Obama Donors Told Fundraising A Bit Slow, Urged To Help Clinton

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First Posted: 07- 9-08 09:48 PM   |   Updated: 07-17-08 05:12 AM

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Major donors to Barack Obama's campaign were told Wednesday evening that fundraising efforts were "a little slow" and that they should help retire Hillary Clinton's campaign debt so that the New York Democrat's supporters would, in turn, give to Obama.

"There was no negativity about Hillary," said one Democrat. "In fact the opposite. Fundraising is a little slow and it is very important to ramp it up. Hillary donors are a major source of donor dollars. The message to the troops was 'Get your five checks for Hillary in so that you can ask her donors to give to Barack.'"

The campaign finance team call was made as Clinton and Obama appeared together in New York for a joint fundraiser.

It also came on the heels of a New York Times report that top Obama donors have resisted helping retire the Clinton campaign's debt. The story was downplayed by Clinton confidante Terry McAuliffe, who said on MSNBC that hard feelings between the camps amounted to just a "couple people."

"The idea that the New York Times is going to do another story whacking Hillary Clinton, this is news?" he asked. "Of course not."

But tensions were apparently high enough that the Obama campaign felt the need to address them. In a separate interview, a major Clinton fundraiser said a small number of her compatriots continue to feel upset about their diminished status.

"For better or worse, the Clinton people are used to being courted, and the Obama folks have just a different philosophy," said the donor. "Some of the Clinton people have gotten demanding. Some of them wanted titles, and I think that is totally inappropriate. Why should any Clinton person get to jump ahead of any Obama folks? They want jobs, they want recognition, they want to be in the paper. They want to be considered for an ambassadorship. It is all about ego."

The one-time Clinton backer added: "I happen to think the Obama folks are right. Politicians should not have to spend so much time pandering to the bundlers or donors. But if you are used to that kind of treatment, one might misinterpret that as not caring about their needs."

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The remarks echo many of the sentiments expressed by Clinton donors in the Times story, which reported that Obama supporters have forked over a paltry $100,000 (with more in pledges) so far to Clinton's debt.

But not everyone is so concerned about relations between the two groups. One fundraiser for Obama told the Huffington Post that "the integration of national fundraising teams" always has some turbulence, but that, contrary to press reports, the current friction was "a tempest in a thimble."

"When you move to a new town you learn the culture and the cadence," he said. "There are meetings happening all the time. I have a meeting tonight in my region. We are working to get all the Hillstars involved."

Another donor said she fully expects the issue to be resolved in time with the majority Clinton backers falling in line.

And yet, in interviews with four separate fundraisers (for both Obama and Clinton) there was no shortage of explanations provided for why animosity between the two camps still exists. One individual claimed that the Obama campaign was simply not putting pressure on his donors to help Clinton with her debt.

"They don't feel any penalty for not doing it," she said. "And they won't donate to her if there isn't an incentive to do so."

Another individual stressed that the fact that much of the money would be going to the pockets of Mark Penn -- and that Penn had recently teamed up with former Bush adviser Karen Hughes -- was stymieing donations.

Major donors to Barack Obama's campaign were told Wednesday evening that fundraising efforts were "a little slow" and that they should help retire Hillary Clinton's campaign debt so that the New York ...
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- fflores I'm a Fan of fflores 2 fans permalink

Even if i don't agree with the vote on FISA bill... see... i agree with about 95% of what O-bama stand for... and i agree with about 2% of what McSame stands for....

I'll send double what i've sent and i suggest others to do the same as its obvious that most people are basically idiots and can't seem to comprehend a larger picture

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 07/10/2008

I don't get this whining over helping Hillary with her debt. Clinton donars are largely an untapped well for Obama, and can give to him many times over what Hillary's campaign debt is. It's I scratch your back you give me a BJ from Obama's perspective. It's not all about the money, it's about respect for many Clinton supporters.

