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Phil Gramm: Recession Is "Mental," America Is "Nation Of Whiners" (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 07-10-08 10:05 AM   |   Updated: 07-18-08 05:12 AM

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In an interview with the Washington Times, McCain's top economic adviser Phil Gramm tells America to suck it up and stop complaining about the economy:

"You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession," he said, noting that growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices. "We may have a recession; we haven't had one yet."


"We have sort of become a nation of whiners," he said. "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline" despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.

Gramm, whose extensive ties to Enron proved problematic during the firm's implosion several years ago, was serving as a lobbyist for the international banking and subprime mortgage giant UBS until April. As Mother Jones documented, Gramm played a key role in the subprime meltdown during his time in the Senate.

Just yesterday, McCain himself said "I would imagine that we are" in a recession. But he and Gramm are still on the same page: in April McCain said "a lot of our problems today are psychological."

UPDATE: Responses to Gramm's remarks: Democratic National Committee spokesperson Karen Finney:

What John McCain, George Bush Phil Gramm just don't understand is that the American people aren't whining about the state of the economy, they are suffering under the weight of it -- the weight of eight years of Bush-enomics that John McCain and Phil Gramm have vowed to continue. How dare John McCain and his advisers so callously dismiss the challenges the American people face. no wonder voters feel John McCain is out of touch, he and his campaign don't even understand the everyday issues Americans are dealing with.

From Obama's campaign:

"One of Senator McCain's top economic advisors may think that when people are struggling with lost jobs, stagnant wages, and the rising costs of everything from gas to groceries, it's merely a 'mental recession'. And Senator McCain may think it's sufficient to offer energy proposals that he admits will have mainly 'psychological' benefits. But the American people know that our economic problems aren't just in their heads. They don't need psychological relief - they need real relief - and that's what Barack Obama will provide as President," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

From McCain's campaign:

"Phil Gramm's comments are not representative of John McCain's views. John McCain travels the country every day talking to Americans who are hurting, feeling pain at the pump and worrying about how they'll pay their mortgage. That's why he has a realistic plan to deliver immediate relief at the gas pump, grow our economy and put Americans back to work."

UPDATE: McCain jokes about making Gramm ambassador to Belarus:

McCain himself tried to diffuse growing criticism over Gramm's comments with some humor. Asked if there was chance that Gramm would be his Secretary of Treasury, McCain responded: "I think Senator Gramm would be in serious consideration for ambassador to Belarus, although I'm not sure the citizens of Minsk would welcome that."

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Obama personally addressed the controversy while campaigning in Virginia:

"I want all of you to know that America already has one Dr. Phil," Obama said, laughing as the crowd cheered. "We don't need another one when it comes to the economy. We need somebody to actually solve the economy. It's not just a figment of your imagination, it's not all in your head."


"It isn't whining to ask government to step in and give families some relief," he said, drawing a standing ovation from the nearly 3,000 people in a high school gymnasium. "And I think it's time we had a president who doesn't deny our problems or blame the American people for them but takes responsibility and provides the leadership to solve them."

UPDATE: McCain also said economic troubles were 'psychological': A highlight reel that McCain's campaign surely doesn't want floating around today:

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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
nonconformist2
Hypocrisy Thy Name is Tea Party
10:49 PM on 07/13/2008
When you are sitting at your kitchen table trying to decide between buying gas or buying groceries, because you sure as h-ell can't afford both, just remember..........it's all in your mind.
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nonconformist2
Hypocrisy Thy Name is Tea Party
10:44 PM on 07/13/2008
The banks are collapsing on the wake of irresponsible mortgage lending practice. Who allowed this to happen. Anti-regulation republicans. Who is the biggest cheerleader for deregulation of the banks? You guessed it: Phil "it's all in your mind" Gramm. Does the MSM report on this? No, of course note. They prefer to focus on flag pins.
09:46 PM on 07/12/2008
I like it when they say McSame threw Gramm under the bus and asked to step down as his Economic adviser. Wink Wink Gramm is still in his campaign committed as vice chair. Wow glad to hear he really threw him under the bus.
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07:52 PM on 07/12/2008
The entire bunch gives me a royal rash. Its time to take them to the rubbish, implicate all of them, impeach and federally prosecute them all. They have injured too many good people for too long, time to pay the piper.
10:43 PM on 07/11/2008
Another story that MSM doesn't tell is that Phil Gramm's wife, Wendy, was on the board of Enron. Wendy Gramm sold her Enron stock and got millions just like Ken Lay. Phil Gramm sponsered legislation that allowed Enron to operate in the manner that destroyed the lives of so many.

