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First Posted: 08-11-08 01:58 PM   |   Updated: 09-11-08 05:12 AM

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President Bush and other Western leaders have sharply criticized Russia's military response as disproportionate and say Russia appears to want the Georgian government overthrown. They have also complained that Russian warplanes -- buzzing over Georgia since Friday -- have bombed Georgian oil sites and factories far from the conflict zone.

The world's seven largest economic powers urged Russia to accept an immediate cease-fire Monday and agree to international mediation. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her colleagues from the Group of Seven leading industrialized nations spoke by telephone and pledged their support for a negotiated solution to the conflict.

"I've expressed my grave concern about the disproportionate response of Russia and that we strongly condemn the bombing outside of South Ossetia," Bush told NBC Sports.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin criticized the United States for viewing Georgia as the victim, instead of the aggressor, and for airlifting Georgian troops back home from Iraq on Sunday.

"Of course, Saddam Hussein ought to have been hanged for destroying several Shiite villages," Putin said in Moscow. "And the incumbent Georgian leaders who razed 10 Ossetian villages at once, who ran elderly people and children with tanks, who burned civilian alive in their sheds -- these leaders must be taken under protection."

The U.S. military was flying Georgian troops back from Iraq on C-17 aircraft and had informed the Russians about the flights before they began in order to avoid mishaps, said one military official said Monday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the subject on the record.

Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said Monday morning that U.S. officials expect to have all Georgian troops out of Iraq by the end of the day.


ABC publishes the sharp exchanges between Putin and the United States:


Bush, who was attending the Beijing Olympics, told NBC Sports that the Soviet offensive was unacceptable.

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"I've expressed my grave concern about the disproportionate response of Russia and that we strongly condemn the bombing outside of South Ossetia," Bush said. "I was very firm with Vladimir Putin." Bush said he made the same point later in a phone call to Russian President Dmitri Medvedev.

Vice President Dick Cheney was more blunt, telling Georgia's president that "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and that its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States."

Asked to explain Cheney's phrase "must not go unanswered," White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said, "It means it must not stand." White House officials refused to indicate what recourse the United States might have if the attacks continue.

Putin fired back at the U.S. today, indicating he was particularly upset at the American military for flying 2,000 Georgian troops from Iraq, where they were helping out their U.S. allies, back to Georgia.

"It is a shame that some of our partners are not helping us but, essentially, are hindering us," Putin said. "I mean ... the transfer by the United States of a Georgian contingent in Iraq with military transport planes practically to the conflict zone."

Putin's emotional speech said the U.S. was wrong to blame Russia for the outbreak of war.

"The very scale of this cynicism is astonishing -- the attempt to turn white into black, black into white and to adeptly portray victims of aggression as aggressors and place the responsibility for the consequences of the aggression on the victims," he said.

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- gwithc I'm a Fan of gwithc 2 fans permalink

All I know is, the US armed and trained Georgian troops.

McCain wholeheartedly supported that move.

The citizens of S. Ossetia say they were attacked by Georgian arms and troops.

Russia says they went in to stop the Georgian aggression against non-armed citizens.

No matter who started it, there are more innocent people dead and suffering than the guilty perpetrator's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 08/14/2008

NATO is expanding relentlessly eastward. The US is using NATO offensively, though they claim defensively, and are purposely ring-fencing Russia with anti-missle systems. The US has expanded into Easter Eurpoe, Iraq and Afghanistan. The US andf Israel have expanded into the Caucuses (Georgia) and have supplied them with weapons and training. Georgia attacked Russia at the behest of the US to make Russia a bogeyman and to expand NATO further with the inclusion of Georgia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 08/13/2008

Umm S. Ossetia is part of Georgia. Georgia sent troops officially into Georgia. All the other stuff about missle rings are correct. As correct as Russia claiming the entire arctic shelf as Russian territory or flying bombers into our airspace or shadowing our subs or making a new WMD that is non nuclear but delivers an even more devastating explosive load. Anything else? Why can't we be honest that nations jockey. Not one nation Jockied another and the other did absolutely nothing wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 08/13/2008

