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McCain Hell-Bent On Getting Iraq Wrong Again And Again

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June 3, 2008 10:40 AM


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It's gotten to the point where just about any time John McCain takes the cake opens his ethanol-hole to talk about Iraq, you can count on the man getting it wrong like the day is long. An object example was seen yesterday afternoon, when the cable news network briefly peeked in on McCain disseminating some of that patented Straight Talk. Check out the straight-up junk the man is selling on the stump:

So, the war in Iraq has been long and hard and tough and the sacrifice that's been made by brave young Americans has broken all of our hearts. And we know that the war was terribly mismanaged for nearly four years.

Of course, characterizing the problems in Iraq as one of mismanagement is to miss the point entirely. The underlying strategy, that we can defeat al Qaeda by attacking somebody else and launching a lengthy, needless, impossible to manage occupation that only exacerbates the lunatic tensions of regional terrorists, is what's at fault. Adding a billion more troops to the conflagration and expecting enhanced results is the primary fallacy of McCain's thinking.

And I stood up and was called disloyal by Republicans and attacked by Democrats, Republicans, and others because I said that strategy didn't work. And I advocated this new strategy, which obviously, according to news reports, that casualties and deaths are at the lowest point since literally the beginning.

Of course, the primary driver in the reduction of Iraqi casualties was the removal of targets of opportunity through a sustained campaign of sectarian cleansing, which we allowed to happen and which has fueled a huge refugee problem in Iraq.

And the success is remarkable. We now have control. Basically the Iraqi government has control of Mosul, Baghdad and Basra, the three major cities in Iraq.

You call this success? Now is a pretty bad time to be betting on Nouri al-Maliki, my friends. And it's funny that McCain should bring up Basra, which has been the setting for no end of un-straight talk. Where we last left things in Basra, Sadr was running game, and the Iraqi security forces needed the U.S. Military to "take the lead" in restoring order.

I think General Petraeus would tell you that even though we've had these significant gains, we have to solidify them. And he's going to come back in July, when our -- when our drawdown from the surge, three of the five brigades are already back. There's two more brigades that will be coming back the end of July. The Marines have come back, and there's still some support troops there. But we are drawing back down from the surge. And then in July he said that he wants to pause and he wants to evaluate the situation, and then apparently -- and I say -- emphasize apparently, he may be optimistic about further troop withdrawals.

What McCain is endorsing here is basically more of the Bush approach to this war, where the White House constantly 1) emphasizes how much success the operation is having, 2) bitch about how no one in the media covers the good news, but nevertheless 3) all signs of discernible success nevertheless indicate that the occupation must go on and on and on.

Also: isn't this a timetable? Isn't McCain letting the terrorists know when our brigades are leaving, when the heroic Petraeus "pause" will begin? Will it aid and comfort the enemy to learn that "the Marines have come back?"

But the key to it, my friends, the real important thing, is not so much American presence as it is American casualties. And I'm happy to tell you that they are down. One casualty is too many. One casualty is too many.

Well, if the "key" to this whole thing is "American casualties" (and I imagine that there are plenty of perfectly nice Iraqis who would insist that there are other "keys"), and if "one casualty is too many," then I can only think of one course of action!

But the significant success that we've had is due to the incredible bravery of the young men and women who are serving there.

Having refused to back the G.I. Bill, our brave young men should keep in mind that once they are back Stateside, John McCain's got nothin' fo' ya, man.

And let me just explain to you very briefly, if I could, if we withdraw. If we had done what Senator Obama wanted done, and the troops were -- are going to be withdrawn and probably would have been according to a timetable, what happens?

Oh, so timetables are only bad when Barack Obama asks for one.

...what happens? The Iranian influence increases.

The increase of Iranian influence can correctly be seen as a foreseeable outcome of invading Iraq in the first place.

Then there's chaos.

Chaos can correctly be seen as a foreseeable outcome of invading Iraq in the first place.

