Long Lost Beatles Interview Airs On BBC

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GREGORY KATZ | July 1, 2008 02:56 PM EST | AP

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This Oct. 26, 1965 file photo shows John Lennon, left, and Paul McCartney as they smile during a ceremony at Buckingham Palace in London. The British Broadcasting Corp. will air a long lost Beatles interview featuring John Lennon and Paul McCartney talking about the day they met and their songwriting partnership. The precious film sat forgotten for 44 years in a garage in south London until film fan Richard Jeffs realized a piece of pop history was contained inside. (AP Photo, FILE)

LONDON — A Beatles interview from the 1960s in which John Lennon and Paul McCartney discussed the way they composed songs together was broadcast on British radio Tuesday after it was found in a film can in a damp garage in south London.

The Beatles were at the height of their immense popularity when the tape was recorded at Scottish Television studios on April 30, 1964. The band had recently toured America, winning huge audiences on the Ed Sullivan show and shooting to the top of the charts on both sides of the Atlantic.

The interview was only broadcast in Scotland and sat in a film canister until it was discovered by film historian Richard Jeffs, who was astonished to find the familiar Liverpudlian accents of the Beatles on the tape. It was not immediately clear who owned the garage or why the film was there.

The audio portion of the tape was found to be still usable for radio broadcast, allowing the British Broadcasting Corp. to showcase its interview 44 years after it was recorded.

On the nine-minute tape, Lennon describes the fateful day in rock-and-roll history when he first encountered McCartney. Both were unknown teenagers at the time.

"I was playing at a garden fete in the ... village where I lived just outside Liverpool, playing with a group, and he came along and we met," said Lennon, who was a member of a soon-to-be-forgotten skiffle band at the time.

McCartney said they were introduced by a mutual friend called Ivan.

Lennon and McCartney became fast friends _ once they found out they had skills in common, and a shared taste for American stars like Fats Domino and Little Richard _ and they soon joined up with teenage guitarist George Harrison to form the nucleus of what would become the Beatles.

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Drummer Ringo Starr would come much later, just before the group started its string of unforgettable No. 1 hits.

On the tape, Lennon and McCartney _ hailed by many as the finest British songwriters of the 20th century _ discussed the haphazard way they composed together during the Beatles' early days, when they were under intense pressure to generate hits while keeping up a bone-crushing touring schedule.

McCartney said that the two usually worked on songs together but that sometimes Lennon wrote songs completely on his own.

"Normally we sit down and try and bash one out," said McCartney. "But then again, there's no formula, because he (Lennon) can come up with one one day completely finished. We still say we both wrote it, though."

The two principal songwriters, who would later have a falling-out as the band was breaking up, sounded extremely relaxed and affectionate with each other.

McCartney said they used whatever instrument was available when composing.

"Well, you know, it depends," he said. "Sometimes we write them on old pianos, anything that's lying around."

McCartney, who would later pen classics such as "Eleanor Rigby" and "Let It Be," told the interviewers that he and Lennon started off writing comical songs, including his first effort, the largely forgotten, "I Lost My Little Girl."

While the Beatles eventually wearied of the pressures of live performances, when they couldn't hear their own songs because of the noise from the fans, McCartney said in 1964 that they adored the attention they received from their screaming, fainting female fans.

"We love that," he said. "The atmosphere in the theaters. It's marvelous."

The BBC posted a notice on its Web site indicating that the precious tape, and a number of others found at the same time, are now being kept in a temperature-controlled warehouse to protect them from the ravages of time.

