 PM


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About Seth Colter Walls

Seth Colter Walls is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, MSNBC and Lebanon's Daily Star newspaper. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of New York University. He can be reached at walls@huffingtonpost.com.


In 2007, Sen. John McCain blamed out-of-control GOP spending for the Democrats' takeover of the House of Representatives. "We came to power in 1994 to change government, and government changed us," he said at the time. Now you can count McCain among the transformed -- but not in any consistent manner.

While proposing tax cuts twice as deep as those signed by President Bush, not only has McCain failed to explain how he'll pay for them, he's now also proposing new spending: a Republican heresy he surely would have blasted only a year ago, and which experts say would lead to an even bigger deficit.

The Christian Science Monitor concluded in April that McCainomics consists of "traditional GOP tax-cutting, with a dash of populism sprinkled on top." This week's sprinkle came in the form of a plan for increased job training for workers hit hard by the economic downturn -- precisely the same idea the RNC blasted Democrats for talking about three weeks ago:

"Obama and Clinton's economic plans are what you expect from two senators who think that big government is the solution for just about every problem. Obama and Clinton's plans for more taxes, spending and regulations will lead to fewer homeowners and jobs."

Compare that to an excerpt from McCain's economic speech in Chicago on Monday:

"We have to help displaced workers at every turn on a tough road, so that they are not just spectators on the opportunities of others. And I have made that commitment with reforms to expand and improve federal aid to American workers in need."

Chris Edwards, director of tax policy studies at the conservative Cato Institute, told The Huffington Post that McCain has thus far failed to give the public "straight talk" on the connection between his spending agenda and tax cutting plan. "Should McCain be consistent and match his tax cuts with spending cuts? Absolutely. We already have a $400 billion deficit, and we're against expanding that," Edwards said.

How to describe this contradiction, not only with his party, but with his own Senate record of voting against job training assistance for the past six years? "I'm sure its something his political advisers suggested he do," Edwards said. "I doubt it's an idea his economic advisers are particularly in favor of. But that's just something economic advisers have to put up with on a presidential campaign. ... For years, academic economic studies have suggested that [job training programs] are of dubious value, anyway."

Liberal economists who support the idea of job training assistance also wonder how McCain can achieve that objective, given McCain's tax cut priorities. Len Burman, a senior fellow and tax policy analyst with the the Urban Institute, called McCain's Monday speech "interesting," but cautioned: "His proposed tax cuts will either make it very difficult for the government to help vulnerable populations -- including many more than those displaced by trade -- or add to our ballooning budget deficits."

For his part, McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds disputed the notion that any new job training program would necessarily have to increase the deficit, and suggested that trimming "wasteful spending in Washingon" could pay for new programs. He also said McCain's new attention to the issue derives not from political expediency, but from the opportunity that running for president has afforded him to help workers in a way that accords with his "own ideas" about the economy.

Whether or not McCain's latest dash of populism is the result of political positioning, the validity his "own ideas" about the economy remains an open question. "I don't think -- and McCain has as much as admitted this -- he [has] a very strong basis in economic theory or understanding," Edwards said. Meanwhile, Burman noted that if McCain were to get his way and enlarge the deficit to expand job training assistance, "that would contribute to our trade deficit over time, meaning that more workers will be displaced by trade -- and fewer will benefit from the export-related jobs that the Senator trumpets."

 
 

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McCain is really stuck in an impossible position. He's too moderate for his base, so he has to cozy up to them by aligning himself with right wing nut jobs and irresponsible fiscal policy. But by doing so, he loses independent and moderate support to Obama. So to fix that, he needs to appear compassionate and that he's only pandering to the lunatic right. Keep in mind that right-wing policy and moderate policy are polar opposites of one another. The result is the incoherent blather we hear today. Eventually this will lead to a complete break down and McCain will just lose it. A person can't spend that long in perpetual self-contradiction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 05/22/2008

Elections '08 - Best Reality show yet.

Seriously, McSame should just check into a nursing home (his house is basically an assisted living)-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 05/22/2008

One should keep in mind, that McCain, graduated near the bottom of his class at the Naval
Academy, as did Hillary from law school. This doesn't absolutely identify you as as a doofus,
but is certainly a strong indicator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 05/21/2008

It isn't really that McCain is incoherent as a person. Republican fiscal policy is incoherent, it's just easier to see when McCain says it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 05/21/2008


...logical, well-reasoned people cannot see how John McCain is even in the ruuning for POTUS, let alone how he would win it...

...however, do not underestimate the illusion and fallacy carved out by the Rethuglican party, of what a "true patriot" is...

...and they have done so so successfully that this fallacy has slowly but very surely become a REALITY to a lot of Americans...

...and guess who fits that "true patriot" "definition the best , to many Americans?...

...yup, old delusional, demented and incoherent John McCain...

...that is how he could take the POTUS prize in November...

...and that is all the more reason why what HRC is doing now by staying on in the race DESPITE the odds, is so DANGEROUS for the Democratic party...McCain COULD WIN...

Obama 2008!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 05/21/2008

I don't see how people think this guy has a chance. He hasn't got a clue on how to run our foreign policy or our economy. He is just going to use Bush's failed ideas and repackage them as "straight talk".

