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NYT Backs Up NBC: McCain Was Not In "Cone Of Silence" Before Saddleback

Huffington Post   First Posted: 9/17/08 Updated: 5/25/11

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Last night, John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis sent a strongly-worded letter to NBC News president Steve Capus, complaining about "unsubstantiated, partisan claims" on the network made "in order to undercut John McCain."

The claim in question was made by Andrea Mitchell on yesterday's broadcast of "Meet the Press," while discussing McCain and Obama's respective performances during the Saddlebeck Forum on Faith led by Pastor Rick Warren. The full quote is as follows:

MITCHELL: The Obama people must feel that he didn't do quite as well as they might have wanted to in that context, because that — what they're putting out privately is that McCain may not have been in the cone of silence and may have had some ability to overhear what the questions were to Obama.... He seemed so well-prepared.

In the letter, reprinted by Mike Allen of Politico, Davis claimed that the claim was "completely unsubstantiated" and a "blatant falsehood."

However, the New York Times' Kit Seelye has boldly backed up Mitchell's claim in today's story, "Despite Assurances, McCain Wasn't in a 'Cone of Silence'." Per Seelye:

Senator John McCain was not in a "cone of silence" on Saturday night while his rival, Senator Barack Obama, was being interviewed at the Saddleback Church in California... The matter is of interest because Mr. McCain, who followed Mr. Obama's hourlong appearance in the forum, was asked virtually the same questions as Mr. Obama. Mr. McCain's performance was well received, raising speculation among some viewers, especially supporters of Mr. Obama, that he was not as isolated during the Obama interview as Mr. Warren implied.

(snip)

Mr. Warren, the pastor of Saddleback, had assured the audience while he was interviewing Mr. Obama that "we have safely placed Senator McCain in a cone of silence" and that he could not hear the questions... Interviewed Sunday on CNN, Mr. Warren seemed surprised to learn that Mr. McCain was not in the building during the Obama interview.

This corroborates Mitchell's report, which was "McCain may not have been in the cone of silence" (he wasn't, at least not for the duration) and "may have some ability to overhear" the question (unclear, but if the purpose of the 'cone of silence' is to guard against that, then presumably being outside it might have afforded that opportunity.

But even without Seelye, Mitchell was corroborated...by Davis. He wrote, "The fact is that during Senator Obama's segment at Saddleback last night, Senator McCain was in a motorcade to the event and then held in a green room with no broadcast feed." That means that he was not in the cone of silence during the Obama questioning, confirming Mitchell's report.

The issue, of course, isn't whether or not he cheated, but whether he could have cheated. The cone of silence was meant to ensure that the second candidate had no possible advantage over the first. It is a time-honored tradition, from its coinage on TV show Get Smart to a reference on Everybody Loves Raymond to numerous game shows through history.

McCain spokeswoman Nicolle Wallace, told the NYT that McCain had not heard the broadcast while in the motorcade, nor had he any of the questions. That neatly accounts for just one way McCain might have learned the content of the questions; the event was being broadcast live, and presumably his aides have Blackberries. Coaching could have taken place without McCain hearing anything directly from the broadcast at all.

This is not meant to make the claim that McCain received information relating to Warren's questions to Obama, just that he could have done, since the constraints of the cone of silence were not in effect. Those constraints were pointedly put in place by Pastor Warren to provide an excplicit safeguard of fairness, and it was reported to the audience as such. The fact that such a safeguard might not have been universally applied is a relevant fact, one which Mitchell reported dispassionately, citing the source (the Obama campaign), providing caveats ("may have") and providing the context (that McCain had performed very well). Today, Kit Seelye and the NYT back that up.

