Dems Oust Clinton-Backing Delegate Who Would Vote McCain

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First Posted: 07-25-08 02:39 PM   |   Updated: 08- 2-08 05:12 AM

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Wisconsin Democrats have ousted a delegate to their national convention for saying she would vote for Republican Sen. John McCain.

The Wisconsin Democratic Party's administrative committee voted today to strip Debra Bartoshevich of her status as a delegate to the Denver convention.

Bartoshevich was elected as a pledged delegate for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. But after Clinton dropped out of the race, Bartoshevich told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel she would support McCain.

Bartoshevich says she made the comments during an emotional time and she hasn't made up her mind.

But the party says she violated rules requiring delegates to support its nominee.

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Wisconsin Democrats have ousted a delegate to their national convention for saying she would vote for Republican Sen. John McCain. The Wisconsin Democratic Party's administrative committee voted toda...
Wisconsin Democrats have ousted a delegate to their national convention for saying she would vote for Republican Sen. John McCain. The Wisconsin Democratic Party's administrative committee voted toda...
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If the party rules say you have to support the party candidate, then what's the problem?Debra Bartoshevich may have said what she did in an emotional moment but it doesn't change the fact she not only dissed Obama,she gave her approval of McCain.Now she says she's not sure.That's not backing the party candidate either.That's saying I don't want to miss the convention,but I won't eat crow either. IMHO. if she thinks McCain could be a better candidate,she's not a Democrat and I would rather see her leave the party.Let her go with Lieberman to the other convention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 07/26/2008
- metalpipe I'm a Fan of metalpipe 10 fans permalink
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See ya around, Debra. Enjoy your ride down the river McRepug.

Maybe a dose of Dom Quai would have helped to ease the fog of pre-manapausal enduced rage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 07/26/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 223 fans permalink
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More like the River Styx of Greek mytology, the one that separates us from the Underworld (where he Republicans dwell).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 AM on 07/26/2008
- Softnsweet I'm a Fan of Softnsweet 9 fans permalink
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What does she mean? She has not made up her mind yet? There is nothing to decide, if Hillary lost then she should support the person that won. I live in Wisconsin and would gladly take her postion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 07/26/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 223 fans permalink
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At long last, someone gets tough. Well done, Wisconsin democrats.

('Emotional time', is right: tantrums are always emotional.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 07/26/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 61 fans permalink
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Debra Bartoshevich you're a chump.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 07/26/2008
- SwingVoter I'm a Fan of SwingVoter 19 fans permalink
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Am glad she was disgraced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 07/26/2008
- SwingVoter I'm a Fan of SwingVoter 19 fans permalink
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amen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 07/26/2008
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"Bartoshevich says she made the comments during an emotional time "

Well, if politics is really that hard for her then it's best she stay out. Her attitude is despicable and she doesn't deserve to be a delegate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 07/26/2008
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And they finished the quote "and she hasn't made up her mind".

Hasn't made up her mind about what? Whether to vote for a platform diametrically opposed to the one her chosen candidate was for? Whether to support a man who has ridiculed Obama's health care plan as "HillaryCare"? Whether to cast a ballot for the guy determined to overturn Roe v. Wade? Whether to refuse to support a candidate whose policy positions differ from her vanquished favorite's only in infinitesimal ways and instead help the guy whose party has spent years trying to destroy her?

Someone should tell Bartoshevich that the vast right wing conspiracy is not her friend. And now, neither is her own party.

With her empty, impotent, nonsensical threat (someone should tell her McCain is not now, nor has he ever been, in the running to be the Democratic nominee), Bartoshevich managed to marginalize herself right out of the convention and into the realm of embarrassing footnote/potential Trivial Pursuit question twenty years hence.

And that's more than she deserves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 07/26/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 305 fans permalink
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Well done! If she wants to be Repub nobody is stopping her. She cannot have her cake and eat it too. Now she is free to do whatever she pleases. Good ridance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 07/26/2008
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they finally got some balls, if they would only stand up to this administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 07/26/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 44 fans permalink
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maybe this is the first step

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 07/26/2008
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Hey Nancy and your band of ne'er do wells...if you can do this you can arrest Karl Rove, kick Lierberman out, impeach Bush and Cheney, oust Mukasey and reverse the FISA law...but you can't do those things now, could you, but this idiocy, you can...

