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Wesley Clark Stands By McCain Criticism

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June 30, 2008 09:14 PM


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Despite heavy criticism, Gen. Wesley Clark is standing by his statement this weekend that Sen. John MCain's military experience doesn't qualify him to be commander-in-chief.

"I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war," Clark said of McCain on Sunday. "But he hasn't held executive responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded -- that wasn't a wartime squadron. He hasn't been there and ordered the bombs to fall."

That statement from Clark has come under withering criticism from McCain's campaign and was rejected by Sen. Barack Obama, both of whom (along with the media) distorted Clark's words by painting them as an attack on McCain's military service. (Notably, several U.S. veterans, including Iraq vet and VoteVets.org chairman Jon Soltz, and Lt. Gen. Robert Gard Jr. have come to Clark's defense.)

This evening, Clark issued a statement reiterating his respect for McCain's "courage and commitment to our country," as well as his belief that McCain's judgment on crucial national security issues has been deeply flawed:

"There are many important issues in this Presidential election, clearly one of the most important issues is national security and keeping the American people safe. In my opinion, protecting the American people is the most important duty of our next President. I have made comments in the past about John McCain's service and I want to reiterate them in order be crystal clear. As I have said before I honor John McCain's service as a prisoner of war and a Vietnam Veteran. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in Armed Forces as a prisoner of war. I would never dishonor the service of someone who chose to wear the uniform for our nation.


"John McCain is running his campaign on his experience and how his experience would benefit him and our nation as President. That experience shows courage and commitment to our country - but it doesn't include executive experience wrestling with national policy or go-to-war decisions. And in this area his judgment has been flawed - he not only supported going into a war we didn't have to fight in Iraq, but has time and again undervalued other, non-military elements of national power that must be used effectively to protect America But as an American and former military officer I will not back down if I believe someone doesn't have sound judgment when it comes to our nation's most critical issues."

UPDATE: Via HuffPost's Sam Stein, Clark appeared tonight on MSNBC's Verdict with Dan Abrams:

Clark stood by his comments late Monday night on MSNBC, apologizing only for detracting from the "bigger issues."


"I honor John McCain's character," said Clark. "As I said in the show he's been on of my heroes for a long time. He's been over to my house. This is about the qualifications to be president. It is also about the nature of politics today that a comment can be taken out of context so much to create a hullaboo."

Clark stressed that when he initially suggested that McCain's time in Vietnam did not -- by itself -- qualify him to be president, he was speaking as his own agent and not on behalf of Barack Obama's campaign. In addition, he pointed some of the spotlight on the fact that one of McCain's surrogates in batting back the criticism was Bud Day, a member of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth organization that McCain once criticized.

"I think language of this type and this part of the discussion shouldn't be part of the campaign," he said. "I reject the idea that you take something like this and Swift Boat it all out of proportion."

Asked repeatedly by Abrams whether he was sorry for his statement, Clark did not offer an apology. He even playfully hinted that his remark couldn't have been all-too-controversial as it was first stated by CBS Face the Nation hoest Bob Schieffer: "It was a great line," he said, "I didn't make it up. It was given to me by the interviewer."

But Clark's appearance was clearly an effort to clarify the message that his earlier remark sent. And in the process, he threw in some lines of support for his candidate of choice: Obama.

"I think anybody who serves in uniform who serves their country in wartime and has gone through the hardships like John McCain should be honored for their character and courage," said Clark. "I think people look for character and courage in their pres, but I don't think you' have to have been at war to have shown character and courage. I think you can see that in other candidates. I think you can see that in Barack Obama's life."

 
 

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- OldPete See Profile I'm a Fan of OldPete

I really think this is about the right wing trying to swift boat a potential Obama VP candidate. Does anyone else think so? Obama/Clark could be an incredible ticket with Clark bringing some hefty military cred. He is a bonafide Vietnam war hero, has three large commands under his belt (Including Supreme Allied Commander of Europe), and too many military honors to list here.