Then there's more fighting amongst different militias and jihadists.

This sort of sectarian strife has been present in Iraq since the British occupied the country, and can correctly be seen as a foreseeable outcome of invading Iraq in the first place.

And al Qaeda establishes a base, and sooner or later we would be back with greater loss and greater sacrifice.

Do I even need to point out that al Qaeda becoming a presence in Iraq can correctly be seen as a foreseeable outcome of invading Iraq in the first place? Insofar as a puny version of al Qaeda has surfaced there, the historical record shows that they emerged as a by-product of our invasion. That's why they have this special little name, "al Qaeda in Iraq." Anyway, there's simply no reason in the world that the U.S. should tolerate the existence of an "al Qaeda base" in Iraq, and such a base is easily destroyed whether we occupy the country or not.

Now, if we succeed, if we succeed, we can reduce Iranian influence.

But other than the use of his magical, wishful thinking, McCain does not have a plan to reduce Iran's influence! Iran has friendly, open relationships with the al Maliki government. When al Maliki failed to quell the fighting in Basra, the cease-fire agreement that finally did was brokered by Iran. And, naturally, one should expect Iraq's Shiite majority to be favorably predisposed to Iran. And vice-versa. So, an increase in Iranian influence is a fact of life. And McCain's only counter? Never talk to Iran - which only shuts the United States out of the conversation that Iran and Iraq are already having - and maybe bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb them, which, at a time when "ordinary Iranians' affection for the United States seems to be thriving," makes it so the most generous way to describe McCain's Iran policy is "mindblowingly stupid."

[WATCH.]

MCCAIN: So, the war in Iraq has been long and hard and tough and the sacrifice that's been made by brave young Americans has broken all of our hearts. And we know that the war was terribly mismanaged for nearly four years. And I stood up and was called disloyal by Republicans and attacked by Democrats, Republicans, and others because I said that strategy didn't work. And I advocated this new strategy, which obviously, according to news reports, that casualties and deaths are at the lowest point since literally the beginning. And the success is remarkable. We now have control. Basically the Iraqi government has control of Mosul, Baghdad and Basra, the three major cities in Iraq. So, it's been a great sacrifice that we've made. And at that time as you may recall, I said that I'd much rather lose a political campaign than lose a war. And we still have a long way to go, my friends. I think General Petraeus would tell you that even though we've had these significant gains, we have to solidify them. And he's going to come back in July, when our -- when our drawdown from the surge, three of the five brigades are already back. There's two more brigades that will be coming back the end of July. The Marines have come back, and there's still some support troops there. But we are drawing back down from the surge. And then in July he said that he wants to pause and he wants to evaluate the situation, and then apparently -- and I say -- emphasize apparently, he may be optimistic about further troop withdrawals. But the key to it, my friends, the real important thing, is not so much American presence as it is American casualties. And I'm happy to tell you that they are down. One casualty is too many. One casualty is too many. But the significant success that we've had is due to the incredible bravery of the young men and women who are serving there. And let me just explain to you very briefly, if I could, if we withdraw. If we had done what Senator Obama wanted done, and the troops were -- are going to be withdrawn and probably would have been according to a timetable, what happens? The Iranian influence increases. Then there's chaos. Then there's more fighting amongst different militias and jihadists. And al Qaeda establishes a base, and sooner or later we would be back with greater loss and greater sacrifice. Now, if we succeed, if we succeed, we can reduce Iranian influence. We can have a functioning democracy, and I would recall to you that Saddam Hussein was one of the most brutal and evil people that ever inhabited this earth. And I'm glad he's gone. And I'm glad the Iraqi people have a chance for -- to live in a free and open society.
 
