Obama To McCain: Dignify Your Campaign

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First Posted: 08-19-08 09:33 AM   |   Updated: 09-19-08 05:12 AM

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There was a thread of stern if not defensive outrage in Barack Obama's address at the Veterans of Foreign Wars on Tuesday. The Illinois Democrat did not raise his voice, nor did his facial expression reflect a sense of anger. But he was pointed in his criticism and direct in lambasting the type of campaign his Republican opponent, John McCain, is running.

"Yesterday, Senator McCain came before you," said Obama. "He is a man who has served this nation honorably, and he correctly stated that one of the chief criteria for the American people in this election is going to be who can exercise the best judgment as Commander in Chief. But instead of just offering policy answers, he turned to a typical laundry list of political attacks. He said that I have changed my position on Iraq when I have not. He said that I am for a path of "retreat and failure." And he declared, "Behind all of these claims and positions by Senator Obama lies the ambition to be president" -- suggesting, as he has so many times, that I put personal ambition before my country. That is John McCain's prerogative. He can run that kind of campaign, and -- frankly -- that's how political campaigns have been run in recent years. But I believe the American people are better than that. I believe that this defining moment demands something more of us."

It is a vintage Obama line: deploring the tactics of his opponent as a method of rising above the fray. And, indeed, later in the address -- which was focused on redefining proper judgment on Iraq (why, Obama asked, should we give McCain a pass on his false predictions leading up to the invasion?) -- the presumptive Democratic nominee again chastised his challenger for resorting to the politics of the past.

"One of the things that we have to change in this country is the idea that people can't disagree without challenging each other's character and patriotism," he said, to applause. "I have never suggested that Senator McCain picks his positions on national security based on politics or personal ambition. I have not suggested it because I believe that he genuinely wants to serve America's national interest. Now, it's time for him to acknowledge that I want to do the same. Let me be clear: I will let no one question my love of this country. I love America, so do you, and so does John McCain."

It's curious to see how this method of campaigning, which was effective in the primary campaign, will play out in the general. Obama's substantive critiques of McCain's foreign policy -- like asking why the Arizona Republican nominee would "follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell" but not target him in Pakistan without that country's permission -- were equally if not more effective. Moreover, there is a growing list of Democratic observers who are pining for a more aggressive posture in which Obama is not just parlaying the McCain attack de jour, but dictating the campaign theme.

There was a thread of stern if not defensive outrage in Barack Obama's address at the Veterans of Foreign Wars on Tuesday. The Illinois Democrat did not raise his voice, nor did his facial expression ...
There was a thread of stern if not defensive outrage in Barack Obama's address at the Veterans of Foreign Wars on Tuesday. The Illinois Democrat did not raise his voice, nor did his facial expression ...
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He's not going to let us question him? Why that's unAmerican in itself!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 08/20/2008
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Of course, you miss the actual point. He said he won't question McCain's patriotism, and he won't stand by and let others, including McCain, question his.
This tactic of claiming that Obama wants to lose the war on terror so he can win the election, is one of the most despicaple things McCain has said - it amouts to accusing a sitting US Senator of treason.
Taking our eye off the ball in Afghanistan, allowing the actual enemy to strentgthen himself, while we squandering our national treasure and international credibility by shifting the focus to Iraq, acheiving almost nothing in Iraq whild at the same time losing ground in the real war against terrorism - that's what Bush and McCain did, and that is what Obama is opposing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 08/20/2008
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 23 fans permalink

WTF? Pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 08/20/2008
- bugsbonzai I'm a Fan of bugsbonzai 33 fans permalink

Please, please, please Obama...ST­OP repeating laundry lists of what your opponents accuse you of. It only reinforces those ideas in some. Learn to address the lies of your political adversaries without giving them the pleasure of your laundry list rehash of their nastiness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 08/20/2008
- Busterdawg I'm a Fan of Busterdawg 6 fans permalink

What do you expect from a substance lacking, inexperienced neophyte?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 08/20/2008
- antaeus I'm a Fan of antaeus 85 fans permalink
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You are right! When I saw his performance at the American Legion ("I love this country," etc.) I wanted to vomit. Such utterances absolutely reinforce the very questions they are meant to address. What's next? A ride in a tank?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 08/20/2008
- Meggie I'm a Fan of Meggie 85 fans permalink
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Well, McCain may tell his campaign to straighten up, but by now we've all heard members of his campaign tell everyone that McCain does not speak for the campaign and apparently is not in control of his campaign. Obama will have to find someone besides the puppet to talk to about this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 08/20/2008

I'm glad Obama can remain on the high road in the general.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 08/20/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Yes, for you and me...this is great. But what about all the stupid people?
Y'know, the ones that still think that 9/11 and Iraq are connected,
the ones that think that Obama is still a Muslim,
the ones who will fall for McCain because he is lumping 9/11, Iraq, terrorism, and personal
prison camp stories all in ONE.
Worry about the high roads LATER!
Time to FIGHT!....­.Don't worry Obama, we'll still love you in the morning!
But the GENERAL election has to cater to the stupid people!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 08/20/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Ya, it's great for people like you and me, but what about all the "not-so-informed?".
Y'know the ones who still think that 9/11 and Iraq are still connected.
The ones who are falling for McCains prison camp stories because he ties it
altogether with Iraq, evil, terrorism , 9/11 ALL IN ONE ball.
The ones who still believe that Obama is a Muslim.

