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PAUL ALEXANDER | September 3, 2008 11:47 PM EST | AP

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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — American forces launched a raid inside Pakistan Wednesday, a senior U.S. military official said, in the first known U.S. ground assault in Pakistan against a suspected Taliban haven. The government condemned the attack, saying it killed at least 15 people.

The American official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of cross border operations, told The Associated Press that the raid occurred on Pakistani soil about one mile from the Afghan border. The official didn't provide any other details.

Pakistan's Foreign Ministry protested saying U.S.-led troops flew in from Afghanistan for the attack on a village in the country's wild tribal belt. A Pakistan army spokesman warned that the apparent escalation from recent foreign missile strikes on militant targets along the Afghan border would further anger Pakistanis and undercut cooperation in the war against terrorist groups.

The boldness of the thrust fed speculation about the intended target. But it was unclear whether any extremist leader was killed or captured in the operation, which occurred in one of the militant strongholds dotting a frontier region considered a likely hiding place for Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida's No. 2 leader, Ayman al-Zawahri.

U.S. military and civilian officials declined to respond directly to Pakistan's complaints. But one official, a South Asia expert who agreed to discuss the situation only if not quoted by name, suggested the target of any raid like that reported Wednesday would have to be extremely important to risk an almost assured "big backlash" from Pakistan.

"You have to consider that something like this will be a more-or-less once-off opportunity for which we will have to pay a price in terms of Pakistani cooperation," the official said.

Suspected U.S. missile attacks killed at least two al-Qaida commanders this year in the same region, drawing protests from Pakistan's government that its sovereignty was under attack. U.S. officials did not acknowledge any involvement in those attacks.

But American commanders have been complaining publicly that Pakistan puts too little pressure on militant groups that are blamed for mounting violence in Afghanistan, stirring speculation that U.S. forces might lash out across the frontier.

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Circumstances surrounding Wednesday's raid weren't clear, but U.S. rules of engagement allow American troops to chase militants across the border into Pakistan's lawless tribal region when they are attacked. They may only go about six miles on the ground, under normal circumstances. U.S. rules allow aircraft to go 10 miles into Pakistan air space.

The raid comes at a particularly sensitive time for the Pakistan government which is trying to overcome political divisions and choose a new president on the one hand, while the army is battling the militants on the other.

In other signs of Pakistan's precarious stability three days before legislators elect a successor to Pervez Musharraf as president, snipers shot at the prime minister's limousine near Islamabad and government troops killed two dozen militants in another area of the restive northwest.

Pakistani officials said they were lodging strong protests with the U.S. government and its military representative in Islamabad about Wednesday's raid in the South Waziristan area, a notorious hot bed of militant activity.

The Foreign Ministry called the strike "a gross violation of Pakistan's territory," saying it could "undermine the very basis of cooperation and may fuel the fire of hatred and violence that we are trying to extinguish."

Prior to the U.S. military confirming the U.S. raid, Pakistan government and military officials had insisted that either the NATO force or the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan _ both commanded by American generals _ were responsible. A spokesman for NATO troops in Afghanistan denied any involvement.

The army's spokesman, Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, said the attack was the first incursion onto Pakistani soil by troops from the foreign forces that ousted Afghanistan's hard-line Taliban regime after the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S.

He said the attack would undermine Pakistan's efforts to isolate Islamic extremists and could threaten NATO's major supply lines, which snake from Pakistan's Indian Ocean port of Karachi through the tribal region into Afghanistan.

"We cannot afford a huge uprising at the level of tribe," Abbas said. "That would be completely counterproductive and doesn't help the cause of fighting terrorism in the area."

The Pakistani anger threatens to upset efforts by American commanders to draw Pakistan's military into the U.S. strategy of dealing harshly with the militants.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, met last week with Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, the Pakistani army chief. Mullen said he came away encouraged that Pakistanis were becoming more focused on the problem of militants using the country as a safe haven.

However, Abbas, the army spokesman, said Wednesday that cross-border commando operations were not discussed and he reiterated Pakistan's position that its forces should be exclusively responsible for operations on its territory.

