Experts: Obama-Ayers Ad May Be Illegal

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First Posted: 08-21-08 07:12 PM   |   Updated: 09-21-08 05:12 AM

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A new ad raising Barack Obama's ties to 60s-era radical William Ayers may violate election law, according to campaign finance experts interviewed by the Huffington Post.

The spot, released by the America Issues Project (an incorporated 501c(4) committee, according to a report by Politico's Ben Smith), intersperses images of Obama and Ayers, and features a narrator asking, "Why would Barack Obama be friends with someone who bombed the Capitol and is proud of it? Do you know enough to elect Barack Obama?"

"This negative campaign ad is clearly express advocacy, and under a federal law passed in 2003, the Bi-Partisan Campaign Reform Act (known colloquially as McCain-Feingold), it cannot legally be paid for with corporate money, including those of a non-profit," said Laura MacCleery, deputy director of the democracy program at the Brennan Center for Justice. "The ad indisputably concerns an election, takes a position on the character and fitness for office of a candidate, and raises no legislative issue. Even this highly skeptical Supreme Court would turn up its noses at the foul odor emitted by this clear abuse of federal election law."

For its part, a Fox News representative told the Associated Press that the network had rejected the spot.

The zone of jurisprudence occupied by the ad is undoubtedly a complex one -- intersecting with both tax law as well as state regulations and federal election law. But the spot could certainly fall afoul of the "express advocacy" prohibition that flows from recent Supreme Court campaign finance decisions, including the recent FEC v. Wisconsin Right To Life case. At a minimum, the nature of the committee's funding -- whether it comes from corporations or individuals -- could be a matter for the FEC to probe.

MacCleery noted that in FEC v. WRTL, the Roberts-led Supreme Court wrote that an independent expenditure ad is "the functional equivalent of express advocacy" when it is "susceptible of no reasonable interpretation other than as an appeal to vote for or against a specific candidate."

Furthermore, in describing the types of ads that could avoid normal disclosure requirements, the court laid out several other standards for non-disclosure:

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"The ads focus on a legislative issue, take a position on the issue, exhort the public to adopt that position, and urge the public to contact public officials with respect to the matter. Second, their content lacks indicia of express advocacy. The ads do not mention an election, candidacy, political party, or challenger; and they do not take a position on a candidate's character, qualifications, or fitness for office."

The Ayers ad mentions Obama's name, uses the word "elect" (in the form of a question), and mentions not a single legislative issue, and quite obviously takes a position on his character and fitness for office. Thus, if an incorporated 501c(4) produced the ad and paid for its broadcast with corporate funds, it should be filing FEC disclosure reports.

For its part, the Obama campaign notes that a former McCain aide is now leading the group, and is suggesting an illegal coordination between an independent group and the Arizonan's campaign. But while the evidence for that claim is circumstantial (and refuted by McCain), the notion of whether the independent group's fundraising and activity are legal is another matter entirely. While the group might claim to be what's referred to as an MCFL-501c(4), which would not prevent their broadcasting the ad, it's not clear that the group could avoid disclosing its donor rolls, either.

The only problem, from Obama's point of view, is that the wheels of justice on FEC matters grind slowly. Former FEC lawyer Larry Noble agreed that while this ad would make "an excellent case" for any aggrieved party to bring, the FEC would likely be powerless to get to the bottom of the issue until after the election.

"Clearly there's a question of whether it's reportable as election communication," Noble said. "Beyond that, there's a question about how it's funded, if it's corporately funded. ... But the FEC doesn't have the ability to immediately go into court as a practical matter."

The America Issues Project did not immediately return phone calls or emails from multiple Huffington Post reporters regarding the nature of its 501c(4) status or its stance on FEC electioneering rules. Broadcast commercials that mention a federal candidate's name during certain time periods are considered electioneering. One of the time periods is 30 days before the party conventions, which encompasses the time this ad is running.

From the FEC's website:

Electioneering Communications

An electioneering communication is any broadcast, cable or satellite communication that fulfills each of the following conditions:

1. The communication refers to a clearly identified candidate for federal office;
2. The communication is publicly distributed shortly before an election for the office that candidate is seeking; and
3. The communication is targeted to the relevant electorate (U.S. House and Senate candidates only).

