What Is In The Water In Anti-Obama Tennessee?

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First Posted: 06-30-08 11:55 AM   |   Updated: 07- 8-08 05:12 AM

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There has been some lament within conservative circles over the absence of a clearly defined attack machine to take on Barack Obama. T. Boone Pickens, the financier of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth effort, has pledged, at this juncture, to sit the election out. Republican insiders have worried about a lack of funds, and a public relations backlash that comes with launching such ads.

There has, however, been one organization at least nominally willing to step into this attack-politik void. And it isn't one of the much-discussed discussed 527 variety.

The Republican Party of Tennessee has, on several occasions, trotted out lines of criticism against Obama that put them further down that road than even Karl Rove - the vaunted campaign attack alchemist - has been willing to go. The state's GOP released a press release in late February, accusing the Democratic nominee of being anti-Israel, linking him to Louis Farrakhan, and featuring a photo of the Senator in African garb for good measure.

Nearly two months later, the party began circulating a video of Michelle Obama saying that she was proud of her country for the first time in her adult life, followed by a montage of Tennesseans discussing the essence of their patriotism (including, conspicuously, a guy at a pool table with a rack of guns behind him).

The attacks on the Obama have not been the strict purview of the state's GOP party. A local conservative radio talk show host has been called out for consistently using Obama's middle name - "Hussein" - on the air, while a member of Tennessee's Democratic Executive Committee was forced to apologize recently after suggesting that Obama may have terrorist connections.

Taken together, these episodes constitute some of the most inflammatory rhetoric of the early campaign season and raise a fairly curious question: what is in the water in Tennessee?

"It is all over the rural parts of Tennessee," said a Democratic source from the state. "And it's not just Republicans. I took that temperature a few months ago and the Democratic Party warned me that even some Democratic officials were believing viral smears about Obama."

Much of the Republican bile directed Obama's way has come, observers say, from the state GOP's communications director Bill Hobbs. A conservative activist and quasi-journalist, Hobbs is known as a somewhat controversial figure. In February 2006 he resigned from Belmont University in Nashville, where he was serving in the communications department, after posting a cartoon of a stick-figured Prophet Mohammed holding a bomb. The drawing, entitled "Mohammed Blows," was meant to spotlight the media's unwillingness to publish the infamous Danish cartoons on Islam.

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The firing did not dissuade the Tennessee GOP from offering Hobbs a job, nor did it dissuade Hobbs from pushing the political envelop, which he has done with regularity since taking over the new post.

"I think that [Michelle Obama] video, which we put up on YouTube, struck a nerve. It struck a nerve with Democrats and they squealed and they squealed really loud, and it caused a big storm in the media," he told the Huffington Post. As for whether a candidate's wife should be off limits, he added, "It doesn't matter if the campaign surrogate is married to the candidate or not. What campaign surrogates say on the campaign trail during the course of the campaign is fair game."

But not everyone has been on board. And the reaction to Hobb's work has become a telling illustration of just how difficult it has been for conservatives to settle on a line of attack against Obama. Tennessee's two Republican Senators expressed reservations, with a staffer for Bob Corker demanding that the Michelle Obama spot be taken down, and a spokesman for Lamar Alexander suggesting that "there are probably better ways to communicate our pride in America."

"You've got the more centrist, moderate Republicans who are frankly embarrassed by Hobbs," said Ken Whitehouse, a political reporter for the Nashville Post. "I've got Republican members of the state legislature who are biding their time, keeping their mouth shut, but don't like what he's doing because he is drawing attention to himself and not the message. But at the same time you have people who want to fight and love him for it."

Indeed, it has been rumored that Karl Rove warned the state's party directors not to use Obama's middle name (to insinuate that he is a Muslim) for fear that the GOP would be seen as bigots -- which, if true, puts Bush's brain in a milder camp than some of the state's conservative figures. And yet, it was a Tennessee Democrat who made such an insinuation.

A few weeks ago, former state Rep. Fred Hobbs suggested that Obama "may be terrorist-connected," based on a Fox News report about a Hamas "endorsement." The remark drew a sort of perplexed and outraged response. (A Democratic superdelegate from the state, Lincoln Davis, declared through an aide that while "he does not know for sure if Obama is terrorist connected...he assumes he is not.") Fred Hobbs quickly apologized while Bill Hobbs (not related) pounced on the Democratic dysfunction: "It is interesting to see that the state party claims to be unified behind Barack Obama but it is clearly not true."

More objective sources were forced to insist that (polling be damned) the state was not inherently anti-Obama. But even they admit that the rhetoric emanating from their state, at least so far, has represented the greatest pushing of political boundaries.