The Soviets used a similar excuse to invade Afghanistan this is typical of them, i think we need to give the Georgians stinger missle's...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 08/11/2008
- mcole I'm a Fan of mcole 5 fans permalink

maybe you should do some reading...GEORGIA STARTED IT!! THEY FIRED FIRST!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 AM on 08/12/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

the stopped firing first, too...russia, of course, sees that type of action as a show of weakness

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 AM on 08/12/2008

Georgia fired after Russia moved in troops onto their sovreign turf. Georgia started after Russia made all non Ethnic Georgians Russian citizens. Georgia started nothing. Russia became involved in internal affairs of Georgia. When Georgia asserted its recognized international rights Russia attacked to defend Russians (newly converted). Those are the Russians Georgia attacked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 08/13/2008
- michael429 I'm a Fan of michael429 12 fans permalink
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Wake up...this is likely collusion on the part of Putin and the Neocons....Putin does not do this without somekind of approval from them....it is made to order....he get's what he is after.....creates an international incident....and somehow ( i have yet to figure this part out) McCain benefits from it.....

Russia still depends on us for too much to risk this....after all it was the unauthorized aggression of Saddam Hussein (who mistakenly thought he Bush One permission) that resulted in "Regime change"......

if he did this without our wink and nod or our complicity, why the double standard?...come on Georgie boy , be a hero...go get Putin!! Go George, Go!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 08/11/2008

"Wake up...this is likely collusion on the part of Putin and the Neocons..."

You gotta laugh at some of comments in this thread.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 08/11/2008

Kind of bad timing for a secret neocon deal, u got to laugh at left wing paranoia..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 08/12/2008

During the Iranian hostage crises the Soviets lined up tank battalians along the Iranian border but now the US is in Afghanistan they do not have a border with Iran to line up tanks on so they are exploiting the another Iranian crises by invading Georgia..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 08/11/2008
- hexham I'm a Fan of hexham 9 fans permalink

Saakashvili has staged this entirely to try to draw us into the conflict. Everything he is saying "these bombs have writing on them: This is for NATO, this is for U.S." is trying to make us take the bait and have a military response from NATO. It was calculated to make a new cold war with us and Russia, because in a new Cold War, Georgia becomes strategically more important. In the case of trying to foment a new cold war, Saakashvili's attack under his cover of his own ceasefire - a cowardly act - is actually working. McCaint has taken the bait that he likely placed on the hook himself, and wants to build the view of Russia as Demon. Nothing happens by accident.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 08/11/2008
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbAsvMH9vzo

Georgia pokes bear with stick, then freaks out over bear attack. So yeah, whoda thunk it would turn out just like this video.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 08/11/2008
- hexham I'm a Fan of hexham 9 fans permalink

about as succinct a summary as I've seen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 08/11/2008
- mcole I'm a Fan of mcole 5 fans permalink

THANK YOU!!

i dont knwo why people dont bother to read

georgia started by attacking that town. they started it, now they are crying foul. typical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 08/12/2008

The fattest mother of all hypocrisies,

WHO says that the Russians are being bad?

WHO tells their friend the Georgians who started this by killing a bunch of innocent people with their aggressive attacks onto more then then civilian villages?

Is it maybe the same Nation who as the second in modern history had the stomach to use the idea the old Germans from the 1930s and 40s did? the so called Pre-emptive attacks?

Is it maybe the best friend of the ass kissing Georgian President?

Wow, I am astonished. The same men who where the architects behind an attack on a sovereign Nations (see Iraq) is now calling for Russia to halt their attacks against their own aggreeors. This time around it is damn misleading because Russia is a Nation which de-facto ran in to protect and retaliate against an aggressor who had violated citizens of their own?

Who the hell is the US to be shouting foul at the Russians?

The freaking US did must worse them selves.

Hey Bush, Cheney and company...­........lo­ok into the mirror idiots!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 08/11/2008

You know the routine we restore democracy and they take it away...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 08/11/2008
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Except "democracy" doesn't mean to the NeoClowns what normal people think it means. To the NeoClowns, "democracy" means obliterating local cultures and econonomies via wars, drug running/dumping and predatory loans, and then setting up puppet dictatorships in exchange for "saving" them. Then Bechtel rapes the land of it's natural resources and turns the peasants into functional slaves. What a racket!

