Supreme Court Upholds Right To Own Guns For Self-Defense

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MARK SHERMAN | June 26, 2008 11:13 PM EST | AP

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Jeff Gildersleeve adjusts the sight on a Glock Model 27 .40-caliber handgun at B & J Guns in Colonie, N.Y., Thursday, June 26, 2008. The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Americans have a constitutional right to keep guns in their homes for self-defense, the justices' first major pronouncement on gun control in U.S. history. (AP Photo/Mike Groll)

WASHINGTON — Silent on central questions of gun control for two centuries, the Supreme Court found its voice Thursday in a decision affirming the right to have guns for self-defense in the home and addressing a constitutional riddle almost as old as the republic over what it means to say the people may keep and bear arms.

The court's 5-4 ruling struck down the District of Columbia's ban on handguns and imperiled similar prohibitions in other cities, Chicago and San Francisco among them. Federal gun restrictions, however, were expected to remain largely intact.

The court's historic awakening on the meaning of the Second Amendment brought a curiously mixed response, muted in some unexpected places.

The reaction broke less along party lines than along the divide between cities wracked with gun violence and rural areas where gun ownership is embedded in daily life. Democrats have all but abandoned their long push for stricter gun laws at the national level after deciding it's a losing issue for them. Republicans welcomed what they called a powerful precedent.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, straddling both sides of the issue, said merely that the court did not find an unfettered right to bear arms and that the ruling "will provide much-needed guidance to local jurisdictions across the country." But another Chicagoan, Democratic Mayor Richard Daley, called the ruling "very frightening" and predicted more violence and higher taxes to pay for extra police if his city's gun restrictions are lost.

Republican presidential candidate John McCain welcomed the ruling as "a landmark victory for Second Amendment freedom."

The court had not conclusively interpreted the Second Amendment since its ratification in 1791. The amendment reads: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

The basic issue for the justices was whether the amendment protects an individual's right to own guns no matter what, or whether that right is somehow tied to service in a state militia, a once-vital, now-archaic grouping of citizens. That's been the heart of the gun control debate for decades.

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Writing for the majority, Justice Antonin Scalia said an individual right to bear arms exists and is supported by "the historical narrative" both before and after the Second Amendment was adopted.

President Bush said: "I applaud the Supreme Court's historic decision today confirming what has always been clear in the Constitution: the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear firearms."

The full implications of the decision, however, are not sorted out. Still to be seen, for example, is the extent to which the right to have a gun for protection in the home may extend outside the home.

Scalia said the Constitution does not permit "the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home." The court also struck down D.C. requirements that firearms be equipped with trigger locks or kept disassembled, but left intact the licensing of guns. The district allows shotguns and rifles to be kept in homes if they are registered, kept unloaded and taken apart or equipped with trigger locks.

Scalia noted that the handgun is Americans' preferred weapon of self-defense in part because "it can be pointed at a burglar with one hand while the other hand dials the police."

But he said nothing in the ruling should "cast doubt on long-standing prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons or the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings."

In a concluding paragraph to the 64-page opinion, Scalia said the justices in the majority "are aware of the problem of handgun violence in this country" and believe the Constitution "leaves the District of Columbia a variety of tools for combating that problem, including some measures regulating handguns."

D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty responded with a plan to require residents to register their handguns. "More handguns in the District of Columbia will only lead to more handgun violence," Fenty said.

In a dissent he summarized from the bench, Justice John Paul Stevens wrote that the majority "would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons."

He said such evidence "is nowhere to be found."

Justice Stephen Breyer wrote a separate dissent in which he said, "In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."

Joining Scalia were Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Clarence Thomas. The other dissenters were Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and David Souter.

Gun rights advocates praised the decision. "I consider this the opening salvo in a step-by-step process of providing relief for law-abiding Americans everywhere that have been deprived of this freedom," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association.

The NRA will file lawsuits in San Francisco, Chicago and several Chicago suburbs challenging handgun restrictions there based on Thursday's outcome.

Some Democrats also welcomed the ruling.

"This opinion should usher in a new era in which the constitutionality of government regulations of firearms are reviewed against the backdrop of this important right," said Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont.

The capital's gun law was among the nation's strictest.