Worry about high roads later! Time to get a little dirty! We'll still love him after...
But the general election has to cater to the "not-so-informed".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 08/20/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

The high road? Considering the first 6 articles under Recent Postings on factcheck.org call into question the truthfulness of O's ads and attacks on McC, I wouldn't be throwing around the high road bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 08/20/2008

But did you read the whole thing on factcheck.org. They simply didn't like the fact that they were McCain's statements 6 months ago and he has modified his position since. McCain attacks Obama all the time with outright lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 08/20/2008

In looking at the these articles that you reference, so far what I see is that FactCheck.org seems to be playing favorates.

In the article titled The Truth About Tire Pressure, the site says this is a wash but for the most part, they say that Obama is RIGHT. Did you not read the whole article or are you just checking what the titles are? In the case of this article, there was also missing information that tells what lead up to Obama's tire comment in the first place which I have now written to FactCheck.org about because it explains why he made the comment in the first place.

As for the article titled Waste Worries. This article's opening is biased. They post the entire comment by McCain that is supposed to dispell Obama's ad but it does just the opposite and even the interviewer agrees with Obama's interpretation of what McCain said and meant.

Nice try but next time, make sure you actually read these things before you attempt to smear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 AM on 08/20/2008
- BethStuart I'm a Fan of BethStuart 13 fans permalink

McCain's attacks on Obama's patriotism sounds very much like Joe McCarthy doing the same for anyone who disagreed with him. McCarthy would accuse them of serving the "communist agenda." McCarthy was eventually censured by his fellow Senators. McCain has already been rebuked (although not censured) by his fellow senators for his part in the Keating Five scandal. McCain may yet get censured for his McCarthy-like tactics in this campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 08/20/2008

stop 'deploring the tactics of your opponent' and start acting like them - the republican smear strategy is a winning one- like it or not. if obama wants to win, he better start playing the game.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 08/20/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 45 fans permalink
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you are part of the problem instead of demanding Obama sink to their level why don't you and those who think like you demand McCain first keep to his word and run his campaign with integrity.­and second rise to a new level

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 08/20/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Obama has already won the smart people over.
Now for the General, he has to get a little dirty and lower himself
to appeal to the stupid people.
It's all about "perception" now...not reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 08/20/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Obama should shout: Let's stop the stories, surges, justifications and explanations!
War will no longer set the agenda for Americans!
My friends...­.OUR time has come!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 08/19/2008
- aubrey8 I'm a Fan of aubrey8 5 fans permalink

Maybe Obama could try saying dignify your campaign pretty please Mr. McCain. Obama is looking more like Kerry every day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 08/19/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 45 fans permalink
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maybe you should stop criticising Obama for trying to run a respectable campaign and demand the same of McCain. just because it worked in the past we should be smarter. kerry wasn't the problem. it was those who bought into the swiftboat until it was too late. and look at the price we have paid. stop criticizing Obama"s refusal too sink to their level. and take a good hard look at where their level has gotten us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 AM on 08/20/2008
- MoeJava I'm a Fan of MoeJava 34 fans permalink
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This election is rapidly defining the division between the new and old guards.
The old guard doesnt believe they have any room for improvement, and are terrified of being left out in the progress of this nation; maybe more importantly to them, they ensure their future wealth on the hard work and industry of those who actually do the work. They are continuing to extract commission on people's misery and misfortunes.
The new guard wants very much to right the wrongs of the past. Try new ideas, develop new green technologies, an ensure that future generations of Americans have peace, economic, healthcare and educational opportunities that the Republican party wants to drown in the same bathtub as government itself.
Imagine that - when St Regan started this neo-conservative landslide and the beginnings of the destruction of the Middle Class, McCain has seen to it, in his 26 years in office, that he continues Ronnie's foul legacy. Definitely old guard.

Meet Obama - new guard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 08/19/2008
- DHC I'm a Fan of DHC 4 fans permalink

You are spot on about the changing of the Guard. I've been writing on my blog for over a year about the next generation taking power. My only nightmare, Moe Java, is what if the American people, as a block, don't get it yet? We keep waiting? How much longer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 08/19/2008
- MysticInd I'm a Fan of MysticInd 9 fans permalink
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Never fear, It is changing; How and what and by whom is another matter.
With inflation finally showing up in the mix, I do think the people will get it.
We gotta have faith it will happen. Make sure you speak up about it where ever you can without making a fuss. Just one statement about this is what rethugs have done...end of statement.­.. do you want more? etc. Keep it simple. And they will figure it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 08/19/2008
- Freakpower I'm a Fan of Freakpower 20 fans permalink
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Before Reagan, there were less than 100 registered lobbyists in Washington, Now more than 40,000!