And FISA, really get over it people. Think of a Republican Supreme Court for the next 10 to 20 years. Not pleasant isn't it. This telecom immunity will be the least of the Constitution shredding should McCain get elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 07/10/2008

Her debt will be paid off by the weekend. So you can stop losing sleep over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/10/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

Didn't you say in another post that it was already paid?? BTW we're not losing sleep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 07/16/2008

Given that Obama has sided with McCain on the Supreme Courts 2nd amendment interpretation and thinks the Supreme Court was wrong on striking down the death penalty for child rapist, it seems the evidence points to Obama's appointing conservative justices not liberal ones. They might not be as bad a McCain's but I don't see any evidence that he'll be nominating the next Thurgood Marshall either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 07/10/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

I thought we were trying to win an election, not about 'respect' for Clinton supporters. Respect is a 2 way street and it is earned, not demanded. So far it looks like scratch our backs, we'll put a knife in yours!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 07/16/2008
- rzan1 I'm a Fan of rzan1 51 fans permalink

I'm not sure how they know that Obama supporters have donated 100,000 to Hillary. I donated to her, but no one asked me if I was an Obama supporter or a HIllary supporter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 07/10/2008

I don't think they do know. It would be impossible to differentiate. And thanks for your donation and stand for party unity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 07/10/2008
- rssrai I'm a Fan of rssrai 14 fans permalink

From what I am reading from these so called democrats I am ashamed. No one issue or one person is more important than electing a democrat for president. FISA is just one damn issue, and Hillary is not bigger than the democratic party. If her supporters were just for her and not for the democratic party than maybe they aren't real democrats after all. Any democrat that would vote for McBush is no real democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 07/10/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

I agree. A bunch of loud, pushy women who think they are entitled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 07/16/2008

After Obama lack of leadership on the FISA legislation, I have decided to take the money that I would give his campaign and give it to the ACLU who will fight for civil liberties.

I believe that Progressives across the country should protest Obama's lack of leadership on this issue as well as campaign finance reform by voting with our wallets, purses and pocketbooks.

No more for you Mr. Obama until you show leadership and not just campaign rhetoric.

By the way let HRC retire her own Gdamn campaign debt. We owe her NOTHING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 07/10/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 74 fans permalink
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I feel the same way. HRC I'm sure voted for FISA, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 07/10/2008

Um, no she didn't. What planet are you on?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 07/10/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

No, she put her finger in the wind to see which way was popular as usual.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 07/16/2008

The FISA bill was not a perfect bill, and shame on the Media for distorting what the bill actually is. The Media is out to cut off the Obama campaign from its supporters. Had Obama voted against the FISA bill it would have been him being a normal politician and pandering for votes. McCain didn't even show to vote.

The FISA bill ensures that the FISA court must issue an warrant before the gov't can wiretap anyone. As of right now Bush can wiretap anyone with or without a warrant which he has been doing. The bill at least forces the gov't to go to court. That is a good thing.

I do not like the civil immunity part, but Bush said he would VETO the bill if it didn't have that provision. That only means that individuals or the gov't can not sue the telecoms for damages. The Criminal component is not to put the telecoms in jail, they only did what the Bush Adm (the real criminals) asked them to do.

Let me give my unenlighted people a quick heads up, Amadou Diallo was shot 41 times by the Gov't because he allegedly didn't do what they asked him to do. Can anyone imagine what the Bush Adm would have done to the telecoms if they had not did what they asked. The telecoms broke the law, but it was the President asking them to do it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/10/2008
- Melizzy I'm a Fan of Melizzy 17 fans permalink

You have the facts wrong. FISA already required a warrant, although it could be retroactive up to a week. Bushco just conveniently ignored this little pesky law and is now trying to cover his arse after getting caught. This bill totally changes the oversight to the Inspector General, who is basically impotent to do anything. It allows "basket warrants" which means they can basically choose any group of people they want, wiretap them, sift through their emails, and then use anything they find against them in a court of law. It's a bad bill. Go to Feingold's page and ready more on why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 07/10/2008
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 22 fans permalink

Your reasoning shows why the Democrats are always losing to the Republicans in this government no matter who has the majority and no matter who has the support of the public.

