Barack Obama spoke today, outlining his energy plan. He gave three main points, which are summarized in the video below.
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We should be using incentives to make sure the move to solar panels on all roof tops is completed
by 2010. This would create jobs, decentralize power demand, clean the air, provide power during peak hours, cool roof tops, eliminate oil imports, allow us to plug in our cars at home and business locations, and get the economy moving fast.
Nuclear is doomed as nuclear waste is the unsolved billion dollar a year secret. Lets move into the future with clean solar now.
Oil rigs on every coastline will doom our struggling tourism industry already reeling.
Wow, what a speech. He somehow managed to put in a lot of details (boring stuff) into a speech and made it really easy and interesting to listen to. This is the best way to respond to McCain's attack ads. Show him he is wrong without having to resort to his tactics.
" A landscape dotted with 3000 1000 MW fossil and nuclear power plants. A
grievous price will have been paid: capitol cost 42 trillion; water for
condenser cooling—more than two—thirds of the total runoff of our
major rivers and the ecological impact-a possible disastrous
climatologically effect resulting from a massive heat flux.”
Prof. Conta explores the energy problem and comes to the conclusion
that dependence on electrical power from fossil and nuclear plants is
an unattainable goal and suggests that that although electricity from
solar energy is not as yet a cost-effective reality, it is the only viable
alternative next to conservation.
Cong. Rec. , Nov. 12, 1975, S 19743
Unclejoe you raise some great points here.
Folks,, what Joe is talking about is the need to turn Steam back to water as it is reused in conventional Electric Generating plants AND Nuclear too.
In essence,,, after this river water is released back into the river, after being used in the huge condensers, the whole ecosystem of the River is changed. Trout die off, while warm water predatory species grow in numbers.
I would take exception with Prof, Conta,,,that Solar is not yet Cost Effective.
A one time expense, about $8,000 takes a home and Electric CAR or Hybrid off the demand list for future Oil and Coal energy of,,, for 25 years.
25 YEARS!
Add Wind to this approach,, about $6,000 and you are energy free and producing,,, extra power into the grid.
The point still is that the Government and Private industry cannot solve all these problems for us. The Top Down, centralized production model is flawed.
The Distributed Grid model is not. You make the power where it is needed, on the farm, in the towns and cities. Suburbs can sell their power back to industry, factories and high-rise office buildings.
Clean,, FREE, Abundant Power.
The Top Down, Centralized,,,, Government based,,,, Private Industry,, view is not the answer.
The Distributed Grid is.
Clean power, where it is used and needed.
Power FROM the people.
JMO
All the best
Knute Neo-LIB
Does Obama care about the average American..?
Does he want to help lower the Gas and Oil prices destroying our economy..now..?
If he does then he must condemn and call for an end to the Insider trading and market manipulation by speculators on the Commodities and Futures market the worst of them being Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley both of whom gave him huge sums of bundled contributions..
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=n00009638
You didn't bother to read the pdf titled "BARACK OBAMA: NEW ENERGY FOR AMERICA"
Page 2, second bullet point: "Crack Down on Excessive Energy Speculation"
Obama could have won Florida but now, with his flip flop on off-shore drilling, he probably blew it. He should have stayed with his original position and not caved-in--AGAIN!
Agreed.
It looks particularly craven after his earlier (and accurate) denunciation of oil drilling as a poor and false solution.
Once again, the Democrats let the GOP define them and, fearing the liberal tag, flee toward the middle--only to be despised by mainstream Americans for having little or no principles. This is how the GOP wins elections. Could we have someone who says, "Damn right I'm liberal!" How refreshing candor would be among our candidates.
He hasn't changed on that position. He has said that in order to get bipartisan legislation passed that focuses on alternative energy development, he would be in favor of some types of offshore drilling.
It's not a cave or a flop. It's an attempt at a workable compromise.
Understand the position before you condemn it, or you risk being perceived as a false democrat so quick to sell out the candidate.
He has not rolled over on off-shore drilling. If anything, he has tied it to environmental concerns which the Republicans are never going to "compromise" on.
