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Obama In Israel: Did He Drop "Change" From His Agenda?

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July 25, 2008 10:31 AM



Overall, the reviews have been stellar for Barack Obama's foreign trip. A fortuitous news cycle laid out the red carpet for the presumptive Democratic nominee in Afghanistan when John McCain decided to announce that more U.S. troops were needed there. And the pattern was repeated again in Iraq, where the prime minister specifically endorsed the Illinois Democrat's withdrawal plan mere days before receiving him.

But in Israel, there persists a sense among some observers that Obama failed to deliver on his oft-repeated promise of "change" during his visit this week.

"From my personal point of view, I was really disappointed," said Israeli former deputy national security adviser Gen. Israela Oron. "There was no special message that you wouldn't expect from any other politician. He didn't say anything that he would regret. But since he is selling some kind of new promise in American political life, I expected him to say or to do something unusual, but he didn't," she told the Huffington Post, adding somewhat playfully: "But who am I to judge an American candidate?"

In fairness, Obama's visit to Israel was perhaps destined to be more politically dicey than his tour of Iraq, a country upon which American public opinion appears settled in favor of withdrawal. By contrast, the question of Israel and its enemies -- Iran, Hezbollah, and stray Palestinian rocket fire -- connects back to issues ranging from the substantive to the bogus that have long proved tricky for the Obama campaign.

On the one hand, the 46-year-old first term senator is working to counter John McCain's advantage on the question of who is more ready to become commander in chief. At the same time, Obama must parry the scurrilous, lingering rumors that he is a Muslim Manchurian candidate who cannot be trusted. Those realities, added to the fact that the margin of his advantage among American Jews could be decisive in key states like Florida, may have ruled out any bold proclamations about the Palestinian cause while in Israel.

Still, no one ever said change would be easy. As the liberal Israeli Ha'aretz put it in a Thursday editorial:

Obama offers the American voter "something new." Therein lies his charm. Israel and the rest of the region's countries need diplomatic innovation as well. But it seems that Obama - like his opponent John McCain and like U.S. President George W. Bush before him - is attempting to assure potential Jewish voters at the expense of promoting the peace processes in the region. ...


To survive as a Jewish and democratic state, Israel needs an American leader who does not fear the reaction of American Jews and non-Jews who do not believe in dividing the land to reconcile its two peoples.

Of course, the Obama campaign may have calculated that disappointing Israel's more dove-ish trends was something they could afford to do, so long as they didn't exit the country's airspace with a problem among hardliners. Judged by the coverage of Israel's more hawkish Jerusalem Post, Obama sounded all the right notes. When they headlined a story about Obama talking "tough," the target of said toughness was Iran, not West Bank settlements. Another Post editorial judged his previously bungled position on Jerusalem as "succinct," and also reported that the conservative Likud Party's leader Benjamin Netanyahu came away "impressed with Obama's understanding of the Iranian threat."

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David Kimche, a former deputy head of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency, described the Jerusalem Post's coverage as key to understanding the fine line Obama walked while in Israel. "With such a sensitive audience, I think he passed the exam very well, in every sense of the word," Kimche said. "I would say that some people were very reluctant to admit he passed the threshold [on security]. Among the more radical elements who are scared stiff of peace, there was a great worry that Barack Obama would be not for the good of Israel. And they were rather reluctant in having to admit that he made all the right sounds. ... You can see it in the statements of some of the Likud leaders, including Netanyahu, who was very careful to not to criticize Obama but had in the past shown his doubts ... They had to admit it when he said the right things."

But not all of the former Israeli officials interviewed by the Huffington Post viewed Obama's trip as devoid of courage. Former national security adviser and deputy IDF chief of staff Gen. Uzi Dayan said Obama risked inspiring new worries when he said he would take a more active role than President George W. Bush in mediating the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. "It was maybe a bit daring, [Obama's talk] about the role of an American president and the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations," Dayan noted. "What he said, if we take him seriously, is that he is willing to sit in the driver's seat. This [has long been] an American dilemma. Not just whether you facilitate or you can coordinate or can implement. But are you going to be a driver or just a facilitator? I think this was his most significant remark."

However, Gen. Oron appeared a bit more jaded on that score, saying: "I'm not sure that he meant that the American government will play a more active role." Suggesting that she had heard as much in previous years, Oron wondered: "What does it mean to play an active role? I don't know what's 'active' anymore."

But still, Oron could at least give Obama some points for connecting on an emotional level with Israelis during his visit to the border town of Sderot, often the target of Palestinian Qassem rockets. "It seemed as if he understood our frustration when he was talking about his daughter, and how he would react if it was his family being attacked. I think that he was able to deliver some words of understanding about our frustration -- that we cannot just sit still and do nothing when this happens, but we also cannot use all our military force."

In the end, despite her own disappointment at the lack of political boldness during his trip, Oron conceded that Obama had made a good impression overall. "He knows what he's talking about. He's very well informed. And of course he's very intelligent."

Overall, the reviews have been stellar for Barack Obama's foreign trip. A fortuitous news cycle laid out the red carpet for the presumptive Democratic nominee in Afghanistan when John McCain decided t...
Overall, the reviews have been stellar for Barack Obama's foreign trip. A fortuitous news cycle laid out the red carpet for the presumptive Democratic nominee in Afghanistan when John McCain decided t...
 