Clearly Identified Candidate

A communication refers to a clearly identified federal candidate if it contains the candidate's name, nickname or image, or makes any unambiguous reference to the person or their status as a candidate, such as "the Democratic candidate for Senate." 11 CFR 100.29(b)(2).

Publicly Distributed Shortly Before Election

Generally, a communication is publicly distributed if it is disseminated for a fee by a television station, radio station, cable television system or satellite system. 11 CFR 100.29(b)(3)(i). Electioneering communications are limited to paid programming. The station is not required to seek or receive payment for distribution of the communication to qualify. Therefore, public service announcements, infomercials and commercials are all included within the definition.

The electioneering communications rules apply only to communications that are transmitted within 60 days prior to a general election or 30 days prior to a primary election for the federal office sought by the candidate, including elections in which the candidate is unopposed. A "primary election" includes any caucus or convention of a political party which has the authority to nominate a candidate to federal office. 11 CFR 100.29(a)(2). This condition regarding the timing of the communication applies only to elections in which the candidate referred to is seeking office.

LATE UPDATE: In response to a detailed series of questions related to electioneering and FEC filing status, the American Issues Project issued a terse email reply to the Huffington Post.

"Yes sir. We filed with FEC," wrote spokesperson Christian Pinkston.

As of Thursday night, there was no filing for the group on the FEC's website (which can take some time to reflect newly received reports). Still unclear is the extent of the independent group's disclosure -- specifically, whether it will simply reveal the aggregate receipts and expenditures, or whether it will reveal individual donors for the $2.8 million ad buy.

UPDATED BELOW A new ad raising Barack Obama's ties to 60s-era radical William Ayers may violate election law, according to campaign finance experts interviewed by the Huffington Post. The spot, rel...
UPDATED BELOW A new ad raising Barack Obama's ties to 60s-era radical William Ayers may violate election law, according to campaign finance experts interviewed by the Huffington Post. The spot, rel...
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- JimboSlice I'm a Fan of JimboSlice 6 fans permalink

This article lies, or Fox News lies because I just saw this ad aired on Fox News, during a paid commercial break - not during coverage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 08/28/2008
- reshas1 I'm a Fan of reshas1 4 fans permalink

Democrats - Do as we say, not as we do!

Democrats - Change we can believe in (and if you don’t, you’re a liar/crimi­nal/racist­/sexist pig!)

Democrats - We’re all for free speech, as long as you agree with us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 08/26/2008

What? You must be on acid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 08/27/2008

It's all just a distractio­n... Either you're happy with the way things are and you want to continue down this path as a nation or you don't.

I hope Obama can beat the odds, but it doesnt look good on the ground. Problem is that there are a lot of closet racists, so all the GOP has to do is give them a meaningless excuse (it doesnt have to be true or even make sense). I will vote for Obama, but there is simply NO chance he will win this my state. I'm just glad we dont have many electoral votes.

Voters, you will get "the change you deserve."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 08/25/2008
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Yup. As an outsider looking in I must say I underestimated the underlying racism of the US. Seems I was wrong - they're not willing to elect a black president because he's ... y'know ... BLACK!

And you're right when you say they just need any excuse to vote for McCain. (Case in point: Hillary supporters who say they're Dems but will vote for McCain).

Shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 08/25/2008

WHY CAN'T THEY GO AFTER THIS SWIFTBOATER FOR LIBEL OR SLANDER? Ad is FULL of lies and misrepresentations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 08/24/2008

Name one lie or misrepresentation. One.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 PM on 08/24/2008

ok, one misinterpretation would be as follows:

the ad implies that when william ayers wishes he would've done more bombings when they quote him as saying "i wish i would've done more." In actualilty what ayers was talking about was the fact that his demonstrative bombings did nothing to help end the vietnam war. he wishes he would've done more to help bring the war to a close.

i would post more but you only asked for one....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 08/24/2008

How is this different from Moveon.org's "Alex" ad? You guys are hacks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 08/23/2008

Costras ring a bell? Operation Mongoose? Phoenix project [Vietnam]? Bay of pigs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 08/23/2008