I shudder at NeoClown attempts to "protect democracy" at home, too. It's all very creepy, and very obvious, and we need to wake up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 08/12/2008

George Bush started the Georgia Russia war when he spoke in Tiblisi. He encouraged militant action by Georgia against Russia in South Ossetia by promising Georgia the US and Europe would back them up even stating "American people will stand with you". Quotes from Bush's speech in context below clearly show how his militant talk set Georgia up to fail. Bush also armed the Georgians to the point Georgia was the fastest growing military in the world. Now the Bear has awoken, has tasted blood, and found it invigorating. This happened because of Bush and the militants who support Bush, McCain, and sometimes Hillary.


QUOTE FROM BUSH'S SPEECH IN GEORGIA
"On that historic day, you reclaimed your sovereignty, but the hopeful start you made was not fulfilled. So 18 months ago, Georgians returned to this square to complete the task you began in 1989. You gathered here armed with nothing but roses and the power of your convictions, and you claimed your liberty. And because you acted, Georgia is today both sovereign and free, and a beacon of liberty for this region and the world. (Applause.)

The path of freedom you have chosen is not easy, but you will not travel it alone. Americans respect your courageous choice for liberty. And as you build a free and democratic Georgia, the American people will stand with you. (Applause.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 08/11/2008

and did the ethnic cleansing begin then?

is there reason that South Ossetia wants to secede and become part of the Russian Nation again?

Might North Ossetia be a part of that reasoning?????

Like O says....

Look at the BIG picture and not the little one.... Diplomacy first!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!1

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 08/11/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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I have never seen people on pot get into a fight...

because it's f*cking impossible

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=704479983955779521

click here only if you need a few Bill Hicks laffs...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 08/11/2008

Al Gore smoking pot in Nam made him the sharp fellow he is today..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 08/11/2008

Yawnnnnn this is a week or two week conflict but the neo’cons and the US MSM will make it bigger then life.

The Russians can’t afford to get into a long conflict with the west and of course we can’t do anything about this situation complements of GWB.

I swear JSM and GWB will try anything to change the narrative any fear that you think we feel about his is overate GWB and neo’cons have had all the scare they can muster out of the citizens of this country.

Am I simplifying this situation your dam n right I am because it’s a none story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 08/11/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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It could last MORE than a week or two; until it takes Ru ssia to bring Ge orgia back into the fold...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 08/11/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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S olution:

P ut P utin, Sa akashvili and B ush i nto a r oom

a nd fi re u p a f at on e...

SH EEESH, mo derators

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 08/11/2008

I thinks we shood have us a prayr meetin' and ask the gud lord whut to doo!
Get Rex n Grovr n Billy, n Benny n John.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 08/11/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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Is Turn The Other Cheek even on the table?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 08/11/2008

If it is, it's only because someone over there shot it off of the person it belonged to and they're trying to get it sutured back on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 08/11/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

for the left, turn the other cheek IS the table...regardless what the other guy is trying to do

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 08/12/2008
- LeSamourai I'm a Fan of LeSamourai 16 fans permalink
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Videos from the UN - you get to hear the Russian, Georgian, American, and French points of view:

http://www.un.org/webcast/sc.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 08/11/2008

Every patriotic American should get down on their knees tonight to thank The Good Lord for providing America the stalwart and inspiring leadership of George W Bush, the man who, with help from manly patriots like Scooter LIbby, Al Gonzales, and Karl Rove, overcame the nattering nabobs of partisan Democratic Party negativity - and their resistance to his genius in foreign policy and economic policy.

Some will recall, perhaps even get a little misty eyed at the remembrance, moments of brilliance like "Mission Accomplished" and our magnificent leader meeting the Russian Bear in his lair to have a peek into Putin's eyes where he saw "goodness" in Putin's soul. This fellow George W. Bush is a man!

Go ahead and watch the Olympics. Refuse the Russian bait. Americans can safely relax, secure in the knowledge the American president is on the case.

If George W. Bush is the living manifestation of the iconic thought, "What, me worry," then who are we to worry?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 08/11/2008
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Though it could have been worse, Gore or Kerry might have been president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 08/11/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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Solution:

Put P utin, Sa akashvili and B ush into a room

and fire up a fat one...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 08/11/2008
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