Bush, Maliki Withdrawal Timetable Close: New Signs

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First Posted: 08- 8-08 11:36 AM   |   Updated: 09- 8-08 05:12 AM

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Reports are mounting that a "memorandum of understanding" between the United States and the Iraqi government for a military withdrawal by 2010 or 2011 is almost complete. But though details of the continuing U.S. military presence in Iraq -- and a possible withdrawal -- are coming into focus, the reaction in both Washington and Baghdad is decidedly less predictable.

Whether the deal will even be submitted to Congress or Iraq's Parliament is unknown. And crucially, the timeline could have a major impact on the presidential race between John McCain and Barack Obama. With legislators in both Baghdad and Washington taking an August recess, an extended debate over the Bush-Maliki agreement could lead right up to the election.

As the AP reported Thursday, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and the United States are "near" a deal that would see all "combat troops" departing Iraq by fall 2010, with remaining soldiers taking another three years to fully withdraw.

That tracks with earlier reports from the Arabic press this week. In the August 3 edition of As Sabah -- part of the Iraqi Media Network -- the paper reported that Baghdad and Washington have set a deadline, though one potentially "subject to change according to the circumstances," for a U.S. withdrawal in either 2010 or 2011. In addition, the paper said agreement was close on whether American forces should be required to alert the government before making significant arrests.

Whether the "memorandum of understanding" will be presented to Iraq's Parliament is less clear. Asharq al Awsat has quoted a leading member of the Shiite-led United Iraqi Alliance as saying "the treaty will be first presented to the Iraqi political council for national security, and if the council approves it then it will be presented to the Iraqi parliament, which will have the final word."

But Bahrain's Akhbar al-Khaleej is hearing different, reporting this week that:

[The Bush administration] is primarily concerned with its presidential election campaign, [and] was forced to agree to sign a 'memorandum of understanding,' and not a treaty, as it used to demand. The memorandum gives field jurisdiction to US forces, in order to maintain their presence, and to carry out operations against "terrorism" in Iraq, in addition to receiving immunity.

It is obvious that resorting to this MOU came after the Bush administration became convinced that a US-Iraqi strategic treaty, or agreement, would face difficulty in being approved by the Democrat-controlled senate. ... On the Iraqi side, this MOU will not be proposed to the Iraqi parliament, or the Iraqi political powers; it will be approved by the National Security Political Council, which includes representatives of the major political blocs.

The domestic politics of a timeline agreement could undoubtedly prove problematic for Sen. John McCain, who as recently as Thursday was accusing Barack Obama of wanting to "forfeit" victory in Iraq by pushing for an unconditional withdrawal that's similar to the one reportedly being negotiated by President Bush right now.

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Still, regardless of how the language of the U.S.-Iraqi security agreement shakes out in a final draft, legislators in both countries are likely to want a close look, and some measure of oversight.

Massachusetts Democratic Rep. Bill Delahunt, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Oversight Subcommittee wants to see the final memorandum submitted to Congress, one way or another. And he tells the Huffington Post that Iraqi parliamentarians -- with whom he has established regular contact -- will expect the same courtesy. "Whatever agreement there is, it will have to be submitted to the Iraqi Parliament," he said, adding that the government may need to pass a law on treaty approval before it can take up the U.S.-brokered agreement.

But despite admitting that an agreement is undoubtedly getting near, Delahunt said: "The truth is that there are a lot of uncertainties still surrounding this agreement. The [Bush] administration will obviously say, no matter what is in the agreement, they will maintain it is unnecessary to submit it to Congress. ... It's clear that when they begin this process, they had the intention of working a certain way to circumvent Congress. Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari acknowledged as much to me."

Still, Delahunt said, in light of the fact that the administration's first trial balloon for a new security agreement included references to "an enduring relationship with a democratic Iraq" and provided the U.S. with authorization to "take all necessary measures to preserve peace and security" in the country, the end result is expected to be far less sweeping.