This, incidentally, is the third letter of complaint Capus has received this year relating to perceived bias by presidential figures. In February, presidential contender Hillary Clinton wrote to Capus complaining about David Shuster's use of the term "pimped out" to describe daughter Chelsea Clinton's campaigning on her behalf. In May, White House Counselor Ed Gillespie took issue with the editing of an interview conducted by Richard Engel, including in his complaint to Capus a suggestion of overall liberal bias at NBC from cable sibling MSNBC. Davis made a similar allegation in his letter, expressing concern that "your News Division is following MSNBC's lead in abandoning non-partisan coverage of the Presidential race" and requesting a meeting to discuss the McCain campaign's "deep concerns about the news standards and level of objectivity at NBC."

It's a claim that tends to rally the GOP base; after the NYT's front-page story implying improper relations with a young blonde lobbyist, McCain vowed "war" against the paper; his supporters responded with a surge in donations. McCain's and he has continued to fan those flames.

This, like the Gillespie letter, may be the real reason for the complaint: Airing the grievance that NBC is being corrupted as a news organization, and tilting liberal under the weight of MSNBC. It's what AP television writer David Bauder called "the soft white underbelly" of NBC News, and it's an easy target for Team McCain, whose base is no fan of the so-called "liberal" media — and more and more, conservative elements have been including NBC in that grouping (cf. Bill O'Reilly).

Whatever motivation McCain and Davis have, they picked a bad battle to fight here, because Mitchell was right: McCain was not in the Cone of Silence for the duration of Obama's questioning.


McCain Protests NBC Coverage [Politico]
Despite Assurances, McCain Wasn't in a 'Cone of Silence' [NYT]

Related In 'Do Questions Matter, Anyway?':
Despite Request, McCain Resorted to Stock Answers at Faith Forum
[CBS News]

Related In Angry Letters To Steve Capus:
Hillary Clinton's Letter To Capus [Politico]
Ed Gillespie's Letter To Capus [The Page]
Rick Davis' Letter To Capus [Politico]

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09:05 PM on 08/21/2008
The cone of silence needs to a get a proper tone on the phone before their zone is drone.
06:06 PM on 08/21/2008
This may not be a bad thing for Obama,now expectatio­ns will be low for his debates and there is noway MCcain can think quicker on his feet htan Obama.
12:41 AM on 08/21/2008
In order to avoid a possible cheating by McCain (which should not have been a surprise, hello!) the Obama camp should have insisted on Barack to appear second. The biggest problem for the upcoming election is not how Obama will fare against McCain (he will do splendidly well), but how to make sure there will not be electronic vote cheating. Insist on ballot paper trail!
01:45 AM on 08/21/2008
EXACLTY that's the point!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!
Haven't you noticed that the last 2 controvers­ial GE curiously benefited to the Republican­s????
So something'­s telling me that it's gonna be the same drama and it will even be WORSE!!!!!­!!!!!!!
So i don't how but Democrats MUST find a way on their OWN to anticipate the stealing or "miscalcul­ation" of the votes and they better start thinking seriously about NOW!!!!!!
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10:17 AM on 08/21/2008
Greg Palast working for the BBC predicted last year that the 2008 election has already been stolen. There are some 5 MILLION mostly left leaning voters (mostly black) who have had their votes SUPPRESSED through CAGING SCHEMES, CHALLENGES­, VOTER SUPPRESSIO­N, ID LAWS etc.
I predicted last year that the corporate media would promote Obama over Clinton simply to destroy her in the primaries and then the full force and weight of the propaganda machine would be turned on Obama assuring the GOP candidate the presidency­. And it appears I was correct.
All the Obama supporters were duped.
03:38 PM on 08/21/2008
The only way Republican­s can win is by cheating. Heard of a website dedicated to investigat­ing Karl Roves antics: http://www­.velvetrev­olution.us­/prosecute%5Frove/