The fact that Obama is even discussing taking oil out o the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) flags him as a panderer and conventional politician. This is X100 worse then the gas tax holiday.
The SPR is a drop in the bucket. Oil traders would eiher laugh at this move or take it as a sign of desperation and oil would trade HIGHER.
The SPR is about a 60 day supply for the USA if armageddon happens. The supply level assumes we can blast or nuke our way out of the worst case scenaro.
The last thing the SPR is to be used as spigot to bring down crude oil prices. But O thinks it will winhim votes. Ha!
Your post illustrates that you don't understand the position. Read the pdf, if you haven't already.
Oil is a temporary and poor solution, as 0bama keeps pointing out, and only a temporary measure to provide some relief at the pump (see his distinction on what constitutes an emergency, as well as the difference between light and heavy crude).
And even after using some of the strategic reserve as a temporary measure, the focus is STILL on alternative energy resources. The goal continues to be energy indepence from foreign oil, and eventually oil altogether.
you obviously don't understand his positions then.
Aren't flexibility and the ability to compromise, signs of great leadership?
http://lamarguerite.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/obama-shows-flexibility-and-strength-in-ener
ReThugs are pretending they are interested in alternative energy solutions .... it's very funny to watch them play act! They are and have been the problem ... for years, they blocked all progressive attempts at disrupting Big american oil profits, why wouldn't they it's this administration's blind trusts. D.Cheney was and is GW's energy czar .. and papa Bush/Caryle Group & the Saudis are familiar bedfellows drenched in the stuff ... oil that is!!
So, here we are america .... watching another ReThug soap opera! The only serious contender in this election cycle is Obama ... for our own good!
No, it''s not signs of great leadership, it's a sign of desperation and caving-in. Instead of trying to persuade the opposition to come over to Obama's views, he takes the easy way out e.g., FISA, death in certain circumstances for rape, denying a woman an abortion if she suffers mentally, for gay rights yet opposed to gay marriage, leaving troops in Iraq and calling home combat troops with those left behind called soemthing else yet telling us he'll end the war and then offshore drilling. If those are centrist standards, I want no part of it or this election.
0bama's position on abortion is misrepresented in your post. Which tells me that you don't really know much about his positions and are probably just here to deride as much as possible.
As to the easy way out, he's been roasted by the left on every position he's taken, so i hardly think it's, as you put it, "the easy way out". And lambasted on the right as well as insulted and ridiculed. If that's the easy way out, i'd hate to see what getting a rough ride would be.
It's fine if you don't like his positions on issues, but don't distort them to try to justify your dissatisfaction with the Democratic nominee.
Look, if you were running for elected office and what you had to work with was the ignorant, dumbed down, misinformed, brain washed American voter, you'd be talking out of both sides of your mouth too. Sometimes the cause of these "flip-flops" is not the politicians, it's the voters.
"My way or the highway", right----Boosh.
liar. flipflop flipflop flipflop. that's all he does, and he does it very well. liar.
we'll all wait for you to post all the lies in that speech.
Jazzy shot her intellectual wad typing flipflop three times. lol
Really..what Lies? There is already a 300 mile per gallon hybrid called the Aptera, so what Obama is saying about one that gets 150 mpg is definitely doable. And for all the "tire gauge" ridiculer morons..I went from 45 mpg to 48.5 mpg just by making sure the tire pressure was inflated to the max psi inflation on my vehicle. limpbaugh and his kind are bought and paid for whores for big oil.
Where are you coming from... Do you have any facts, as said above a good leader can see all sides.
Back to the lair, puma.
You're referring to McCain, correct? Use proper names. You'll make more sense.
The following appeared in the Congressional Record in 1976:
ENERGY.
