Puerto Rico Primary: Clinton Wins

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DAVID ESPO and JIM KUHNHENN | June 1, 2008 11:59 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., chats with supporters at the Kaslata Bakery in San Juan, as she campaigns on primary day in Puerto Rico, Sunday, June 1, 2008. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — Hillary Rodham Clinton won a lopsided, but largely symbolic victory Sunday in Puerto Rico's presidential primary, the final act in a weekend of tumult that pushed Barack Obama tantalizingly close to the Democratic presidential nomination.

The former first lady was winning roughly two-thirds of the votes as she continued a strong run through the late primaries.

Before cheering supporters, she predicted she would have more combined votes than her rival when the primaries end Tuesday night, claimed victories in key swing states and said that no contender will command enough delegates to claim the nomination.

"In the final assessment I ask you to consider these questions. Which candidate best represents the will of the people who voted in this historic election?" she said in an appeal to some 200 uncommitted superdelegates who hold the balance of power in the fight for the nomination.

"Which candidate is best able to lead us to victory in November and which candidate is best able to lead our nation as our president in the face of unprecedented challenges at home and abroad?"

Obama and his aides projected confidence, and even in defeat, he gained 17 delegates in Puerto Rico, leaving him 47 short of the 2,118 needed to clinch the nomination.

Contrary to Clinton, they predicted he was on track to gain a delegate majority shortly after the primaries in South Dakota and Montana, and questioned her popular vote claim. Her assertion includes estimates for caucuses in Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington state, where no official candidate popular vote is available. It also includes the results from Florida, where no campaigning occurred, as well as Michigan, where Obama did not receive any votes because his name was not on the ballot.

Campaigning in Mitchell, S.D., the Illinois senator praised the former first lady in terms usually reserved for a vanquished rival.

"First of all, Senator Clinton is an outstanding public servant, she has worked tirelessly during this campaign ... and she is going to be a great asset when we go into November," he told his audience. "Whatever differences Senator Clinton and I may have, those differences pale in comparison to the other side."

Obama's confidence in the outcome of the historic battle between a woman and a black for the nomination reflected the results of Saturday's meeting of the Democratic Party's rules and bylaws committee. Before an audience that jeered and cheered by turns, the panel voted to seat disputed delegations from Michigan and Florida, but give each delegate only one-half vote rather than the full vote sought by the Clinton campaign.

While the decision narrowed the gap between Clinton and Obama, it also erased the former first lady's last, best chance to change the course of the campaign.

With all precincts reporting, the Puerto Rico vote count showed Clinton with 263,120 votes, or 68 percent, to Obama's 121,458, or 32 percent.

A telephone poll of likely Puerto Rican voters taken in the days leading up to the primary showed an electorate sympathetic to Clinton _ heavily Hispanic, as well as lower income and more than 50 percent female. About one-half also described themselves as conservative.

Nearly three-quarters of all those interviewed said they had a favorable view of Clinton, compared to 53 percent for Obama. One-third said they didn't know enough about Obama to form an impression.

The survey was conducted Tuesday through Saturday for The Associated Press and the television networks by Princeton Survey Research Associates International. It included 1,587 likely voters with a candidate preference; sampling error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

Obama had a total of 2,071 delegates in The Associated Press count, including 17 from Puerto Rico. He also gained the support of two superdelegates during the day.

Clinton has 1915.5, including 38 from Puerto Rico.

There are 31 delegates combined at stake in Montana and South Dakota on Tuesday, and Obama's high command sounded confident that enough superdelegates were poised to quickly climb on and deliver him the nomination.

There have been numerous statements by party leaders in recent days indicating they favor a quick end to the presidential race so the party can begin unifying for the fall race against John McCain, the Arizona senator who wrapped up the Republican nomination months ago.

And while Clinton's campaign said it reserved the right to challenge the decision concerning Michigan's delegates, Speaker Nancy Pelosi rushed out a statement Saturday night that congratulated the committee "for its good work."

The California Democrat has been neutral in the race, but also has been calling uncommitted lawmakers in recent days, urging them to issue their own endorsements soon after Tuesday.

Robert Gibbs, a senior aide, did not rule out the possibility that Obama will seat the Michigan and Florida delegations at full strength if he is the nominee.