Pakistani officials say the U.S. and NATO should share intelligence and allow Pakistani troops to execute any raids needed inside Pakistan. However, Washington has accused rogue elements in Pakistan's main intelligence service of leaking sensitive information to militants.

American officials say destroying militant sanctuaries in Pakistani tribal regions is key to defeating Taliban-led militants in Afghanistan whose insurgency has strengthened every year since the fundamentalist militia was ousted for harboring bin Laden.

But there has been debate in Washington over how far the U.S. can go on its own.

Citing witness and intelligence reports, Abbas said troops flew in on at least one big CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, blasted their way into several houses and gunned down men they found there.

He said there was no evidence that any of those killed were insurgents or that the raiders abducted any militant leader, but he acknowledged Pakistan's military had no firsthand account.

There were differing reports on how many people were killed. The provincial governor claimed 20 civilians, including women and children, died. Army and intelligence officials, as well as residents, said 15 people were killed.

Habib Khan Wazir, an area resident, said he heard helicopters, then an exchange of gunfire.

"Later, I saw 15 bodies inside and outside two homes. They had been shot in the head," Wazir said by phone. He claimed all the dead were civilians.

Near Islamabad, meanwhile, snipers fired at a motorcade near the capital as it headed to the airport to pick up the prime minister, hitting the window of his car at least twice, officials said. Neither Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani nor his staff were in the vehicles.

Muslim Khan, a spokesman for the banned militant organization Tahrik-e-Taliban, claimed responsibility and pledged more attacks in retaliation for army operations in tribal areas and the Swat Valley along the border with Afghanistan.

In Washington, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice declined to comment on the claimed cross-border raid, but she said the U.S. would continue to work with Gilani's government.

"I am relieved, of course, that the incident aimed at the Pakistani prime minister did not succeed," Rice said.

"We're going to be in continued contact with the Pakistanis as we both try to help them to build a strong economic foundation, to build a strong democratic foundation and to fight the terrorists who are a threat not just to the United States and to Afghanistan but to Pakistan as well."

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Associated Press writers Pamela Hess, Pauline Jelinek and Matthew Lee in Washington, Ishtiaq Mahsud in Dera Ismail Khan, Munir Ahmad and Stephen Graham in Islamabad and Fisnik Abrashi in Kabul contributed to this report.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — American forces launched a raid inside Pakistan Wednesday, a senior U.S. military official said, in the first known U.S. ground assault in Pakistan against a suspected Tali...
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PREPARING THE BATTLE FIELD!

There have been rumors to the effect that the mission creep policy of hot pursuit has been in effect for an undetermined period of time both in Pakistan and Iran, occurring along the Iranian / Iraqi Boarder, a clear violation of International Law. And, now we know ($400M) was spent to Prepare the Battlefield.

“Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. United States Special Operations Forces have been conducting cross-border operations from southern Iraq, with Presidential authorization, since last year. These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of "high-value targets" in the President's war on terror, who may be captured or killed. But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which involve the Central Intelligence Agency and the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), have now been significantly expanded, according to the current and former officials. Many of these activities are not specified in the new Finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature.” (Preparing the Battlefield”, Seymore Hersh, The New Yorker)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 09/09/2008

JSOC (86%) WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILL RATE! (PART TWO)

On Monday (8th) of September, At least (25) Pakistani’s and (3) foreigners were killed, and (20) more wounded mostly women and children by two drones firing (3) missiles upon Dandi Darpakheil, a village in the North Waziristan tribal region near the Afghan border, upon a Pakistani village religious madrassa (school) founded by Jalaluddin Haqqani, a well-known Taliban Afghan leader and veteran of the Afghan war against the Soviet invasion in the 1970s and 1980s, and as defense minister during the US-led invasion in 2001, was the apparent target. But, he and his son Sirajuddin were in Afghanistan.

