Dems Not Backing Obama? Rahm Will Deal With It

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First Posted: 06-13-08 10:35 AM   |   Updated: 06-21-08 05:12 AM

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As the man who guided (and pressured and arm-twisted) Democrats to historic congressional gains in 2006, what is Rep. Rahm Emanuel doing now about party members like Rep. Dan Boren who have balked at publicly endorsing Sen. Barack Obama?

Emanuel interjected before I could get my question out.

"Look, I talked to Dan, and I talked to all those guys," he said. "I'm not worried. I just think that's all -- it's reporters who, you know, just a little too much..." He trailed off, perhaps cognizant of present company. "If you had a real problem, I would deal with it. But it's not a problem."

As proof, Emanuel references Indiana Rep. Brad Ellsworth, another Democrat who hasn't yet endorsed Obama. "Brad's got flooding in his district, his people are flooding," he said. "If you ask Brad what he's doing in November, he'll tell you: he's voting for Barack Obama. If you ask Boren, 'I'm voting for Barack Obama.' I mean, it's what they're doing in November, for those guys, that matters. Not what they're doing today, when they're working on their districts. And they'll support their candidate."

The famously acid-tongued Chicagoan may be right, Democrats like Ellsworth and Boren may not pose a problem. But the Republican National Committee is sure trying to make them one. GOP officials have blasted out press releases highlighting Boren's claim that Obama has the "most liberal" voting record in the Senate. "You go ask Boren," Emanuel says, "he'll tell you his view is that that was taken out of context, that he is going to support the nominee."

(He was right: "My comments were taken out of context and as I have said from day one I will vote for the Democratic nominee in November," Boren told The Huffington Post.)

As for Rahm, his support was never in doubt. "I put my life into electing Democrats, okay?" he says.

And so it's understandable when he describes in some detail the agony of being forced to spend the entire 17-month Democratic presidential primary on the sidelines. "I didn't want to get between two friends. This is not what I want to do. I don't want to choose... I talked to Hillary today, she's a friend of mine. Why do I want to be in a position of picking between two friends?"

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He continues: "It was a personal level." The Clintons are "dear friends" who he worked for "intimately," and "unlike others" in the Clinton administration, he notes, Bill Clinton came to campaign for him when he ran for office. "Everything I asked Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton to do when I was chair of the [Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee], they did willingly. For the DCCC, Bill Clinton went to 36 districts, countless emails for fundraising, countless fundraisers around the country. There's not a thing I asked him or her to do that they didn't do. Now I'm not going to -- maybe other people can easily throw that away, but I wasn't going to do that."

On the other hand, Barack and Michelle are friends, he says. "I've known him a long time. We used to sit around helping our governor get elected, help those strategy meetings, stuff like that."

Indeed, they share the same political breeding ground. I asked him about the phrase "Chicago-style politics," ubiquitous in profiles of both him and Obama. "Chicago-style politics? Well, first of all, politics is our all-season sport... People always know somebody or someway or somehow to make it into politics, it's not some distant thing. Look at today, just pick up the paper. The Speaker of the House, who's a Democrat, is the one encouraging people to file articles of impeachment against the governor, who's a Democrat. That usually how we do it?" He laughs. "So that's Chicago-style politics. A lot of elbows, a lot of tackling."

And Obama is a candidate with sharp elbows who can win, Emanuel notes, before ticking off a series of states won by George Bush that he thinks may go blue in '08: Colorado, Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada -- he stops himself. "But that's not for me, that's for the [Obama] campaign." He veers back to the electoral map. "I would also put Ohio in that category."

But for all his optimism about the national trend towards Democrats, he remains skeptical that Howard Dean's 50-state strategy has much to do with it. "Surely it didn't have anything to do" with the three straight Democratic victories in special House elections this year, two of them in overwhelmingly Republican districts. "I know what we did. I know what the race was about in each of those cases, and what won it. We had superiorly recruited our candidates this cycle. They had inadequate candidates."

As for Emanuel's personal political future, I ask him about the Robert Novak column that suggested he was eying Obama's potentially soon-vacant Senate seat. "Please..." he mutters. "First of all, it did not say that, it said the Speaker wanted me [to run], it didn't say I wanted to. Just go read the piece." I said I thought there was a presumption in the story that Emanuel himself wanted the spot. "There was no presumption. So let me just disabuse you of presumption."

For the record, he was right about Novak's piece. I am disabused.