LONDON — A Beatles interview from the 1960s in which John Lennon and Paul McCartney discussed the way they composed songs together was broadcast on British radio Tuesday after it was found in a ...
LONDON — A Beatles interview from the 1960s in which John Lennon and Paul McCartney discussed the way they composed songs together was broadcast on British radio Tuesday after it was found in a ...
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Whether one likes, dislikes, loves, or loathes the Beatles, it is sheer ignorance to deny their importance to popular music. They were and still remain to be the finest example of complete pop music mastery. No one's done it like them and no one ever wil. Period!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 07/03/2008

While the Beatles music was/is great, evidenced by 40 years of continuous airplay, their importance is they were smart enough to make artistic demands that still exist today. My 28 year old musician son realizes without the Beatles there would be no Nirvana, no U2, no Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc. etc. etc. They influenced and even changed culture on a global basis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 07/02/2008
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If it wasn't for the Beatles, who resurrected rock and roll in America, we would still be listening to the Four Lads, there would not have been a Woodstock, no animals, no stones, no kinks, no gerry and the pacemakers, and no 60s...........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 07/02/2008

Sounds as vapid as any other interview by this boy band.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 07/01/2008

Let's hear your favorites.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 07/01/2008

I am not particularly bothered by such comments. Trying to understand what The Beatles meant to their generation is the same as trying to explain Elvis or Sinatra. You like them or you don't.

What I do think is interesting is how no individual or group since has been as influential, which doesn't mean a lot of great music isn't being made. Since The Beatles, individuals and groups have had a much shorter shelf life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 07/02/2008
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Yet not nearly as vapid as your dismissive and astonishingly ignorant comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 07/02/2008
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Silly mopheads only had 20 Billboard # 1 hits - and that doesn't count #1's in other countries - and they wrote their own music, name one other "Boy Band" that did that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 07/02/2008
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Actually having #1 hits doesn't equal quality in my opinion. KISS for example probably had a few hits at one point. The thing about the Beatles is that they broke a lot of new ground. They did things that no one else had ever done and they kept on trying new stuff. Before them (this is for the kiddies) the idea of a group that wrote and performed their own song was pretty much unheard of. People wrote songs and got singers to perform them usually with studio musicians. Lets face it their early songs were pretty empty as far as the lyrics went. But what was so great about them is that they didn't just take one thing and keep on trying to do it again. They learned from other people (Dylan) and also helped to bring other groups into the spotlight (Rolling Stones).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 07/02/2008

the point is that people have a fierce love for these guys. any bit of anything 'new' is an awesome gift. it doesn't have to mean anything, or shed any new light. it's just a poignant reminder of lost youth, greatness, and man, oh man how much we miss john, and what he might have done. the way things are now, in our talentless world, the beatles would not even get signed to a deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/01/2008
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I saw the Beatles Play at Balboa Stadium San Diego. The Ticket Price was $5. My Buddy, who loved them also, said "$5!" I wouldn't pay $5 to see Anybody!" He has talked about it recently and says it was the biggest concert going mistake he ever made, and has since seen Paul's New Band in LA.
They were very cool, especially John who was doing goofy things and inspiring the audience to make some more noise. It was wall to wall screams just like in all the videos and You could hear them pretty good , just depending on the scream level at the time. Anyway bwaynester, the Beatles were turned down then for a record deal, but persisted and EMI finally got capital in the USA to go along, and the rest is history.
I believe that would happen again today. Incredible talent finds a way.
I know what You are saying though. Growing up listening to Hendrix, Joplin,The Stones (Saw their first gig ever in the US at the Swing in San Berdo) and all the rest, gives our Generation a perspective the kids of today can never imagine or appreciate, Very Blessed we were, indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 AM on 07/02/2008
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yeah, crx - the ticket the radio station gave us (we had to use it to enter the gator bowl) said $5.00 also. i still have the stub. i saw them for free - the radio station flew 56 of us up from miami in what was my first jet/plane ride.

for us, a hurricane had just passed thru, the sound system was what it was in 64 - inadequate - and the screams were deafening. with the winds still whirling about, we heard them, but sometimes it was in waves depending on the wind. the big story: we saw their foreheads. seriously. that was one of the mentions in the story the miami papers did afterwards. i wrote down their songlist. i have all my memorabilia from that night.

our seats were mid-field. not bad, actually. we could see them, but could see them really well with binocs. i wasn't a screamer btw. why bother, was my thought. everyone else did a good job of doing that. i took pix with my brownie hawkeye.