The (JSOC) has with (50) women and children killed and (7) Terrorist, established an impressive (86%) kill rate of women and children, and with (20) women and children wounded to (5) Terrorist wounded, a wound rate of (80%) of women and children. And these are Pakistani.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 09/09/2008

JSOC (86%) WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILL RATE! (PART ONE)

On Wednesday (3rd) September, the world once more became shocked and appalled that troops of the (US/MIC) United States Military Industrial Complex, assisted by Blackwater mercenaries and (IDF) Israeli Defense Force support personnel, , the (CIA) Central Intelligence Agency / Mossad and the (JSOC) Joint Special Operations Command, by order of General David “Betray Us” Petraeus, with the full knowledge of the United States Imperial President.­, engaged in the mission creep, incursion mission, into the sovereignty of yet another nation, Pakistan. By a pre-dawn ground assault on the village of Angor Adda, located in South Waristan on the Afghanistan / Pakistan boarder, (20) people, including women and children, were killed, Monday began the first of four cross-border strike in the rugged tribal region by the (US/MIC) in a week.

On Thursday (4th) September a day later in North Waziristan (4) Taliban fighters were killed and (5) wounded in a drone launched missile attack.

On Friday (5th) September Intelligence officials and witnesses said five people were killed in another drone launched missile attack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 09/09/2008

I want to see news pundits make this argument for the all the Obama-bashers out there today. Even Hillary went after Barack when he said he would "surgically" meaning "with precision" attack Pakistan if necessary. And, as I recall, McCain, Romney, Clinton, even Russert and Stephanopolous challenged this; openly mocked Barack, and now what has happended -- Bush has taken another position of Barack's and made it his own!

Unbelievable. I was serious discussion of this today!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 09/04/2008

The raid comes at a particularly sensitive time for the Pakistan government which is trying to overcome political divisions and choose a new president"

Great Strategy Bush!!!
Make an October surprise inside of Pakistan that will push them to pick a more anti-US leader.
Killing civilians but no top leaders is also a good plan

Could they be any worse at fighting terrorism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 09/04/2008
- bobh I'm a Fan of bobh 10 fans permalink

This unprecedented action seems to me to indicate a serious push to finally nail bin Laden or Al Zawahiri.
The targets would have to have been very high value indeed.
Presumably it is being done now to try to help McCain, bin Laden having outlived his political usefulness to Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 09/04/2008
- granny104 I'm a Fan of granny104 5 fans permalink

Why do you think Cheney is so busy overseas? If they can't roll out OBL as the October Surprise, watch for another attack on the U.S.A or one they will stop (just in time) because only the the Republicans can "protect us all". The Republican Convention nonsense is great cover for whatever Cheney is up to. The media need to keep an eye on him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 09/04/2008

"American officials say destroying militant sanctuaries in Pakistani tribal regions is key to defeating Taliban-led militants in Afghanistan whose insurgency has strengthened every year since the fundamentalist militia was ousted for harboring bin Laden."

Oh really? ... The insurgency has strengthened after FIVE YEARS of Bush's APPEASEMENT of the Pakistani "Democratic" Government? Who'd a thought!

This couldn't possibly have happened BECAUSE Bush decided SADDAM to be more "Wanted Dead Or Alive" than OSAMA?

But have no fear ... McCain is here ... to SUDDENLY "follow OSAMA BIN LADEN to the gates of hell".

Yes ... he and Condi are "going to be in continued contact with the Pakistanis as we both try to help them to build a strong economic foundation, to build a strong democratic foundation and to fight the terrorists who are a threat not just to the United States and to Afghanistan but to Pakistan as well."

Well THERE'S a tall order!