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Funny how people want him to act like a president...by giving detailed speeches....call him either boring if he doesn't or presumptuous if he does.

I am GLAD he didn't overplay his stroke abroad this week. Give them just enough to keep them wanting more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 07/26/2008

The fact is, Obama WILL make an effort to get the Israelis, and Palestinians to come to a peace agreement, because Obama is looking at the peace agreement as something that will positively benefit the lives of the people of both countries.
Obama genuinely understands that it is about the people of both countries being able to live a fulfilling life without having to live with violence, and in fear for the rest of their lives.
Obama would be the one who would put the most effort into helping the Isrealis, and Palestinians find peace among their countries, Obama would actually make it a priority, because Obama realizes that it is really about the children in these two countries being able to live fullfilling lives without violence, and fear!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 07/26/2008

realtalk -

That statement was beautifully said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 07/26/2008
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"Change" is just a benign term Obama and his supporters use when it comes to all things Israel. Obama will not demand that Israel return to the Green Line, cease their illegal occupation of Palestinian territories, dismantle ALL illegal settlements, join the IAEA and allow inspections of their nuclear facilities. This would be just the beginning to dealing with Israel's rogue attitude of a 60 year history flaunting international law and countless U.N. resolutions. The most positive thing any American president could do when it came to Israel is to cut ALL financial aid until the country got its house in order and ceased its illegal occupation and apatheid policies. The Cold War has long been over. Israel offers nothing to the U.S. and in fact creates more porblems for our foreign policies due in no small part because of the violations of international law. The so called "special relationship" between the U.S. and Israel exists solely due to the pressure that AIPAC and Tel Aviv' exert upon American politics. As for the war ravaged Palestinians as long as U.S. political hands are tired by AIPAC's 4th columinsts there will sadly be none, just more of the same they've endured for 60 years by a brutal occupying force

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 07/25/2008
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If I saw all the remains of all those Palestinian rockets that were fired at my town or country, I'd change my views too.

But I would also want to see the intervention by the people of Israel into Palestine and the taking of a person's land. Picture your neighbor telling you he suddenly owns your yard and there is nothing you can do about it.

Neither side wants to be the first one to stop what they are doing and thus, the violence continues year after year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 07/25/2008
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"I expected him to do something unusual, but he didn't".

What, like shoot fireworks out of his arms? Breathe fire?

His change applies mainly to Americans. Americans want change because they don't like the way things are going HERE. To enter a foreign country and start demanding change isn't exactly diplomatic. That's how Bush does things, and the world doesn't really care for that kind of autocratic diplomacy these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 07/25/2008

On the other hand Obama went to Sederot settlement, watching some rocket damage, ignoring the 1.5 million people under siege in what could amount to one of the worst mass punishment in the world currently, and failed to declare one single word of even the mildest criticism to Israel.

I don't get it, does he completely disregard Muslim voters in the US too? They could easily sit this election out, since clearly Obama lacks any form of change in terms of foreign policy towards the Muslim world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 07/25/2008

Obama is a presidential candidate traveling to beef up the foreign policy cred. Not out to campaign in foreign countries.
He also did not say 'yes we can' in his speech yesterday.
That may have something to do with knowing the difference between campaign rhetoric and being a guest in a foreign country where he was not campaigning but, on fact finding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 07/25/2008

...and photo-op finding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 07/26/2008

There's a difference between "change" and "change everything". In other parts of the world, the arrogance of the Bush administration has caused huge rifts that need addressing. However, the US has remained very pro-Israel. So what "change" should Obama be bringing to the Israelis?

Unfortunately for them, if there IS to be a change in the US mideast policy under an Obama presidency, it would most likely be to add more balance to the equation. You know... act as if Palestinians are actually human beings and not deserving of annihilation just because they're in Israel's way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 07/25/2008

EVERYONES A CRITIC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 07/25/2008
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As Obama said over and over again his visit was not political, and he was not the president; thus he had to be careful as to what he said and how he said it. He could not appear to be stating policy and he could not appear to be campaigning. This was a high wire act that I personally believe was excuted very well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 07/25/2008

Obama's prayer was to do God's will.. I'm sure that doing God's will, mean doing the right thing and promoting a Middle-East policy that would bring peace to the region.
http://joeland7.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/is-modern-israel-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 07/25/2008

Change in Washington, not Israel, stupid

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 07/25/2008

Well, 0 is walking a fine line as a candidate overseas with the media breathing down his neck and gramp's campaign waiting for him to make the tiniest slip-up. It means nothing that he didn't go out of the box in Israel. That's the one place he had to really be careful of what he said. So why the criticism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 07/25/2008

With a reported 300 foreign advisors onhis team, General Oron, I sure would expect him to be "well informed". That many wouldl have me on information overload. But as president, he certainly will have that many and more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 07/25/2008
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Israeli former deputy national security adviser Gen. Israela Oron...who the HELL is this?? And why does their opinion matter? Just curious....because it's a lot like saying according to Elliott Abrams (Bush's former deputy national security adviser in case you're wondering) thinks this about that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 07/25/2008
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