i remember that when john announced ringo's solo the crowd went absolutely hysterical. he did "boys".

what a time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 07/02/2008
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One of the things I find interesting about Lennon and McCartney is how they complemented each other so well. Even in the later years where they weren't collaborating nearly as much, there was still an energy they had together that they could never duplicate on their own. John was intense, intuitive, passionate and Paul was professional and exacting. Of the two I prefer John's music but he was nothing on his own compared to what he created with Paul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/01/2008
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you know, what you've said is so true, so true. the reason they hit it big was because of that magical undefinable synergistic thing. it was the right connection for all of them. the magic didn't happen with any other combination, and there were a couple or so before the final four. there has to be something to that.

btw, i'm 60 years old. i won, yes, won!!! a trip to see the beatles in 1964 on their first american tour from a local radio station. i saw them in jacksonville florida in the gator bowl. a timeless unbelieveable moment - with no real sound system and an entire stadium filled with teens screaming at the top of their lungs - like many jet engines all at once revving up. i've only met one other person who saw that first american tour - he saw them in boulder, colorado. there were thousands and thousands of us. it's just that i've only met one other person who saw them the same tour i saw them.

i frankly loved that time.

what a wonderful time. the world has missed a great talent and a great mind in john lennon since his death. we mourn the loss of george. i saw mccartney in concert on those first rounds of recent tours a few years ago and it was magical in its own way (he was with heather - alas!).

good times. good times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 07/02/2008
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Wow, you were so lucky to see them live. Its funny my parents were so conservative that when they came on the seen I never paid much attention. I was obsessed with classical music as a kid and didn't get into the Beatles until after they broke up. But then I was into their music in a big way, especially John. I was (still am) very into politics and all his passion for causes really inspired me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 07/02/2008
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so young, so much lay ahead, both good and bad. We fans are the ones who have enjoyed them so much over all these years. I still have to shake my head in sorrow thinking of John and George already gone. We must appreciate Ringo and Paul while they are still here and rocking. Only 13 days til I go see Ringo in concert.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 07/01/2008

Ringo was definitely underrated as a drummer. Back in the day I thought he was nothing special, but then I started listening to the way he drove the beat on songs like I Saw Her Standing There, Twist and Shout, and Boys. He was originally a country music fan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 07/01/2008
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Ringo! The others were so earnest. John with his creative political statements and Paul with his vegan farm. Not George- George just became invisible. And he was acknowledged to be the better musician of the four, yet he never put his personality out there for scrutiny.

Ringo was the one who seemed most able to make fun of himself. Loved that guy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zHeRq6DdxHE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 07/02/2008

strange i had a dream last night about the beatles

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 07/01/2008
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Moderator, please remove any negative comments about the Beatles by loser American Idol/Bon Jovi fans. Their opinion doesn't count for squat. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 07/01/2008
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and your opinion is more valuable because why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 07/01/2008

Because he has good taste. If that also makes him a latte-swilling libtard elite, so be it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 07/01/2008
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Please. I love the Beatles too but a little bad mouthing isn't going to hurt their legacy. Its called free speech. Let the American Idol/whatever dopes make their comments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 07/01/2008
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Details, please
How did this fan find the film in a garage?? How did he know that it had been there so long? If it is in film form, how did he know what it was, and how did he listen to the audio? These questions deserve an answer and are equally as important as the content itself is.
Journalism is indeed dead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 07/01/2008

Damn good point. What gives? The interview is news, of course, but so is the discovery!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 07/01/2008
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just look at those beautiful young vibrant faces. the time of their lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 07/01/2008

I was thinking the very same thing. That sort of thing is all but impossible now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 07/01/2008

Yesterday.....all our troubles seemed so far away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 07/01/2008

Not sure what the point is. Is it just that it was "lost" for so long? Or does it contain anything truly enlightening? After all, the story of their first meeting has already been thoroughly documented, most artfully through Jim O'Donnell's book The Day John Met Paul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 07/01/2008
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