Toll Brothers Reports $93.7 Million Loss

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - Toll Brothers Reports $93.7 Million Loss stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

DEBORAH YAO | June 3, 2008 04:25 PM EST | AP

Compare other versions »
I Like ItI Don’t Like It
Shown is a partial finished home at a Toll Brothers development in Chalfont, Pa., Tuesday, June 3, 2008. Toll Brothers says hefty write-downs on the value of land joint ventures drove the luxury homebuilder to a second-quarter loss, but results topped Wall Street expectations. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)

PHILADELPHIA — Luxury-home builder Toll Brothers Inc. on Tuesday posted a second-quarter loss that was smaller than Wall Street expected, as a hefty write-down driven by joint ventures was offset by other income.

Shares of Toll Brothers rose 64 cents, or 3.1 percent, to $21.60.

Chief Executive Robert Toll said demand continues to be weak in most markets as buyers stay skittish in the face of continued home price declines.

In a conference call with analysts, Toll also noted that investment funds have been showing interest in buying distressed properties. They're willing to partner with people in the housing industry in these purchases, providing even 80 to 90 percent of the capital.

But Toll said if their investment doesn't perform, then they might try to dump the homes _ and in so doing prolong the housing downturn.

"We've been outbid by the players that have raised the funds for this specific purpose. I hope everything works out for them," Toll said. "But if it doesn't, you may see this (investment) prolongs for quite a bit of time the problems that we've got."

Toll Brothers itself will continue to offer incentives to get people to buy homes _ a concession uncharacteristic of the builder that speaks to the severity of the housing market.

But Deutsche Bank analyst Nishu Sood said the builder should more aggressively discount because "by holding prices the company is just delaying the inevitable as prices are unlikely to revisit boom time levels for a prolonged period."

Story continues below
advertisement

The company hasn't written off as much as other builders, and as such has a higher share of these charges to come, he wrote in a research note.

For the period ended April 30, Horsham, Pa.-based Toll reported a loss of $93.7 million, or 59 cents per share, compared with a year-ago profit of $36.7 million, or 22 cents per share.

The quarter included a pretax write-down of $288.1 million, which included $85 million from joint ventures with other builders on land development.

Toll also posted $40.2 million in gains from a property condemnation process, in which municipalities compensate landowners for taking their parcels to develop parks and other projects.

Without these charges and gain, Toll earned $81.3 million, or 49 cents per share, compared with $109.6 million, or 66 cents, a year ago.

Revenue fell 30 percent to $818.8 million from $1.17 billion last year.

Analysts surveyed by Thomson Financial expected a loss of 89 cents per share including charges on sales of $818.5 million.

Net contracts, an indication of future business, fell by 58 percent to $496.5 million in the quarter from a year ago. Cancellations totaled $234.1 million, down from $274.7 million last year.

The average home price on net contracts fell to $534,000 from $710,000 in 2007's second quarter.

Geographically, sales fell 45 percent in the southern states of Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas and Texas. The mid-Atlantic, covering Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia and West Virginia, declined by 39 percent. The west, comprising California, Arizona, Colorado and Nevada, was down 28 percent.

Toll's northern region of New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Illinois, Massachusetts, Michigan and Minnesota fell 3.3 percent.

Net contracts fell 79 percent in the north, 62 percent in the west, 44 percent in the mid-Atlantic and 31 percent in the south. But the housing meltdown isn't affecting Manhattan, where Toll said homes have temporarily sold out.

The company said the quarter's backlog of homes ordered but not yet delivered totaled $2.08 billion, down 50 percent year-over-year.