Dick Anthony Heller, 66, an armed security guard, sued the district after it rejected his application to keep a handgun at his Capitol Hill home a short distance from the Supreme Court.

"I'm thrilled I am now able to defend myself and my household in my home," Heller said shortly after the opinion was announced.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled in Heller's favor and struck down the district's handgun ban, saying the Constitution guarantees Americans the right to own guns and a total prohibition on handguns is not compatible with that right.

The issue caused a split within the Bush administration. Vice President Dick Cheney supported the appeals court ruling, but others in the administration feared it could lead to the undoing of other gun regulations, including a federal law restricting sales of machine guns. Other laws keep felons from buying guns and provide for an instant background check.

The last Supreme Court ruling on the matter came in 1939 in U.S. v. Miller, which involved a sawed-off shotgun. Constitutional scholars agree it did not squarely answer the question of individual versus collective rights.

The case is District of Columbia v. Heller, 07-290.

WASHINGTON — Silent on central questions of gun control for two centuries, the Supreme Court found its voice Thursday in a decision affirming the right to have guns for self-defense in the home ...
WASHINGTON — Silent on central questions of gun control for two centuries, the Supreme Court found its voice Thursday in a decision affirming the right to have guns for self-defense in the home ...
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- JerryG1 I'm a Fan of JerryG1 4 fans permalink

A victory for Greed, and The Grim Reaper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 06/28/2008
- Jadegold I'm a Fan of Jadegold 7 fans permalink

Let us be clear on one thing WRT this ruling. It drives a stake through the heart of the argument that gun ownership is some kind of remedy to government tyranny.

In fact, what this case says is that an individual has a right to a firearm and that right is not connected to participation in a militia. The militia was the group that could stand up to government tyranny.

So, another NRA myth has been debunked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 06/28/2008
- billu I'm a Fan of billu 2 fans permalink

So wrong as the militia in that sense is basically all who are able to bear arms. Please try again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 07/02/2008
- idest I'm a Fan of idest 3 fans permalink

One interesting thing no one has mentioned so far is that most of those who live in communities worst-affected by gun violence simply can't afford to buy a handgun to protect themselves. They're living paycheck-to-paycheck, day-to-day, and don't have the resources to shell out a couple hundred dollars for a gun and the ammunition to fill it. This problem has been exacerbated recently as the price of core goods (bread, milk, gas, etc) has skyrocketed. So while they may have had the right to bear arms, they didn't have the resources to do so. That's why the DC gun ban made sense: if the innocents can't afford guns, lets at least attempt to limit the availability of guns to those who can (criminals).

I don't think guns should be banned nationwide, far from it. I'm all for hunting if that's your thing. But southeast DC isn't the countryside and should not be regulated the same way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 06/27/2008

I find it difficult to believe that individual self defense or individual resistance against governmental oppression was the primary reason for the Second Amendment, as many gun rights advocates assert. The framers probably did regard the right to bear arms as an individual right, but one that could at least be regulated by the states.

It is a very badly worded amendment. The ambiguity may have been deliberate. Making the Constitution recognize a right of at least some citizens to keep and bear arms would have reassured the states that their ability to resist invasion and put down insurrections would not be completely dependent on the new federal government. On the other hand, making those state militias subject to be called by Congress into the service of the United States clearly sent the message that the federal government would have considerable power.

Another reason that may explain why the framers worded the Second Amendment they way they did is that they preferred a militia system over permanent standing armies. There was the memory of abuses by British troops during the colonial period. Also, there was a concern that if states were allowed to maintain standing armies staffed with professional soldiers, that would be a threat to the viability of the federal government.

Standing armies are necessary in the modern world, but their existence also presents problems. If we did not have a military industrial complex, would our troops be at war in Iraq right now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 06/27/2008
- randyjet I'm a Fan of randyjet 27 fans permalink

There is no rational reason to suppose that the gun ban in DC was responsible for a decline in violent crime for a host of reasons. The stats do not break down crimes in terms of gun use, so murders using a baseball bat is counted as the same as that using a gun. Not only that, but in DC it is easy for people to legally get guns to commit crimes by simply taking a brief Metro ride to VA or MD. That is true for only first time crooks, but others can get surogates to get them legally too. The fact is that guns are legal in VA and Md, so crooks can easily get those guns by being burglars in those areas. As the two dead burglars in Houston showed, the crooks do NOT just stay in thier part of town.
WE will soon see if the ban had any effect, as the new situation exists for a time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 06/27/2008
- billu I'm a Fan of billu 2 fans permalink

I know that in Virginia you need to be a resident to purchase a handgun. If you don't have valid docs they shouldn't even let you handle one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 07/02/2008

Thomas Jefferson also said: "The appointment of a woman to office is an innovation for which the public is not prepared, nor I."