"That came out of left field," Whitehouse said of Fred Hobbs' comment. "You are going to have people associated with every party and every state in the nation, you will have people like that. I don't think it is a cultural thing... Does it look bad for Tennessee that both guys named Hobbs are doing this? Yes it looks bad. It is embarrassing as hell. But I don't think these guys represent what mainstream Tennesseans believe."

There has been some lament within conservative circles over the absence of a clearly defined attack machine to take on Barack Obama. T. Boone Pickens, the financier of the Swift Boat Veterans for Trut...
There has been some lament within conservative circles over the absence of a clearly defined attack machine to take on Barack Obama. T. Boone Pickens, the financier of the Swift Boat Veterans for Trut...
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- MizFlagPin I'm a Fan of MizFlagPin 21 fans permalink

Tennesseans in urban areas are working extremely hard to deliver their state's electoral votes to Obama.

So what if there are rural racist still hoping to resurrect the Confederate. Who really cares about what they have to say as it relates to Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 07/03/2008
- NoOtherWay I'm a Fan of NoOtherWay 3 fans permalink
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Things just aren't the same since Opryland closed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 07/03/2008
- zoozey I'm a Fan of zoozey 35 fans permalink

As a Tennessean, and a white liberal, I will try to explain this, though I don't know if it will make sense...

We in the south, who call ourselves, "liberal," may indeed be outnumbered by conservatives. However, we tend to be MORE liberal than Democrats from other parts of the country. Does that make sense?

Or maybe you just try harder when you're out-numbered!

In the south, even though we have a stereotype reputation for being racist, some of you in other states might be surprised at interaction between Whites and Blacks in the south, while I have observed a lot of awkwardness in many of my friends from northern and midwestern states toward Blacks.

Remember that many well-know liberals hail from the south: Jimmy Carter, Al Gore, Bill Moyers

Still, I am ashamed to admit that last week when I was at the mercy of my rural town auto repair place, I took my Obama sticker off my car first. My car has 250,000 miles on it and I can't afford a new one....

Yet then, I will feel so good when I am riding along and I see another person with a big, fat OBAMA sticker proudly displayed. I look and they might be White and average-Joe looking just like me,and it makes me feel so good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 07/01/2008
- zull2 I'm a Fan of zull2 36 fans permalink
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The easy access to right wing radio shock jocks and Fox News is the reason why it's so difficult. In contrast, there's hardly any worthwhile access to left wing radio and of course, access to television news that doesn't ally itself with the right wing is tough to find anywhere. It's no coincidence that's how it worked out, either...that's all a part of the conservative plan. Control the airwaves, constantly repeat "liberal media" as if it were true, and rake in the votes from misinformation. After all, the stuff that conservatives preach, if you look 1 inch deep and think about it, doesn't really help anyone who makes less than a couple hundred grand a year. Not as many of them as there are of all the rest, but they still need that working class vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 07/01/2008

I drove through Kentucky on business and couldn't get anything on the car radio but religion, right wing talk, and B list country music.

So, no wonder there are a lot of ignorant and delusional people in the South, their airwaves give them no clue that there is another point of view in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 07/01/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 64 fans permalink
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racism and the south are linked for obvious reasons, but the south does not have a lock on prejudice. there's plenty of segregation in the north.
"ignorance is everywhere
and people have their ways"
Phil Ochs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 07/01/2008

A lot of the conservatism in Tennessee - or at least Middle Tennessee where I reside - can be blamed on talk radio. We've got all the major talking blowhards spread out over 2 stations: Limbaugh, o'Reilly, Beck, Hannity, Savage. And the lesser-known but equally popular local yokels who fill in the blanks but use all the same talking points: Phil Valentine, Michael DelGiorno, Steve Gill, Ralph Bristol.
They're all over the place and sadly, it's where a LOT of our residents get their "news."

I wish I could say I think Tennessee might be one of those "red" states that will go blue for Obama this year, but I doubt it. But thanks to the math of our electoral college, he won't need us to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 07/01/2008
- Camel54 I'm a Fan of Camel54 19 fans permalink

Our conservatives here in Tennessee are not even very good conservatives. Sure they talk a good game based on what they hear on those radio shows, but then the state goes and elects a great Dem governor. Then, when the governor has to cut back on our socialized health care system (see TennCare) b/c the Republicans refuse to work with him on budge issues, the general public, mostly conservative, goes crazy about him taking the state sponsored health care away. Yeah, they'll be damned if they're going to elect some "liberal socialist" president, but take away their TennCare (which they abuse horribly keep in mind) and they freak out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 07/03/2008
- genseric13 I'm a Fan of genseric13 6 fans permalink