Imagine what MSM would do if Obama had these crooks, Phil and Wendy, as advisors.
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waynesmyer
10:08 AM on 07/12/2008
TIMETOREVOLT: Response: When Dick Cheney set up his secret "evergy" committee, he also established 200 off-shore numbered accounts in Barbados . These 200 Barbados Bank accounts included the members of his "secret" energy committee, which is said to include Sen. Pgil Gramm and his wife, Wendy who was on the ENRON board. The start-up deposits for these accounts was over 63 million dollars from ENRON "retirement" funds! Why has no one investigated this! Who were the other 198 ":secret" account members? Gee! I guess we will never know?
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nonconformist2
Hypocrisy Thy Name is Tea Party
10:47 PM on 07/13/2008
Not to mention that Phil Gramm, with encouragement from his wife, was the biggest cheerleader to the "Enron loophole". What's the "Enron Loophole"? This is what allows oil speculators to drive up the price of oil and thus drive up the price of gas. Do the MSM report on this? No, of course not.
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BlueZoo
Independent voter, Independent thinker!
02:57 PM on 07/11/2008
When ANY of these men, or their ladies, can tell me the price of a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread, then and ONLY then will I try to see their points of view! I reserve the right to whine all I want when I pull up to the pump or the grocery store! It's just about the only right I have left after this administration!
01:44 PM on 07/11/2008
Let them eat cake.
Phil Gramm and Marie Attoinette, appear to be of the same cut of cloth.
He is a rich senator, with all the perks, healtcare, retirement, and who knows what else he has accumulated, and he has the gumption to call americans whiners.
Gramm give up your perks, and lets hear you then.
You should be striped of your retirement.
Have you no shame?

Bob
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DaOne
12:23 PM on 07/11/2008
Phil Gramm doesn't speak for me expect that he made these remarks at the Wall Street Journal where he was, in fact, speaking for me!
12:11 PM on 07/11/2008
Phil Gramm looks like a republican Yoda in that picture above.
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keepemhonest
11:34 AM on 07/11/2008
Dear MSNBC, CNN & FOX -

Obama's Top Economic Advisor just said America is "A Nation of whiners" and we are merely in a "mental recession."

Run with it! Do your duty!!! Take this story and jam it down the People's throats for 2000 news cycles!

Get every single political strategist in the country on your shows to say how Obama's Top Economic Advisor just LOST Obama the election!

Repeat over and over and over "Obama's Top Economic Advisor, the man who WROTE Obama's economic policy, the man who Obama sent to the Wall Street Journal to give details on Obama's economic policy just called us a "Nation of whiners" and we're in a "mental recession."

Explain, at nauseam, Obama was too afraid the Wall Street Journal would ask for details about his Economic Policy so he sent his Top Economic Advisor. Remind your viewers Obama is out of touch and Obama said over and over this economy is "psychological" and Obama said, offshore drilling, Reward for building Electric Battery, gas tax holiday will have a "psychological benefit."

Report on THIS story so long that your viewers are so saturated with it they begin to dream about how: "This shows Obama clearly cannot relate to people in Pennsylvania,Indiana,Kentucky,Ohio."

ut oh...wait a minute...dang...It wasn't Obama's Top Economic Advisor that said that...it wasn't the man Obama sent to the Wall Street Journal that...it was John McCain's...never mind....go back to the Jesse Jackson story.
02:08 PM on 07/11/2008
Funny stuff here ... roflmao
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SouthPrairie
It's about WE, not me.
05:09 PM on 07/12/2008
LOL! But sadly true!
11:22 AM on 07/11/2008
Let them eat cake ...
You gotta love "Bush's Base" - at least they're consistently clueless.
And may this finally be a sufficient lesson to the "rest of us" to prevent those without empathy, compassion, or any sense that we're in this together from ever holding power again.
I would hope that the last seven years of hell might have taught us enough that we don't have to revisit the lessons learned?
10:37 AM on 07/11/2008
Phil Gramm’s remarks about Americans whiney attitude toward the economy point our a big problem with understanding the condition of our economy. It is not a matter of not hearing the economic reports from the Bush government, we hear just fine. What we see on the street just doesn’t agree with what we hear. What we are experiencing in the USA is based upon the lack of honest economic data our government puts in their news releases. The data we see in the newspaper isn’t untrue, it is incomplete. So, even a PhD In Economics like Dr. Gramm makes faulty conclusions based on faulty data.
M3, the most complete measure of the money supply, is no longer reported leaving out components that would show monetary growth of a staggering 14% per year. Next, GDP is not accurately reported leaving out components that drag down the number that is actually -2% growth. The inflation statistic is also fudged masking the true rate of 10%. Finally, unemployment is falsified, ignoring the heavily unemployed inner-city, underemployed and discouraged workers; misstating that number as well which is actually 12.5% and growing. (http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data)
Our economy is on the skids and the government is intentionally misleading the people and the markets, a short term solution with disastrous results.
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normathumb
09:44 AM on 07/11/2008
The 2.5 million people going into foreclosure this year should stop whining. The millions more with upside down mortgages should suck it up. All McCain has to do is look around the room. All his friends are doing okay. In fact with the increase per barrel in oil prices, they are doing great. They don't even mind the gas prices. So what is wrong with the rest of you guys? You must be liberals.
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VivaZapata
07:20 AM on 07/11/2008
the currency weakened by the federal reserve is not mental and neither is mortgage crisis created by the unscrupulous and neither is the proposed bailout for those scoundrels. What's mental is the credibility given to efforts to pretend that capitalism works for everyone.
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marijam
Independent
04:46 AM on 07/11/2008
Stupid old white men would try the patience of a saint.
06:12 AM on 07/11/2008
Ain't that the truth! These "people" are so out of touch. Any day I expect to hear "let them eat cake".
11:34 AM on 07/11/2008
What is the difference between whining and bitter?
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SouthPrairie
It's about WE, not me.
05:06 PM on 07/12/2008
Bitter is when you know you have been treated like a door-mat.

Whining is implying that we have no reason to be bitter.

Frankly, I'm tired of being flipped off by these nasty people--and I'm bitter too.

Signed: A tax paying door-mat