As the man who guided (and pressured and arm-twisted) Democrats to historic congressional gains in 2006, what is Rep. Rahm Emanuel doing now about party members like Rep. Dan Boren who have balked at ...
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I got an email response today from a woman who worked in the Clinton White House and who was coordinating part of her campaign here in Oregon. I asked her about the reluctance of Clinton supporters to back Obama. Here is part of her response "As far as HRC supporters, if and when she's on the ticket, we'll be working as hard or harder than the Obama supporters to take back the White House.

"As far as HRC supporters, if and when she's on the ticket, we'll be working as hard or harder than the Obama supporters to take back the White House."

Wow, bitter sour grapes, or what? I guess Hillary is more important that the Democrats regaining the White House. What are these people thinking?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 06/17/2008
- Gakl I'm a Fan of Gakl 2 fans permalink

How many mental stillborns are on this site anyhow?

You do realize you're talking about POLITICIANS? Re-packaging is WHAT THEY DO.

Clinton and Obama's policy preferences are virtually identical. Their means of delivering the message and type of message is different. That's why I never understood the hardcore Obama/Clinton cultists. All I know, is that neither Obama nor Clinton are perfect, nor are they evil, and both are more intelligent than McSame, who yet fails to understand the MOST BASIC differences between Middle-eastern factions. Do you really want somone who doesn't understand the difference between Shiite's and Sunnis in control of the world's most powerful military messing around in the world's most volatile region?

I'm all for being idealistic, but sometimes, simply being ****ing rational is helpful!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 06/16/2008

tyranny...that's the problem with democrates these days!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 06/16/2008
- bascombe I'm a Fan of bascombe 36 fans permalink
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As the man who guided (and pressured and arm-twisted) Democrats to historic congressional gains in 2006, what is Rep. Rahm Emanuel doing now about party members like Rep. Dan Boren who have balked at publicly endorsing Sen. Barack Obama?

rahm is an enemy. he actually LOST 8 of 9 ELECTED SEATS to BlueAmerica DNC Dems.

Rahm is working for corporatists and AIPAC and NOT FOR OBAMA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 06/16/2008
- allison I'm a Fan of allison 2 fans permalink
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What's wrong with this site? I try to post a comment and get a message it has already been posted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 06/16/2008
- elmysterio I'm a Fan of elmysterio 4 fans permalink

Here's something to think about: Hope for a better tomorrow does not come from either of the political parties. Those parties represent the interests of the moneyed class, not average working stiffs like you and I. Hope for a better tomorrow lies in true grassroots democracy the likes of which are unheard of in the United States. Hope comes from actual citizen participation in governance, not bought and paid for corporate shills like those in the democratic and republican parties. Democracy is long dead in the United States, replaced by plutocracy...

So really, all you're 'voting' for come november is which party do you 'historically belong to'? Or, which party will do the least damage to the country and the world? Nothing positive... all bordering on disaster.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 06/16/2008
- RoseBlue I'm a Fan of RoseBlue 11 fans permalink

Just who are these Clinton who are flocking to McCain? Just visit a few of their Web sites, and, after you create an account in order to view their content (nice way to boost their supposed numbers, no?), you will find the most caustic anti-Obama propaganda out there, from the You Tube smears on Michelle and non-stop loops of Reverend Wright, to your garden variety attacks on the pro-choice stance. These are not Democrats folks. While I am sure there are many former Clinton supporters who are opting to stay home on Election Day or even voting for McCain, the real force behind this “movement” is as right wing as it gets. This is just Phase II of Operation Chaos, put together by the same group of nut-job dittoheads who are desperate to do anything to keep Obama out of office. There is no way they would vote Democratic at the GE no matter who was the nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 06/16/2008
- elmysterio I'm a Fan of elmysterio 4 fans permalink

If supporters of Clinton are 'flocking to McCain' because they're full of sour grapes and can't bring themselves to support 'their party', then they are even stupider than we originally thought. McCain is a crazy, dangerous old man who will destroy the world. Doesn't get any plainer than that... So if these so-called Clinton Supporters are so bitter about losing to Obama that they vote McCain, God help us all. That's just plain old retarded.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 06/16/2008
- Gakl I'm a Fan of Gakl 2 fans permalink

There isn't anyone flocking from the Clinton camp to McCain. It's not sour grapes. It's simply a media-stoked kindling. They're desperate to keep the ratings up by CREATING A CONTROVERSY where there is NONE.