Liberals in the South are the guys I remember who got beat up everyday by the blacks and they are just plain scared. I used to defend them all the time on the playground. They believe if you keep giving them freebies, they won't kill your children and rape your wife.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 07/01/2008
- Camel54 I'm a Fan of Camel54 19 fans permalink

Are you suggesting that blacks are out to kill my children and rape my wife because I'm a white, southern liberal? I'm sorry, I don't understand your insane, nonsensical jabbering. Could you have it translated into a non-prejud­ice-hate-f­illed language? Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 07/03/2008
- genseric13 I'm a Fan of genseric13 6 fans permalink

Nothing in the water. They are just very smart and wise people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 06/30/2008

No seriously, they are not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 07/01/2008

Neither of you are right.

Figure that out if you can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 07/01/2008
- Lynette I'm a Fan of Lynette 3 fans permalink

Jim Crow droppings, it's Tennessee for goodness sakes. Martin Luther King was assassinated in crazy Tennessee. Have you been to the deep South? It can be a very scary place...like traveling to Beruit...parts of the landcape are beautiful but the war that happened there is evident.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 07/01/2008
- sherbug I'm a Fan of sherbug 49 fans permalink

Let me tell you wha't smart about the right wing. They paint Obama as a Muslim terrorist, yet they say McCain is better on national security because Obamam, the terrorist, is soft on terror. Now at the same time Obama is a terrorist Muslim, he spends 20 years as a member of a radical christian church with a preacher that damns America. I ask you which is it? Muslim terrorist or radical christian.

The GOP makes reference to Ayers as evidence that Obama is a terrorist. Well I ask you and your GOP buddies, if the United States Government didn't think Ayers was a threat to national security, then why should anyone else?. Why was Ayers teaching at the Unv. of Chicago, instead of being in prison?

Wise and smart, I think not. I think better the GOP is desparate and confused.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 07/01/2008

I agree, so much so I am ready to allow the great state of Tennessee to secede from the union as they once wanted to do. I promise not to be part of any force that would go to Tennessee to kick their asses, again, to rejoin the union. Best of luck

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 07/01/2008
- Camel54 I'm a Fan of Camel54 19 fans permalink

Instead of being a dick, you could always help those of us who wish to change Tennessee do something about it--change some minds and show the people here how they've been voting against their self-interests. Maybe that would be a better option than insulting the entire state because of a stereotype you have in your mind about what type of people we are here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 07/03/2008
- tedbear I'm a Fan of tedbear 6 fans permalink

Turnabout is fair play, and because the Republicans in every state pull out all the stops to win, I truly hope Senator Obama goes to the far left, far right, center, bottom, top to win. Will it hurt him to stoop as low as the Republicans? Not as much as it will hurt him not to stoop as low as the Republicans, because if he doesn't he will not win!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 06/30/2008
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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What's in the water?

For starters, it's completely polluted with KKK!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 06/30/2008
- SuboSubo I'm a Fan of SuboSubo 2 fans permalink

Like many southern and mid-south states, Tennessee is a state of contrasts. There is extreme rural isolation and poverty in some areas. There are also vibrant cities full of great universities, lively arts communities, and exquisite restaurants. Tennessee is too diverse to make easy generalizations.

Yes, some our Republican officials have engaged in the same smear tactics that GOPs in other states have. When a Northern GOP official makes racist comments, I don't hear lots of REGIONAL insults.

Rep. Davis, a Democrat, made equivocating and damaging statements about Senator Obama. He did, however, apologize to the people of Tennessee and to the Tennessee Democratic Party. Sam Stein has reported the insult, but not the apology.

Our Democratic officials here in Tennessee, Governor Phil Bredesen and Gray Sasser (chairman of the Tennessee Democratic Party), have been stellar. They are responsive to local voters & strong supporters of Obama. They held a Unity Breakfast in Nashville within days of Obama's primary victory. They were instrumental in challenging the TN GOP for those nasty anti-Michelle ads.

We also have a dynamic grassroots Obama community. We have house meetings and so many events every weekend that you have to pick and choose.

So, there's nothing in Tennessee water that is not in ALL the water in the US this election cycle.

It's just so much more fun to make fun of Tennessee, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 06/30/2008
- mawrm I'm a Fan of mawrm 24 fans permalink

I guess we in Alabama can now say "Thank God for Tennessee"!!

