Obama's Debt To Harold Ickes

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First Posted: 06- 3-08 02:30 AM   |   Updated: 06-10-08 05:12 AM

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Barack Obama stands on the brink of capturing the presidential nomination in large part because of Democratic Party reforms initiated by the civil rights and anti-war movements of the 1960s -- movements in which Hillary Clinton's top strategist, Harold Ickes, was a key player.

When Obama was barely three, Ickes took part in Mississippi Freedom Summer, helping the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party send a primarily black delegation to the 1964 national convention in Atlantic City.

After the Freedom Democratic delegation was denied seating by the virtually all white male Democratic Party establishment, Ickes -- then 24 -- went on to help organize the party's reformist Harold Hughes Commission, the precursor to the McGovern Commission.

The anger against entrenched power of the old-line Democratic Party intensified, and by 1968, young civil rights, women's rights, and anti-war activists were beaten in the streets of Chicago outside the convention hall, and the protests of dissidents were gaveled down by party bosses on the convention floor. The outrage gave birth to the Democratic Party's Commission on Party Structure and Delegate Selection, aka the McGovern Commission.

Writing in the January 1970 issue of Harper's about the '68 convention, McGovern described the "tumultuous floor debate, bloodshed and tear gas in the streets...it also evokes the image of rigged procedures, a political party assembled to reach predetermined decisions. The convention became the shame of the Democratic Party."

Coming out of the turmoil of the sixties, the 1972 McGovern rules, as they came to be known, radically altered the way Democrats pick their presidential nominees, opening up the political process by mandating proportional inclusion of previously excluded constituencies -- African Americans, voters under 30, and women.

All of the reforms adopted then, and modified over the years, have been in play this year, including the expanded role in party proceedings of blacks, women, and the young; the required use of proportional representation; and superdelegates.

One reform stands out particularly in Obama's march to victory: the much wider use of open caucuses as a key component of the nomination process. Caucuses differ from primaries in that participants must spend many hours in a complex rule-ridden bargaining process that determines how a precinct or ward will allocate its support among the presidential candidates.

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Now, some 36 years after the adoption of the McGovern rules, caucuses as a vehicle for the selection of convention delegates have empowered a key Obama constituency: young and relatively well-educated social-cultural liberals -- just the class of political activists that Ickes and the Clintons came out of and made salient.

In the arcane caucus procedures, with turnout ranging from only two to eight percent of the eligible Democratic electorate (compared to voter participation rates in primaries ranging from 20 to 35 percent), smart and strategically savvy party activists make up a disproportionately large share of participants.

"The caucuses made Obama, there is no doubt about it," argues University of Wisconsin political scientist Byron Shafer, the foremost expert on changes since the 1960s in the Democratic nominating process.

"Caucuses were the preferred institution of the reformers. The argument of the reform theorists was not about the gross bulk of participation, but about the character of the participation," Shafer said. In a primary, "you could go and vote, but it was limited: you pull the lever that was it. In a caucus, it wasn't that turnout would be lower, it was the quality of the turnout was higher."

It would be difficult to overestimate the consequences for Obama of Democratic Party reforms promoting caucuses. If the caucus states were eliminated, Obama would not be the one on the verge of declaring victory.

As of June 2, according to RealClearPolitics, Obama had a 157 delegate vote lead over Clinton, 2072 to 1915.

In the 14 states that picked some or all of their delegates through caucus systems this year, Obama won 400 delegates to Clinton's 193, a 207 delegate advantage that more than accounts for his overall delegate lead.

An analysis (pdf) published on TalkLeft found that total Democratic voter participation in the caucus states amounted to 1.1 million people, compared to the 32.4 million voters in Democratic primaries, a ratio of 30 to one. Caucus participants made up 3.2 percent of the total of 33.5 million primary voters and caucus goers combined.

In contrast to the relatively close results in most primary states, Obama won many of the caucus states by huge margins, often substantially exceeding 60 percent. As a consequence, he piled up large numbers of delegates in the relatively low turnout contests.