His proposal "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms" was rejected by Virginia.

"Virginia's legislature chose instead a constitution and bill of rights drafted by committee, and taken predominantly from the proposals of the more conservative George Mason. The prevailing version omitted any mention of individual arms and substituted a recognition that: "A well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free State.""

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 06/27/2008

To better understand the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution it is helpful to consider how almost every reasonable person would interpret this amendment if it did not involve something which is considered controversial or politically incorrect by some and idolized by others. Arms in the possession of ordinary citizens meet both criteria. Let's, for the sake of argument, suppose that the Second Amendment dealt with books, not arms or weapons, and read like this: "A well educated electorate, being necessary to the maintenance of a free State, the right of the people to own and read books, shall not be infringed." Does anyone really believe that liberals would claim that only people who were eligible to vote should be allowed to buy and read books? Or that a person should have to have voted in the last election before the government would permit him or her to buy a book? Would the importation of books be banned if they did not meet an "educational purpose" test? Would some States limit citizens to buying "one book a month"? Would inflammatory "assault books" be banned in California?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 06/27/2008

Here is what the constitution says about militias:

Article 1: The Congress shall have power To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Article 2: The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States

Amendment 2: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

The court held that Amendment 2 protect an individual's right to own firearms. Now the question is whether the states or the U.S. Congress have the right to restrict the type and number of firearms that an individual may own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 06/27/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 227 fans permalink
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We need access to firearms in case the Ruskies and Cubans decide to invade the U.S. by air-dropping down into Colorado!! Haven't you all seen Red Dawn?!

"Wolverines!!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 06/27/2008

Every day, 550 rapes, 1,100 murders, and 5,200 other violent crimes are prevented just by showing a gun. In less than 0.9% of these instances is the gun ever actually fired.


In 1982, Kennesaw, GA passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate dropped 89% the following year.


74% of felons agreed that "one reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime."


57% of felons polled agreed, "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police."

90% of all violent crimes in the U.S. do not involve firearms of any type.

Even in crimes where the offender possessed a gun during the commission of the crime, 83% did not use or threaten to use the gun.

Less than 1% of firearms will ever be used in the commission of a crime.


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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 06/27/2008
- idest I'm a Fan of idest 3 fans permalink

Anybody can make up statistics and cite a biased website.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 06/27/2008

I don't see what the big deal is with this decision. Why are people so upset?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 06/27/2008
- klmebane I'm a Fan of klmebane 20 fans permalink
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i'm not upset about the ruling. people should be able to defend themselves in their own homes if necessary. i am, however, upset by something else.

"President Bush said: "I applaud the Supreme Court's historic decision today confirming what has always been clear in the Constitution: the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear firearms.""

i find it odd that he supports the second amendment but not the 5th amendment which gives people the right of habeas corpus which was intended to safeguard individual freedom from arbitrary state action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 06/27/2008
- billu I'm a Fan of billu 2 fans permalink

The Constitution provides for the suspension of HC on occasion. What I disagree with is the extending of constitutional privlidges to someone detained in a foreign country of foreign nationality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 07/02/2008

The framers of the constitution had as their primary concern the people versus the government. They had a belly full of authoritarian rule and tried hard to set up a government that could not abuse the citizens. They had just gone through a period where the average guys on the street had to be assembled with their personal firearms in order to form an army that fought for our independence. Without those firearms we would be british serfs today. The reason that there is a constitutional law to protect our right to personal firearms is because they suspected there may come a time when the citizens would do something foolish like let one group take over all branches of the government like we had prior to the dems midterm victory. I will be honest and say that for most of my life I have been in favor of less guns but the framers fears have come to pass and I am happy we have guns.It is ironic that the republicans were and are the ones who made it possible for us to have weapons and that we now are concerned with the republicans abusing the citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 06/27/2008

Very well put.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 06/27/2008

Republicans Abusing Citizens? Where is this happening?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 06/27/2008

Every day, 550 rapes, 1,100 murders, and 5,200 other violent crimes are prevented just by showing a gun. In less than 0.9% of these instances is the gun ever actually fired.