http://hea­linganatio­n.wordpres­s.com/
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zell
10:06 PM on 08/20/2008
I see that McCain is ahead by five points in the Zogby poll. Well, I would be suspicious of that poll, if Zogby got the results with computer polls. I am one of the people Zogby polls on the computer and I have wondered, while I am answering the questions, whether people are cheating under the computer polling system. It is easy for people to sign up for the Zogby poll. Everytime I complete a poll for them, they have a message that say, "tell your friends to sign up." Now, if the neocons want to fix Zogby or anybody else's poll, all they have to do is "have their friends sign up." I remember, eight to ten years ago, Zogby was the "cadillac" of polls. Things may be different now.
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kassandrasduplex
10:25 AM on 08/21/2008
Polls are untrustwor­thy since the Bush campaign destroyed the value of exit polls in 2000 and 04. But more importantl­y has been the subtle shift in coverage for Obama. While in the primaries the media coverage favored him over Clinton, now in the general, the media coverage is favoring McCain. Is anyone really surprised that the GOP, a wealthy political party which claims ownership control of the major media outlets (the executive ownership of this countriy's newspapers and TV networks is right leaning) appears poised to "win" another election? The elections are rigged with biased media coverage, as well as voter suppressio­n (which is never really covered by the media, voter fraud yes, voter suppressio­n, no).
The republic is dead, folks. That's why all those other countires around the world have such civil strife, because they well understand their leaders' corruption­. Americans are naive.
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02:03 PM on 08/21/2008
You are so right. I also participat­e from time to time in those online Zogby polls and they are not
"Scientifi­c" at all (if any of them are).
08:57 PM on 08/20/2008
We should all e-mail Pastor Warren and let him know that we are aware that Senator McCain, shamelessl­y heard Senator Obama's segment either electronic­ally, or Senator McCain was
allowed sight of the questions prior to the debate. The reason is that Senator McCain answered
before the question had been put to him. What if there was an addition to the main question.
It showed, like the school boy who saw the answers, that Senator did not think of an answer.
We should let the Pastor know how disappoint­ed we are with him. If anyone know Pastor
Warren's e-mail, please post it.
05:58 PM on 08/20/2008
Cone of Silence Suffers Technical Glitch Again!
04:51 PM on 08/20/2008
Somebody suggested to use this saddleback­'s deceit in an ad
that's a real good idea!!!!
with many other stupid statements Mc CAIN made like"I know where ben Laden is"
or back in 2003
"Sen. McCain, on the 22nd of May, 2003, said, of Iraq, on the Senate floor, “We won a massive victory in a few weeks, and we did so with very limited loss of American and allied lives. We were able to end aggression with minimum overall loss of life, and we were even able to greatly reduce the civilian casualties of Afghani and Iraqi citizens."
Today you say, “victory in Iraq is finally in sight?”
That's a quite curious judgment of the situation for a commander in chief
03:33 PM on 08/20/2008
mcCain is a typical lying, stealing republican right winger. they all lie to cover up their stealing, affairs and corruption­. They hate the constituti­on. they hate the rule of law. They are not fit to hold office.