If Obama had said that he would only accept a bill that eliminated the Telco immunity, then there might have been a chance to get the amendment accepted. Then if Bush threatened to veto the bill, Obama would ask why the telco immunity was more important to Bush than the security of the nation. After all, the Republicans said that the FISA bill needed to be passed before August so as not to wreck our intelligence gathering capabilities. Would they really be willing to scuttle our intelligence if they couldn't get telco immunity.

Instead Obama gave away his negotiating power by admitting up front that he would have to vote for the bill even if he could not strip it of telco immunity.

If this is how Obama and Democrats use negotiation instead of force with adversaries, no wonder nobody trusts them with national security. If you are going to claim that negotiating is better, you have to give examples where you have negotiated and won something.

If Obama cannot think of some way to undo the damage that he has done, we are going to start a campaign among the convention delegates to give the presidential nomination to someone else. Hillary, Gore.

Now mister smarty pants new politician change agent, figure out how to solve that problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 07/10/2008
- rwt1138 I'm a Fan of rwt1138 12 fans permalink

I agree. The Republicans have mastered the art of the double-edged vote; until the Democrats recognize this and learn to counter with a double-edged response, they will continue to get outplayed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 07/10/2008
- BhunduBoy I'm a Fan of BhunduBoy 5 fans permalink

Fund raising is at record breaking speed mainly thanks to the Internet. We don't need nor want lobbyists to precondition US politics. This article is a hoax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 07/10/2008
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Yet another O supporter who is feeling incredibly let down and disillusioned over O's vote on FISA. I might give to O again if I think McC has a chance; until he proves to this little tiny bit of the base that helped him get to where he is now that he is who he portrayed himself to be during the last year, though, I really don't see much money coming from me. Let alone to HRC on his behest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 07/10/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 74 fans permalink
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Me too. That's why I emailed and said he won't get any more money from me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 07/10/2008
- landmine I'm a Fan of landmine 4 fans permalink

Fundraising wouldn't be slow if Obama hadn't started sounding like all the other mush-mouthed politicians.
My wallet snapped tight in the last couple weeks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 07/10/2008
- GiveUsFree I'm a Fan of GiveUsFree 18 fans permalink
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Obama placed his campaign in our hands and we abandon him based on one disagreement. I guess FISA (suing a bunch of telecoms) is more important than ending the IRAQ WAR, Education, Health Care, and Energy reform. FISA is more important than Roe vs. Wade, equal pay for women and a host of other issues that we all agree with Sen. Obama on. Being a one-issue voter is the stupidest sh*t I have ever heard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 07/10/2008
- j0em0mma I'm a Fan of j0em0mma 36 fans permalink
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This vote was a about a whole lot more than immunity, and you'd know that if you read even a tenth of the posts from those of us trying to explain this. You really don't want to know. See no evil, hear no evil... you get the gist...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 07/10/2008
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 22 fans permalink

How do you know that Obama will do what you expect after he gets into office?

He hasn't even been given the nomination yet and he is already going back on his promises.

We need to send Obama a message. If you don't rectify your FISA mistake, we will give the presidential nomination to someone else. It is not too late for us to change our minds.

If Obama and the Democrats in Congress cannot figure out how to play hardball, then we need to give them a demonstration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 07/10/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 74 fans permalink
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It won't change my vote but did change my mind about contributing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 07/10/2008

mccain and gop end june with 95million....wow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 07/10/2008
- scrutiny1 I'm a Fan of scrutiny1 4 fans permalink

The day I spend my hard earned money bailing out some woman making over $100 million a year will be the day I know I have lost my mind. Hillary should have dropped out of the race when she realized she couldn't afford to stay in it, instead of pretending her fundraising efforts were better than they were. Let PUMA bail her out. They obviously need a relevant cause to focus on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 07/10/2008