In 1982, Kennesaw, GA passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate dropped 89% the following year.


74% of felons agreed that "one reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime."


57% of felons polled agreed, "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police."

90% of all violent crimes in the U.S. do not involve firearms of any type.

Even in crimes where the offender possessed a gun during the commission of the crime, 83% did not use or threaten to use the gun.

Less than 1% of firearms will ever be used in the commission of a crime.


Read more
http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/5.0/GunFacts5-0-screen.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 06/27/2008
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It will never happen, but I had an idea:

Two big cities with similar demographic and similar crime rates (over the course of several years, let's say 10). The cities, by referendum, agree to conduct an experiment.

City A develops, passes and enforces the strictest gun regulations it can get away with, drastically cuts down on the licenses it issues, and does its best to legally round up even the legally owned weapons (such as a cash-for-guns exchange, gun abstinence-only education, etc.).

City B continues to license guns, loosens up restrictions, even allowing for concealed carry.

Ten years pass and the demographic and crime trends are once again compared.

I really do wonder what would happen. I see good arguments on both sides, but both sides also use statistics skewed in their favor and I can't rightly trust any gun advocate (anti or pro) because of this.

What I do I know is this: If I were a criminal, I wouldn't rob a home in Town B! Town A, chock full of sitting ducks, would be MY hunting ground.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 06/27/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 427 fans permalink
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Look at the post below with murder and violent crime stats.

We have mirror GMA's with six cities and stats from over 40 years.

Yes, a study would be telling.

Thankfully, we have one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 06/27/2008
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Really. Which of those cities loosened up their gun restrictions AND allow for concealed carry?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 06/27/2008
- Chris I'm a Fan of Chris 12 fans permalink

Except you posted stats shwoing all violent crimes. Now to be accurate you need to support stats of vilent crimes including a legally obtained firearm.

Now that would show theeffectiveness of gun control.

You can not use stats that include non gun related crimes to support your arguement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 06/27/2008
- williamina I'm a Fan of williamina 7 fans permalink

The portion, "the right of the people," would have to be narrowly defined as to assume that "people" only meant those in a militia. For the minority opinion to believe that the majority was stretching is ludicrous.

The real stretch is defining people = those in a militia. But then it would be incumbent on the minority to define militia? I did not read that in the dissent.

Even with the 5-4 I am disappointed, it should have been 8-1 or maybe 7-2, just to leave the door a little cracked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 06/27/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1670 fans permalink
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Ludicrous is in the eyes of the beholder. Remember George Carlin: those driving faster than you are maniacs, and those driving slower than you are morons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 06/27/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 427 fans permalink
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Disagree.

The fact that "well maintained Militia" even appears suggests that there is a qualifier when referring to "the people".

The only way to interpret it as Militia and people being exclusive would be to argue that the Founders believed that "the Militia" would consist of goats and watermelons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 06/27/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

the framers held that the militia was every able-bodied man in the country

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 06/28/2008
- dentuso I'm a Fan of dentuso 427 fans permalink
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and the bigger problem with pulling any ambiguity from the Amendment, definitively interpreting it as an individual right?

just wait until someone figures out that because the 2nd Amendment was just interpreted as a Constitutional Right for the "individual", it must be appled in the same manner as all other Constitutional Rights for the individual - right to freedom of speech, right to an attorney, right to privacy, right to freedom of religion... With that, it would be discriminatory to not ensure that this new individual Constitutional Right is applied without financial discrimination.

ie - we just opened up a law that says that we MUST provide guns to those in inner-cities.

F'ing brilliant!!! Woo Hoo!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 06/27/2008

New right? its been there all along and where does it say we must provide guns? Get your own gun. The government does not owe anyone anything, just the freedom and liberty to pursue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 06/27/2008
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