 

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- wheelskeepturning See Profile I'm a Fan of wheelskeepturning

I bet you will never show a "MAD" picture of Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 06/04/2008
- hypnus See Profile I'm a Fan of hypnus

Right next to the "Cracker Barrel - This Exit !" sign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 06/04/2008
- hypnus See Profile I'm a Fan of hypnus

Back when I was a boy, the Middle East was just called, The Desert. A desert is some place that doesn"t have much water. Now, back in Nam, we had plenty of water because Nam was in Southeast Asia, which at the time was called, Southeast Asia. Now I was shot down over a lake, a big lake and landed right in the drink, that"s what they call it when your ass hits the water, landing in the drink. So, this war we have in the desert has been mismanaged. You would almost think my old friend Charles Keating was running it. You know it wasn"t a lot of fun being up in front of the Senate Ethics Committee. Poor Judgement is what they said I had excersised. Now this thing on Iraq¦where was I again¦..?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 06/04/2008
- drblack See Profile I'm a Fan of drblack

McCain wants to attack Iran. If you really want the USA to be weak. If you want to vote for a party that supports the idea that the Constitution is "Just a goddamn piece of paper" as Bush says.
McCain will take your Freedom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 06/04/2008
- SouthPrairie See Profile I'm a Fan of SouthPrairie

It was unbelievable to me the pathetic coverage of Obama"s momentous win. And to consider the fact that both McCain and Clinton have been whining about how Obama has had biased coverage. PATHETIC! All I could see was a narcissistic Clinton making it all about her (probably to garner more donations to offset her 20 million dollar debt to her) and McCain who tried to convince Americans that HE was an agent of change. Again"Pathetic! This was an historical occurrence that America will never see again in the near future and the PATHETIC PUNDITS got it wrong as usual. Pathetic.

Oh yeah, hail to the tone-deaf former first lady and the bomb, bomb Iran guy is just what we want to talk about tonight. This would not be the case if it was Clinton whining"I mean"winning. The media has implicitly maligned Obama again and again. Pathetic

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 06/04/2008
- mercuryguy See Profile I'm a Fan of mercuryguy

McCain looks scary and freaky when angry in that pic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 06/03/2008
- Americanium See Profile I'm a Fan of Americanium

I hope that McCain picture makes it to a bill board on I-75.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 06/03/2008
- SouthPrairie See Profile I'm a Fan of SouthPrairie

To those of you who support Senator John McCain, remember Bush's "Bring it on!" moment. Then consider McCain's, "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb-bomb Iran!" moment, referencing the Beach Boys. Consider what it morally means to support a person who would take the horrors of war in such a mocking, sarcastic way. Is this REALLY the man you want in charge of our weary troops? Or would you rather have someone who is arguing for a halt to designating our soldiers who are victims of post traumatic stress diagnosed as having "personality disorders" in order to same $$ for our government that lied them into the war in the first place.

I would argue that there is a MORAL element to this presidential election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 06/03/2008
- egal See Profile I'm a Fan of egal

If we're talking lives, there's a huge moral element. Of course, most of the casualties (death, suicide, and otherwise, on all sides if there really are "sides") "can correctly be seen as a foreseeable outcome of invading Iraq in the first place,"

but apparently there's no need for anyone but Obama to plan to give returning soldiers and Veterans what they need and have more than earned because McCain inherently supports the troops even though he has supported cutting their funding in oh so many ways. Like, who needs to keep up with inflation in troop salaries when 70% of military families are on food stamps? And who needs better medical and mental health care with so many returning injured and PTSD sufferers? How this man can look in the mirror, I'll never know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 AM on 06/04/2008
- XME See Profile I'm a Fan of XME

Very good (and important) point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 06/04/2008
- mamacat See Profile I'm a Fan of mamacat

What is the difference between drawing down our presence in a foreign country a year ago, as opposed to doing it a year from now, when Barack is the president?

The difference is maybe a thousand more dead Americans, untold more dead Iraqis, and a maybe another $400 billion that we are in debt to the Chinese for. But, hey, other than that, the surge is working just great.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 06/03/2008
- Liberoservative See Profile I'm a Fan of Liberoservative

"Now, if we succeed, if we succeed, we can reduce Iranian influence."

