Hillary Clinton Running For The Vice Presidency

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First Posted: 06- 5-08 08:18 AM   |   Updated: 06-13-08 05:12 AM

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Hillary Clinton has, in effect, converted her presidential campaign into a bid for the vice presidency, an unprecedented move and a high-risk gamble for a candidate in her position.

Both personally and through intermediaries, in an exceptionally direct appeal for a losing candidate, Clinton has openly signaled her interest in the number two spot - a post once said to be worth less than "a bucket of warm piss."

In an interview with The Washington Post, Clinton supporter and Black Entertainment Television network founder Robert Johnson said Clinton has authorized him and others to persuade Barack Obama to pick her.

"She said if asked to do this, she must accept because she believes that it is in the best interest of the party that the party come together and win in November," Johnson told the Post.

Hillary's approach violates the protocol of avoiding overt appeals normally associated with the vice presidential selection process. Asked how to conduct such a campaign, Jim Jordan, who served as John Kerry's campaign manager, responded "very, very carefully."

Traditionally, those seeking to be chosen by their party's nominee have tried to used more elliptical, methods of signaling their readiness to serve their country.

In 2004, for example, Gen. Wesley K. Clark, immediately upon ending his own bid for the presidency, endorsed John Kerry, telling Kerry's aides that the Massachusetts Senator was "my pick'' early on -- in a message whose meaning everyone understood.

Along similar lines that same year, Don Imus asked John Edwards ''You know, and I know, and everybody knows, you would be willing to take this in a heartbeat, so at what point would you be willing to say that?'' Edwards replied, ''I'm not going to say that on your show.''

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In one of the more bizarre events in the history of vice presidential selection, Mike Gravel, who ran for president this year, nominated himself for vice president at the 1972 Democratic Convention on the ticket with George S. McGovern, losing to Thomas Eagleton, McGovern's choice, 1741.81 to 225.38.

Republican lawyer Ben Ginsberg was dismissive of the Clinton-generated boomlet for herself. "It's such an individual decision by the presidential candidate that it takes a Hillary to do it."

Ron Kaufman, a top aide to former President George H. W. Bush -- who served as Ronald Reagan's vice president for two terms -- said there is one guiding rule that anyone interested in the post should follow: "If you drool, you lose."

Former congressman Jack Kemp in 1980 and 1988 campaigned hard and got nothing. "My old boss [George H.W. Bush] did not worry about it and did whatever the Reagan folks asked him to do, and it all worked out," noted Kaufman. "Gerry Ford's folks, in '80 put on a big campaign for Ford to be 'co-President.' That backfired."

In the more distant past, there were rare occasions when vice presidents were picked in open competition for delegate support at the national conventions.

Former Democratic Party and South Carolina Democratic chairman Don Fowler, who has an encyclopedic memory, noted two cases:

"In 1944, FDR did not want incumbent vice president Henry Wallace to be on the ballot. He left the field open; there was sort of a campaign between Harry Truman and Jimmy Byrnes of South Carolina. Truman won. In 1956, Adlai Stevenson threw open to the convention the selection of the VP. Senator Jack Kennedy ran against C. Estes Kefauver of Tennessee. Kefauver won."

Although it is certainly unusual for a candidate to begin publicly running for vice president before withdrawing from the presidential contest, this may be the moment when Clinton has the most leverage, presenting herself as the one person who could significantly heal the divisions now running deep in the party.

White women, especially older white women, are one of Obama's problematic constituencies and Clinton has done very well among them.

A survey conducted at the end of May by the Pew Research Center on the People and the Press found:

"Hillary Clinton continues to garner the majority of support among some segments of the Democratic base. In particular, 57 percent of white women favor Clinton as the party's nominee, while just 38 percent favor Obama....

"Obama's diminished popularity and support among white women may in part be an indication of a growing backlash against him among Clinton's women supporters. The survey finds that as many 39 percent of Clinton's female supporters believe that her gender has hurt her candidacy. In turn, favorable opinions of Obama have tumbled among women who support Clinton - from 58 percent in March to 43 percent currently."

These findings suggest that Clinton may right now be in the best position she ever will be to make the case that adding her to the ticket offers an opportunity to bring these Democratic voters back to the fold.

As speculation about Clinton's interest in the vice presidency spread, her campaign issued a statement designed to quiet the controversy:

"While Senator Clinton has made clear throughout this process that she will do whatever she can to elect a Democrat to the White House, she is not seeking the vice presidency, and no one speaks for her but her. The choice here is Senator Obama's and his alone."


