CIA Torture Memo: Harsh Interrogation Legal If It's In "Good Faith"

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PAMELA HESS and LARA JAKES JORDAN | July 25, 2008 01:32 AM EST | AP

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In this image reviewed by the U.S. Military, a detainee is pictured at the medium security Camp 4 detention center, at Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base, in Cuba, Wednesday, July 23, 2008. (AP Photo/Randall Mikkelsen, Pool)

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department in 2002 told the CIA that its interrogators would be safe from prosecution for violations of anti-torture laws if they believed "in good faith" that harsh techniques used to break prisoners' will would not cause "prolonged mental harm."

That heavily censored memo, released Thursday, approved the CIA's harsh interrogation techniques method by method, but warned that if the circumstances changed, interrogators could be running afoul of anti-torture laws.

The Aug. 1, 2002, legal opinion signed by then-Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee was issued the same day he wrote a memo for then-White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales defining torture as only those "extreme acts" that cause pain similar in intensity to that caused by death or organ failure.

The Bybee legal opinion defining torture was withdrawn more than two years later. Justice spokesman Peter Carr said Thursday the interrogation techniques currently authorized by the Bush administration are legal. It's unclear, however, which of those outlined in the second memo are still being used. Attorney General Michael Mukasey has refused to address whether waterboarding, for example, is legal since the CIA no longer uses it.

Waterboarding is a form of simulated drowning that critics call torture. CIA Director Michael Hayden banned waterboarding in 2006 but government officials have said it remains a possibility if approved by the attorney general, the CIA chief and the president.

Secret Bush administration memos authorizing harsh interrogation techniques have been made public starting in 2004, when the Abu Ghraib prison abuse scandal revealed detainee mistreatment. Thursday's release adds to the growing record of the still secret program launched after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

The new Bybee memo was obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union along with two other previously unreleased documents dealing with the CIA's interrogation program. The Bybee memo specifically approved proposed interrogation techniques that were devised for use against al-Qaida suspects who were resistant to traditional questioning methods.

The standards used to judge how physically rough an interrogation could be are blacked out. But interrogations that stress a detainee psychologically or emotionally were not allowed to cause "prolonged mental harm." That was defined as harm lasting months or even years after the interrogation.

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The memo suggests psychiatrists or psychologists should be consulted prior to interrogations to assess the likely mental health effect on the prisoner.

"The healthier the individual, the less likely that the use of any one procedure or set of procedures will result in prolonged mental harm," the memo states.

The new documents indicate that senior Bush administration officials were aware of the controversial and potentially problematic use of certain interrogation methods, including waterboarding.

In a second memo, dated Jan. 28, 2003, then-CIA Director George Tenet authorized CIA officers to interrogate a terror suspect using an "enhanced technique" and ordered a record to be kept of it as the interrogation was happening. It was not clear whether such a record would be taken via notes, videotape or audiotape, but it was to include the "nature and duration of each such technique employed, the identities of those present" and other factors.

Tenet's memo also authorized the use of both "enhanced techniques" and "standard techniques," and said no other methods could be used "unless otherwise approved by headquarters."

Jameel Jaffer, director of the ACLU's national security project, said the Tenet document suggests the CIA at least contemplated techniques that went beyond waterboarding.

He said the interrogation records, if released, could be used as evidence by defendants in military tribunals at Guantanamo to prove they were tortured or coerced.

A third document released Thursday is undated but likely was written in 2004, well after the last confirmed use of waterboarding against a CIA prisoner. It addresses a planned interrogation, saying that it should go forward only with the clear understanding of all policies pertaining to the treatment of prisoners.

That unsigned memo defends interrogations but warns those authorizing them to be fully aware of the then-emerging international and U.S. legal debate surrounding the issue. It appears to serve as groundwork to defend the legality of interrogations _ including waterboarding _ if necessary.

"Intelligence gained using the interrogation techniques has saved Americans lives and property," the unsigned memo states.

It pointed to the Aug. 2002 Justice Department opinion that concluded "interrogation techniques including the waterboard do not violate the torture statute."

For several years, the Bush administration relied on the findings in that 2002 opinion to maintain its interrogations did not amount to torture _ and therefore had not violated any U.S. or international treaties on how detainees are treated.

However, the one-page undated memo highlights legislation by Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., prohibiting cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment of detainees. The amendment was approved by the Senate in June 2004 and was part of a 2005 military budget bill that became law in October 2004.

It also notes a 2004 Supreme Court decision _ which found that terror suspects held at Guantanamo Bay could challenge their detention in U.S. courts _ that "raises possible concerns about judicial review of the program, and these issues."

