US, Iraq close in on deal for pullout of US troops

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QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA and ROBERT BURNS | August 21, 2008 11:59 PM EST | AP

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A U.S. Army soldier, left, and Iraqi Army soldier, right, stand in front of shuttered shopfronts during a raid in west Baghdad, Iraq, Thursday, Aug. 21, 2008. Baghdad security forces have detained 45 wanted persons and 102 suspects during the past 24 hours in a series of operations in the capital, according to a statement by the Iraqi Council of Ministers. (AP Photo/Loay Hameed)

BAGHDAD — Iraq and the U.S. pushed close to a deal Thursday setting a course for American combat troops to pull out of major Iraqi cities by next June, with a broader withdrawal from the long and costly war by 2011.

Subject to final approval by the top Iraqi leadership, the exit date for U.S. troops would be December 2011, although the Americans insist on linking that target to additional security and political progress.

President Bush has long resisted a timetable for pulling out, even under heavy pressure from a nation distressed by American deaths and discouraged by the length of the war that began in 2003. But that has softened in recent weeks.

The timing has major political importance in both Iraq and the United States.

The two contenders to replace Bush as commander in chief, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, spar almost daily over the future course of the war.

Obama wants all U.S. combat forces out of Iraq within 16 months of his taking office, saying they are needed more urgently in Afghanistan. McCain says recent security improvements in Iraq show that decisions on the timing of further pullouts should be determined by circumstances on the ground rather than by prearranged timetables _ a position the White House has vigorously held until recently.

The administration has inched toward the Iraqi view that setting at least a target date for withdrawal would make it politically palatable for Iraq's government to accept a substantial U.S. troop presence beyond this year.

The rationale for the pullout is that Iraqi security forces will be ready to stand on their own, although it remains possible that some U.S. military training role would continue. In Iraq, provincial elections are supposed to be held later this year, followed by national balloting in 2009.

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In one key part of the draft agreement, private U.S. contractors would be subject to Iraqi law, unlike at present, but the American side held firm in its insistence that U.S. troops would remain subject exclusively to U.S. legal jurisdiction, officials said.

Immunity remains the main point of contention between the two sides in finalizing the agreement. The Iraqis are reluctant to allow U.S. military contractors to have free rein when outside U.S. bases and without any Iraqi legal authority over them, according to a senior U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe delicate negotiations.

There is an additional sense of urgency to complete a deal because the U.N. Security Council resolution that sets the legal basis for the U.S. troop presence in Iraq is due to expire at the end of this year.

Asked about withdrawal, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said Thursday in Baghdad, "We have agreed that some goals, some aspirational timetables for how that might unfold are well worth having in such an agreement." Her use of the term "aspirational" suggested that the timetables would be linked in some undisclosed way to the attainment of measurable progress in the security, political and perhaps economic fields.

Other U.S. officials said the deal includes agreement that by June 30, 2009, U.S. combat forces would be out of Iraq's cities, set up elsewhere in the country in what the military calls an overwatch role _ available to assist Iraqi security forces as needed, while continuing to train and advise Iraqi troops.

At a joint news conference, Rice and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said the two sides had accepted the draft agreement and would await a review by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and other top Iraqi leaders _ some of whom oppose some parts of the deal _ as well as the Iraqi parliament. The next step is consideration by al-Maliki and his executive council Friday.

Rice's visit was meant to push al-Maliki so he would take the draft agreement to Iraqis for approval, U.S. officials said.

In the Sadr City section of eastern Baghdad, more than 500 followers of the anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr held a rally Thursday evening to denounce the Rice visit and the proposed security arrangement. Marchers carried flags and al-Sadr's picture, chanting, "No to the agreement."

Saleh al-Mutlaq, leader of the second-largest Sunni faction in parliament, issued a statement saying the Americans should not depend on any agreement signed with the Shiite-dominated government. He called on the government to put the deal to a popular referendum rather than simply submit it to parliament.

U.S. officials in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity because the deal is not final, said Bush administration acceptance of the arrangements was not in doubt unless Iraqi leaders insisted on changes. The administration has pledged to inform Congress but not submit the agreement for formal approval.

In Baghdad, Rice met with Zebari, al-Maliki and other officials on a brief visit intended to push the Iraqis toward agreement.

Said Zebari: "This agreement determines the principal provisions, requirements to regulate the temporary presence and the time horizon, the mission, of U.S. forces."

Bush has stood firmly behind al-Maliki, and the U.S. resisted pressure last year from its Sunni Arab allies elsewhere in the Middle East to dump the Shiite prime minister in favor of a more secular leader.

But al-Maliki has apparently taken a tough stand in the negotiations to refurbish his nationalist credentials and avoid the label of "America's man" ahead of coming elections.

The Shiite political establishment is also anxious to run the country without U.S. constraints, believing it has the right as leaders of Iraq's largest community, which had been marginalized politically since the modern Iraqi state was established following the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after World War I.

Rice spoke optimistically of completing a deal but stressed that it still needed top-level Iraqi approval. She also said it was made possible by security improvements.

"I have to say, if I could just make the point, the reason we are where we are going, talking about this kind of agreement, is that the surge worked, Iraqi forces have demonstrated that they are strong and getting stronger," she said.

Zebari, asked about fears expressed by neighboring countries over such a pact, said in Arabic: "This decision (agreement) is a sovereign one and Iran and other neighboring countries have the right to ask for clarifications. ... There are clear articles (that) say that Iraq will not be used as a launching pad for any aggressive acts against neighboring countries and we already did clarify this."