"It's clear to me that it's nowhere near to what they [in the administration] initially were looking for."

Reports are mounting that a "memorandum of understanding" between the United States and the Iraqi government for a military withdrawal by 2010 or 2011 is almost complete. But though details of the con...
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- Veri I'm a Fan of Veri 18 fans permalink

The shaping of Bush's "Cut-and-Run" strategy. Of course, he doesn't have to pretend anymore to the electorate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 08/09/2008

Why isn't Mcsame disgusted with the Iraqi parliament going on vacation like he is with congress? I think American soldiers' lives are worthy of their continuing to work through the summer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 08/09/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

The constitution says Congress shall approve all treaties, however, Bush has always looked at the constitution as a casual document to be tossed aside when necessary. He would probably describe it as "quaint," as his administration did the Geneva Convention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 08/08/2008

When Bush appeared under the "Mission Accomplished" banner, he really thought he was done and that he had won.

Everything since then has been a nasty surprise.

They never ordered new Hummers, so our troops are basically unhorsed.

Who knows how many aircraft have been shot down by stinger-type missles and never admitted.

Shifting the attention to Afghanistan is an attempt to pull some gain out of the disaster.

There has been a news blackout from Iraq most of the year. You don't hide success.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 08/08/2008

John McCain will be free to recalculate this timetable once he thwarts obama with the new rumor scandal that is snowballing: http://tinyurl.com/6jb7l6

lol @ the virgin ex-gf comment

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 08/08/2008

I once had a girlfriend who, over the course of our seven month relationship, would do all sorts of kinky sexual stuff but never wanted to actually have sex, seeing as she was a virgin.

One day I asked her when she thought it would happen, and her answer was this: "Sooner than you expect, but not as soon as you hope."

We never did actually have sex.

I don't know why, but hearing Bush talk about a "time horizon" for troop withdrawal reminds me of my ex-girlfriend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 08/08/2008
- BigLib I'm a Fan of BigLib 18 fans permalink

What happened to the permanent bases Libs have been wailing about?

What happened to the war for oil? Did you get any? I didn't.

Could it be: LIBS LIED; TERRORISTS DIED?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 08/08/2008
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The bases will remain as will our presence that will guarantee that the oil flows in our direction. True Mission Accomplished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 08/08/2008
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Great! No permanent bases in Iraq! Nothing pisses of "terrorists" more than our presence on their sovereign lands! If this administration had a single history lesson, they would understand we're not the only civilization that attempted to colonize Baghdad. We may have been the first to kill their leader, but was it worth it? Did jesus-frea­k-foreign-­policy work for our betterment? Their betterment?

What happened to the war for oil? Well, it looks like it's being wound down in line with our political process. Also, what happened is the region was even further destabilized, which allowed our markets to become volatile, because of the political uncertainties of the region.

"LIBS LIED; TERRORISTS DIED"? What does that even mean? Libs are seeking truth, and it appears that the truth is being brought to bear on a world stage, with the "libs" beginning to heal this mess and move us into the future.

Your spoils of war will be a better and more democratic future. I won't even stoop so low to think of a snarky name to call you. Your comment does enough to deface yourself

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 08/08/2008
- Veri I'm a Fan of Veri 18 fans permalink

The American military had to seek Sunni Muslim help in squelching the AQI. Without that help, casualties would continue to mount. Gasp, Muslims helping Americans instead of bombing us? Heresy!

Despite all the tough rhetoric from Bush-Cheney, they seemed to have reversed course on just about.... everything. Except enriching themselves and their buddies. Christians are useful tools in elections. Feed them the right lines and throw them a few old bones and they will do anything for you. Hell, they will even pick up the tab for their own mugging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 AM on 08/09/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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The Shrub so miscalculated the aftermath of this foolishness, it isn't funny.

