David Remnick On That New Yorker Cover: It's Satire, Meant To Target "Distortions And Misconceptions And Prejudices" About Obama

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First Posted: 07-13-08 10:53 PM   |   Updated: 07-21-08 05:12 AM

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Earlier today, the New Yorker released its cover for the July 21, 2008 issue — and the reaction was swift and furious.

The cover by Barry Blitt, called "The Politics of Fear," shows Michelle and Barack Obama depicted as the worst of the prejudiced, smearing characterizations that have dogged them over the course of the campaign: Michelle Obama as a revolutionary in military fatigues, packing AK-47 and ammo; her husband dressed like the Muslim he is stubbornly accused of being. Both of them stand in the Oval Office, with a portrait of Osama bin Laden behind them over a fireplace, in which an American flag burns. Not very subtle.

Some are not alarmedClarence Page, longtime Chicago Tribune columnist (and African-American) said the cover was "quite within the normal bounds of journalism" — but not everyone sees it that way. It's been described as "offensive" and "trash" and "disgusting" and "just as bad as Fox News."

Why would the New Yorker publish such a thing? Why would they run a cover that could have run, irony-free, on the cover of the National Review? What were they thinking? We put these questions and more to David Remnick, the editor of the New Yorker. His answers are below.


This cover has quickly become very controversial. The Obama campaign has called it "tasteless and offensive." Why did you run it?

Obviously I wouldn't have run a cover just to get attention — I ran the cover because I thought it had something to say. What I think it does is hold up a mirror to the prejudice and dark imaginings about Barack Obama's — both Obamas' — past, and their politics. I can't speak for anyone else's interpretations, all I can say is that it combines a number of images that have been propagated, not by everyone on the right but by some, about Obama's supposed "lack of patriotism" or his being "soft on terrorism" or the idiotic notion that somehow Michelle Obama is the second coming of the Weathermen or most violent Black Panthers. That somehow all this is going to come to the Oval Office.

The idea that we would publish a cover saying these things literally, I think, is just not in the vocabulary of what we do and who we are... We've run many many satirical political covers. Ask the Bush administration how many.

Many Obama supporters have started to voice their anger over the cartoon, which they say does not so much lampoon the smear as perpetuate it.

Normally I'd want the work to speak for itself — normally I'd not want to explain jokes, or short stories, or a piece of non-fiction that we publish — people always read things the way they're going to read them. In this case, since I see that it's stirred the pot somewhat, and some people have misinterpreted it very quickly, I'm talking to you. The image tries to be as clear a possible the title tries to make sure of that. (Ed. The title does not appear on the cover, but is listed in the Table of Contents, in the magazine and online.)

Prior to greenlighting the cover, did you consider that it might be co-opted by Obama opponents as anti-Obama propaganda? If so, did that possibility give you pause?

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It always occurs to you that things will be misinterpreted or taken out of context — that's not unusual. But I think that's the case of all political satire, whether it's Art Spiegelman or Thomas Nast or Herb Block or Jon Stewart. I bet there are people who watch Stephen Colbert and think he's a conservative commentator, or maybe they did at first....a lot of people when they first saw Colbert said, "What is this? " What he was doing was turning things on [their] head.

I wrote this up just a few hours ago, and there are already close to 800 comments on my post. Quite a few of them are from people who say they no longer plan to buy the New Yorker and/or have thrown out their subscription cards. Do you have anything to say to those readers?

It's not the first time. I respect people's reactions — I'm just trying to as calmly and as clearly as possible talk about what this image means and what it was intended to mean and what I think most people will see — when they think it through — that it means. The fact is, it's not a satire about Obama - it's a satire about the distortions and misconceptions and prejudices about Obama.

A number of commenters also wondered if there was a cover in the offing that would depict McCain unflatteringly - do you have any policy or general customs regarding the even treatment of candidates in terms of coverage, and covers?

Oh, we get around to everybody I hope.

A few months ago, Rolling Stone ran a cover depicting Obama very flatteringly, with a halo-ish aura around him (see here). Recently the magazine followed up with another flattering cover (here). This week, Newsweek's cover depicts Obama praying. Do you think there is a double standard here about covers that are perceived to be 'flattering' vs. 'unflattering'?

We have a very different vocabulary for what we do. Our covers are very, very often freestanding, in that they are not exactly tuned to a story inside. This cover is not a sketch of Obama campaigning in Chicago in the mid-90s. Most weeks it's not a political satire at all — most weeks its a beautiful cityscape or seasonal image or - well, you know the magazine. Rolling Stone's a different magazine — their covers tend to be tied to a story — one of these [covers] was an out-and-out endorsement, if I'm not mistaken.

