LA Plastic Bag Ban: Disposable Bags Outlawed By 2010

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| 07/23/08 05:50 AM | AP

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LOS ANGELES — Los Angeles shoppers soon won't hear the question, "Paper or plastic?" at the checkout line.

The City Council voted Tuesday to ban plastic shopping bags from stores, beginning July 1, 2010. Shoppers can either bring their own bags or pay 25 cents for a paper or biodegradable bag.

The council's unanimous vote also puts pressure on the state, which is considering an Assembly bill that would impose bag recycling requirements on stores. City officials said their ban would not be implemented if the state passes the bill and requires at least a 25-cent charge per bag.

"We've gotten to a point where we need to act as a city, where we can have real results," said Councilman Ed Reyes, who proposed the bag ban. "We're trying to do it in a way where we can educate and inform the public of what we're doing."

Reyes said the ban will minimize cleanup costs for the city and reduce trash that collects in storm drains and the Los Angeles River. The city estimates more than 2 billion plastic bags are used each year in Los Angeles. About 5 percent of plastic bags and 21 percent of paper bags are recycled in California.

Banning plastic bags will not solve the litter problem, said an attorney who opposes the regulation of plastic bags.

"We've had enough of politicians accepting the misinformation that's spread around the Internet about plastic bags," said Stephen Joseph of the Save the Plastic Bag Coalition, which represents bag manufacturers.

Joseph said the city motion gives "a free pass" to paper bags, which he argued are biodegradable but consume more materials and natural resources to make.

Three percent of the bag fee will be returned to the retailer, 3 percent will go to the state, and the rest will go back to the city to fund an education campaign.

Last year, San Francisco passed the nation's first bag ban, which took effect in November.

LOS ANGELES — Los Angeles shoppers soon won't hear the question, "Paper or plastic?" at the checkout line. The City Council voted Tuesday to ban plastic shopping bags from stores, beginning Jul...
LOS ANGELES — Los Angeles shoppers soon won't hear the question, "Paper or plastic?" at the checkout line. The City Council voted Tuesday to ban plastic shopping bags from stores, beginning Jul...
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Here's one answer to the plastic bag problem. www.PlasticBagBag.com .... Make 'em while you can!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 07/26/2008
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This whole debate could be rendered moot if cities and counties turn to plasma arc garbage-to-energy technology. Here in Florida, Tallahassee and St. Lucie counties are building co-generation plants that will harvest solid waste from existing landfills, zap them with 20,000F degree electric arcs and then use the gas to drive electricity-producing turbines. AT St Lucie, the 100 MW or electricity generated will be sold on to FP&L; the extra steam will be sold to a Tropicana Orange Juice processing plant and the slag to contractors for paving materials. So plastic bags are recycled into energy (lots of BTUs trapped in these bags!) and new roads / repaired roads. Problem solved. Oh, and landfills gone in 18 years. Article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_arc_waste_disposal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 07/25/2008

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Glen Daless

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 07/25/2008
- avraamjack I'm a Fan of avraamjack 21 fans permalink
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California is a great state.
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Medical Marijuana is legal and plastic bags are illegal.
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I have to get a job in Southern Cal.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 07/24/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

San Fran is working on hookers too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 07/24/2008
- avraamjack I'm a Fan of avraamjack 21 fans permalink
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Ha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 07/24/2008

Lets carpool our way there avraamjack!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 07/27/2008

no mention in this article that plastic bags are petroleum based - another great reason not to use them or use them as little as possible.

good on la.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 07/24/2008

I cannot believe the people who are so resistant to the idea of reusable cloth bags. I've been using the same 10 cloth bags for 14 years. With the $0.05 a bag rebate I get each trip, my bags paid for themselves long ago and are now making me money. It doesn't take long to get into the habit of bringing them on shopping trips. And they all stuff inside one bag, so space isn't a concern.

I do not understand our disposable society. Plastic/paper bags, paper plates, plastic "silverware", paper napkins, paper towels, baby wipes, diapers, and tissue paper. Reusable versions of these products last decades with proper care. I guess the rise of our disposable society came with the rise in disposable income.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 07/24/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

Bringing your own bag makes you look like a homeless person.

What don't you understand about the ease of using platic forks?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 07/24/2008
- missviv I'm a Fan of missviv 8 fans permalink
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Can we recycle you UbiasView?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 07/25/2008
- francoise I'm a Fan of francoise 18 fans permalink

"Bringing your own bag makes you look like a homeless person."