Hillary Clinton has, in effect, converted her presidential campaign into a bid for the vice presidency, an unprecedented move and a high-risk gamble for a candidate in her position. Both pers...
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I've said it once and I'll say it again; she would be a liability.
Sure I'd like to see a woman win the spot, but not that woman.
She has proven that she doesn't play well with others and is willing to
do anything to get what she wants (possibly even to the detriment of others).

This election is not a remake of the godfather, she (the don) shouldn't be allowed to
strong arm the party into giving her the VP spot.
Besides, we all know it wouldn't be enough for her...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 06/12/2008

Anyone remember how she condescendingly offered him the VP spot on the ticket
when HE was WINNING???
How about her using 17mil voters as the ransom for her getting the VP spot? That is exactly what she did with her speech on Tuesday - make no mistake about it!
He needs someone who has the same ideals he does - and that’s not her. Integrity matters and she does not have any. She’s more liability than asset. Considering her campaign management, the Family baggage, her unethical behavior, I can’t see it working. And think of all the ammunition THAT would give the opposition!
Add to that, her RFK assassination comment, which will NOT be forgotten by November, these things totally rule her out as VP choice.
Her surrogates who are pushing her as the VP need to keep silent about it. They are showing blatant disrespect for our nominee. They are also showing a LOT of disrespect for his voters by inferring that we do not matter. But guess what? WE need to be respected, too! There are many of us who will not vote for a ticket with her name on it. Her speech did nothing to apologize for all the ammunition SHE gave the Republicans against him. That won’t be forgotten just because she gave a good speech.
In addition, her husband comes with the package - and neither one of them would be willing to take a back seat to the President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 06/09/2008
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CTtransplant:

Awww..Did Hillary hurt your feelings?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 06/09/2008
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Memo to HuffPost:

What's with the retroactive censorship, anyway? 4 of my last five post,have either been shelved, or allowed, then withdrawn. What gives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 06/09/2008
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Evan Bayh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 06/09/2008
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VP Clinton?

No thanks. Lets break with this now and move on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 06/09/2008
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Hillary Clinton does not belong anywhere near the White House and yes, write ... "Sen. Dianne Feinstein and ask her to stop pressing Obama to put Hillary on the ticket!"
Feinstein does not belong in the Senate and I, for one, hope that she will be defeated in her next election!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 AM on 06/09/2008

Please write to Sen. Dianne Feinstein and ask her to stop pressing Obama to put Hillary on the ticket!
Dear Senator Dianne Feinstein,
I've been watching on TV your constant push for putting Sen.Hillary Clinton on the Obama ticket and I find it inappropriate and uncalled for. Senator Obama has a platform for change that does not include having a Clinton on the ticket. It would invite all the baggage and drama from the Clintons and it would also make him look weak.
You are putting a lot of pressure on Senator Obama by constantly talking to the press about this issue. Please stop if you really want to help elect Barack Obama. Most Californians now favor him.
I'm a woman from your constituency and you are not representing me or millions of others. I've always been an Obama supporter and did not appreciate both you and Sen. Boxer being so pro Clinton.The polls in California today are clear that even the women who voted for Hillary have moved on to Obama.
I also do not appreciate your constant repetition that she won the popular vote.
I am deeply worried about your representation of millions of women like me that do not approve of what you are doing.
Let Obama decide who he wants to govern with, this is not a forced marriage.
Thank you,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 06/08/2008
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And you might ask her to stop mentioning the assassination of RFK while you're at it. To my amazement, I saw her do today on one of the Sunday shows, while discussing how hard it is to shift gears when the candidate you're supporting isn't running any more (she said she was involved with RFK's presidential run). Seeing her go there was a bad sign, happening at this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 06/09/2008
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KGinSanFrancisco: You are so, so correct. Keep it going. hipo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 06/09/2008
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Hey, you know what would be a great idea? If the Democratic Party took a page out of the Republican playbook and started working against its own senators and representatives that aren't "Obama enough" for the wingnuts that have hijacked the party. Like that comment above, let's work our hardest to get Sen. Feinstein kicked out of Congress, so that her seniority and experience won't be dragging down the person representing California. Who needs all that, right? Especially if she's not towing the new party line. Heck, this idea is so great, I almost can't stand it. I mean, it worked so well for the GOP. Look, you can see the evidence. They sent nothing but neo-cons and evangelicals to Washington, and look how great things have turned out. And I am SURE, nay maybe even POSITIVE, that the Democrats can fix everything wrong with D.C. by doing the exact same thing, in reverse.