PHILADELPHIA — Luxury-home builder Toll Brothers Inc. on Tuesday posted a second-quarter loss that was smaller than Wall Street expected, as a hefty write-down driven by joint ventures was offse...
PHILADELPHIA — Luxury-home builder Toll Brothers Inc. on Tuesday posted a second-quarter loss that was smaller than Wall Street expected, as a hefty write-down driven by joint ventures was offse...
Filed by Katherine Thomson  |  Report Corrections
 
Comments
14
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
- JScott I'm a Fan of JScott 20 fans permalink

Read the comments to the entries about the link from 60 min.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 06/03/2008
- studlyguy I'm a Fan of studlyguy 9 fans permalink

Yes they had it good for so many years ,that adjusting their lifestyle is going to be difficult from the millions of profits from the over priced homes to the depression era real price will see in the coming years,it will even be a difficult transition for them also,my heart breaks being sarcastic,what goes up ALWAYS will come crashing back 10 times worse as much as it went up ,so the higher it went ,the more it will crash to the low end,GREED IS NOT GOOD AFTER ALL,who would have thunk it,I'm shocked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 06/03/2008
- JScott I'm a Fan of JScott 20 fans permalink

This was from 60 Minutes in 11/05 with Toll Bros pres.:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=49750&cl=2164907&ch=334515&src=news

Heres the rest of the same 60 min story with clips:

http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/50/living_large_real_estate_dreams

To me it's the typical short term corporate thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 06/03/2008

Oh, my goodness. A couple of years ago they probably made 200 million in earnings. Times are really bad for the poor Toll Brothers.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 06/03/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 277 fans permalink
photo

They can write off 93.7 million and keep thier jobs!

If you can't pay a hospital bill in 30 days they will put a lein on your house!!!!!

Now how is that fair???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 06/03/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
photo

Fair is what you make. Don't expect big-brothe­r/Washingt­on to look out for your interests when it's every move is controlled by Wallstreet.

If the masses organized, we could change all of this but I guess Americans don't want justice or a fair shake in the markets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 06/03/2008
- Sundialsvc4 I'm a Fan of Sundialsvc4 139 fans permalink

I don't particularly feel sorry for the "McMansion" people. I've always regarded their product as being rather pathetic ... something that doesn't belong there, like a dime-store ring in a Tiffany's blue box. A grotesque simulacrum of what a good home should be.

The law does not dictate what sort of product a homebuilder may build, or that a foolish customer may buy, or that a bank may write a loan for. But business common-sense does. Toll Brothers and their ilk have foolishly created their own demise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 06/03/2008

And let's not forget that heating/cooling one of these large homes will cost more and more each year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 06/03/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
photo

A handful of billion-dollar fortresses surrounded by thousands of miles of tent-cities. If you can't imagine it, look at Brazil, Saudi-Arabia and you can see what Washington and their banker puppet-masters have planned for us.

Welcome to the "New America".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 06/03/2008

I was thinking the same thing, that Robert Toll wants congress to help people get into his luxury houses--maybe with more tax breaks for the wealthy folks who are his usual customers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 06/03/2008

Toll Brother homes are way overpriced for what you really get. Yes they have nice floors and beautiful chandeliers and granite in the Kitchen. But people who buy these homes are going to be stunned by their first months electricity bill. Very poor insulation in their homes. When you pay over half a million dollars for a home you'd expect at the very least that your home be wrapped and properly insulated. I've seen homes that are 200K that offer better energy efficiency and better bang for your buck than Toll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 06/03/2008
- JScott I'm a Fan of JScott 20 fans permalink

Well the homes that they build in the LA area are usually a mill+. And they don't stand out in any way from other mill+ homes in other words THE USUAL MCMANSIONS.
And I'm always amazed that folks have a reason to buy em-they show well but really unless you have domestic staff I'm sure they are a chore to clean all the 4000 sq. ft. of house, And yes the aforementioned utility bills. What does this tell you Toll Bros.-you've pretty much tapped all the buyers of your vulgar homes that you're gonna tap.
Time to move on to some other product like middle class affordable homes of sensible size and price eh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 06/03/2008

Please read the statement by Robert I. Toll, LOL funny. He thinks congress should come to his rescue! How can congress jump start demand for new luxury homes??? More tax cuts? Can congress give me $2 million dollars to buy one of the homes? Mr. Toll, you overbuilt, you got filthy rich, now go away! Quit embarassing yourself with stupid statements.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 06/03/2008
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect