Wartime PTSD cases jumped roughly 50 pct. in 2007

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PAULINE JELINEK | May 27, 2008 11:44 PM EST | AP

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An Iraqi girl walks as U.S. soldiers of 4th Infantry Division, 42nd Field Artillery, patrol in Ramaniyah neighborhood, Karck district, Baghdad, Iraq, on Wednesday, May 21, 2008. (AP Photo/Petros Giannakouris)

WASHINGTON — The number of troops with new cases of post-traumatic stress disorder jumped by roughly 50 percent in 2007 amid the military buildup in Iraq and increased violence there and in Afghanistan.

Records show roughly 40,000 troops have been diagnosed with the illness, also known as PTSD, since 2003. Officials believe that many more are likely keeping their illness a secret.

"I don't think right now we ... have good numbers," Army Surgeon General Eric Schoomaker said Tuesday.

Defense officials had not previously disclosed the number of PTSD cases from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Army statistics showed there were nearly 14,000 newly diagnosed cases across the services in 2007 compared with more than 9,500 new cases the previous year and 1,632 in 2003.

Schoomaker attributed the big rise over the years partly to the fact that officials started an electronic record system in 2004 that captures more information, and to the fact that as time goes on the people keeping records are more knowledgeable about the illness.

He also blamed increased exposure of troops to combat.

Factors increasing troop exposure to combat in 2007 included President Bush's troop buildup and the fact that 2007 was the most violent year in both conflicts.

More troops also were serving their second, third or fourth tours of duty _ a factor mental health experts say dramatically increases stress. And in order to supply enough forces for the buildup, officials also extended tour lengths to 15 months from 12, another factor that caused extra emotional strain.

Officials have been encouraging troops to get help even if it means they go to civilian therapists and don't report it to the military.

"We're trying very hard to encourage soldiers and families to seek care and to not have them feel in any way, shape or form that we're looking over their shoulder or that we're invading their privacy," Schoomaker told a group of defense writers.

Noting that stigma is a problem in American civilian society, not just the military, he said, "I think that's the preferred way to do it."

The accounting of diagnosed cases released Tuesday shows those hardest hit last year were Marines and Army personnel, the two ground forces bearing the brunt of combat in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Army reported more than 10,000 new cases last year, compared with more than 6,800 new cases the previous year. More than 28,000 soldiers altogether were diagnosed with the disorder over the last five years, the data showed.

The Marine Corps had more than 2,100 new cases in 2007, compared with 1,366 in 2006. More than 5,000 Marines have been diagnosed with PTSD since 2003, the data showed.

Navy officials who would have data on Marine health issues did not return a phone call seeking to confirm the numbers released by Schoomaker's office.

Schoomaker said he believes PTSD is widely misunderstood by the press and the public _ and that what is often just normal post-traumatic anxiety and stress is mistaken for full-blown PTSD.

Experts say many troops have symptoms of stress, such as nightmares and flashbacks, and can get better with early treatment.

The Pentagon had previously only given a percentage of troops believed affected by depression, anxiety, stress and so on _ saying up to 20 percent return home with symptoms of mental health problems. A recent private study estimated that could mean up to 300,000 of those who've served have symptoms.

The Veterans Affairs Department said recently it has seen some 120,000 Iraq and Afghanistan veterans who have received at least a preliminary mental health diagnosis, with PTSD being the most common diagnosis at nearly 60,000.

An undisclosed number of troops also go to private care providers who are part of the huge military health care system. Schoomaker noted that National Guard and Reserve troops often go home to communities where there is not a veterans facility nearby.

"We're working very hard with the VA and with the National Guard and Reserves to get a better feel for, a grasp on, how big this is," Schoomaker said, adding that over time officials will be able to collect data and get "a better feel for, handle on, the numbers."

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- Inishmore See Profile I'm a Fan of Inishmore permalink

There are certain issues that are beyond being glib about. PTSD is one of them. PTSD is a diagnosis that arises from changes in the biochemistry of a human brain and nervous system when it is has been subjected to horror.

Unless you have had a flashback, you cannot understand the ferocity or agony of what your brain can produce. (I apologise to those who do have PTSD and who are posting to this particular forum; I do not mean to condescend nor get up on my high horse).

There are 40,000 + veterans who have PTSD as a result of these wars. And you multiply that by the suffering that their families endure. Do not abandon them, nor forget that their suffering is a result of humans being involved in inhumane situations. Do not allow the veterans of Afghanistan or Iraq to become another Vietnam where traumatised veterans were spat on in the street and abandoned.

And yes, that does not count the trauma or the horror of those in Afghanistan and Iraq who live with the horror, suffering and deaths surrounding the occupation.

Read the DSM-IV criteria for PTSD if you want to know how someone is diagnosed with this illness.

War and the Soul: Healing Our Nation's Veterans from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder by Edward Tick is an excellent book, explaining 'the making' of PTSD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 05/31/2008
- Rog49Thomas See Profile I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas permalink

A lot has been written in the leftist press about PTSD and our troops.

But as usual liberal ideologues overlook a truly disadvantaged group in our society.

The New York Times had an article about this group"s suffering which I must admit even touched my usually cold heart. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/25/business/25pain.html?_r=1&dlbk&oref=slogin

Here"s just a small sample of this heart rending story.

"It (the mind) goes numb. It goes into survival mode. Fear quickly turns into anger. For some, there may be relief in saying goodbye to what therapists call the "psychological terror" that has haunted the corridors of troubled financial institutions since last summer. But what follows " the unknown " may be no less frightening."

Luckily we have a compassionate conservative in the White House with his priorities "straight". And so I"m sure aid will soon be on its way to those who truly need compassion and assistance " investment bankers.

Unlike investment bankers (who took their positions for cash), our troops volunteered (to quote your beloved VP). Accordingly compassion and aid for Vets will we scaled down to take care of this more needy group.

In any case there is a simple and cost- effective cure for combat related PTSD. An American flag lapel pin. And take two yellow ribbons and call Dr. Sam the Pet Doctor (the vet for Vets) in the morning.

It"s uncanny how the free market can solve every problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 05/29/2008
- brainuser See Profile I'm a Fan of brainuser permalink

Sorry, PESD should be PTSD. Looks like I need a new keyboard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 05/28/2008
- brainuser See Profile I'm a Fan of brainuser permalink

A German doctor studying "shell shock" in World War One concluded that war is contrary to human nature and that "shell shock" resulted from a fight-or-flight situatuation in which flight was unavailable. What does that say about troops that do not suffer "shell shock", PESD, etc.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 05/28/2008
- gregjones See Profile I'm a Fan of gregjones permalink

Scott McClellan's (Bush's Spokesperson) new book proves that it is time for Americans to wake up as to how we have been totally bamboozled by The Regime via the media. It is of vital importance that Americans learn about PNAC...the plan written in 1992 for America to invade Iraq, Iran and Syria (in that order). The PNAC plan (google it) was signed by the drafters and signatures included Cheney, Wolfovitz, Rumsfeld, Card, Bolton and basically every member of the Bush Regime. THE MEDIA HID THIS FOR YEARS AND IS STILL DOING SO. The only place that some truth would squeek out was through Arianna, Democracy Now, The Nation and occasional CSPAN. WAKE UP AMERICA. Even other countries knew just how mislead we were for years. THEY THINK AMERICANS ARE STUPID ! Everyone MUST stay on this terrible truth. Over 4000 American heros ARE DEAD FOR A LIE (and 10's of thousands detroyed for life). LEARN TRUTH.....THE AWAKENING IS UPON US !!!!! And if McCain wants to continue this war based on total lies.....he should be courtmarshalled for treason !

p.s. Don't believe the media as they CLAIM they were duped. THEY ARE LYING....AGAIN !

Greg Jones
B4B

p.s. The 6 so-called military experts recently caught being paid by the Pentagon to lie daily regarding the Iraq War (over 4500 appearances) via cable news channels could not have done so without the cooperation of the news networks. The Regime and Media worked TOGETHER !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 05/28/2008
- peacekitten See Profile I'm a Fan of peacekitten permalink

if TBI and PTSD are like "football injuries," then why don't we pay the soldiers like NFL stars?

at least then they could afford the health care they need to work through these nightmarish disorders and get their lives back as much as they can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 05/28/2008
- wsblake See Profile I'm a Fan of wsblake permalink

Yeah, real men don't get "shell-shocked" as they called it back in WW 1. You never heard the Duke whining about a few dead civilians. What a bunch of pansies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 05/28/2008
- memphispaul See Profile I'm a Fan of memphispaul permalink

The closest you have ever been to combat is coming home to a pissed off domestic partner you R.E.M.F.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 05/28/2008
- TheWarOnHorror See Profile I'm a Fan of TheWarOnHorror permalink

Perhaps because "The Duke's" wartime experience didn't extend past the backlot of Republic pictures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 05/28/2008
- truthbrigade See Profile I'm a Fan of truthbrigade permalink

4 Million Innocent Iraqis died, burned, orphaned, imprisoned, humiliated, made refugees, made destitute by these mercenaries (ALL OF THEM). I have NO sympathy at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 05/28/2008
- peacekitten See Profile I'm a Fan of peacekitten permalink

you know, you have every right to be bitter, considering you barely managed to escape the drain in the gene pool.

how's that green blood working for you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 05/28/2008
- BlueStateMan See Profile I'm a Fan of BlueStateMan permalink

You're an idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 05/28/2008
- TekBoss See Profile I'm a Fan of TekBoss permalink

The VA is touting absolute rubbsih. If anything the PTSD problem is worse than anyone thinks. In fact, I would venture to say that every single troop in Iraq and Afghanistan that is in or near a combat area has some form of PTSD.

PTSD is a pshycological disorder caused by being where people want to kill you for an extended period of time. It is made worse, often far worse, by being in situations where bullets race past your face and even worse still if you shoot back and actually kill somebody.

But I gurantee that every single soldier, marine, airman and sailor in our miltiary that has been in, or signifcantly close to, a combat area has some form of it. THIS IS THE COST OF WAR and we better get used to paying it.