America has been sold out from under the people- we are useless except as slave labor, and for collecting taxes..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 08/20/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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...and they keep saying that Reagan was good for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 08/20/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Last night on MSNBC with Keith, I learned that McCain 5 years ago told us the war
in Iraq was pretty much over...he even went so far as referring to the "Mission Accomplished"
banner as a reason we should know that its over....Ho­w come Keith shows so much passion
and will Obama throw this back in McCon's face?
John McCain is now using his own personal prisoner story as ANOTHER reason to fight in Iraq!
He has lumped 9/11-terro­rists-Iraq­-and personal prison camp story ALL IN ONE!

And my friends...­All of America's problems will be solved either through Iraq or another
personal military story.

I say: No more stories, surges or justifications!
War will no longer set the agenda for Americans!
It's OVER!
This is OUR time now!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 08/19/2008
- bandillero I'm a Fan of bandillero 6 fans permalink
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The research gems that Keith drops every night cannot be compared to anything. Digging up information, videos, gotchas, etc. But what does Obama and his gang do with this info? Nothing. Absolutely Nothing.

My friends, Obama's campaign is about to jump the shark. On Warren's show on Saturday, Obama was hemming and hawing and stuttering and contorting and uhm'ing and ehm'ing so much I thought I was listening to Dubya. Today with the VFW, he was flat, very flat. Then using a 1000 words to complete a defence/attack.

BORING! BORING!. I will tune off very soon - I don't want to be heartbroken like in 2000 or 2004. But I don't have buyer's remorse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 08/20/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 45 fans permalink
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that's the media's job not Obama's. He should as well as Mccain be concentrating on issues not gotcha"s.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 08/20/2008
- Mitchell4A I'm a Fan of Mitchell4A 8 fans permalink

Well, this assumes that McCain is actually human, which BSG fans might question.

"The Twelfth Cylon Revealed"
http://msa4.wordpress.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 08/19/2008
- ShamusNYC I'm a Fan of ShamusNYC 12 fans permalink

Ok, B-O. You gave the guy fair warning. Now, strip the bark off of him. He does not have the judgement to be POTUS.

The biggest problem is not finding the messages - it's paring them down, because there's so, so much. But you've got staff, money (including some of mine), and a lot of talented volunteers.

Don't fall into the same trap as Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry. Kerry will fight for you - but even he can do more.

Heck, if you really don't want to fight, then you have to pick Hil as VP - she's the toughest one we've got and will demolish them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 08/19/2008

I'm A Democrat That Will Not Help Hillary With Her Debt , As Long As She Aligns Herself With ( Useless ) Obama , And His Campaign .
She May Not get My Vote In 2012 Because Of This bad Judgement .

Democrat For John McCain President 2008 / Maybe 2012

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 08/19/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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The only bad judgment I see is yours.
You're no Democrat if you would help a Republican with eyes on overturning Roe, blocking equal pay for women, and lying to the American public on oil drilling (Among others).

You're and impudent child voting your heart and not your head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 08/19/2008
- grata2ude I'm a Fan of grata2ude 61 fans permalink

Then just change your party. This crap that a democrat would vote for another republican especially one that is tied so closely to Bush Cheney and Rove is either one a bold faced lie. Or someone who doesn't really care about this country. Or perhaps both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 08/19/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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It's called, dignity.
Something McCain, and Republicans in general, are sorely lacking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 08/19/2008
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We've all heard the cliché "know when to pick your battles." I cannot think of a worse venue for Obama to whine about how McCain is treating him in front of Veterans--where whining about your circumstances will gain little sympathy let alone empathy.

If Obama wants to be perceived as a leader, and a leader with good judgment, he's gained little traction over the past week. This is the man who stayed on vacation in Hawaii, frolicking in the ocean, licking ice cream, shopping for sunglasses while Georgia was imploding. He responded to a question about life of a fetus and human rights that the question was above his "pay grade." Who says such a thing? Finally, whining to Veteran’s that his opponent is insinuating he's not a patriot.

Get a grip. Where is the judgment Obama claims to have? Where's the leadership?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 08/19/2008
- laire I'm a Fan of laire 4 fans permalink

ColoradoIn­dependent,

Are you one of these low information voters who thinks the U.S. can do anything about Russia right now? I'm not a Georgian I'm American and we need to worry about getting out Iraq and getting Health care and dealing with our energy issues etc. Maybe these little speeches by Mccain who is not the president moves you but people who understand our plate is full and that there is nothing Obama or McCain can do about that right now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 08/19/2008
- grata2ude I'm a Fan of grata2ude 61 fans permalink

LOLOL. oh freaking brother. The party of family values is putting a man down for going to visit his disabled grandmother and taking a vacation with his wife and children.

And wasn't it presumptious of McCain to be calling out the Russians? He must assume he's already the President of the US. What an elistist? Ten houses and all.

Lies upon lies at a religious discussion. His canned answers prepepared and lying about being in a cone of silence? Plagerizing a story about his POW days and using it as his own. What kind of leadership is that? Teaching our young people you can lie your way to the top??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 08/19/2008
- Snowball I'm a Fan of Snowball 49 fans permalink
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Judging from your litany of far right extremist talking points, you're about as independent as that growth on the side of John McCain's face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 08/19/2008
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