Are you on drugs or just stupid. The Clinton's TOGETHER between 2000 and 2008 made just over $100 million. Where are you getting this $100 million a year crap?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 07/10/2008
- scrutiny1 I'm a Fan of scrutiny1 4 fans permalink

I don't care if it was 2008, or between 2000 and 2008, $100 million dollars is a whole lot more than I make. Hillary should pay her own debt, or maybe you can help her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 07/11/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

And this justifies all the wheedling, whining and begging?? Pay your own bleeping bills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 07/16/2008
- TFR I'm a Fan of TFR permalink

Sorry about that Sen. O. I've been donating money regularly to your campaign since the beginning, but I'm one of those pissed off liberals who think you sold us out with your FISA vote. Maybe you remember us? We were your base a few months ago? I will still vote for you in the general; but you've become just another "lesser of two evils" candidate for me. I don't pony up cash to folks I don't feel I can trust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 07/10/2008
- gditty I'm a Fan of gditty 27 fans permalink
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Not to worry....Obama can revisit FISA easier from the inside (POTUS) than from the outside.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 07/10/2008
- joeyp404 I'm a Fan of joeyp404 4 fans permalink
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And do what exactly? Repeal immunity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/10/2008
- EdCoughlin I'm a Fan of EdCoughlin 10 fans permalink

Same here. I gave 1000 during the primary but will not give him another penny through the general, he's lucky he's getting my vote after the FISA debacle. Instead I'm giving my campaign money to Susan Davis (my representative) who stood up for the rights of Americans and voted against it in the House. At least some democrats aren't shameless cowards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 07/10/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

Too bad you folks don't know how to rally around the pertinent issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 07/16/2008
- landmine I'm a Fan of landmine 4 fans permalink

Come on Huff Post,
I just posted a similar, but shorter post and you "moderated" me. What is up with you guys?
Can't you read your own policies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 07/10/2008
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TFR: I'll send him $50 today .... I'll send it for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 07/10/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 74 fans permalink
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Better send some for me, too. I decided I need to take care of my own bills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 07/10/2008
- ssg13565 I'm a Fan of ssg13565 22 fans permalink

What a way to negotiate. Tell Obama that you will vote for him no matter what he does.

Show him how hardball is played. We need to start a movement to get the convention to give the nomination to someone else. And please do not whisper to him that we don't really mean it.

No wonder the Democrats are such losers. Even when they have all the power they need, they do not know how to use it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 07/10/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

7 Up Yours!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/16/2008
- lboucher I'm a Fan of lboucher 2 fans permalink

Ah ah now what was I going to say? Oh yeah if you want to help the Clintons send some money.
If not whatever!

Sen. Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 PM on 07/10/2008
- bish66 I'm a Fan of bish66 4 fans permalink

I wonder about Obama's finances. He amassed millions of dollars and flooded the later primaries with obscene amounts of cash. But that cash was only for the primaries. So, will he return the surplus donations to the donors? Will he hand it over to the Democratic party or will he keep it for the next primaries?

Obviously, he can't use the money as he wishes, because otherwise, he could have taken these 'useless' dollars to settle her debt.
Obviously, his supporters are deaf to his appeals to help Clinton. Closet PUMAs?
I mean, $100.000 in more than a month! With a guy who usually received $1.000.000 per DAY. And these $100.000 include the $2.300 he gave to her. Makes it even worse...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 07/10/2008
- lvogt I'm a Fan of lvogt 25 fans permalink

I'm not giving Clinton any money. I'm not giving money to someone with 90 Million dollars just to pay their bills. She's got 18 Million supporters that can give her a dollar each.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 07/10/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

Maybe she could starting charging McCain for the use of her playbook!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 07/16/2008

She ran up her debt after the race was over. Every penny was spent to hurt Obama's chances in November and now he's asking his supporters to repay her? I think the Clinton's are secretly running his campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 07/10/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 74 fans permalink
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I've wondered about that, as far as explaining what he's done in recent weeks. It seems like an outside influence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 07/10/2008
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