FREE SPEECH...T­RUTH IS AN ABSOLUTE DEFENSE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 08/23/2008
- DCX2 I'm a Fan of DCX2 5 fans permalink

Did you ever notice how Republican attack ads always take things out of context? Maybe if the sheeple would realize that and start investigating the context in question, they would stop falling for this BS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 08/23/2008

What is out of context about being friends with an unrepententant domestic terrorist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 08/23/2008

haha, i like how you actually quote sean hannity directly, you tool. he's not a terrorist, in fact he went out of his way to make sure no one got hurt. extremist? yes. terrorist? sorry, he's not.

barack obama is only associated with ayers because he has done an amazing amount of work for education reform. what he has done since moving on from his less than admirable past was been quote beneficial. they taught togehter at the university of chicago and gave speeches tegether on education reform. nothing else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 08/24/2008

If Republicans didn't have double-standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 08/22/2008
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doh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 08/22/2008
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Funny. The law does not mention magazine, newspaper, billboard, internet advertisements, or viral emails. With the viral things that the Republicans are putting out over the internet, clearly the laws must be changed and there should be some independent truth board to handle the defamation, lies, and misinformation meant to disrupt the election in their favor. This kind of dispute in an election must be able to be addressed in a timely manner, and if defamatory, untrue information is conveyed to the public, and can be shown that it had a changing effect on the election, then the election must be disputed. As well, with the Diebold scandal mind, in order to protect the election process, if the hand count turns out to be different than the count of any programmable device, then the election must be disputed. And, Rush Limbaugh should be in jail for telling Republicans, whose candidate McCain had already been chosen, to switch from their allied party and, in deceit, vote for Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 08/22/2008
- KBAR I'm a Fan of KBAR 28 fans permalink
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there should be some independent truth board to handle the defamation, lies, and misinformation meant to disrupt the election in their favor.

Yep! That's it! On the Red China model. Right, Comrade?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 08/22/2008
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Ha! The difference would be in the details, exactly how a truth board would be put together, maybe the approval of congress. Isn't this the difference between a democracy and a totalitarian government? Isn't the judiciary some kind of truth board in charge of the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 08/22/2008
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To: KBAR, Hannity & Other GOP hatemongers ...

Not only is the ad illegal ... the ad is full of lies.

Ayres NEVER admitted to bombing the world centers.

Ayres NEVER said they didn't do enough

Making the ad a complete LIE.

Ayres left the Weather Underground years before the bombing of the capital.

Ayres was a protestor, like many, he was protesting Nixon's refusal to get our troops out of Vietnam's civil war. As were the 4 Kent State students Nixon's tin soldiers killed.

Now lets talk about McCain & his associates ....

* McCain & his Keating 5 buddies

* McCain Hagee & Parsley

* Sept. 11/2001 Hagee said, ""United States is to blame for 9/11!"

* 12/2007 Hagee said, "The United States must be in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God"s plan ? a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ!"

* 12/2006: Rod Parsley said, "ISREAL must be DEFEATED by a Russian-Arab military alliance, preceded by a U.S. invasion of Iran, in order to usher in Armageddon and the second coming of Jesus."

* 3/2008 McCain, standing with Hagge & Parsley said, "McCain saying Parsley & Hagee, "I am very honored today to have the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide?thank you for your leadership and your guidance. I am very grateful you all are here."

.... hmmm.... McCain wants to bomb Iran & Russia ... eerie...Mc­Cain/Hagee­/Parsley

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 08/22/2008

A foul odor eminates from desparate Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 08/22/2008

By today's Republican standards, George Washington would be held prisoner at Guantanamo Bay with none of the rights that he and the forefathers of this country put forth in the constitution.

Why isn't Ayers is prison for this if he's responsible for these crimes?

Why is corporate terrorism treated the same way? Enron killing people in California by turning off the electricity to their oxygen machines flies under the radar? McCain's staff is made up of these murderers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 08/22/2008

Ayers was prosecuted but then let go on a technicality. He did the bombings.

Ayers is married to Bernadine Dohrn who led the radical Weather Underground during the time they bombed Government buildings including a police station in San Francisco which killed an officer and blinded another.

US citizens bombing our Gov buildings and killing our people is 100% domestic terrorism.