The TalkLeft analysis noted that Clinton won 11 more delegates than Obama in the New Jersey primary, which she won by 112,128 votes, while Obama won 12 more delegates than Clinton in the Idaho caucuses which he won by 13,225 votes. Similarly, Clinton netted 12 delegates by winning the Pennsylvania primary by 214,115 votes, while Obama came out ahead by 14 delegates by winning the Kansas caucuses by 17,710 votes.

Charles Stewart III of MIT did a separate analysis of primaries and caucuses with results similar to those of the Talk Left study, finding that in primary states, Clinton won 1,557.5 delegates, 16 more delegates than Obama's 1,521.5. In caucus states, Stewart found, Obama won 366 delegates, or 191 more than Clinton's 175.

In private, a number of Clinton strategists now acknowledge that they made a disastrous, if not fatal, mistake in failing to recognize the profound impact of the caucuses on the delegate count.

"We just thought we'd win the primaries, and the caucuses would follow along," one key Clinton strategist said. "It's on the top of the list of things we'd like to do over."

Barack Obama stands on the brink of capturing the presidential nomination in large part because of Democratic Party reforms initiated by the civil rights and anti-war movements of the 1960s -- movemen...
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Sounds like Ickes was once a man of principle.

How things have changed. Now he's doing Hillary's dirty work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 06/07/2008
- ccrnjr I'm a Fan of ccrnjr 2 fans permalink

The country is in a quagmire in Iraq, unemployment is up, gasoline is more than $3 a gallon, people are dying from lack of medical coverage, etc. Can we have more articles on the real issues and less talk about peoples egos. This election is about our future. Let's have more news on policy, issues, news from the warzone, discussions on getting this country out of the mess it is in. I like the Huffington Post, but it is becoming too much of a soap opera here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 06/06/2008
- jogger I'm a Fan of jogger 8 fans permalink

Well said. Enough of this nonsense. This country is in bad shape. We (The Dems) have a great nominee. It's not about what Obama owes Ickes, i'ts about Ickes and the rest of us rolling up our sleeves and getting behind Obama and doing what's right for our party and our country...today!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 06/07/2008

Oprah as VP! Oprah as VP!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 06/06/2008
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He certainly owes Harold Ickes for being such a shill. If Ickes had not voted to strip Michigan and Florida of their delegates, we wouldn't have all this rancour amid the ranks.

Sheesh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 06/05/2008

This post is annoying. Why is it that anytime a black man accomplishes something, the credit has to be given to some white guy? Quite frankly, Barack Obama owes no more to Harold Ickes than to any other Democratic Party apparatchik from the last few decades. If we're going to engage in the tiresome exercise of choosing one figure whose shoulders Obama stands on, the obvious choice would be Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 06/05/2008
- myskylark I'm a Fan of myskylark 13 fans permalink

You are really an idiot. When Harold Ickes was in Mississippi working for Africa-American civil rights and voter rights, he was beaten almost to death by a white mob. You damned ingrate. There were white people who died for the rights of Barack Obama. How dare you deny them their place in the history of the civil rights movement. Obama stands on their shoulders too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 06/07/2008

I place my trust in people based on what they are doing in the present, not the past. If I relied on Robert Byrd based on what he did in the past, I would be in bed with the KKK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 06/05/2008
- QBlogger I'm a Fan of QBlogger 4 fans permalink

Obama owes Ickes no more than the thousands of others that formed the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party. It's not to diminishe Ickes contribution to the movement, but say Obama owes him anything more than recognition and congenial respect, is a dead horse. Remember, Ickes attempted to violate the Rules and avert the history that was just made. Aside from what I noted, Obama owes Ickes nothing and definitely not a place in his cabinet.

Give the position of the articles author, all Black people should kiss Ickes feet. How dare the plight and struggle of Blacks be trivalized that this one person be owed so much. Who is Ickes in relation to Blacks that actually lived in Mississppi and started the MDFP? Despite the oppression of those Blacks, they pushed for inclusion on the national level. Ickes may have contributed, but the sufferers of the Oppression are the ones most deserving of Obama's acknowledgement. All Blacks and every person in the world should do so.

To Ickes, nothing more should be mentioned or given. He worked for Clinton and from them should he seek his reward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 06/05/2008
- atombee I'm a Fan of atombee 2 fans permalink
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My father was called a you-know-what-lover in Piedmont, CA sixty or seventy years ago. I was called the same in Oakland in the early sixties. I raised my two sons to look at the person, never the color of the skin. One of them runs a successful hip-hop label now - i've had rappers grab my hand and not let go and tell me how great my son is over and over. (well, both sons are in my opinion).

I'd like to take some credit, as well as Ickes and tens of thousands of others who have worked to do something positive about race relations in our country. I am very proud of our country right now.

But I don't think we should take credit for Obama.

Barack Obama is the first politician my sons have ever been excited about. And it is joy to see, because I wasn't sure our country would ever produce a man of real vision again.

Obama has energized my son's generation and has given them hope for our shared future. I didn't do that. Ickes didn't do that.

Barack Obama did that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 06/06/2008
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Very well said!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 06/07/2008
- suntzu I'm a Fan of suntzu 15 fans permalink

To imply that Obama would not have won if there were no caucuses, only primaries, is ridiculous. Obama won because his team understood the differences between caucuses and primaries and exploited that difference. Clinton's team did not, even with Ickes on it. Obama's team were better students of the system, better strategists, better managed, better financed, and had a better message. That was the difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 06/04/2008
- Jaradan I'm a Fan of Jaradan 6 fans permalink

Puerto Rico was supposed to be a caucus. Hillary made them change it to primary...and the rest is history. Stuff ballots much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 06/05/2008

And she did not get nearly as much votes as she wanted. HA HA HA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 06/05/2008
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And their base was even more fired up and ready to go to a sweaty gym for 5-10 hours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 06/05/2008
- SharonB I'm a Fan of SharonB 13 fans permalink

And now both Ickes and Hillary have become what they most hated back then... the established, same old-same old, self-entitlement motivated, secretive, and hypocritic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 06/04/2008
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 221 fans permalink
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Kinda like Israel and the Palestinians.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 AM on 06/05/2008
- TRYKER I'm a Fan of TRYKER 67 fans permalink

Yes, isn't that the craziest flip flop of the century?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 06/05/2008

I did not know I needed to caucus until two weeks before my state voted, I was always an absentee sorta guy. . But then I wised up real fast.

Another thing that helped was that when Obama came out my state and I heard his stump speech he told everyone to caucus!
So it was reinforced even if I did know about it before hand.

Good article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 06/05/2008

What does Obama owe him?

Maybe you want Senator Obama to say " sorry Harold, I forgot you where a Freedom Rider, I'll just quit and give it Hillary" I mean common!!! Are you saying Obama should give the nomination to Hillary because Harold Ickes did the right thing when he was young.

For that matter Joe Lieberman was a Freedom Rider maybe we should reinstate his membership and let him be the Democratic presidential candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 06/04/2008
- lizr I'm a Fan of lizr 221 fans permalink
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it's just a dumb guilt trip on Obama from another person having trouble facing reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 06/05/2008
- ginnypoo I'm a Fan of ginnypoo 7 fans permalink

Obama was given 59 delegates he DID NOT EARN, he wasn't even on the ballot, his own choice, and it is overstepping their authority to do such a thing. They said it would be overstepping during the meeting, several times, then did it anyway. It fixed the election for Obama. It killed democracy...no voter can ever trust that their vote will stay where it was cast. The DNC RBC can now move votes to literally anyone they want, even people not on the ballot. It is unAmercian and undemocratic. It cannot stand or democracy no longer exists. Harold is just the guy to stand up to this sort of criminal ruling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 06/04/2008
- Jaradan I'm a Fan of Jaradan 6 fans permalink