Hang in there, General Clark. We know who the real heroic leader is!

Also, did anyone hear Daniel Schorr's supremely sane and sage commentary about this matter on NPR's "All Things Considered" this afternoon? Highly recommended.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 07/03/2008
- Marlyn See Profile I'm a Fan of Marlyn

"I really think this is about the right wing trying to swift boat a potential Obama VP candidate." ???
But how could that be, since Obama himself has rejected General Clark's comments?

General Clark spoke the truth, and Obama rejected that truth. This really bothers me. I had thought that Barack was a champion of truth, and I hoped he would choose the General as his VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 07/03/2008
- OldPete See Profile I'm a Fan of OldPete

Marilyn - this is exactly my point! The media piles on Clark, with Fox News and the right wing fanning the flames, after wilfully misinterpreting what Clark said. Isn't that what swift boating has come to mean? The McCain people recognize a superior adversary in General Clark and are looking for ways to knock him out of the running for the VP slot. Anything to muddy the waters and taint General Clark's good name!

I agree, the immediate reaction of the Obama campaign was disappointing at best, but only after General Clark was "swift boated" to begin with. The Obama people have atleast backed off their initial reactive comments. (Obama refused to insist that Clark apologize, etc.)

I hope you (and everyone!) will look at Paul Krugman's excellent op-ed piece in the NYT today on this very subject. Also I'd love to recommend the books, "Nixonland" by Rick Pearlstein (about the modern era of "dirty tricks" campaigning), Krugman's own excellent "The Conscience of a Liberal", Maggie Jackson's "Distracted" (about how we are failing to think in depth about the issues in our fast paced "mcthinking" world), anything by the brilliant cognitive scientist and linguist George Lakoff and last but not least, "Just How Stupid Are We? Facing the Truth About the American Voter" by Rick Shenkman (no explanation necessary!)

Wishing you a happy 4th of July!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 07/04/2008
- DonDavis See Profile I'm a Fan of DonDavis

Wesley Clark Challenges John McCain to a Game of "Battleship"
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1976

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 07/03/2008
- NHGranite See Profile I'm a Fan of NHGranite

Clark wants us to ask: What does qualify McCain to be president? Take that POW experience off the table and what is left? Are there any principals that the man hasn't compromised? Campaign finance, off shore drilling, admitting that he didn't love America, or still love his first wife when she was disfigured, what he says he does and doesn't know about the economy?

Maybe having an extra-marital affair is all it takes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/03/2008
- CaptianTom See Profile I'm a Fan of CaptianTom

Stand strong General Clark, some-one needs to punch holes in mcsames pow line. Yes, mcsame was a pow but that does not make one qualified to be the President. Being smart, articulate, and able to think clearly are way more important than being a pow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 07/03/2008
- Donnat See Profile I'm a Fan of Donnat

He'd make a very smart and photogenic VP. Obama campaign are you reading this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/03/2008
- Jules1 See Profile I'm a Fan of Jules1

http://www.votevets.org/index_html

You can sign here that you support Gen. Clark

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 07/03/2008
- MrCoffeeCup See Profile I'm a Fan of MrCoffeeCup

Mr. Pitney, I am of the opinion that there's a real agenda to smear here! What does it take, in the way of qualifications, to make a great President?
College graduate with advanced degrees? Law, Business, International Relationships, International Law and a Vision to steer the Ship of State on a steady and prosperous course? Every President Since Roosevelt have had some of these qualities.
Experience in a Profit and Loss business venture. After all we are still a Capitalistic Economy and Democratic Republic. Experience as a Chief executive/General Manager of a large enterprise(aka) Governmental,Business, Philathropical ventures(aka)Command experience.