Folks, we're just going to have to work harder to win over Tennessee. I see it as a challenge, a challenge we can win. Truth is there is A LOT of misinformation circulating in Tennessee and we just have to counter it with truth. We might not win the state in a general election but we're a better team for trying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 06/30/2008
- MrJoyboy I'm a Fan of MrJoyboy 26 fans permalink

Tennesseeans backing Republicans are like the guy who sees his house destroyed by a tornado and says "We put our faith in the Lord and He saved us", never asking why God destroyed his house in the first place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 06/30/2008
- almoguy I'm a Fan of almoguy 4 fans permalink

The great mystery!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 06/30/2008
- Sheridan1 I'm a Fan of Sheridan1 2 fans permalink

Well Dots, the thing of it is is...I was in Nashville for a year before I saw a black person. I finally asked where they were. A friend in the music industry drove me downtown. The culture there was amazing and diverse - artists lofts, liitle blues clubs, people of all colors - it was like being in one of your earlier home towns - NYC.
My conclusion - Nashville, at least, is segregated. Segregated between stupid white people, and smart people of all backgrounds. And the stupid one's get all the press.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 06/30/2008
- awcbuddy8 I'm a Fan of awcbuddy8 8 fans permalink

Chances are, as in most cases, it is the people of color who want to keep things segregated. Wise up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 06/30/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 186 fans permalink

Gee, I wonder why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 06/30/2008
- Sheridan1 I'm a Fan of Sheridan1 2 fans permalink

BobC46 thinks Al Gore is an empty suit! ALERT THE NOBEL COMMITTTEE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 06/30/2008

Wouldn't that qualify Al for a second Nobel in Physics?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 06/30/2008
- Dots I'm a Fan of Dots 9 fans permalink
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WOW. This string has really stirred up the best in people. I certainly find some things I'd change about TN (Nashville) but it's not too good in other places right now either.

Having chosen to live here (after PA & NYC) about 20 years ago because of its climate, topography, reasonable cost of living and friendly people...I also found a symphony, new library, ballet, opera company, theatre and museum of art. We also have many splendid musicians and songwriters and visual artists. (Personally I don't go for the pro football, hockey, baseball or NASCAR but it's here, too.) I have also found a very diverse group of friends who share my interests.

As for what's in the water, I'd guess it's the huge overflow of evangelical baptism water that's been poured on many, many people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 06/30/2008
- BabsfromKS I'm a Fan of BabsfromKS 14 fans permalink
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as in "Grand Ole" opera company??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 06/30/2008
- Dots I'm a Fan of Dots 9 fans permalink
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I actually have been to the Grand Ole "Opry", too, and found it an amazing experience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 06/30/2008
- Javani I'm a Fan of Javani 6 fans permalink

"I think that [Michelle Obama] video, which we put up on YouTube, struck a nerve. It struck a nerve with Democrats and they squealed and they squealed really loud, and it caused a big storm in the media," he told the Huffington Post."

Begrudgingly, a smart guy. Proof is in the pudding, er, posting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 06/30/2008

How bout when McCain said he "started to love America only when he became a POW"?

Yes proof is in the pudding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 06/30/2008
- genseric13 I'm a Fan of genseric13 6 fans permalink

Hmm. I think McCain's idea of loving America is slightly different from someone who has no doubt cursed America many times in her life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 07/01/2008
- BobC46 I'm a Fan of BobC46 6 fans permalink

Voters in Tennessee had agood sense to reject Algore in 2000, and now they are right about an another empty suit, B. Hussein Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 06/30/2008

Yeah? So John McCain is good for you? If so, how?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 06/30/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 186 fans permalink

Gee Bob, let me guess where you are from. Are you saying it was good sense for the voters of Tennessee to vote for our current administration? Are you Mensa or somethin"? Wow. Obama08

Anne Hussein

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 06/30/2008

Bob, Son of Sam, Ward C, Room 46.

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 07/01/2008

What people have to remember with people such as Black Republicans and Gay Republicans and hell women republicans is that the greater society makes attempts to socialize everyone. Messages that blacks are this and that is not completely lost on black people. Some internalize all of the stereotypes and start to hate their own skin.

It just so happens Republicans love the blacks affected by this affliction and love putting them out there to insulate themselves from being called Racist. As a black man, I am completely disgusted with people like this who think they get a free attack because they are black. It is sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 06/30/2008

Maybe, but this is the same thing Republicans call "Liberal Guilt", as in "Why the hell would an intelligent white guy vote Democrat?"

Yes, I've had this asked of me...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 06/30/2008
- awcbuddy8 I'm a Fan of awcbuddy8 8 fans permalink

How is being a black-republican equate to self-hatred? You think Michael Steele hates himself? Or Condi Rice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 06/30/2008
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