Right. The cover line read "A New Hope," and was explicitly labeled an endorsement.

About five weeks ago we were about two hours from running a cover of Obama in a Brooklyn Dodger's uniform, sliding into home. And his number was #42. And anyone with even a little bit of knowledge of baseball history knows this is Jackie Robinson. So this was kind of a turn on Obama being the Jackie Robinson of American politics - in a way - and no doubt people on the Obama campaign would not have found it offensive — they would have immediately understood what we were trying to say, that Obama had jumped an enormous historical barrier.

The only reason I yanked it was because it turned out someone had already done this, used this image on some political baseball cards. So I unfortunately held back that really good image. That was saying a particular thing at a particular time. This is saying a particular thing at a particular time, when these imaginings and dark fantasies and misconceptions about Obama exist. And we're putting it all together in one image and holding a mirror up to it and showing it for it for the absurdity that it is.

We have now published three very long, extensive Profiles of Barack Obama and any number of Comment pieces, and I think it adds up to detailed, fair, insightful coverage. This cover is part of the picture, too, but it uses the language of political satire and cartooning, not of reporting and essays, and sometimes not everyone likes that or gets what's intended. I would prefer not to over-explain things, but I'd rather be clear than there be lingering misconceptions about what Barry Blitt was exploring.

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- FZliveson I'm a Fan of FZliveson 82 fans permalink
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My grandfather used to say; "If six people tell you, you're a horse, you'd better buy a saddle.
Saddle up, Mr. Remnick and be sure to use a soft, thick saddle blanket. This one's gonna be
ridden hard and put away wet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 07/20/2008

It wasn't funny

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 07/20/2008
- pcplz I'm a Fan of pcplz 7 fans permalink
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My Grandma used to say, "Sometimes you can be too smart for your own good!"

She sure was right here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 07/20/2008
- wakupmagy I'm a Fan of wakupmagy 4 fans permalink


Mr. Remnick:

There's a saying in Communication Theory that goes like this: the meaning of my message is in your response.
All that's saying is that, regardless of what one thinks one means or what one consciously intended to say--the real meaning of what one is saying is actually only revealed by the effect it has on the other person.

(I lifted this quote from a piece in AdAge. Can't remember from whom. If it's yours--hey, claim your credit !)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 07/20/2008

Who are you going to believe, Remnick or your lying eyes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 07/17/2008
- Insightful I'm a Fan of Insightful 6 fans permalink

When you are in politics you should be able to take the unflattering hits. There is a certain side to the Obama's that is out there to be questioned. It is our right to question it and it is the right of our system of journalism to depict it. Why is it that a lot of people think this particular politician should be depicted like some kind of Messiah with a halo. That is just plain false advertising and a lot of us aren't swallowing it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 07/17/2008

This isn't so much about Obama as racism. Had they depicted any two black people in this fashion it would be the same. It is the same as depicting grinning Mexicans crawling under a fence holding a bottle or Jews with hooknoses juggling money.

The New Yorker editors know exactly what they are doing and are betting on the loyalty and stupidity of their declining readership and reaching out to the NeoCons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 07/17/2008
- DBee I'm a Fan of DBee permalink

TNYer choosing to boost sales by institutionalizing racism with a misguided satire in the midst of a crucial war-time presidential election? Unbelievable! Paraphrasing Mr. Remnick, the cover was "just not the level of thought and discourse that normally I see" in TNYer.

Obama speaks for himself, not I, and HIS response was told to Larry King as follows:

"Well, I know it was The New Yorker’s attempt at satire. I don’t think they were entirely successful with it. But you know what? It’s a cartoon, Larry, and that’s why we’ve got the First Amendment … You know, we’ve—one of the things when you’re running for president for almost two years is, you get a pretty thick skin. And, you know, I’ve seen and heard worse."

And then all the requisite details about being a Christian, etc., etc., and then this, beautifully done:

"One last point I want to—I do want to make about these e-mails, though. And I think this has an impact on this New Yorker cover. You know, this is actually an insult against Muslim-Americans, something that we don’t spend a lot of time talking about. And sometimes I’ve been derelict in pointing that out. You know, there are wonderful Muslim-Americans all across the country who are doing wonderful things. And for this to be used as sort of an insult, or to raise suspicions about me, I think is unfortunate. And it’s not what America’s all about."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 07/18/2008
- DBee I'm a Fan of DBee permalink

Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way.
- Jane Austen

Bold satire? Perhaps. But whose opinions are being satirized? I am disappointed that The New Yorker did not create a face for the antagonist.