The Bush administration maintains waterboarding was legal when it was used by CIA interrogators in 2002 and 2003 against top al-Qaida detainees Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. CIA Director Hayden said waterboarding was used, in part, because of widespread belief among U.S. intelligence officials that more catastrophic attacks were imminent.

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department in 2002 told the CIA that its interrogators would be safe from prosecution for violations of anti-torture laws if they believed "in good faith" that harsh tec...
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- batguano See Profile I'm a Fan of batguano permalink


Welcome to Bush/Neocon Fascist Alice in Wonderland, & the late, great, American Republic. Black is white, up is down; torture & abuse,¦¦for justifiable purposes of course.....are as American as apple pie. If our elected reps will not fulfill their oaths of office, hold these hideous creatures to account, stand up for justice & our rule of law, we must make them. To do less makes us all, complicit in the crime. There has been mostly collusion with Bush&Co inhumanity, NOT moral outrage! The crimes of this despicable regime of greedy thieves, liars & depraved torturers/killers has turned the promise of our nations creed from what it once was (on paper at least) to a bloody travesty....to fascism. They have made our military sons & daughters an extension of their ignorance, cruelty & hate, & we will all pay the price for it.

Where the hell is the outrage? Have we & our elected reps become so in thrall to the lies, deceit, madness, fear-peddling & inhumanity of Bush&Co, we have come to believe that torturing ANY human being is justified....that it is the norm? Have they made most of us such wage-slaves that we don't have time to care? Or is it the capitulation of a bought & paid for press/media that fails their duty in our society to inform?

The image of the hooded prisoner cradling his child shows clearly that it is "us" who is the demon, not "them"!

"We have met the enemy, and he is us".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 07/28/2008
- AmericaninProtest See Profile I'm a Fan of AmericaninProtest permalink

And where are the comments from regpugs, racists, bigots, and neocons (all members of the same party) about this article? I have yet to read your usual non-sensical rantings too familiar in this site. You turn your head away from images like this because it represents one of the legacies of your Boooosh.
After World War II, Americans were seen as liberators, defenders and champions of the weak and oppressed. We were loved all over the world. Many people from other countries who lived through World War II looked up to Americans and loved everything American. Now as I look at this image it is no wonder we are hated all over the world. We liberated war prisoners like this man in World War II and now we are the perpetrators and bullies.
Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 07/27/2008
- marymansour See Profile I'm a Fan of marymansour permalink

The accompanying picture of the hooded man holding the crying child ranks in tragedy with the one years before of a vulture waiting for an Ethiopian child to perish. Simply heart breaking!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 07/27/2008
- DXM See Profile I'm a Fan of DXM permalink

"Justice spokesman Peter Carr said Thursday the interrogation techniques currently authorized by the Bush administration are legal."

And how am I suppose to trust the Bush Administration's legal opinions? According to the Aug 1, 2003 memo even more extreme questioning "techniques" were considered legal even though they ARE torture by any reasonable interpretation of Federal or international law. All these monsters responsible for destroying this nation's status as a beacon of human rights deserve to be brought to trial if not in this country (which I am finding less and less likely) then before an international war crimes tribunal. This stain will take generations to fade and I am ashamed of my country's actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 07/27/2008
- Jocalo See Profile I'm a Fan of Jocalo permalink

I weep for my country.
Not only is torture an immoral act that degrades everyone involved, it is also been proven again and again that TORTURE DOESN'T WORK. Just ask John McCain, who told his torturers the names of football players rather than tell them the names of his fellow soldiers. I guess too many people watch tv shows and movies and mistake them for reality. When the stakes are this high and when the consequences are this great, we must use our powers of reason. This is the time to figure out what actually works, and stop with the crap that radicalizes the hopeless, and creates a real threat to our country.
Who will the child in that photo end up being?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 07/26/2008
- Titonwan See Profile I'm a Fan of Titonwan permalink

In "Good Faith". And here the Democratic nominee is trying to cloud the Constitutional distinction between CHURCH and STATE. Ugh ugh, dumb move. Religions tend to go insane when they get REAL power. No, let's not even dare to go down this path. McCain has already got droves of crazies a'fixin' to read ya' from the good book, we don't need that anymore than starting two more wars. Freedom OF Religion and Freedom FROM Religion is the only real Freedom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 07/26/2008
- murdertrain See Profile I'm a Fan of murdertrain permalink

I could not possibly offer a young person a better reason not to join the U.S. military than this memo from the CIA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 07/26/2008
- ajax2 See Profile I'm a Fan of ajax2 permalink

Faith Based Torture, a Bush Legacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 07/26/2008
- outnow See Profile I'm a Fan of outnow permalink

When is the Pope going to make a public statement condemning torture? He finally condemned child molestation by priests after covering it up for years by transferring errant priests and denying their misconduct, if effect calling the child-victims liars. I am disappointed in the so-called Christians for their lack of moral courage on this issue. Was the entire religion not started because of a crusifiction?