General Clarke is still pedaling "His Resume as a NATO COMMANDER" to get a job with any Democratic administration. (Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State) I believe are his goals. He wants any job just hire him. So his qualifications as Commanding General of NATO forces qualify him for what???
He hasn't been elected to anything!! He can't get elected because he was FIRED by the Clinton administration. He was dangerous to the United States with his recommendations during the Clinton War!!!

Wesley Clark(We honor your Service....Butt....PLEASE BUTT OUT!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 07/03/2008
- dalescott See Profile I'm a Fan of dalescott

"Clark isn't actively seeking a position in a presidency"

Of course Wesley Clarke is actively seeking a position in an Obama administration. This guy is one of the most self-promoting individuals I've ever seen. He has been pursuing a political position ever since he was booted out of the European command on issues of integrity and character. Has far as I'm concerned there are no issues of integrity and character related to Clarke: He has none.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 07/04/2008
- egal See Profile I'm a Fan of egal

Clark isn't actively seeking a position in a presidency, nor does his agenda detract from the media's serious twisting of his true comments.

Nobdy's discussing what does or does not make a "great president". The question is simply whether it's disingenuous to claim that being a P.O.W. counts as experience useful to being a competent president, and the answer is that no experience alone should be sufficient for a presidency, but that particular experience in no way translates to serving as Commander in Chief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 07/03/2008
- sawdustinhershoes See Profile I'm a Fan of sawdustinhershoes

No! General Clark has more validity in this argument than does Obama. Wesley Clark is a US general, he has more leadership experience than George Bush Jr., John McCain, DICK Cheney, Rumsfeld and all the other cowards who weigh in on these issues.

You are wrong! Just because you don't like to hear the truth, you denigrate those who tell the truth. Doesn't say much about your standards for prez or for leaders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 07/03/2008
- DragonBuddha06 See Profile I'm a Fan of DragonBuddha06

Gen. Clark is absolutely correct when he says that McCain's military experience doesn't prepare him for the Oval Office. McCain touts his military experience as a POW in the Hanoi Hilton gives him an advantage/expertise in Defense Strategies...

Did it ever dawn on anybody that getting shot down shows a distinct lack of defensive capabilities?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 07/03/2008
- gigi09 See Profile I'm a Fan of gigi09

I agree with Gen Clark...no need to say I am sorry to anyone. Stand your ground!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 07/03/2008
- southafrica4obama See Profile I'm a Fan of southafrica4obama

HERO OF THE WEEK, Wesley Clark

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 07/03/2008
- Redrover666 See Profile I'm a Fan of Redrover666

Agreed! Caused a ten point jump in polls for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 07/03/2008
- lvdragonlady See Profile I'm a Fan of lvdragonlady

Clark is totally right. Just because someone was a POW does not give them the experience/??? to be president. All it proves is he was dumb enough to get caught.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 07/03/2008
- purtzel See Profile I'm a Fan of purtzel

One should read the comments of several high ranking officers who experienced Vietnam on the ground and commented on McCain in that light. Goes with Gen. Clark.
I was in the service too. Am I Presidential material?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 07/03/2008
- ShamusNYC See Profile I'm a Fan of ShamusNYC

Clark's right, but inartful.

Just because someone's a good player doesn't mean that they'll be a good coach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 07/03/2008
- Redrover666 See Profile I'm a Fan of Redrover666

McCain was a Naval Captain. That's one pay grade below Admiral (or General, for you civilians). He was a senior, field grade officer, equivalent to a senior, high level executive in a corporation. As I asked earlier, any evidence Obama has successfully run a lemon aid stand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 07/03/2008
- SpencerCat See Profile I'm a Fan of SpencerCat

McCain graduated at the bottom of his class, was a f*k up in the Navy, and got his plane shot down. Plus, he calls his wife a c*nt.

Obama graduated Harvard at the top of his class and made Harvard Law Review.