Republicans only care about low or no taxes and jobs for their friends and money in their pockets. They believe in party over country and we would do well to rebuke them as we have done to the communists in the past. For they are worse than communists. They are Fascists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 05/28/2008
- Ammobob See Profile I'm a Fan of Ammobob permalink

One reason why PTSD is hard to diagnose and treat:


CAUSE:
"Witnessing traumatic experiences or learning about these experiences may also cause the development of PTSD symptoms"

So second hand graphic hearsay may cause PTSD. Hmmmm.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 05/28/2008
- TheWarOnHorror See Profile I'm a Fan of TheWarOnHorror permalink

Bob:

I disagree with that cause you cited.

You can't develop PTSD for simply "learning" about something traumatic through "second hand graphic hearsay".

There has to be first-hand trauma on a personal level. The disorder is not that hard to diagnose. It presents with clear-cut, quantifiable symptoms.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 05/28/2008
- LorettaSingbiel See Profile I'm a Fan of LorettaSingbiel permalink

The Department of Veterans Affairs doesn't have to provide medical care to soldiers dismissed with "personality disorder". Under Regulation 635-200, Chapter 5-13 in the Army's separations manual, "personality disorder" is a PRE-EXISTING condition. The military is PURPOSELY MISDIAGNOSING soldiers for one reason: to CHEAT them out of a lifetime of disability and medical benefits, thereby saving BILLIONS in expenses.

Army doctors who give questionabe diagnoses face NO DANGER of malpractice suits, due to Feres v. U.S., a 1950 Supreme Court ruling that bars soldiers from suing for negligence. By calling PTSD a "personality disorder", they usher soldiers out QUICKLY, freeing up space for "deployable" soldiers.

Perhaps Scott McLellan can clue us in on how many soldiers were discharged with these PRE-EXISTING "PERSONALITY DISORDERS"!?

THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION "supporting" the troops! ... PRICELESS!!!

DEMOCRATS MUST GROW A BACKBONE
AND BRING OUR TROOPS BACK HOME!!!

OBAMA '08!
HOPE & CHANGE!

Stay safe, healthy and happy,
Love, Loretta

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 05/28/2008
- Ammobob See Profile I'm a Fan of Ammobob permalink

A government bureaucracy 'cheating' people??? You jest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 05/28/2008
- H.L. Mencken See Profile I'm a Fan of H.L. Mencken permalink

Today in America there is a glaring difference in public perception of Vietnam veterans and Iraq veterans! Vietnam veterans were drafted by the federal government and made to fight while Iraq veterans volunteered to serve! The endemic question is should jingoism and patriotic mien be rewarded? or did the volunteers assume the risk?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 05/28/2008
- memphispaul See Profile I'm a Fan of memphispaul permalink

That is not the way the regulations are set up. To make that change we would need to pay our riflemen the same prevailing wage the folks from Blackwater get. 150K-300K per year tax free. Are you ready to pay service members prevailing wage or keep the system we have in place that pays out $700.00 per month for 50% lifetime disability.
Your choice!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 05/28/2008
- BlueStateMan See Profile I'm a Fan of BlueStateMan permalink

Mots of them "volunteered" for the National Guard & Reserves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 05/28/2008
- Marlyn See Profile I'm a Fan of Marlyn permalink

Dick Cheney and GW Bush often point out that "they volunteered", so I guess the answer is officially, yes, they did assume the risk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 05/28/2008
- booker52 See Profile I'm a Fan of booker52 permalink

5 deferment Dicky may have volunteered, he didn't serve, Bush the same. No risk for these two!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 05/28/2008
- lisakaz2 See Profile I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 permalink

Grtreat: don't report your therapy to the military -- so we can ship your ass back. If you get worse or kill yourself, we'll just replace you.

Why does Bu$hco and their VA hate our troops?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 05/28/2008
- Marmann See Profile I'm a Fan of Marmann permalink

This is probably the most ignorant article I've ever read in my life. Call it what you want -- PTSD, battle fatigue, shell shock, combat stress -- it's not only very real, but it's probably affecting Bush soldiers even more than those who served in prior wars, including Vietnam. (At least, other presidents were intelligent enough to know that Nam vets neededsome R and R; Bush just continues to work them as mules and even sends them back into combat after they've been injured. I guess Bush's definition of the "end" of their tours of duty is (1) when their bodies are dead or (2) when their souls are dead.

Anyone who doesn't think PTSD is a very real, disabling, debilitating disease is either just ignorant and in dire need of education, or is pathologically heartless and merely regards U.S. soldiers as the "King's" subjects -- maybe both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 05/28/2008
- MikeDu See Profile I'm a Fan of MikeDu permalink

About the VA's claim that PTSD is overblown and is like a 'football injury'.
Take a survey of how many former pro football player can now barely get out of a chair and are medicated for constant pain. Maybe they're right. PTSD is on par with a football injury if you mean its crippling and debilitating for life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 05/28/2008
- Irons See Profile I'm a Fan of Irons permalink

"They volunteered, " said Dick Cheney.

Cheney got five deferments during the Vietnam War and finally had to get Lynn pregnant to stay out of harm's way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 05/28/2008
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