Oil Supply Flows On Saturn's Moon

Treehugger:

John McCain wants to drill, drill, drill; oil execs tell him that it will bring the price down quickly. In fact, he credits President Bush just talking about drilling with reducing the price ten bucks a barrel. Here is the best opportunity ever- according to Wired, scientists have just discovered a lake of petroleum on Titan, a moon of Saturn. They call it Ontario Lacus because it is the size of Lake Ontario, but are looking for a less foreign alternative. And you don't even need a drill; just a big bucket.

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Comments

[Badbone]

We wouldn't need a bucket. We would need an airtight container, guarded against exploding. Ethane's boiling point is around -96 degrees. So all that energy would be liquid on the planet, a solid in space as its transported, and a gas on earth. That's not an easy thing to engineer.

Pie (oil) in the sky.

[only1Demvoter]

This probably has already been done, but...

Perhaps the Rethugs, McFlightsuit, and McBlame ( and Waterboys ) can drill on Uranus.

( That'll solve the Intentional Lube Oil Crisis. ) ... Plus ' open up ' vast new fields to speculators.

I believe the salve ' Vaseline ' also comes from petroleum. So, it's a win - win for you, that will soothe the way into the exploration of the moon ( s ) .

As an added bonus, should any additional chances arise to explore any other ' drilling opportunities ', in / on the other Moons, would also be opened up for you ( as usual ).

Space offers many rewarding prospects for The Intrepid Rethug. !


More to follow. -ralph

[yngcelt]

OH, I get it! Anal intercourse humor! How funny and yet so predictable from someone who obviously has nothing of substance or intelligence to bring to the discussion.
While you're at it, why don't you just stick your tongue out, go "nyah, nyah, nyah" and call everyone "poopy faces" since you're already at that level of maturity?

[only1Demvoter]

young : Guess I must have hit a nerve... ' Drill here, Drill now '.

Got nothin', apologist ?

" If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. "

Oil is the problem.

Time for new ideas for new energy sources.

Time for your generation to step up to the plate. Our oil ways are old.

We gave you the computer and the internet, now do something progressive with it.

Unbelievable, the amount of Flush - O ' Lielly drivel you've posted all over this thread, that does not offer any substantive solutions for the crisis except the Rethug Party line... Leaving you zero credibility here... A product of zero original thought !

That and a lot of sniveling. Keep voting Rethug... That'll solve all the ( recent ) problems you're suffering.

When are you sociopaths going to learn ? We already know what you're going to say, and it drives your ilk nuts !

They agree with you over at Freepers and Operation Chaos. Why aren't you drilling over there ? They're ' into ' that sort of thing, in a closeted self - loathing sort of way, you obviously ascribe to.


-ralph

[MajorKong]

That would be some mighty expensive oil if we had to ship it all the from Titan. Having flown tankers in the Air Force I'll be happy to volunteer to pilot a space tanker if needed.

[KillTheMessenger]

There is no oil on Titan. We are talking methane and probably ethane here. And, you are correct. Getting it out of the gravitational well of Titan into the gravitational well of Earth would cost more energy than is contained in the stuff in the first place.

[Weathermaker]

Why bother with Titan, a tiny moon? Let's go and get hydrogen from the freaking Sun. :)))

[ImmanuelGoldstein]

We'll do it at night so the astronauts won't get burned up !

[ronspri]

Celt, more oil doesn't solve the problem. And that is exactly the problem. If we are addicted to oil(which we are) it does no good to go for more of what you are addicted to. Ask any addict. More drilling just doesn't make sense and takes time and money away from a real solution.
As far as solutions go you seem to be far behind the curve. Go to apolloalliance.org for your answer.

[yngcelt]

addiction? Really? So I guess the gas that I need to operate my vehicle to drive 35 miles from home to work and then 35 miles back again is really just an addiction and I need to take my car to rehab?
Reliance on gasoline to operate vehicles and an addiction to illegal and/or illicit substances are apples and oranges my friend!
And I checked out that site by the way. Lots of nice talk about research and "looking into" alternative fuels and such. But guess what? My car doesn't run on "research" or good ideas. It runs on gasoline. Just like every other vehicle in our country including the trucks that carry goods to market and the buses that provide mass transit. So tell me how drilling for more oil is not a solution?

[JaseAllen]

More oil is only a short term solution. If we never get away petroleum based fuels, we will always be at the mercy of the petroleum industries. Pollution and gas prices will continue to grow as long as we have no alternative. This is especially true when people choose to drive big SUVs and live so far away from their job (work so far away from their home).

The long term solution is to develop effective petroleum free transportation. We are now at the early stages with hybrids, plug-in electric cars, hydrogen fuel-cell cars, and even a car that runs on compressed air. Does it help everybody right this instant? No, but spending years searching for off shore oil then billions of dollars building the rigs to extract it doesn't help us now either.

[KillTheMessenger]

Your car might run on gasoline, but unless I am gravely mistaken, it also has four seats, and not just one.

"Use the passenger seats, Luke!"

:-)

[Destin]

yngcelt, why do cars have to run on gasoline? Why can't they run on hydrogen? Why can't they run on solar power? Or electricity?? Why not a tiny pellet of U235 that would power the car for the next millenium?