Hillary didn't EARN her delegates, either. The elections were invalid. Btw, Obama didn't get credit for the 30,000 write-in votes for him. Your argument is silly. Go suck on your sour grapes somewhere else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 06/05/2008
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Your argument has been proven to be boneheaded at least 100 times already on these pages. Can't you read?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 06/05/2008

He wasn't on the ballot because all the parties involved, including two-faced Hillary, agreed that Michigan's primary would not count. Now that they don't like the results, they are changing their tune.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 06/05/2008

EVERY SINGLE OTHER CANDIDATE in Michigan took his name off the ballot except Hillary. So, you're saying that Edwards, Kucinich, Biden, Richardson, Obama all just made some arbitrary choice to take their names off, while Hillary kept hers on the ballot for the good of Michiganders? Please. There's nothing wrong with supporting Hillary Clinton. But a person loses credibility when she resorts to lying, cheating and refusing to accept defeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 06/05/2008
- myskylark I'm a Fan of myskylark 13 fans permalink

You're wrong. Kucinich stayed on the ballot too. Why the hell don't you jerks ever get your facts right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 06/07/2008
- TRYKER I'm a Fan of TRYKER 67 fans permalink

ginnypoo

I get the poo part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 06/05/2008

Like too many young idealists, Harold Ickes has become the very thing he waged war against as a young man - an entrenched power monger who lives to win at any cost and justifies his acts through situational ethics dressed up in ersatz moral outrage.

He may have helped establish the caucus system way back when, but this year he was part of the Clinton cabal that has sniffily dismissed caucuses when his candidate couldn't win them.

As a member of the DNC rules committee, he voted last fall to strip Florida and Michigan of their votes - when he thought Hillary was a lock. Then he was outraged at the prospect of "disenfranchising" voters in those states, even though those tallies were taken as many voters stayed home because they were told their votes wouldn't count. And he doesn't display a trace of irony about the fact that Hillary's proclaimed "popular vote" totals have the effect of disenfranchising all of the caucus states.

He's Col. Reynaud in the Clinton's version of "Casablanca."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 06/04/2008

"If the caucus states were eliminated, Obama would not be the one on the verge of declaring victory."

It is time to end these absurd, useless arguments. Eliminate certain states? Did you really just type that? Did you really just suggest that certain states count and others don't? I could write a book about how things would be different if Florida was eliminated in 2000--but what would that prove? Nothing. It didn't happen.

Faulty assumptions also exasperate me. Do you really think if caucus states had primaries instead, that Obama would have done *nothing* differently? Ridiculous! Obama won the nomination because of his superior organizing skills and understanding of the inner workings of the Democratic primary. Had those states been primaries, he would have campaigned differently there. Of course he would have. He may have won or lost--who knows? It's irrelevant. And now that the general election campaign has begun, he will again campaign and organize differently in those states--in all states.

It's too bad that Ickes didn't share his intimate knowledge of how caucuses work with his client, Sen. Clinton. Maybe it's not that Obama should thank Ickes--but that Clinton should give him an earful!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 06/04/2008

The rules committee meetng should should be voided. Parlimentary rules indicate the chairman should recuse themselves if they have a conflict of interest, Alexis Herman was an aide in the Clinton administraion and questoned regarding a conlict of influence. She was later completely exonerated. This violation was bypassed in haste? to complete the session. Clinton lost delegates both in Michigan and FVlorida which had a drastic efect on the delegate count, The credentials commitee should take this gross oversight ino consideration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 06/04/2008
- londongal I'm a Fan of londongal 6 fans permalink

Mr. Edsall: Obama owes Ickes absolutely NOTHING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 06/04/2008
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 69 fans permalink
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Exactly! LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 06/04/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 144 fans permalink

Agree!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 06/06/2008
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