"I think any nominee may make some decisions at some point regarding those delegations," he said on ABC's "This Week."

Clinton's campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, appearing on the same program, declined to say what Clinton would do. "We'll see where we are when we finish up Tuesday," he said. "Then superdelegates will begin to move."

He, as well as Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson, said the former first lady had won more votes that Obama in the course of the primary campaign _ an argument she placed in a new television advertisement in South Dakota and Montana, and one she makes to undecided superdelegates.

Gibbs disputed that _ and Clinton's claim includes estimates for caucuses in Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington state, where no official candidate popular vote is available. It also includes the results from Florida, where no campaigning occurred, as well as Michigan, where Obama did not receive any votes because his name was not on the ballot.

Clinton's campaign objected to the rules committee decision on Michigan's delegates, saying it had arbitrarily taken four delegates away from the former first lady and awarded them to Obama. As a result, officials said she may seek a decision on the issue by the convention credentials committee, which meets shortly before the convention opens in Denver.

Harold Ickes, a top adviser to Clinton, said on NBC's "Meet The Press" no decision had yet been made.

"I have not had a chance to talk with Senator Clinton at any length about it, and obviously this will be a big decision. But her rights are reserved," he said.

But one of her strongest supporters, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, sounded uninterested in a further challenge.

"I don't think we're going to fight this at the convention, because even were we to win it, unless it's going to change enough delegates for Senator Clinton to win the nomination, then it would be a fight that would have no purpose," Rendell said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

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Associated Press writer Danica Coto contributed to this report. AP Special Correspondent David Espo reported from Washington.

 
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Kos is reporting that the turnout in Puerto Rico was a big whopping 16%! So all that money and the 15 days the three Clintons spent there for a territory which cannot vote in the general was a brilliant political move by Clinton! I'm sure it turned the heads of a lot of superdelegates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 06/02/2008

HILLARY IT'S NOT YOUR TIME........YOU LOST.......NOW GET OVER IT AND HELP THE DEMOCRATES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 06/02/2008

All of this talk about post-hoc rule changes is absolutely bogus. It's meaningless to change one major variable post-ho because you can"t account for how the actors would have behaved differently--campaign differently for candidates"had the post-hoc rules been in place initially, which obviously means results would have been different.

Changing to a popular vote metric post-hoc is the worst of all"MI and FL for two, but for other states as well. They would"ve campaigned differently. The delegate system isn"t designed to function as a popular vote system. There are many ramifications of that.

Caucus states wouldn"t hold caucuses"they"d hold primaries. The states would have symmetric rules.

Hillary *doesn"t* include the caucus states in her popular vote total"she *excludes* them; so much for having every vote "count."

Obama wouldn"t have blown off late states were the delegate count closer, and esp. were popular vote the metric. Clinton wouldn"t have blow off early caucus states as much. But because neither of those was true, you can"t extrapolate from what did happen to what would have happed under different conditions.

You can"t determine the winner of a baseball game by trying to extrapolate from the results of a football game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 06/02/2008

I don't recall ever seeing a POTUS nominee losing so many primaries down the stretch.

It's just more proof of what is going to happen to Obama in November. It's just a matter of how much he is going to lose by.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 06/02/2008
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Queen Hillary will promise them everything and delivery them nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 06/02/2008
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Puerto Rico has spoken! The road to the White House goes through Puerto Rico. ¡Déme esta elección maldita o usted es un cerdo sexista!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 06/02/2008
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Bless her heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 06/02/2008

Ho-humm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 06/02/2008
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The Puerto Rico turnout was PATHETIC. They expected 70% turnout and it was about 20%.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 06/02/2008
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Hillary and company spent how many days there????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 06/02/2008

Smile Hillary. Now look surprised, just like you recognized someone in the audience you know but are shocked they are there (even though you know no one there), and then clap, point, clap, point. And don't forget the constant head nodding like you are agreeing with someone who just said we have an energy problem. Perfect. Now on with your speech about how a black man who has a white hating pastor cannot be elected - but use the code phrases of course, the same as you have during this entire campaign. And make it good because it is not just for today - it is for the McCain campaign ads too. If you get tired, just push yourself. Remember, 2012 is going to be here before you know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 06/02/2008

I thought it was just me who found that pointing (look surprised to see someone) and smile wide eyed. SO predictible, so phony, so irrritating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 06/02/2008

Nope - not just you. The majority of states, voters, pledged delegates and superdelegates all agree that clinton is all flim-flam

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 06/02/2008


The truth is, the Dems have two of the greatest candidates for president in recent history.

