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The Democrats' National Security Hangover

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July 22, 2008 09:42 AM



Lately, Democrats have been having a party on national security. An Admiral who wants more troops in Afghanistan, the Bush administration's diplomatic overtures to Iran, and the Iraqi government's preference for a U.S. withdrawal by 2010 have all conspired to undercut John McCain's assertion that Barack Obama is naive when it comes to the world stage.

Given that liberals have been roasted over the national security pit in past presidential cycles, their enthusiasm over this turn of events and their praise for Obama's confidence on the issue is easy to understand. As the Washington Post's Dan Balz wrote on Monday: "In earlier years, Democratic candidates couldn't wait to move off of foreign policy and onto domestic issues, aware that their party more or less owned the domestic debate, while Republicans generally held the high ground on national security."

But a similar choice may boil up once again for Democrats after Obama returns from his trip abroad. Once home, should the presumptive nominee press his increasingly strong hand on national security matters, and grant McCain his preference for talking about Iraq as much as possible? Or, in a particularly bad economic year, should Obama's campaign put economic issues ahead of an endless debate about the future (and recent past) of Iraq? In resolving the question, a headache or two may even ensue -- call it the Democrats' national security hangover after a few high-flying weeks.

As it stands now, the debate over messaging priorities is far from settled among the various communities of left-leaning pollsters, think-tank intellectuals and past campaign operatives who help make up the party's conventional wisdom.

"Honestly, step back a half step," pollster Mark Mellman said regarding the recent press frenzy over Obama's trip abroad. "This is vastly more of an economic election. It's in Obama's interest to keep it that way. ... He shouldn't want the whole country [to be thinking] about whether his approach to foreign affairs is the best or not, even though it is." As you might expect from a pollster, there's some public opinion data that backs up Mellman's position. In June, Gallup found that health care, the economy, energy and tax prices were all more important to voters than terrorism or the Iraq war. On each of those issues, Obama held a healthy advantage over McCain (while also tying on Iraq).

But such arguments have yet to persuade Brian Katulis, a national security expert at the Center for American Progress who has also advised Obama on Iraq. "The pollsters have been repeatedly wrong" to advise against going all out on national security matters, Katulis told the Huffington Post, "because they read their numbers statically about 'where things are right now.' There's an amazing lack of creativity." Katulis also said the pollsters' reliance on looking back at old races with 20-20 hindsight can distract them to the point where they ignore the potential "to really shift the terms of the debate on national security."

"It demonstrates the problem with the campaign consultants who have what I call 'national security deficit disorder,'" Katulis said. "The only way you [change] that is by going on the offensive. ... It's been at the heart of the advice I've given to this campaign. You need to show up with a strong argument. And Obama's doing this quite well on the trip so far." Katulis also noted that, given the effects of globalization, economic and foreign affairs issues are being blurred together in any case, and that candidates need "an integrated approach" to address both.

That model comes closest to what longtime campaign consultant Bob Shrum believes Obama should recognize. "The economic issues are very important, and they will be central to the campaign," Shrum said. "But it's always been the case that Obama had to pass the threshold of national security." Shrum, who was John Kerry's campaign manager in 2004, has often been criticized for his reported influence in pushing Democrats to follow President Bush on Iraq. This time, though, he concedes that Obama will need to stake out his own ground. "As long as people believe that Obama passes that threshold, he's gonna win the election," Shrum said.

Still, the national security turf is not completely free of dangers for the Illinois Democrat. The McCain campaign is already jumping on Obama's admission that he did not fully "anticipate" the benefits of the surge strategy in Iraq. As The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder has noted, both candidates have appeared prescient about Iraq at different points in time. The job ahead of each candidate now is to convince the public that his own moment of rightness was the more critical one. And for Obama in particular, making that case carries the risk of lending less attention to persuasive arguments he can make on the economic front. Even as fine lines go, that's a tough one. Walking it well will certainly require some sober thought once the heady days of Obama's foreign trip are over.