So why do rightwinge­rs come here and lie and distract? That all they know how to do.
They hate America.
04:41 PM on 08/20/2008
Since we know that WARREN and Mc CAIN LIED the only thing to dois just stop whining, wait for the 4 th and then VOTE
No matter what can be said here or in any forum or elsewhere
the only EFFECTIVE response to all that Lying GOP/SADDLE­BOCK machine IS
VOTE !!!!!!!!!!­!!!FOR8888­8 OBAMA
PERIOD!!!!­!!!!!
09:51 PM on 08/20/2008
right and when they're caught they turn it right on the agent who is telling the truth-in this case NBC-in the Iseman case, it was the Times.
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02:21 PM on 08/20/2008
The bottom line here is we have a character issue. Anyone who watched McCain that night could tell that he was prepared for the questions. McCain is a bumbler on his best day when he is off the cuff. He did not have to give any question a thought because he knew what to expect. Why was'nt he at the church ON TIME and sequestere­d? SO HE COULD CHEAT! He stood up in that church in front of God and the audience and Warren and LIED. Someone needs to make a commercial about this and call him on the carpet.
02:33 PM on 08/20/2008
Exactly. The public eats up "character­" issues. And this has the bonus of being a real one.
dhinds
I post defined positions on issues, not labels.
07:43 PM on 08/20/2008
He had the questions long before the event- He was obviously coached and practiced in advance.
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olgraydawg
01:41 PM on 08/20/2008
I can't believe Obama insisits in being stupid enough to meet these people on turf they've selected in advance. They've proved themselves incapable of being truthful. This man wanted to enter his elderly wife in the Buffalo Chip sillycone breast contest courting votes. Does anyone remember the Shrub's suit coat bulge? We're supposed to believe the tailor did'nt notice a bulge the size of a landscapin­g brick in the back? Cheese and F#####g crackers. They're busy self-destr­ucting and their house of cards is falling all around them. Stay clear of their crap. The P.I. kicked us out, the saudis don't want us. The South Koreans are finding out all of the demons are not in the north. We've talked down to the European community for years, (freedom fries), and now we're selling tickets to a sinking ship. The freakin lobbyists will make money off killing American kids. We're already in the damn high schools seeking cannon fodder, not Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Stanford. Fighting for the oil companies to screw us harder deeper and longer. We burn oil to combat the sun and fight the wind. Bring back the draft.
01:24 PM on 08/20/2008
Why doesn’t the media call John McCain out for lying to the church people/pre­acher

He didn't say he was stuck in traffic & in the cone of silence for 15 minutes

He lied that he has a relationsh­ip with John Lewis civil rights activist – John Lewis said that McCain doesn’t consult with him and he (John Lewis) doesn’t consult with him.

If that man can lie to a mister & all of those Christians – he is going to be worse than bush

THIS MAN DOESN'T RESPECT HIMSELF OR OUR COUNTRY
12:43 PM on 08/20/2008
http://new­s.yahoo.co­m/s/politi­co/2008082­0/pl_polit­ico/12656;_ylt=Akt_­BFOoYOr47v­7b.l0OaG1s­nwcF

Devastatin­g poll.
12:42 PM on 08/20/2008
All I know is McCain is ahead of Obama for the first time with a 5 point lead. The whining is only making it worse.
06:03 PM on 08/20/2008
"The issue, of course, isn't whether or not he cheated, but whether he could have cheated."

No, this is a total smokescree­n, I say as an enthusiast­ic Obama supporter.

This issue is, why is McCain seen as having "won" this confrontat­ion? A side issue is whether McCain DID cheat. Repeat, not whether he COULD have cheated. Who cares? But did he?

I think that most people running for President, especially in the gruelling one Obama has been in, have been well prepared for almost any question that can be thrown at them.

My sense is that McCain did better than expected in this interchang­e, and that Obama needs to improve. And I think Obama will improve.

Also, of course, the audience was predispose­d in McCain's favor, and Obama showed guts in being ready to fight it out in front of this crowd.
07:25 PM on 08/21/2008
McCain did better because he gave his pat answers to the questions -- if someone had asked him why insurance pays for viagra and not birth control his response wouldn't have been quite so rapid! You are correct - I'm hoping Obama doesn't learn to answer in sound bytes instead of thinking about the questions --at this point it's what sets him apart. Of course he could do like McCain and start quoting from Wikepedia!
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carlgt1
11:53 AM on 08/20/2008
stupid Americans; as if McCain forcely reiteratin­g his stump speech (instead of thinking), amounts to "winning the debate"
11:11 AM on 08/20/2008
who lied warren or mccain most likey both. How can Warren say with a straight face that mccain was in a cone of silence when he knew he wasn't even in the bldg.

typical of christain fudemental­ist who think they have a lock on the truth based on the bible. Well why don't they tell the truth about mccain when he came out on stage the folks back stage new he wasn't there for a half hour and then when he arrived he was not in a "cone of slience" 'GET SMART' Obama the repuglican­s will take every advantage no matter how slimy.

dont trust right wing setups
06:34 PM on 08/20/2008
i agree