There's many more ways to power a car, than by gasoline. But the manufacturers, who are in league with Big Oil, will only make cars a certain way. Blame them, not those innovators like us who think that there is a better, cheaper, faster way of doing it. ;)

[whiteboyblues]

This will be one of John McCain's new talking points.

[formlessness]

The key to teraforming Mars lies in with Titan. The key to human survival lies with our ability to teraform mars.

[KillTheMessenger]

If the key to human survival would depend on our ability to teraform Mars, we'd be practically dead already.

I am just glad that it doesn't. That way we still have a fighting chance. And if we got Senator Obama elected president, our chances for that option would increase significantly.

[yngcelt]

yes, because Obama is the Democrat messiah who will cure the sick, heal the blind, lower the price of gas, make all diseases disappear, make friends with all the members of Al Qaida, bring all the troops home in one day, single handedly stop global warming and make all the big bad white men go away!
Isn't that right KTM?

[JaseAllen]

No, the key to human survival lies with our ability to live on our own planet with out polluting it to death. If we continue to poison the Earth, what makes you think we'd treat an inhabitable Mars any different?

[yngcelt]

Oil is at an all time high.
Gas is getting more and more expensive.
We have to get our oil from foreign providers who set the prices per barrel.
There is oil in our own country, but Liberals and Democrats don't want us to drill for our own oil on our own land.
So Liberals and Democrats tell me, what is the solution?
You complain about us relying on foreign oil yet you don't want us to drill on our own land for oil thus becoming more self-reliant.
You talk and talk about "fuel alternatives" but no one has actually come up with anything that is economically feasible for the common man who isn't a Hollywood celebrity or politician who can afford hybrid and electric cars.
So come on all you leftist "intellects"! Let's see you put your collective heads together and tell us what we're supposed to do!

[KillTheMessenger]

Foreign providers are setting the price? Really? And I thought the buyer was setting the price at the pump when they agreed to pay $4.50 per gallon for regular. No foreigner is forcing the American driver's hand to push the credit card through the slot. And the friendly car dealer over at the Hummer dealership is usually also an American. But silly me... I just don't understand.

There is enough oil on our own country? Really? Silly me ... I always thought that US oil production has peaked in 1970. But what do I know.

We need "fuel" alternatives that are economically feasible for the common man? Silly me, I thought there was a thing called the "energy conservation law" which says that the level of your income has no consequence for the thermodynamic efficiency of your engine. But hey, I am here to learn...

Now, seriously, so if I vote for the right party this election, all these problems with reality will go away magically? Who knew. Now all we have to do is to figure out which party has magical powers and we are all set, aren't we?

[yngcelt]

"Foreign providers are setting the price? Really? And I thought the buyer was setting the price at the pump when they agreed to pay $4.50 per gallon for regular. No foreigner is forcing the American driver's hand to push the credit card through the slot. And the friendly car dealer over at the Hummer dealership is usually also an American. But silly me... I just don't understand."
Really? An "agreement"? Silly me, I don't remember anyone asking me if I "agreed" to pay almost $5.00 a gallon. And what exactly does a Hummer dealership have to do with the price of gasoline? The friendly hybrid dealership is usually an American so what does that have to do with anything. I guess you really don't understand how a free market works do you KTM?

[yngcelt]

"There is enough oil on our own country? Really? Silly me ... I always thought that US oil production has peaked in 1970. But what do I know. "
Gee, I guess you don't understand the difference between oil production (that would be existing oil wells...stop me if I'm talking too fast or using words that are too big for you!) and the oil that has been discovered by surveyors but not tapped into because the tree huggers are afraid of some dirty snow in Alaska. Never mind the fact that the Native Americans there welcome the drilling since they would receive renumeration from the government. But hey! Since when has anyone like you ever wanted to see native americans make money?
Oh, and to answer your question, I guess you really don't know much!
:)

[yngcelt]

"We need "fuel" alternatives that are economically feasible for the common man? Silly me, I thought there was a thing called the "energy conservation law" which says that the level of your income has no consequence for the thermodynamic efficiency of your engine. But hey, I am here to learn... "
Yes, and let's hope you actually have the capacity to learn. But so far, it doesn't look too good for you sparky!
My point is that it's easy for the Leonardo DiCaprios, Tom Hanks and the hypocrite Al Gore and their ilk to praise hybrid and electric cars and point fingers at all of us evil people who still drive internal combustion engines when they are the only ones who can afford those overpriced electric and hybrid cars. And let's not forget the fact that those batteries in those cars are not recyclable and replacing them can cost upwards of $10,000.00 or more.

[yngcelt]

"Now, seriously, so if I vote for the right party this election, all these problems with reality will go away magically? Who knew. Now all we have to do is to figure out which party has magical powers and we are all set, aren't we?"
Well, according to the claims of those who supported Hillary and now support Obama, once Obama takes office, all our woes will be gone! Gas prices will return to pre-2000 levels, the air will be cleaner, crime will disappear, every other country will love us, terrorists will no longer threaten us, there will be no more wars, all the troops in iraq and Afghanistan will come home, there will be free healthcare for everyone, there will be rainbows in the sky everyday, unicorns and mermaids will coexist in harmony and rivers of chocolate and caramel will flow from ice cream mountains! Seriously! Just ask any Democrat!