Lately, Democrats have been having a party on national security. An Admiral who wants more troops in Afghanistan, the Bush administration's diplomatic overtures to Iran, and the Iraqi government's pre...
Lately, Democrats have been having a party on national security. An Admiral who wants more troops in Afghanistan, the Bush administration's diplomatic overtures to Iran, and the Iraqi government's pre...
 
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Excuse me for asking, but wasn't Bush the POTUS for eight months when the 9/11 attacks happened? How did we come to accept the assertion the republicans are so damn strong on national security? Nothing as bad as that has ever happened on the democrats' watch. So, puff up your chest and wear your flag lapel pin all you want. It's all bluster.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 07/27/2008
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You know maybe the reason Dems don"t win elections is that they keep listening to the same Experts?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 07/23/2008

7 ou tof 8 isn't Bad. But it will be 8 out of 8 as soon as the media shows McCain for what he really is and begins to let out his GAFFS they cover up everyday. That and just ONE Debate face to face with Obama and McCains facade will crumble on Live TV.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 07/22/2008

Barack thinking-Troop surge in Iraq did no good but we need troop surge in Afghanisan. Did you Libs know that Barack wants to make the war bigger? Barack want to make bigger war than Bush!! Please some Lib explain this! I thought all wars were bad.

















did you Libs know that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 07/22/2008

Yeah, we know that. So what is your point? You think all wars are bad? You must be a pinko pacifist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 07/22/2008

No..all BS Wars are Bad that twerpy little fratboys wage in order to act tough and have a free run at a Trillion Tax dollars.

Kickin BUTT on the REAL enemy to keep our people safe ROCKS!!!! And the U.S. is the BEST at it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 07/22/2008

So far, Obama's camp hasn't made any truly significant or damaging tactical errors, yet the pundits, the "experts" and everyone else insists on acting as if they don't know what they're doing and they need "advice." When it comes to campaign strategy, they're pretty much rewriting the book. That's the way to go. That's the reason Clinton lost. That's the reason the McCain camp is "frustrated." I, for one, am enjoying the show and I can't wait to see what Obama's going to pull out of his sleeve next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 07/22/2008
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There is a solution to the dilemma of the Democrats' national hangover. Let Senator Obama put a focus on the economy and energy policy (perhaps even try to recruit Tom Friedman!) and let his VP put a similar focus on foreign policy and national security...and throw a few consitutional issues (ie. SCOTUS) in the mix for good measure...or not...

Of course, this would just be one more reason why Senator Obama's choice for VP (with Special Portfolio on Iraq) is pretty much a no-brainer and really has no use or need for vetters or search teams. Senator Biden needs only to be asked and Obama/Biden will be well on their way to one of the biggest electoral victories we have seen in a very long time...in my not so humble opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 07/22/2008
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We do NOT elect people to be President who don't seem skilled at
preserving National Security. Sure, other issues are very important,
but the President's perceived primary responsibility is N.S.

That does not have to mean that you need to be 'war-like'. It just means
you have to have a serious, credible, effective vision of how to keep the
country safe.

Which should mean, actually, that Obama would be seen as better for
National Security than McCain, who seems to be most interested in
channeling Teddy Roosevelt, the 'Hero of San Juan Hill' (1898!).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 07/22/2008

I see Obama as, a "man of knowledge", as described by don Jaun to Carlos Castaneda. Obama has the, "humbleness of a warrior". while McCain the, Humbleness of a beggar". A beggar bows to all those above his station and expects those below to bow to him. A warrior bows to no one, but expects no one to bow to him. I'll take the warrior, not some counterfit war hero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 07/23/2008
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Heavy, dude, but it sounds right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/23/2008
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Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time. He can focus on both the economy and national security. It isn't, and should be, an either/or proposition.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/22/2008

After this trip, which should establish his credentials, Obama should focus on the economy.