Obama should never have been involved with this couple and not expect it to be a major problem in a presidential campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 08/26/2008
- deanfv I'm a Fan of deanfv 13 fans permalink

We need the Fairness Doctrine now... have to shut up those conservatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 08/22/2008

You obviously don't understand what the "Fairness Doctrine" is then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 08/22/2008
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Don't feed the sock puppets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 08/22/2008

Typical response from a Constitution hating socialist. The reason your talk show hosts can't make it in radio is because the have no rational thought and have no truth to their arguements. No one wants to purchase ad time on their shows. You don't see Rush, Hannity, etc... on a NATIONALLY FUNDED radio program like you do the left. Wake up you idiot before you someday will be saying "comrade" instead of being able to voice your opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 08/23/2008

Negative, we need to know who they are so they can be culled from the rest of the hurd. Metiforically speaking of course. Mein Gott! I sound like Goebbels, Pol Pott, Lieberman,Billo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 08/23/2008

Silly adds do not work. Let's just be direct..

Ok people did not like the AD, but Obama must answer it. Very simple, Was Obama a Marxist then , is he a Marxist now, was he never a Marxist?? Is he a Progressive? What does not mean to him? Yes or No. No more dancing between right and left. He should say yes and no and that's it. No more questions, then move on... Then people decide a fair choice when they vote and a fair difference, not any silly innuendo and lies in the meantime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 08/22/2008
- KBAR I'm a Fan of KBAR 28 fans permalink
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Through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his “poetry” and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just “Frank.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 08/22/2008
- SFkid I'm a Fan of SFkid 4 fans permalink

So what? This is America, you can be a communist, you can be a gay devil worshipper, whats your point? are you ignorant?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 08/22/2008
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Gosh -- let's see that would make him somewhere between the ages of 7-14?!?! Gimme a break. Here we go with the Hoover/McCarthy scary commie witch hunts. DID WE LEARN NOTHING FROM THE PAST OR ARE WE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT???. My father was one of the victims of the witch hunts. And was not a communist, I might ad. But he was involved in civil rights and making sure that African Americans who were qualified got into college. Hmmmm. Funny how anyone who is trying to change the status quo got labeled a commie. Now here we go, doing it again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 08/22/2008
- Sparty1 I'm a Fan of Sparty1 19 fans permalink

WTF were you doing when you were 7 - 14 yrs old? You always come up with the dumbest crap to post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 08/22/2008

McSame has admitted to numerous relations with KNOWN Communists from Vietnam. He even HUGS them in front of Cameras.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 08/22/2008
- Nagarjuna I'm a Fan of Nagarjuna 42 fans permalink
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Senator McCarthy! We missed you. How is the weather in Hell, Joe?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 08/25/2008

Are you a Mexican or an American? No more dancing around. You must be able to park yourself inside of or outside of any category I can name. There is nothing grey, shaded or complex in this world. No one can ever have standing in two categories at once, for instance, to be progressive in terms of environmental protection and conservative in regard to fiscal policy is impossible, right?

You ask: "What does it mean to him? Yes or No"

What does that even mean, yo?

Finally: will everyone besides mexicanamerican1948 who is interested in whether Obama was a Marxist at age 7 please raise your hand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 08/22/2008

The border moved not me, not my relatives, we are of this land. My family in Texas since 1820. Mexican by blood(mest­izo-Spanis­h blood, plus Jumano Texan Indian), American by nationality,now you know .

Yes we can be of both world with no apology. Educate yourself. That's why of all Hispanics, aka Chicanos , Mexican Americans are different. . On the northern border we do not have an equivalent, but the USA did not invent a war to steal one third of a neighboring country...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 08/22/2008
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McCain cooperated with the Communist Government of North Viet Nam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 08/22/2008
- mosh I'm a Fan of mosh 10 fans permalink
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Honestly, what do you care about? Do you care about any of this stuff?

if you do, well, then, hmmmm, I guess I will quit wasting my time blogging to you.

Obama falls into a trap even answering this nonsense.

So, enough said.

Although you are probably a citizen by now, 1948, I would think the integrity of the candidates matters to you. Why waste our breathe on ths?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 08/22/2008
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