So hear the news and harken the trumpets, all ye centrists and moderates. There's no place for your ilk in this new "progressive" Democratic Party. Hand over your positions as congresspersons in heavily Republican areas, because the MoveOn people have someone 10 times as liberal as you are, who everyone in your conservative districts will undoubtedly vote for, since it's a Democratic year. I mean, this is some sound and righteous logic, isn't it?

It worked for the GOP, right?

Democrats: The New Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 06/09/2008

Hillary would be a really bad choice. She earned back quite a bit of respect during her concession speech but now she just needs to go away for a while. 2000 was definitely an election about the Clintons and we don't want 2008 to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 06/08/2008
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No chance of a Hillary place on the ticket...Nightmare scenario

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 06/08/2008
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A Look Back at Campaign ‘08: The True Story of the Democrats’ ‘Color Wars’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1792

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 06/08/2008
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Nooooooooooo!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 06/08/2008

Me too! :-) My comments are as explosive as the Hydrogen bomb. So I clearly understand why they are afraid of the truths I seek to share about what this country does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 06/08/2008

Part 1 of 2 or 3

Imhotep,

Hillary Clinton has two major flaws that make her a bad choice for Barack.

First she showed low morals and ethics when she supported the Iraq invasion which most of you all are just now realizing was a devilish unethical act. I remember the summer when some government agency wanted Bush and Cheney to turn over their financial paperwork to them. They both refused to do so. Then out of the Blue Bush stopped talking about Osama Bin Ladin and began talking about how bad Saddam Hussein was to his country. Right there! I knew something funky was up. they wanted to draw attention away from their financial dealings with people in the Middle East so they began the process of starting a war.

She also is a super feminist! I remember back in 1968 when the movement started, Black men and women marched with them, although their problems with the White man were entirely different from those that African Americans were having.

No matter how bad White women thought they were having things, at the end of the day they still went home to their White husbands, and White children with the big increase in salaries from jobs they had gotten as a result of the White man declaring them a minority in the work place?

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 06/08/2008

part 2 of 2

That was the White mans way of getting around affirmative action which was intended to help out the people who built this country and made it into the richest country in the world by being forced to work for FREE for over 200 years.

Hillary would spend to much time talking about White women who, if they are attractive, have only to attach themselves to a rich and handsome White man. Then they will have a decent life.

She will sweep our issues under the rug to advance those of White women who are already near the top of the pecking order in America.

If they just disagreed on who will win the Belmont, or the world series, or the Super bowl, I would say pick her. Unfortunately, they disagree on things of paramount importance.

He needs to look at Dennis Kucinich. They are nearly 100% in agreement. He is a sharp fellow. If he is still not satisfied, then he needs to pick me. I know how to make decisions without White Supremacy influencing what I think is right. Very few people can do that.

Hillary might make a good cabinet person, or speaker of the house, but it would be an incredible blunder on Baracks part to pick her as VP and have to deal with not only Hillary, but Bill lurking in the background wanting to be heavily involved in every decision that is to be made.

AmenRa
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 06/08/2008
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Wow, that's a pretty hateful comment. Hate white people much, do you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 06/09/2008

HuffPo is holding all my posts except the last piece of my last one - and my posts are not as incendiary as some on here! What gives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 06/08/2008

gave a speech.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 06/08/2008

Does anyone remember what I do? How Clinton condescendingly offered Obama the VP spot on the ticket when HE was the one WINNING???
Clinton’s using her 17mil of voters as the ransom for her getting the VP spot is deplorable - and that is exactly what she did with her speech on Tuesday - make no mistake about it!
Obama needs someone who has the same ideals he does - and that is not Clinton. Integrity matters, and Clinton does not have any. Clinton on the ticket is more of a liability than an asset. With the Clinton baggage, her lack of ethical behavior throughout the campaign, just think of all the ammunition THAT would give the opposition!
Her RFK assassination comment, which contrary to popular opinion will NOT be forgotten by November, ruled her out as VP. I hate to disappoint Clinton supporters - the facts do not change just because you don’t like them.
Her surrogates who are pushing and trying to influence the VP decision need to keep silent …they are showing blatant disrespect for our nominee. They are also showing a tremendous amount of disrespect for those of us who voted for Obama by ignoring us. But guess what? WE need to be respected, too! And who will not vote for a ticket with the name Clinton on it. Her speech did nothing to apologize for all the ammunition SHE gave the Republicans against Obama. That is not something that will be forgotten just because she

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 06/08/2008
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Using her 17 Million votes as ransom? Oh, and lemme guess,..The CIA is tapping your phone because of your absolute genius; your 'renegade' nature.

Please

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 06/09/2008
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