He is now agreeing to a "timetable" that he said he would never do, he's probably going to leave without and [production agreements so the Iraqis will control their wn oil and he's sent billions on bases that we'll only be occupying for the next 18 to 24 months.

And I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that he's responsible for the deaths of a hundred times as many innocents than terrorists!

SHRUB LIED, AMERICA DIED!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 08/08/2008
- Big0725 I'm a Fan of Big0725 23 fans permalink
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Sorry, tht should read "any production agreements" and "own oil". Pardon my error.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 08/08/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 357 fans permalink
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With the group we've got now, I don't believe any timeline will ever be more than an "aspirational goal". They don't have any intention of leaving without the oil, or without having expanded operations into Iran and Syria. I don't think they'll ever really change. If McCain wins, all this talk of withdrawal will be buried under a new barrage of manufactured threats, and we'll stay in Iraq for every bit of that 100 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 08/08/2008

What a waste, what a shame!!. US will get NOTHING out of this, NOTHING. Just billions and billions of your tax money wasted on a foolish, conniving aggression that rendered the US a laughing stock all over the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 08/08/2008

yes bring our troops home before the elction so theyre votes will count for us repubs asObama didnt even think to visit them while he busy acting like a rock start in europe, guess visiting troops would offend you limp wristed libs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 08/08/2008

I see you are one of those idiots that believes in the phony left/right paradigm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 08/08/2008
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LOL! Only someone up to his eyes in partisanship would make a silly remark like that. Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 08/14/2008
- BigLib I'm a Fan of BigLib 18 fans permalink

Barry can visit them in the U.S. He'll have plenty of time after November when he's not "community organizing".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 08/08/2008
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That's pure BS. The clips of Obama with smiling applauding troops in Iraq were on the real news. You must have not been watching. In Germany Bush ordered the troops to stay away from the Obama rallies, so Obama respectfully kept his distance, per dear leaders wishes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 08/08/2008
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Yes, bring them home, so the war will conveniently fit into our political timeframe. So funny how wars do that.

Also, you meant "their" instead of "theyre".
You're missing a "was" between "he busy"
You meant "star" instead of "start".

And all of these "limp wristed libs" are strong enough to get Bush to move on this issue. What has your nominee done, except for repeat the same tired politics?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 08/08/2008

I love your type: Your clearly superior writing / grammar skills don't make your point more valid or the opposition's less valid. But clearly you are far more intelligen­t...

Speaking of tired politics "change" getting a bit old...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 08/09/2008

I think Bush is singing a tune that someone else wrote. The tune is "You are over, and so is this war." As to who that someone else is, think about all the people who have real power based on wealth and position. In the corporate world, Bush would have been fired a long time ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 08/08/2008
- cam I'm a Fan of cam 5 fans permalink

The Bush Administration cannot afford to be any part of a deal that does not secure Iraq's oil reserves - it would invalidate the whole Iraq venture. If they cannot seize the oil then they will play out the clock until the withdrawal happens on the Democrats watch.

Of course events often assume their own momentum - especially when being directed by incompetents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 08/08/2008
- kirsch59 I'm a Fan of kirsch59 3 fans permalink

What about the oil contracts?
What about staying in Iraq for 100 years?

Let's make sure there are no detours on the way home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 08/08/2008

Out by 2010, drill at home, with alternatives on the horizon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 08/08/2008
- loax I'm a Fan of loax 20 fans permalink

What have you got to say now Johnny boy? Your buddy Boosh left you hanging. Sooo Republican, kiss you on the cheek while stabbing your in the back. The only thing Boosh is worried about is his legacy. It still won't be worth 2 cents, which is a penny less than yours!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 08/08/2008
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The Republicans are trying to do a head fake. "See, Iraq's not an issue... heh, heh... vote for McCain... that's the ticket... heh, heh)

You could see this coming last year when they announced that troops would be drawn down in September. Typical Grand Old Propagandists strategy. It reminds me of Nixon.

Obama-Webb '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 08/08/2008
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