Obama is going to clean his clock this fall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 05/21/2008

McCain is getting hit from the left and right on economic and foreign policy. Who agrees with this guy?

The only way that McCain can pay for his tax cuts is by drastically cutting either defense or Medicare. Guess which one is headed for the chopping block. And they say Obama will have trouble with seniors...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 05/21/2008

If we are going to have OLD people getting involved "over their heads" with economic issues, then we need to have remedial education. It"s been 5 or 6 decades since they have had education and apparently they are ignorant of the new world around them.

Teaching themselves doesn"t get the job done. They need classes to go with their glasses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 05/21/2008

Remember when McCain allegedly said Bush was "dumb as a rock??" Well, whatever is DUMBER than a rock = McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 05/21/2008

Perhaps the national debt will be twice as deep ... Perhaps McCain wants to have the U$D trade on par with the Mexican Peso!
The incoherent part is understandable! McCain can't get the Mideast players or history right either. No telling how mixed up he is on other issues. This is dangerous! We've already had eight years of somewhat brain damaged, incoherent leadership, and look where we are! Forget his belligerent attitude, perhaps his brain isn't what it used to be!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 05/21/2008

McCain's foreign policy is incoherent as well. How can it be otherwise with his continuing confusion over Shites and Sunnis and which group is prominent in Al Qaida, with his uncertainty about who the supreme ruler is in Iran, etc. The man is a babbling idiot who believes in positions that are based on erroneous assumptions, a lot like the Current Babbler. How anyone could seriously consider voting for this dangerous fool is beyond me. But then I thought the same about Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 05/21/2008

Now what do we really expect? This is a man who buys a fishing pole to fish in his man made lake paid for by some of his wife's undisclosed millions. GO FISH!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 05/21/2008

Does anyone think Bush was picked for his policy stands? Puhleeze people pay attention. Republicans are chosen by stirring the emotions of the voters. Bush mocked Gore's fuzzy math. Bush was going to keep America safe from Godless married homosexual abortionists. Then in 2004 from terror. I remember the fear mongering against Gore. Gore will raise gas prices to $2.50 for God's sake and use that money for that kooky alternate fuel tree hugger crap. Anyone who underestimates the lengths to which the GOP will go to stay in power hasn't learned from history. Republicans hear tax cut and that's all they hear or care about. Oh yeah McCain give it to me, give me that tax cut, Yeah.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 05/21/2008

MCain has admitted he knows very little about economics. Then he had the utter stupidity to say "maybe I'll read Alan Greenspan's book".

This from a man who was almost last in his class at West Point. like he'd understand the first paragraph....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 05/21/2008

894th out of 899 graduates!

As a concerned citizen, I think it's our right to know more regarding his mental health. All of us appreciate his service to this country, but, I'm sure that most POWs must suffer from PTSD. As a woman, I also don't like that fact that he started dating his current wife while still married. Not very honorable, if you ask me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 05/21/2008

Really? Almost LAST in his class??? Oh, hell to the N-O !!! We already have one C-student in the White House, and we certainly don't need one that barely made it out.

America: this is scary ... please think before you vote!!!

OBAMA '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 05/21/2008

Incoherent=McCain and not just in the Economics sector

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 05/21/2008

Seen as incoherent?
It smells incoherent, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 05/21/2008

This moron even admitted during one of the early debates that he has no clue/background when it pertains to economics ... and the repubs think he could beat Barack??? PUH-LEEZ!!!

OBAMA '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 05/21/2008

McCain and incoherent in the same sentence - get used to that reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 05/21/2008

It's called trickle down or as Bush I said VooDoo economics. It has failed miserably for 40 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 05/21/2008

ROTFL:

The straight talk express has run into a ditch along the Weshington Beltway!
Even republicans realize that McCain is not strong on economic policy "...Chris Edwards, director of tax policy studies at the conservative Cato Institute, told The Huffington Post that McCain has thus far failed to give the public "straight talk" on the connection between his spending agenda and tax cutting plan. "Should McCain be consistent and match his tax cuts with spending cuts?"
Too bad McCain's buddies in the main stream media are not covering this.
But of course main stream media would not cover the truth since it it the main stream media who has been perpetuating the lie/myth that McCain is a straight talking maverick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/21/2008

His economic policy is as incoherent as his entire campaign is! OBAMA 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 05/21/2008

The only problem with the Republicans these days is they have violated pretty much everything they stand for so they have nothing to stand on. They say they are against "big government' and yet we have the biggest government right now than at any other point in our history. How can you advocate positions that you don't believe or practice?

I don't think the masses are as stupid as they have been. With all the younger people getting involved this year gives me hope that the voters in this country might actually pay attention and not just listen to what the politicians and the MSM are telling us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 05/21/2008

McCain/Bush economics don't have to make sense. They are geared to the wealthy. His lack of understnading doesn't matter because he does as he is told. That's why he gets confused when he "talks off the cuff". He's just a tool to be used by the profiteers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/21/2008

It starts with McMaverick, he is incoherent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 05/21/2008

I find virtually everything old man McSame says to be incoherent.

I figured his wife liked him like that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 05/21/2008
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