The focus rests solely on the misrepresentations ... not on the owner of the thoughts. This “has something to say” because it sensationalizes silly things and creates controversy … not because it challenges our thinking or enlightens us in that one frame. Surprisingly, the characterization goes beyond magnifying generally found misrepresentations to embellish, escalate and inflame the scenario further by ad libbing, e.g., Michelle Obama packs a rifle?

The notoriety gained by The New Yorker is at the expense of vulnerabilities dictated by antagonists who misrepresent issues such as his father's religion, his name and his race. The New Yorker's traditions practically demand that the purveyor of such offal be called out, named, and appropriately depicted within this "satire."

Remnick's response reflects one dimensional thinking and ultimately stands poorly for The New Yorker's thought leadership. Lacking the courage to disrobe the believer, this piece is neither fresh nor informative and has been "done" in smaller circles many times over.

Ultimately little harm will come from this. While inadvertently (?) pandering to the misinformed, who have already reached their conclusions, this "misfire at satire" will provoke thoughtfulness and action among those still seeking a way to do better for our country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 07/17/2008
- urbangreen I'm a Fan of urbangreen 3 fans permalink

Well said.

It 's only the label "The New Yorker" across the top that (supposedly) tells the viewer this is satire, which by Remnick's own standard shows it to be a failure. Had the same cartoon appeared in The Washington Times, no one would have taken it for satire. So, clearly, the work "doesn't speak for itself" as do the cartoons of Nast, Block or Tom Tomorrow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 07/18/2008
- openhand I'm a Fan of openhand 29 fans permalink
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This has done more to focus on this aspect of prejudice in the campaig. Unfortunately the intended outcome of a rejection of this prejudice backfired, instead the chorus is a rejection of the messenger.

Someone below mentioned Obama Girl, amazing that that level of chauvinist fantasy is ok, and this which reflects the ugly reality of U.S. politics is not ok. What do you think both Hilary and Michele think of her?

How are we going to deal with the big issue of war crimes? I know, lets ask Obama Girl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 07/16/2008
- LillianB I'm a Fan of LillianB 9 fans permalink

It satirizes stupidity (the stupidity of those believing the rumors, as well as the stupidity of those believing that someone will believe the rumors, hence making them up for that use).

It also satirizes the hypocrisy, of those too racist to want a black president, but too obsessed with being politically correct to admit they're racist - so they admit to fearing muslims instead (another prejudice, but a more accepted one at that - I repeat, hypocrisy.)

But then, as we have seen, the problem with satirizing stupidity is that some people will not understand what's being satirized. And anyone pointing that out is per se an elitist (and prone to use latin where she could have said "proved/for sure" instead).

And the problem with satirizing hypocrisy, as we have seen, is that some people won't understand that hypocrisy is what's being criticized. They'd rather criticize the critic for being the hypocrate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 07/16/2008

The Obama girls will make The New Yorker regret this when one of them run for the officer in 2036.

They will lead an intellectual and telepathic movement that turn the New Yorker into a 'first grade reader'

Obama 2036

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 07/16/2008

Yes The New Yorker has recaptured its faded glory with a historically unprecedented genre of satirizing hateful stereotypes by making cartoons with those very sterotypes.

Next issue will feature slyly grinning Mexicans sliding under a border fence with a bottle of tequila in one hand and a taco in the other. Right now the editors are combing through the archives of the Third Reich where they will find anti-semitic material to reproduce with just the right satirical touch.

There will be one apology about the current issue. The editors acknowledge that in his rush to make history Mr. Blitt forgot to put the bone in Michelle's nose.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 07/16/2008
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/20/2008

Nobody who knows anything about David Remnick and The New Yorker could possibly think that cover was meant as as a slur, or was meant in any way to harm Obama. The New Yorker is about as liberal as it gets, so saying their intentions were bad is a little ridiculous.

The cover isn't shocking because of it's content. It's shocking because I am shocked that The New Yorker, a magazine of the highest (some would say to a fault) literary and aesthetic value, would allow such a ham-handed attempt at satire onto it's cover. The satirical aspect of this cover is lost because it is not stated strongly or explicitly enough.