Which is why Maliki is planning his second trip to Iran? Pfft!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 06/03/2008
- EggZacktly See Profile I'm a Fan of EggZacktly

John McCain wants to surrender to the terrorists, his intention is to keep giving them exactly what they want---endless war in the ME that helps al Qaida rally and train more terrorists. Osama bin Laden said quite plainly that the reason he staged terrorist attacks on the US was to draw us into war so he could do to us what he did to the Soviet Union--break our economy and decimate our military. The McCain proposal to draw down by 2013 is a timeline, funny how Democratic timelines are surrender but Republic timelines are not. The McCain/Bush prosecution of the occupation calls for us to develop our strategy based on the events on the ground which are directed by Iran and al Qaida in Iraq, a complete surrender of our foreign policy to our enemies. The terrorists see how easily the conservatives can be led around by their noses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 06/03/2008
- gintheb See Profile I'm a Fan of gintheb

Maybe it's me, but i don't care if Iraq has a free and open society or their women get to go to school or they get electricity or whatever the arguments are for maintaing a US presence there. If they want those things, let them work it out. It is not worth one more US soldier's death or traumatic brain injury or case of PTSD. We never should have gone in in the 1st place and we've done all that we can do. Let's get our troops out of iraq via a planned draw down, bring them home and take of them propoerly like the heroes and sheroes they are. The iraqis can do what they want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 06/03/2008
- Stirner See Profile I'm a Fan of Stirner

Yes, right you are. Charles Dickens termed it "telescopic philanthropy". Once President Wilson gave this missionary-minded nation a political goal (no longer spreading Jesus but spreading
"Democracy") we have been engaged in constant war. The "War against Bad Things" will likely go until the end of the U.S., and it is the esssential "national ideal" -- and when that goes, the nation goes. Be assured that for the rest of our lives, T.V. and the mailman will continue to use yoiur guilt to provoke you to send more money, more troops, more of what is yours, to whatever is in "need". Charity, as enforced taxation, will, as the poor, be always with us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 06/04/2008
- blueskybigstar See Profile I'm a Fan of blueskybigstar

Where on earth did you get that picture of McCain? I'm sure there are a lot of those.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 06/03/2008
- phal4875 See Profile I'm a Fan of phal4875

How can all you folks who are commenting not see the genius hidden so deeply in Senator John McCain? In a class of 899, he managed to obtain a G.P.A. better than that of five people, and these might not have been stupid people, either. Finishing 894th out of 899 is merely evidence that he was not wasting his brain on thinking. His brain is nearly unused and will blossom when he is our president.

That strange face he made and the singing comment about bombing Iraq were purely for effect. He wants Iran to think he is irrational, filled with anger, and someone who is a bit slow mentally. John McCain has me convinced, and I am an American, not someone who lives in a hot, sandy land like Iran. The fact that McCain has sworn at or threatened senators from his own party and that he called his wife a very vulgar name is just part of the crazy act. He is really a scientist with the body of a bantam rooster. He has often been called a rooster by his friends and opponents. Well, it might have been some other bird reference, but close enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 06/03/2008
- Ozymandias See Profile I'm a Fan of Ozymandias

Well , he is coming across as cock-sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 06/03/2008
- rollingdivision See Profile I'm a Fan of rollingdivision

The current conditions in Iraq seem to have been missed by the author.

"Conditions now favor expeditious withdrawal more than they did only a few months ago. But the manner of withdrawal, its pace, and its concomitant diplomacy now require a different cast, and may require an even different one next February and March. None of this means that this war was not a mistake; it does suggest it need not in the medium term be a catastrophe. Petraeus deserves the lion's share of the credit; luck and time and the self-defeating nihilism of the Jihadists have helped. But Bush and McCain equally merit points for pursuing the surge, even though the metrics pointed to failure." Andrew Sullivan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 06/03/2008
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