Senator Edward Kennedy’s approach to our energy problem is quite
different. In introducing the “ Energy Conservation Act of 1976 “
he cautions the Senate, “Moreover, we must be very careful not to
commit ourselves to production strategies that lock the United States into
high-priced energy sources that would leave our economy far weaker and
less competitive in the world markets than would otherwise be the case. We must take prudent action to defend ourselves against the political and economic
threats of another supply interruption by oil exporting countries. But
is this objective better served through a policy that would ‘drain
America first’, or through one that relies on a strategic petroleum
reserve ? Until we can see our long-term energy future with much greater clarity
than is possible today, there are sound reasons not to exhaust our
domestic petroleum resources. A serious commitment to energy conservation is the critical essential next step in fashioning a workable and effective national policy for the United States. The reasons for moving forward now with an active
national program of energy conservation are compelling.”
Cong. Rec. , Nov. 12, 1975, S 19743
Cong. Rec. Nov 17, 1975, S 20186
Jimmy Carter warned us in the 70's that this day would come. We, the voters, the spoiled, ignorant, weak minded, easily deluded and misled voters not only wouldn't listen to him, we scoffed at him. Laughed at him. But who remembers it? We are the United States of Amnesia and we NEVER learn anything, ever. Vidal was right on the money with that observation.
O should hire RM, as a consultant. She is usually, spot on.
Yes she is ... to the letter!
gladys46, GET OVER Delivery as in (snake oil salesman). When you have a Pizza delivered are you more intrested in the quality and taste of the pizza, or what kind of car the delivery guy was driving?
I'd want to know the delivery guy could FIND my house (After all, it is not on the pakistaniraqi border), and manages not to drool all over pizza.
Hi fan ... Haaaaa. I'm very happy with my candidate for POTUS! Do you mind!!??
You really want to compare McCain to a pizza? Not sure if I'd want to go there if I were you.
all you nucleur fans out there please explain what you plan to do with all the waste, other than storing it in the earth?
They have absolutely NO idea........Sheyawn, and faux nooze hasn't told them what to think, yet.
Seems like Bushco isn't waiting for the answer.
"Bush Administration Steps Closer to Building Yucca Mountain Nuclear Waste Dump" See the Faux News http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,362283,00.html
Flushing nuclear turds down Yucca Mountain. There's got to be a joke there...
Store it in Arizona
Store it under The Capitol.
That is the problem with using nuclear energy - you have to have an ultra-safe place to store the waste. Until you can find and develope such a place, it is an all stop situation.
If the technology is ever introduced to manipulate and melt into shape the silicon of the deserts we could use that technology to create large leak-proof containers that would hold the waste forever.
Send it to Iran???
Store it under the houses of all those who believe that there is nothing to fear from nuclear waste. Store it under the houses of the CEO's and Wall Street merchants who peddle this stuff.
no one has mentioned the german plan. homeowners borrow one pt. above prime money from the gov. to add solar panels to their roofs. the loan is usually 10 yrs. they are able to generate enough energy to not only power their homes, but sell the excess back to the utility co. and that excess generates enough $$$ to pay off their loan. basically they don't have an electric bill. the panels are produced in this country. why haven't we heard of this? germany is a very cloudy country so don't tell me it wouldn't work here.
In Republican America we believe oil companies should receive the tax subsidies, as well as low cost leases so that they can pump and sell us back our national oil deposits when and how they choose. Republicans also make sure there's little competition from alternative energy technologies. This keeps profits - and contributions to Repub candidates - high, and encourages our continuing dependence.
Clearly, Germans don't know how to run their country.
Up is down.
mc cain energy plan, more tax cuts for big oil, more drilling. speaking of drilling when you we go to sturgis?
The three main components of Obama’s plan are:
— Get 1 million 150 mile-per-gallon plug-in hybrids on U.S. roads within six years.
— Require that 10 percent of U.S. energy comes from renewable sources by the end of his first term – more than double the current level.
—Reduce U.S. demand for electricity 15 percent by 2020.
Er, uh, if 1 million of us, er, buy plug-in hybrids, won't the, uh, demand for, uh, electricity go up?
Er, uh, DUH
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First Posted: 08- 4-08 12:46 PM | Updated: 08-12-08 05:12 AM