Now, even more than then, "it's the economy stupid." After all, things will not get better before the elections. More of us will lose jobs, houses, and purchasing power. Make McCloneBush pay for wanting only the rich to get richer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 07/22/2008

wasted all my money acting STUPID, so now i'm broke... Hey!!!..... maybe i'll just borrow some more, i'm never going to pay it back anyway. Besides i'll be dead and gone long before anybody figures it out. Oh well..... does anybody have a gas can???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 07/22/2008

Amen to that, PJay1. The renowned economist Joseph Stiglitz admitted as much. So the neo-conservatives destroyed Iraq, wasted all the international good will after September 11th and are leading us down the path of national suicide in Iran, all so that people like Joseph Liebermann and Gary Ackermann can feel good about themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 07/22/2008
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To reiterate many of the comments, the economy and Iraq are not mutually exclusive.
In fact, they're very much intertwined.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 07/22/2008
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Our economy is weaked because liberals do not want to drill for more oil and the American people were gambling in real estate. Now that Americans are conserving energy and switching to economy cars the economy will be fine. If you haven't noticed the oil bubble is bursting and the economy will be humming along by the time election rolls around. The oil crisis was caused by liberals failure to understand supply and demand and how futures markets work. With an agressive energy policy of conservation, alternative energy, and increases in supply of fossil fuels, supply would outstrip demand and oil futures would be crushed. Drilling is a good thing, and lots of drilling is a great thing. Right now we as a nation have bought into conservation and alternative now we just have to get started on drilling everywhere. John McCain is right again. As a Democrate is going to be hard not to vote John McCain when he is right on everything, the surge, drilling, immaration, finance reform. His health care plan sucks and his view on womens rights have a long way to go, but Obama agrees with him so John McCain is going to get my vote!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 07/22/2008
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You have to be kidding! The oil companies already have leases on acres -- miles and miles of oil and gas resources (some in Alaska) which they have not yet explored . Do you really think that the economy is going to be just fine -- simply because Americans are going to drive economy cars? You have got to have your head in the sand! It was the Republicans who bad-mouthed ALL efforts at energy conservation - -and still do. It has always been Republicans who refuse to consider alternative energy supplies. You don't seem to know very much about the issue that you are voting on.
I just can't get over the ignorance about the economy -- you and John McCain!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 07/22/2008

It's not a matter of liberals at all. Oil companies have had millions of acres of leased and permitted lands for drilling for a long, long time. Basically, the Dept. of the Interior has the say over those lands, not the Congress, Dems or Repubs and they (The Bush, Clinton, Bush Admins.) DOI's have been sitting on them all this time. The Dept. Of interior just opened up another 2 million acres on Alaska's North Slope just two or three days ago. There has been lots of opportunity for the DOI and the oil companies to get more oil wells drilled over the last two decades. They just haven't. done it. Ask them why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 07/22/2008
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EXACTLY! They are trying to separate the 2 issues to make it easier for MyCane! If not, in order to help the economy MyCane would exploit, then veto every beer that comes from Czechoslovakia!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 07/22/2008
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You got that right. In fact, you could say that the number one domestic issue is IRAQ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 07/22/2008

When Bush took office he Blamed HIGH OIL PRICES on Bill Clinton. Gas was 1.47 a Gallon WHo does he Blame NOW? Barack Obama! WOW these people are either mentally defective or just plain out and out Shameless Liars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 07/22/2008

The US's economic policies have affected the foreign policy (and vice versa).
Changing econonmic policies domestically and abroad would do the most to improve our national security.
That's the conversation no one wants to have in depth because it sheds more spotlight on the economic elite that have truly been setting the foreign policy for this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 07/22/2008

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/07/22/obama-makes-foreign-policy-slip/

"Let me be absolutely clear," Obama said. "Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain government " administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 07/22/2008

I think the bar that equates McCain better on terrorism is overblown. It amazes me how the Republicans get more points for being tougher on terror, when it was under their watch that we had the biggest attack which was 911. If the Bush admin had been as watchful as they tout, that would never have happened. John McCain's overrated credibility as a Foreign Policy expert should have been blown to smithereens by now with all of his gaffes. People are mistaking Viet Nam war experience with the ability to negotiate globally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 07/22/2008
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