The truth is, the only real number that Clinton can cling to right now, is the popular vote. And, right or wrong, that number does not accurately portray the actual number of votes that would have been cast for Obama. There is simply no way of proving, under the circumstances, how many votes he or she may (or may not) have accumulated had they campaigned in those states, or if his name were actually on the ballot (Michigan).

So why is it so hard to understand that this argument doesn't hold any water. The numbers cannot be proven. It's not as if there is anything to steal here, there has been no injustice done by one candidate to the other, it is not some plot to rule out the votes of a selected group of Americans, it's just a fact... there is no way to tell.
One thing we can say is that it is very close... that's it.

But someone is going to lose.

So please, quit with the playground talk and rock throwing and get behind our candidate, and move this thing to the next level.

It's about time to put the emotions aside and come to grips with what is going on, so both of our visionary candidates are not left in the dust, leaving us all wondering what the hell we were thinking about eight years down the road.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 06/02/2008
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If this was the case why is McCain leading or close in every poll, even close in Blue State?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 06/02/2008

Simple !
BIG BROTHER'S RIGHT HAND--THE MEDIA--
IS FIXING THE RESULTS;
THE WAY THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE:
LOOK AT THE SEND-UP TO THE IRAQ WAR;
OR DO YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD UP YOUR A-S
AND
NOT SEE IT ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 06/02/2008

He isn't, but don't let the facts stop you from making an argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 06/02/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 AM on 06/02/2008

in4sucess,

Thanks for that!!!!

It's amazing that she is allowed to mislead the public with her popular vote argument. This crazed idea will only create resentment since there are alot of supporters out there who'll believe the BS that she dishes them!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 06/02/2008
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The voter turnout was poor
Hillary did not get the votes she wanted
And Hillary will never concede

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 06/02/2008

Please read the Vanity Fair article (on Huffpo) about Bill Clinton.
Then send it to everyone you know.
The Clintons think the popular vote in Iowa shouldn't count while Puerto Rico should?
They will not give up.

We need to stop them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 AM on 06/02/2008
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She kikced his ass! Their was never a primary for the democratic nomination in Puerto Rico, turm out was a record! RECORD TURNOUT in PUERTO RICO PRIMARY! CLINTON CRUSHES OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!! He Is a loser!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 06/02/2008
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Stop whining... Please it's becoming synonymous for clinton

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 06/02/2008

Obama has many loyal and loving supporters. There are millions of them, and they comprise 35% of the electorate, and always will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 06/02/2008

Yes. I agree 100%, though 35% is a bit generous, but still in the ball park.

the problem is that Obama's supporters don't seem to understand that to win in November he'll have to get the swing votes. The moderate votes.

Right now they're labeling mods as being: stupid, racist, or both.

Not very good strategy. But what can one do with such hubris?

I'm eating a lot of popcorn in November. It's going to be fricking Verdi opera. Hahahaha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 06/02/2008
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stop projecting

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 06/02/2008

If you think the people that have recently been branded racist and/or stupid are moderates, think again. Those nimrods in Kentucky and West Virginia that fit that bill never have and never will vote for any presidential nominee that represents any sort of change. Those people are firmly rooted in the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 06/02/2008

Wait until Michelle's rumored rant against whitey at Trinity Church comes out. That 35% is likely to dwindle, and FAST!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 06/02/2008
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*rumored* fail

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 AM on 06/02/2008

It is not rumored and it is not a rant. Quit believing everything you hear on Fox, the WWE of TV News.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 AM on 06/02/2008

Wait until Bill's problems come out in Vanily Fair.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 AM on 06/02/2008

LOL! Do you think if such a thing existed that it wouldn't be all over FAUX News??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 06/02/2008
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Yes, Hilary won PR...

with a 20% voter turnout...

(yawn) I'm going to bed now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 06/02/2008
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