Could someone out there please explain to me how this could ever be a Christian Nation with government authorized torture? The words "good faith" and "torture" do not belong in the same sentence. There is no legal, ethical or moral justification for this barbaric practice yet it is now considered "unpatriotic" and "un-America" to say so.

I can still remember when the Commie hunts ended in Congress in the fifties. When Senator McCarthy was revealed for who he was, and his "prosecutor," Richard Nixon, who was on his way to being impeached, resigned. One day, America will wake up to the horror of what second-rate minds have done. Just as the Salem Witchcraft trials were shown to be what they were, this, too, will be revealed to those cowering, frightened little Americans who lack the courage to stand up for human rights. What else is there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 07/26/2008
- nclayla See Profile I'm a Fan of nclayla permalink

There is not such thing as torture done under 'good faith'.

Torture robs both the tortured and the torturer of their humanity. The tortured will regain theirs; the torturers will not.

We are not talking about a spontaneous, emotional act. We are talking about a systematic process of mentally and physically breaking down another human being.

God help us all tonight as we fall asleep in our cozy beds in our air conditioned homes. Our government is systematically inflicting torture upon our enemies - or anyone deemed to possibly be an enemy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 07/26/2008
- BadChristian See Profile I'm a Fan of BadChristian permalink

When will the Bush Regime come out with their guidebooks for Parents.

"Good parents, Good Torture, Good Children"

"A family That Tortures Right, Stays Tight."

How To Raise The Perfect Child"
Naked Pyramids, Sexual Humiliation, Water-boards, Attack Dogs, Dragon Chairs, La Parrilla and Other Forms of Unconditional Love"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 07/26/2008
- marijam See Profile I'm a Fan of marijam permalink

Ala "Dark Knight". I'm down with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 07/26/2008
- outnow See Profile I'm a Fan of outnow permalink

I was in Regensberg, Germany recently where the "Holy Roman Empire" had it's torture chambers. The rack was there and the knuckle-buster machine. There is a lattice screen made out of wood that is, in effect, a one-way window. Lay persons would view the torture. They were the "jury." A physician was in attendance so that the "suspect" would not be killed or have his/her bones broken. Otherwise, all other torture was permitted, but only for the period of two weeks. 100% confessed their crimes such as practicing witchcraft.

"Western civilization?" That would be a splendid idea! When are we going to have that? Probably when the Dark Ages are over and the Enlightenment comes. Don't hold your breath - religions always promote torture to prop up the power of the state. Christianity was the exception but that was hijacked by the Romans when their gods and state failed. Constantine co-opted Christianity for his war - "under this sign you shall conquer!" That was not the message of Christ. It is so turned around that it is bass- ackwards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 07/26/2008
- Titonwan See Profile I'm a Fan of Titonwan permalink

No one seems to mind this. This is terribly disturbing. I guess it's time for some real bad times, as the computer gamer's and pretty much everyone else, is complacent and don't give a rat's @ss. One day there will be a shock!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 07/26/2008
- outnow See Profile I'm a Fan of outnow permalink

Hodie mihi, cras tibi - "today to me, tomorrow to you." Call it karma, call it the Golden Rule, most knowledgeable expert say that torture does not work. Worse, it gives terrorists a recruiting tool. Much of the information obtained from suspects was already known or was designed to mislead. Moreover, some was used to corroborate the war for oil.

I am deeply troubled by the real religion - greed. The Soviets were not nice guys and had nukes, but we did not torture them. In fact, there was professional courtesy extended because both side knew that their power depended on keeping people frightened. We are really fighting Russia and China through proxy wars for oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/26/2008
- syllepsis See Profile I'm a Fan of syllepsis permalink

Torture in good faith is like murder in cold blood.
I have to hand it to the Orwellian hack who came up with this. He has added a new level of repugnance to a crime against humanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 07/26/2008
- LiarLiarIraqsOnFire See Profile I'm a Fan of LiarLiarIraqsOnFire permalink

Torturing in 'Good Faith'

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 07/26/2008
- Tom95134 See Profile I'm a Fan of Tom95134 permalink

It's called "The Inquisition". Now there was torture in "good faith".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 07/26/2008
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