A State Department transcript of Zebari's remarks said he added that Iran had been advised of that provision.

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Associated Press reporters Matthew Lee and Robert Reid contributed to this story from Baghdad.

BAGHDAD — Iraq and the U.S. pushed close to a deal Thursday setting a course for American combat troops to pull out of major Iraqi cities by next June, with a broader withdrawal from the long an...
BAGHDAD — Iraq and the U.S. pushed close to a deal Thursday setting a course for American combat troops to pull out of major Iraqi cities by next June, with a broader withdrawal from the long an...
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Is this why US, Britain and Europe are moving an Armada of War Ships into the Persian Gulf and it is not even on the news (except the business channel once)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 08/22/2008

' Asked about withdrawal, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said Thursday in Baghdad, "We have agreed that some goals, some aspirational timetables for how that might unfold are well worth having in such an agreement." Her use of the term "aspirational" suggested that the timetables would be linked in some undisclosed way to the attainment of measurable progress in the security, political and perhaps economic fields. '

Her use of the word "goals" said that. However, a minim of common sense or some cursory thought about the situation says that as well, so it's hardly worth mentioning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 08/21/2008
- provgrays I'm a Fan of provgrays 29 fans permalink

Soon to follow, another appearance by General "Betray Us" on Capitol Hill in six months. Then, he will say that all is going well and he will report back in another six months.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 08/21/2008
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**yawn**

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 08/21/2008
- provgrays I'm a Fan of provgrays 29 fans permalink

Couldn't you have just yawned for real instead of going to the trouble of typing the word, "yawn"?

Are you really that sarcastic and bored?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 08/22/2008
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A new report by a Simon Fraser University-based research team says terrorist violence around the world is on the decline.

Prepared by researchers with the Human Security Report Project (HSRP) at SFU’s School for International Studies, the Human Security Brief 2007, released today in New York, challenges the expert consensus that the threat of terrorism is increasing.

Researchers found:


Fatalities from terrorism have dropped by 40 per cent while al-Qaeda has faced a dramatic collapse in support throughout the Muslim world.
There has been an “extraordinary, but largely unnoticed, positive change” in the sub-Saharan African security landscape, with the number of conflicts being waged reduced by more than half between 1999 and 2006, and the combat toll dropping by 98 per cent.
A decline in the total number of armed conflicts and combat deaths around the world also continues.


http://www.sfu.ca/pamr/media_releases/media_releases_archive/media_release05210801.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 08/21/2008
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This must be because the world is free and democratic. Freedom abounds

There is no need for Freedom Fighters. Let's remove the 2nd Amendment of the US, it is no longer needed. No need to remove a benevolent and fair government. WORLD PEACE?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 08/22/2008
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John McCain wasn't worrying about time or tables when he was a POW for five and half years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 08/21/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 148 fans permalink

You can call it an exit date, but please do not call it a timetable. This administration is more at war with words than anything else and playing with semantics is what it does best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 08/21/2008
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It is easy when you can change the dictionary's and encyclopedias

I just never imagined human beings could be so in love with themselves and in love with money.

And so short sighted that they did not realized the Feed Lot they were creating for themselves and Children and Children's Children And you wonder why some call them IDIOT'S

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 08/22/2008
- Budokan I'm a Fan of Budokan 191 fans permalink
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When can we put this criminal in jail for treason?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 08/21/2008
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The RichWing forgave them for their sins and the oWN the courts, SO NEVER

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 08/22/2008
- Jared137 I'm a Fan of Jared137 3 fans permalink

We're withdrawing from Iraq...cuz we're goin' into Georgia! Whooo hooo!

(Hey George W....if you're reading this post you might want to get those troops into Atlanta right quick...the Russians are coming...heh heh).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 08/21/2008
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No, I just heard we are moving ships into the Gulf of Iran

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 08/22/2008
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I sure wish HuffPo would use cartoon pics of "Smoo"!! It drives my monitor crazy!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 08/21/2008
- cardineau I'm a Fan of cardineau 36 fans permalink
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The US is not agreeing to get out of Iraq ... They are agreeing to remove US forces from the Cities. The US forces would remain on the many US built bases in Iraq so that the US can still try to brow-beat neighboring countries with military saber rattling. This is just so much smoke and mirrors to placate the US public.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 08/21/2008
- batmanindy I'm a Fan of batmanindy 9 fans permalink

Buck Fush

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 08/21/2008

Absolutely! Who would have thought that Bush would surrender in Iraq before the end of his term???!! What a loser!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 PM on 08/21/2008
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please define victory

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 08/21/2008
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By setting a timetable for withdrawl, the white house is now "cutting and running" - or so they called anyone who previously espoused getting out of Iraq.
NOW -what do we consider "victory" ? NOW can we start authorizing money ONLY for the safe and responsible departure from Iraq - or are they still gearing up for a fight against a) iran b) russia
c) both

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 08/21/2008
- foxfan I'm a Fan of foxfan 18 fans permalink

Hey! It's not a timetable. It's a time horizon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 08/21/2008

duz bosch practice lookin stoopid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 08/21/2008

Probably not...you'll have to exercise alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 08/21/2008

Looks like Condi was a little off message; time tables bad, time horizons good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 08/21/2008
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This is another crock of goo. The emphasis is placed on US troops leaving, with some mention of restrictions for contractors and no-restrictions on US troops while they are still there. That in itself is no different than what Russian troops are doing in Georgia. And, what are the other topics included in "this deal"? I would very much like to know just what it contains and who benefits, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 08/21/2008
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