And perhaps AFTER they've fought the terrorists, both McCain & Condi will try to help AMERICA build a strong economic & democratic foundation? ... in 100 years? ...

there's never a wish
better than this
when you've only got a hundred years
to live

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 09/04/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

Ou troops have to stop blasting into homes and killing everyone they find inside. It is murder. We do not always know the quality of the intelligence we are acting on. This killing of what may be civilians and woman and children must stop. How will our troops be able to live with the killing of entire families when they return home? If this is what modern warfare has become, we should remain isolationist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 09/04/2008
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I call this the act of terrorism ...How can US attach its allies ...We need to wake up and save our country from people like BUSH CLINTON And all who are r puppets of the AIPAC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 09/04/2008
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Let's see now. Why do they hate us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 09/04/2008
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 78 fans permalink
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This country is in what Dr. Charles Tart calls a "consensus trance". Hypnotized America believes Osama bin Laden masterminded 9/11. Where is the evidence? The FBI has none.

In the first place, going into Afghanistan with the CIA was stupid beyond belief. Finding the hijackers is a police operation better handled by INTERPOL and the FBI (the CIA and the FBI are in a terrible feud).

Incidentally, the CIA is an incompetent organization with too many layers of bureaucracy. Eighty-five percent to ninety percept of the CIA's employees of work inside the U.S. in 24 unmarked offices. It never had agents in Afghanistan or Pakistan. To be sure, if the CIA did have agents in situ--then they might have been able to determine if Osama was the mastermind of 9/11 and may have even stopped the operation. But keep in mind, the CIA didn't even know that the Soviet Union was going to collapse. What a joke!

Eventually we are going to have to pull out of both Afghanistan and Iraq and shut down the bulk of our overseas bases. Let's face it, the bases are being used to protect big non-tax paying American corporations. Wake up people-- you are in a trance. Don't worry about the 9/11 hijackings - your country has been hijacked. It is not We the People anymore but We the Corporations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 09/04/2008
- thirteen13 I'm a Fan of thirteen13 3 fans permalink

A Palin/McCain administration (Republican) will continue to put all the eggs in the Iraq basket because that is where the oil is. In other words "here we go again". Oil, oil, oil, oil, oil, oil, oil.

Oil is the nucleus of the Republican Empire, not nuclear weapons. We nuked before and we will nuke again and Pakistan understands that.

Our Nation invaded a country (Iraq) without provocation. It's nice to see that Palin/McCain will continue the tough talk like we are invincible. After all, our enemy will never attack Alaska, Palins safe haven to escape to after the "maverick" duo invade other oil rich countries.

Putin to Palin/McCain; MAKE MY DAY! Russia suplies oil and natural gas to Europe and they also have untold numbers of WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

We won the war but lost the occupation. Our enemy (al Quada), will continue, slowly eating away at our ecomony through Iraq. Our missguided adventures are far from over thanks to Palin/McCain.

McCain will not serve four years because of health issues. Palin will become president and commander in chief. Thank you Hillary and Bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 09/04/2008
- Wilsonv I'm a Fan of Wilsonv 2 fans permalink

so i guess during McSame's talk tonight, they are going to do a special announcement that they killed OBL?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 09/04/2008
- Kynn I'm a Fan of Kynn 6 fans permalink

Timetable for Iraq - check

Afghanistan as priority 1 - check

Talk to Iran - check, kinda

Go after al qaeda in pakistan - check


So Bush has now at least attempted four of the main parts of Obama's middle-east policy to seemingly more success than any of Bush's attempts for years.

Judgement. McCain may have been around longer, but he's proven he has learned NOTHING from it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 09/04/2008
- Wilsonv I'm a Fan of Wilsonv 2 fans permalink

so i guess during McSame's talk tonight, they are going to do a special announcement that they got OBL?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 09/04/2008
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That's too complex for McPOW. He'll just say Obama stole the plan from him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 09/04/2008
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Doesn't matter. Most people know he's right and has better judgement and vision; what he
needs to do is blindfold 'Bubba', that's the only way to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 09/04/2008
- MrApricot I'm a Fan of MrApricot 2 fans permalink

Exactly. Obama was saying this a year ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 09/04/2008

Looks like Bush was waiting to pull Osama out of his ass as a War Trophy for McCain. Makes you wonder if he had intel on him for sometime and was just waiting for a good time to use it. CARL ROVE anyone? WAG THE DOG maybe?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 09/04/2008
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