This is blatant and irresponsible manipulation of public opinion, plain and simple. It's just machine noise from a few people desperate to suck off Mcsame. It's not worth the cost of paying attention!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 06/16/2008
- WAdem I'm a Fan of WAdem 3 fans permalink

I disagree, RoseBlue. Obama is not qualified to be commander-in-chief at the most critical time in history. It has nothing to do with race or sour grapes. Electing him in the GE is too risky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 06/16/2008

I understand your apprehension but, really if you are a democrat the risk of John McCain is to high.
His history on women's issues is horrible, I'm not just talking about overturning Roe v Wade ,he has voted against healthcare initiative across the board for 25 years breast cancer screening ect..Heck he was against the ERA my goodness. Its a simple bill stating women should have equal treatment under the law and yes my fellow countrymen will still have never passed that one, but i digress.
You must not have teenage children I do, my greatest fear is that he will draft them into a war in Iran and if you think that is not a possibility you are not thinking clearly.
The president has a lot of people around them helping them make decisions, Obama was not my first choice I admit but he is a heck of a lot better than the alternative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 06/17/2008

This experience argument is such a red herring and cloak for racism. Obama's older than JFK was when he took office and what litany of political accomplishments had JFK had prior to winning the oval office? Also, stop saying "the most critical time in history", they've said that about every election year, its all hype, in spite of all the pressing issue's our country faces, this year is no more critical than years of past and besides the same urgency was placed on the Bush/Gore election year and we see what experience got the country in that deal, let it rest already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 06/17/2008

recent poll today 63 percent Clinton women for Obama, but do you think any of that gets play. No just crazy PUMA. Come on it is divide and conquer. Don't Let them. /some of those women were repubs to begin with that were probably interested in Clinton because of the fact that she was a woman, and that has it appeal.
Unfortunately people have this misguided notion McCain is moderate, he never ever ever has been on women's issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 06/17/2008

Coming from Chicago, whenever the talking TV heads throw out some question wondering if Obama is tough enough, I have to chuckle. He and those around him have learned their politics ward-by-ward, street-by-street, door-to-door. Axelrod, Emanuel, etc. Who do they think they are dealing with? These are liberals with knives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 06/16/2008

Wow-the truth on the Huffington Post? Sounds about right, sounds simply Hitlerian, what these guys will do to win an elction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 06/16/2008
- sf94127 I'm a Fan of sf94127 5 fans permalink

Obama is simply not connecting with a lot of Hillary's supporters, at least 1/3. A lot of them simply believe he resume is too thin and/or there are lingering doubts about who the Obama's are.

Obama is trying to repackage himself for older white women and Latinos. It may come across as phony and if he starts pandering what does he support base have to say about that? Based on the posts I see here Obama supporters are OK with "old politics" to get the Obama's moving into the White House.

If Obama really walked it like he talked it he would not repackage himself. He will and look out for him changing his Iraq policy. And if he makes it to the WH don't hold your breath for a big change in the way the Iraq war is being conducted. Obama is not going to turn Iraq over to Iranian interests. What happens in Iraq won't be that much different under McCain or Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 06/16/2008
- bascombe I'm a Fan of bascombe 36 fans permalink
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YOU'RE WRONG!
Hillary supporters are NOT that stupid.
McBoosh2nd supporters are that stoopid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 06/16/2008
- sf94127 I'm a Fan of sf94127 5 fans permalink

Hillary supporters are just that smart. They are not going to vote for someone (Obama) they view as far too unqualified for the job. Its that simple, live with it.

Obama and his mean wife are actually hoping the following:

1)The economy won't rebound between now and Nov. 2008. They want unemployment to increase in addition to the price at the pump
2)They don't want to see the Iraq situation improve, no progress with Iraquis managing their own country and security.

The Obama's are mean ambitious people. Its all interesting that now that Barack takes the black vote as a given he is attacking MIA black fathers to pander to white conservatives. The guy has no shame. Next he will be downing Cuban sandwhiches in MIami. New politics? Don't think so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 06/16/2008
- Gakl I'm a Fan of Gakl 2 fans permalink

A media parrot, huh? Actual polls show none of what right wing sycophants keep repeating about Obama losing support. All I smell is right wing desperation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 06/16/2008

These congressman were no true Dem from the start,Hillary was no conservative democrat the MSM just tried to paint her that way. For these represemtatives not to support the Democratic ideas,views and policy says one thing they were no democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 06/16/2008
- JJeff88 I'm a Fan of JJeff88 23 fans permalink

I've seen more thoughtful commentary in a pre-school sandbox than I do on this thread.