The missing piece is the hand of the cartoonist, a common feature in satirical cartoons. Show the hand drawing the Obamas that way, then label the hand "The Right Wing" or "The Media". Then your satire becomes clear.

To David Remnick: I understand the meta-satire here, engendered by the ridiculous reaction this cover has garnered, and the seriousness with which people have treated it. Yes, people are idiots. No, you are not responsible for that. However, please understand that by publishing a cover like this, you're hurting your guy (and my guy) with the people he needs most: The idiots in the middle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 07/15/2008

Herr Wiseman (we all love our own little eponymous bon mots, don't we?? sure we do...):

Having addressed "the meta-satire here", you'll have thought about, of course, the possibility that a little 'ol drawing might just have the meta-power to diffuse the bigots' cute lil' bigotry. I mean, by "stealing their meta thunder" so to speak, maybe this fine drawing has achieved what lots of otherwise bright folk have not:

Their entire playbook of Lee Atwaterian/Carl Rovian attack ammunition has been exposed for what it is: hate.

neat little meta-hat trick, if it were true, eh, Weissman?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 07/16/2008

If you have to know the editor to understand the meaning of a cartoon then the editor is an idiot for puting the cartoon on the front page. I stop subscribing to The New Yorker over a year ago after reading one too many NeoCon sob story hand wringing apologias for the Iraq occupation.

I don't know David Remmick. I know a racist cartoon when I see one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 07/16/2008
- openhand I'm a Fan of openhand 29 fans permalink
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If anyone needs an explanation of this cartoon they are either unfamiliar with the U.S. presidential elections 2008 or have no clue about what satire is.

It exposes the stupidity of racism, how is that racist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 07/16/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

And I know a hypersensitive extremist when I see one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 07/16/2008

There is nothing shocking about the cover. Publishing it will not influence the majority's negative opinion of "your guy" . Although there are some "idiots" who believe the Obamas have a dark agenda, most oppose him because he is not qualified, has no track record and because the media has literally hand-picked him. Most of us are influenced by his actions (e.g., his FISA vote) and lackluster career---not by cartoons or his substance free--albeit "inspiring" speeches. Calling us stupid or racist because of that suggest that idiocy abounds--not in the "middle" but among the "intellectual elite" who are too besotted with Obama to see straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 AM on 07/17/2008

TO THINK THAT COVER IS A JOKE OR FUNNY TRUST ME IT IS NOT. I DON'TCARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT SEN OBAMA OR HIS WIFE .THIS MAN IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IT IS INSULTING TO THE MUSLIM PEOPLE ALSO TO MRS OBAMA I KNOW OF NOT ONE CANDIDATE AND HIS WIFE THAT HAVE BEEN ON A MAGAZINE THIS WAY SHOWED SO MUCH DISRESPECT THAT THEY HAVE TO PROMISE THAT THEY LOVE THEIR OWN COUNTRY WHAT NOSENSE!.NO ALL YOU DO IS WHEN ELECTION TIME COMES IN NOV 08 DON'T VOTE FOR HIM IF HE IS NOT YOUR CHOICE THAT IS YOUR RIGHT AS A CITIZEN. YOU GUYS HAVE BE LITTLE HIM AND HIS WIFE AND FAMILY. THANK GOD THAT HE IS STRONG AND READY AS HIS WIFE MICHELLE TO BECOMES THE FIRST LADY WITH CLASS AS HER HUSBAND IS READY TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE ARE WITH HIM AND READY TO STAND AND BE COUNTED.GOD BLESS AMERICA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 07/20/2008
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

Bull from start to finish. The media hand=picked him. You've got a short memory. It was not long ago that the same media annointed Hillary as the unbeatable candidate. As for: "but among the "intellectual elite" who are too besotted with Obama to see straight." That's just plain insulting. It implies that you are the only one seeing straight. I haven't called you racist or stupid but I will call you arrogant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 PM on 07/20/2008

The New Yorker cover misfires because it garbs their victims in the “distortions and misconceptions and prejudices” to which Remnick refers – as a “satire” depicting a Nazi’s kike-ified Jew would misfire. A finer literary mind than The New Yorker’s, like Dante's, say, or Bosch's, might show the hatemongers bemonstered by their viciousness, a gunslinging Afro’ed Coulter, perhaps, fist-bumping a turbaned and dashiki-ed Limbaugh.