Change the name of the Dem party to the Communist party...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 07/26/2008
- condew I'm a Fan of condew 9 fans permalink

That was bizzare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 07/27/2008
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

The puppetmaster lost control of one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 07/25/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 223 fans permalink
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It isn't about puppets and you know it. Anyone who plans to vote the opposition has lost his or her right to be a delegate. If she wants to have a free vote, fine, just make sure she is stripped of her delegate status first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 AM on 07/26/2008
- jeanrenoir I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir 101 fans permalink

Like this woman, most of Hillary's angry supporters are not angry because they are women, but because they are, in effect, Democratic Jewish neocons. They don't trust Obama on Israel, so they are supporting McCain. Hillary was on the record for her wealthy AIPAC supporters as being willing to "obliterate" Iran any time it became necessary for Israel. Obama's, fortunately, not so committed to a Dem neocon stance. Besides, he's independent of rich neocon Jews, because he doesn't need their money, since he raises so much on the Net. This is why people like Hillary's supporter don't trust him. They know they can't influence him with financial threats, the way they've influenced everyone since Reagan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 07/25/2008
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Ummmmm, 18 million Jewish neocons? Im not a world population expert but isnt the TOTAL Jewish population 12 million, or thereabouts? Is she converting? Or have you just lost your anti-semitic marbles/math skills?
Pretty bad when the white/athi­est/middle­-age/middl­e-class /democrat males (me) wont jump on your little wagon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 07/26/2008
- condew I'm a Fan of condew 9 fans permalink

Not the 18 million supporters Hillary once claimed; just the 5 she has left.

Personally I think the holdouts objections are more about race and everything else is bluster and misdirection. On the issues, if you supported Hillary, Obama is 99% of what you want, he's just black and not Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 07/27/2008

Freed just in time to enable her register for the Repug convention

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 07/25/2008

I can't think of a better way to create a ...mole.

Now, she is on both payrolls.

Life..! Don't you love it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 07/25/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 223 fans permalink
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What was the alternative? Do you have one?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 AM on 07/26/2008
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 21 fans permalink

OK, OK

If she did in fact swear under oath that she would vote for McCain, then neither Obama or Clinton will get her vote.
If you "strip" her vote before she votes, then neither Obama or Clinton will get her vote.
Its a power trip at play.
Leave the woman alone. She was elected after all. She hasn't voted yet.
Sounds like totalitarian leadership in Wisconsin.
Are the Republicans like this?
The Green's aren't. Neither are Independents, ha ha.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 07/25/2008
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It has nothing to do with Wisconsin. If you don't know how the delagates work then do some research please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 07/26/2008
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 21 fans permalink

Kinda like being on a jury. You can vote how you want, just don't tell. If they ask after the vote - tell them nothing. Perhaps smile. End of story.

The outhor of the article could do a little research and site the "rule" about "supporting" the candidate of the pledged delegate and what that means.
Also do the rules say "the party" can/must "strip" Debra Bartoshevich of her status as a delegate. How do they determine "support"?
How many pages of rules do the democrats have?
Does anyone but lawyers have them, or read them?
Apparently they are hard to get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 07/25/2008
- kvet I'm a Fan of kvet 2 fans permalink

**Dems Oust Delegate? **

Well, its about time !......

She should have been given the boot, the minute she uttered her stupid words...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 07/25/2008
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 21 fans permalink

Exactly.
A delegate can vote for whom ever they wish. It has been done. Just don't utter words about your vote.
Is this a democracy or what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 07/25/2008
- MYQUEEN7 I'm a Fan of MYQUEEN7 2 fans permalink

Now we are making progress. This woman claims she was just speaking out during an emotional time. "POPPYCOCK!" I saw it on this site several weeks ago, where this woman has set up one of those ridiculous "Hillary or McCain" sites. I am glad she has lost her privilege to represent the Democratic Party. Anyone else?

MOBILIZE! OBAMA 4 PRESIDENT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 07/25/2008

I absolutely agree with you. I remember when this story first broke. It should have been done at that time, but the end result is good no matter what. The woman is an attention seeking freak. Good riddance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 07/26/2008
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