I guess we frenchs are all viewed as homeless persons then, because plastic bags have been banned here for some years ;-)

It doesn't really matter. Anyway you all think we're broke because we've also been riding buses or driving toy cars for decades ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 07/26/2008

How about getting back to removing the ban on INDUSTRIAL HEMP? Hemp can be used to make environmentally friendly biodegradable plastic bags in place of crude oil. Plastic bag ban is just DUMB DUMB DUMB !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 07/24/2008
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Oh crap. NOW what will I use to line the litterboxes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 07/24/2008
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Now, if only D.C. could outlaw windbags!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 07/23/2008
- wagadog I'm a Fan of wagadog 46 fans permalink

I'm stockpiling the ones I have now -- for um...walkies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 07/23/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

Why is it that everytime a liberal doesn't like something they set out to ban it for everyone?

Light bulbs, bags, etc.

I did think it was funny now that they are taxing bags at stores because they are in such a hole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 07/23/2008
- wagadog I'm a Fan of wagadog 46 fans permalink

The trolls are pretty sad here.

I wonder what they're getting paid.

Not enough, apparently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 07/23/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

Paid for what . . . asking a question?

Sorry, I don't think government needs to try and micro-manage everyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 07/23/2008
- RaraAvis17 I'm a Fan of RaraAvis17 7 fans permalink

I don't understand why you don't get it? It's called taking care of this planet. I know, I know, that is so hard for a rethug to understand, but if you would READ and research you might catch on. I said, MIGHT.

I know you won't watch this, because that would mean you would have to face the truth.

http://www.smellthesky.com/2008/06/plastic-toxic-trash-floating-island.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 07/23/2008

I changed every bulb in my house to low energy bulbs and I have made huge renovations on my home to become energy efficient. I doubt you have done the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 07/24/2008
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... and right wing nuts want to ban evolution....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 07/24/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

Really? I haven't heard that but wouldn't be shocked . . . did they pass a law or do you have a link that they have banned it from a state?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 07/24/2008

Plastic bags are really awful for the environment. Encouraging people to use re-usable bags makes much, much more sense than filling up landfills with them. get with the program. If we're gonna leave something to our children, we need to start taking care of the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 07/24/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

Fine, encourage them . . . making a law for every little thing some envrionmentalist doesn't like is another story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 07/24/2008

If they are really serious about helping the environment, they would pass a law which requires some standard for pollution for vehicles from Baja California. Those cars in LA are terrible polluters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 07/24/2008
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Good point.
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They need to get much harsher about pollution.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 07/24/2008
- francoise I'm a Fan of francoise 18 fans permalink

"Those cars in LA are terrible polluters."

Don't worry.

The price of gas, and the bad economy, will take care of that in no time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 07/26/2008
- psgoodguy I'm a Fan of psgoodguy 2 fans permalink

our household quit using plastic bags about a year ago. once we got a good supply of reusable ones we keep some stashed in the car and some in the house. it took a while to get into the habit of remembering but now it's just second nature. our grocery store gives a 5 cent discount for every reusable bag i fill.

for xmas and birthdays i always wrap a separate gift that is just reusable bags. you'd be surprised how many people have gotten in on the act from that small gesture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 07/23/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

You give people bags for x-mas or birthdays?

Worst gift giver ever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 07/23/2008

A nice woven bag is a great gift.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 07/24/2008

she said she wrapped a "separate" gift. One assumes that they get some other kind of present as well, and the bag is an extra gift on top of that.

I was surprised when I got this small, pocket-sized book on what companies at the grocery store and such were more corrupt (i.e., put harmful chemicals in their food, lobbied for tobacco or against the environment, have unfair labor conditions) and my family members actually *asked* for copies to be given to them.

People like being thoughtful when it's made easy for them through a simple step or change. It gives us damn tea and latte-drinking liberals that warm fuzzy feeling that happens when you do something good. :P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 07/24/2008
- RaraAvis17 I'm a Fan of RaraAvis17 7 fans permalink

Great Pacific Garbage Patch -

Watch the video in the first link on the amount of plastic floating in the ocean. Its very sad indeed.

http://www.smellthesky.com/2008/06/plastic-toxic-trash-floating-island.html

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/23/2008

No more plastic bags in L.A.? But if Joan Rivers can't cover the red carpet at the Oscars, who will?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 07/23/2008
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More reason to never to move to Cali

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 07/23/2008
- amirtalai I'm a Fan of amirtalai 30 fans permalink

YEAH! I'm not moving to California, cuz of their BAG BAN! Screw California! You can have have my bag when you pry it from my cold dead hand!!
/sarcasm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 07/23/2008
- PATina I'm a Fan of PATina 236 fans permalink
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hahahahahaha... I was thinking I could come up w/ better reasons not to live in CA than banned bags (earthquakes, mudslides, wildfires)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 07/24/2008

2nd best comment of this thread XD ROFL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 07/24/2008
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I'm sure they'll miss you...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 07/24/2008

I think we'll somehow muddle through without you. :p

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 07/24/2008
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