Guess which one I prefer to lead my country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 07/03/2008
- dartagnan See Profile I'm a Fan of dartagnan

How many troops did McBush ever command in battle, and for how long? His first combat assignment began in December 1966 and he was shot down and captured in October 1967. Ten months is not a hell of a lot of command experience. I am not denigrating his service to his country, nor was Gen. Clark, but having your plane shot down and spending years in the Hanoi Hilton does not qualify someone to be president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 07/03/2008
- gulopartisan See Profile I'm a Fan of gulopartisan

Baloney. McCain was a pilot with no command role whatsoever. Want to see how that qualifies him for the Presidency? Watch Top Gun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 07/03/2008
- michaelinatl See Profile I'm a Fan of michaelinatl

I want to go on record as being completely in agreement with Gen. Clark -- he voiced exactly what I have been thinking during this whole campaign -- that McCain's involuntary servitude in a POW camp, exemplary as his behavior was, does not constitute special training for the office of the President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 07/03/2008
- Call me Sweety See Profile I'm a Fan of Call me Sweety

Well said...michaelinatl.........you said exactly what I was thinking....props to you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 07/03/2008
- Wilburrr See Profile I'm a Fan of Wilburrr

If McCain is going to claim his military record among his qualifications for President, then we need to know exactly what that record his. McCain should have his records concerning the July 1967 fire on board the USS Forestall opened for public investigation. Why was he transferred off that ship so quickly? Did he really 'wet start' his A-4 to get back at the F-4 pilot behind him, starting the fire? Is that behavior consistent with his personality? Would you want someone with that record elected President?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 07/03/2008
- photobug See Profile I'm a Fan of photobug

The Swiftboaters had no problem tearing into Kerry, a decorated veteran, because they didn't want him to be president. The neocons had no problem trying to destroy Max Cleland.

McCain is an ass, and no amount of prior service is going to change that. He is absolutely unqualified to serve Bush's third term, and this "we can do it to yours but you can't do it to ours is bs, and that should be pointed out at every opportunity.

How many know that Gen. Clark was evacuated on a stretcher and nearly died after being severely wounded in action, taking many months to recover? Not many, because he didn't use his service and his wounds suffered as a soldier to gain him sympathy when he ran for president. Unlike McSameasbush, he knows that being part of a war and ordering the start of one are very different responsibilities. No one is more qualified to criticize McSame than Gen. Clark.

Thank you for speaking out,General , and keep it up. McSame's hypocrisy needs exposure at every turn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 07/03/2008
- Redrover666 See Profile I'm a Fan of Redrover666

The Swiftboaters had no problem doing it to Kerry because Kerry came home, threw his medals over a fence, posed for pictures with Jane Fonda and told congress his comrades were murderers and rapists.

McCain ran a squadron and retired a Naval Captain. I haven't seen any evidence that Obama has even run a successful lemon aid stand.

I sincerely hope the left attacks McCain and does it relentlessly. Americans can see that unlike Kerry, McCain served proudly and that's all you can say. It's giving him a nice boost in the polls. Keep up the good work.

Oh, one last thing. Say "McCain's service doesn't count for anything AND we don't want any oil drilling!!" Say it loud, clearly and often.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 07/03/2008
- SouthpawSass See Profile I'm a Fan of SouthpawSass

I should have paid better attention to Clark during the 2004 election. I was focused on Edwards and didn't really take the time to learn more about General Clark. It wasn't until Kerry got the nomination that I realized, "Hmmm John Kerry, really...great. Hey, who's that Clark fellow?" Uh oh, too late.

I've since read up on General Wesley Clark and have been very impressed with his story. He's achieved many things, he's dedicated decades to service for this country and the media should have given him the respect that service deserves. They certainly were willing to give it to McCain, I don't understand why the media was so willing to throw the General under the bus. Have they read anything at all about him? I doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 07/03/2008
- walsenberg See Profile I'm a Fan of walsenberg

I hope Clark does not back down from his honest assessment of MCCain. Right on W. Clark!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 07/03/2008
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