The New Yorker chose to call it "The Politics of Fear, but call it "The Politics of Hate" and the civer reads very differently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 07/15/2008
- C65 I'm a Fan of C65 8 fans permalink

ATTN: TO ALL BLOGGERS
No one in the African American Community is laughing at THE NEW YORKER'S COVER.
IWe DARE ANY OF YOU TO QUESTION BLACK PEOPLE'S PATROTISM,when we have LOST,
and GIVEN UP MORE for the UNITED STATES than any OTHER RACE.We labored and died
were the butt of your jokes and entertainments.It was not SATIRE then,it's not today.
I haven't once seen blonde haired,blue eyed Cindy Mccain potrayed as Mccains baby mama,nor
has Mccain been potrayed as a gold digger or ignorant to the financial hardships of others
because his wife is Wealthy and can afford to spend over $7 thousand in a month,not to mention
she recieved over $200K refund on her 2006 tax return.
Finally,YOU PEOPLE ARE WHAT WE CALL IGNORANT.
You can't have it both ways ,you either believe he's a muslim or you believe
he's a militant from REV.WRIGHT's church,{which is christian}.Not only are you a group of
ignorant people,you should not be allowed to vote.BLACK AMERICANS OF TODAY
ANCESTORS HAVE GIVEN THEIR BLOOD AND TAKEN ALL THE INSULTS FROM
YOU SO that THIS GENERATION COULD BE FREE,AND FREE WE WILL BE.
If OBAMA were ANY OTHER RACE,these attacks wouldn't exist and saying it's because
he's not known,is a WHITE lie and excuse.
Many candidates local,state,and nationally have been unknown but were not ATTACKED as
Obama has been.Keep your lies to yourself-WE DON'T BUY ONE WORD OF IT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 07/15/2008
- LillianB I'm a Fan of LillianB 9 fans permalink

The New Yorker doesn't question Obama's patriotism. It pokes fun of the people stupid enough to question Obama's patriotism.

What the drawing says is:
"No one can be so idiotic he'll believe that Obama is a muslim/ter­rorist/fla­gburning/O­sama bin Laden-loving etc, etc. And no one can be so stupid to believe that Michelle O is militant, angry, etc, etc. And, by the way, to those of you disguising your bigotry under the cover of the he-is-a-mu­slim-theor­y, we'll just remind you that you know he isn't and that your real fear is that this couple might be too black, so, to make sure you'll understand, we'll picture MrsO with an afro and in Black Panther/military gear. No you all get it, right?"

So, just to make sure one gets it: The cover isn't racist, it isn't rumorfeeding, it isn't rightist. It satirizes the people who are. It shows the absurdity and the bigotry and the hypocrisy in the lies these people are telling.

When the rightist racists say, "No, I can't vote for him, he is muslim", New Yorker says: "Duh, you know that's not true, what you really mean is that you won't support an AA."
When the racist rightist can't answer, the New Yorker continues: "We'll make him more of an AA, and you'll see, he still won't be any less of a candidate. Let's put him in the Oval Office".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 07/16/2008

My suggestion is tu stick your fingers in your ears. That way you don;t hear anything you don't want to. What a racist bully.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 07/16/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

Look! ME USE BIG LETTER TOO!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 07/16/2008

Not all African Americans share your views. I am one of many.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 AM on 07/17/2008

Where did you get the idea B.H.Obama is continually being attacked? He is the media darling and gets a free ride from all the liberal press. If McCain' s pastor of twenty years had said what Wright said, and McCain would have said he was like family, the press would have kept up their attacks until McCain dropped his campaign. McCain has been to Iraq and Afganistan many times but did you see any of the national news documenting it? No! B.Hussein Obama goes once to Afganistan and hasn't been to Iraq for a long time (he went one time over a year ago before the surge) and what does he get? They had a lottery to see what famous news anchors would travel with him (from NBC, ABC, and CBS). He is treated like a messiah and will get unprecedented international coverage. Anyone who sits in a church pew for twenty years, has the same beliefs about America as the pastor who Baptized his children and married him and was considered a part of the family.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 07/19/2008

Stewart and Colbert are clearly known for political satire; by comparing The New Yorker cover to satirists, Remnick is suggesting that the magazine is known for satire and not serious analysis. Putting it now in the catagory of Mad Magazine, it was quite easy this morning -- after the mail came -- to cancel my subscription.
When you call (1-800-825-2510) the number is answered with a recorded explanation stating that the cover was satire. That is the greeting before any service numbers to punch are given. (3 for customer representative) ..If that doesn't tell us that the magazine execs know they miscalculated, nothing does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 07/15/2008
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