Speaking for (I think) many of us - we'd really like the Huff-Post mod to explain to us why some of this really obnoxious back & forth clogs their blogosphere whereas more thoughtful content is too often scrubbed out.

Who decides which posts make or don't make the cut? And why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 06/16/2008
- bascombe I'm a Fan of bascombe 36 fans permalink
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howie kurtz

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 06/16/2008
- benne I'm a Fan of benne 10 fans permalink

Obama has won undemocratically with the good ol' boys and the backroom deals. Now, he will depend on some head-busting by yet another thugish guy. This Hope and Change is killing me, as it's killed the Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 06/16/2008
- Gakl I'm a Fan of Gakl 2 fans permalink

Nicely substantiated. Next!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 06/16/2008

Agreed!!! There is nothing we can do about it now though. Until people wake up to what really goes on in politics the Independent candidate doesn't stand a chance. Although I think a lot of people saw the Democratic party for what it is this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 06/16/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Emanuel,

Your are dumb as they come.

The Clinton's and Hillarys supporters are backing Hillary and America.

And we will correct the "Obama mistake" at the convention.

The Clinton's, us supporters and even Obama himself are working to destroy ObaLIAR.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 06/16/2008
- Chad53916 I'm a Fan of Chad53916 10 fans permalink

You're not going to correct anything. You're finished my friend. It seems that hope is a better motivator in this election than hate. It's about time. Don't drive angry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 06/16/2008

Thank you Chad53916! This inner-party fighting is RIDICULOUS! The sour grapes mentality isn't going to help us, the country, the troops, the economy....etc. Having McPAIN become President? Is that the answer HilBill supporters (and racists; in my opinion)? REVENGE? That won't help anyone. Take a deep breath....we are in this together....CHANGE IS GOOD!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 06/16/2008

Don't drive angry! ! I love a good Groundhog Day quote. :) Well said, Chad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 06/16/2008

Agreed - Rahm does not control the electorate. This power play is pissing me off.!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 06/16/2008

Perhaps your time would be better spent in a remedial grammar class, because as dumb as your comments are they are surpassed only by your failure to correctly elicit your ridiculous ideas.
Of course, as a Republican, all your thoughts and ideas are failures!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 06/16/2008
- Heaphy I'm a Fan of Heaphy 17 fans permalink
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"kennedy" is an obnoxious troll dedicated to attacking Barack Obama at every opportunity. Take a look at "kennedy's" profile. Believe nothing posted under the name "kennedy" on this site.
- Jim Heaphy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 06/16/2008
- Shayrae I'm a Fan of Shayrae 27 fans permalink
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The Clintons already tried that tactic. Which is why they have vacated the scene. Like Heston said in The Ten Commandents: May the name Clinton be stricken from the record for all time''

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 06/16/2008
- dukeitout I'm a Fan of dukeitout 3 fans permalink

The article says "but for all his (Emanuel's) optimism about the national trend towards Democrats, he remains skeptical that Howard Dean's 50-state strategy has much to do with it." The Emanuel and Carville crowd participate in that wing of the democratic party that caused huge numbers of democrats to become independents. They did everything possible to undermine Dean's bid in 2004. Their group was more than a little responsible for major republican victories over the past 10 or so years. I wouldn't rely on Emanuel to "deal with it" as stated in the headline to this article.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 06/16/2008
- bascombe I'm a Fan of bascombe 36 fans permalink
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people should make a note of that truth!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 06/16/2008
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The choice in November:

End of War vs. Endless War
Diplomacy vs. Coercive Democracy & Preemptive War
Universal Healthcare vs. pity and prayer
Economic policies for working class vs. economic policies for multinational corporations
Reproductive Rights vs. Coat hangers

It's a no brainer. Everything else is just whiney fluff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 06/15/2008
- elmysterio I'm a Fan of elmysterio 4 fans permalink

Do your really believe that Obama represents:
End of war, Diplomacy, Universal Healthcare, Economics of working class?

Hardly. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will not end under Obama. He will not stop using the threat of military action as a diplomacy tool (in violation of international law). Universal, single-payer healthcare will never happen in the US due to the power of the Insurance industry. Economics for the working class? That's the most laughable of your assertions. He's another corporate shill. Policy will continue to benefit the moneyed class and the corporations at the expense of the average working stiff.... just you wait and see. In fact, I'm thinkin that you're in for a major disappointment if/when Obama becomes president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 06/16/2008
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