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Obama Signal To Dem 'Cavalry' May Be Too Late


First Posted: 09- 9-08 12:43 PM   |   Updated: 10-10-08 05:12 AM

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The Obama campaign is changing its approach on the role Democratic outside groups play in the presidential campaign, softening its quiet but firm opposition to the funding of such efforts.

The news, which was reported by the Huffington Post several weeks ago and followed up by Marc Ambinder today, seems driven by the realization that the McCain campaign and the RNC may have too much financial support to take on alone.

But if Obama is, in fact, releasing "the cavalry" (as one campaign aide phrased it to Ambinder), it may already be too late.

Several individuals associated with these outside efforts say that, two months until the election, there is little time to mobilize an effective advertisement campaign. The money, it should be noted, is not an obstacle. Rather, the issue is one of will power.

"If you're asking whether billionaires could write checks, the answer is, of course, yes," said Tom Matzzie, a Democratic operative who now heads the group Accountable America. "If you're asking whether they have the guts to take the heat that comes with writing a check, the answer is, sadly, no for the most part."

Added Jon Soltz of VoteVets.org: "Its still tough for the donors. Many don't want disclosure... It's possible [that the big donors are out there, waiting to give]. I was in meeting last week about it. But there are concerns."

Within Democratic circles, there has been an open debate as to the impact and soundness of Obama's policy in regards to the outside groups. The campaign insisted that a centralized communication effort would be the most effective. But they have watched as Republican 527 and 501c4 groups have sprung to life, launching character attacks against the Illinois Democrat.

A Democratic media counterpunch along these lines seems unlikely at this point in time. As Matzzie noted, it is tough to start an ad campaign from scratch. But on-the-ground efforts, including voter mobilization and registration, could be bolstered with more cash.
Unions such as SEIU, AFSCME, and AFL-CIO, for instance, are likely to field more effective mobilization drives.

Even if these outside groups were suddenly flush with financial resources, they would be restricted in what they could accomplish. VoteVets, for example, is a 501c4 and, as such, is limited in the amount of "express advocacy" it can launch in the campaign's closing weeks.

"You cant just make a c4 and get them in the fight because we are real group," said Soltz. "Now we can run ads but it has to be issues advocacy, or I can't mention a candidate's name. That I can do, but it won't hit as hard."

The Obama campaign is changing its approach on the role Democratic outside groups play in the presidential campaign, softening its quiet but firm opposition to the funding of such efforts. The news,...
The Obama campaign is changing its approach on the role Democratic outside groups play in the presidential campaign, softening its quiet but firm opposition to the funding of such efforts. The news,...
 
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tonyinstpete
Retired university admin. still teaching
08:36 PM on 09/17/2008
Now that the economy is in obvious crisis, it is time to remind people that the Democrats are the partyh of the New Deal that passed the Glass/Steg­all Act that subjected banks to regulation­. It was McCain's buddy former Texas Senator Phil Gramm, who as chair of the Senate Banking Committee, pushed along with his wife Wendi (a lobbyist and member of the Board of Enron Corp before it fell) deregulati­on of banking that allowed this mortgage and investment mess to get started again. Many Americans may be dumbed down and are oblivious to the huge fall in our national reputation in the rest of the world during the Bush regime, but they are becoming aware of their individual and our national precarious economic position. Yes, it is about the economy stupid!!!

Be sure to go to: WWW.TWOVOT­ERS.COM for great pro-Obama video spots
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tonyinstpete
Retired university admin. still teaching
08:45 PM on 09/11/2008
Two independen­t small town businessme­n in California just spent their own money to produce beautiful profession­al short spots supporting Obama and exposing the falseness of McCain and Palin's claim to be for change. These spots are designed for young people and others who support Obama personally to send to their friends, colleagues­, neighbors etc. who are persuadabl­e in "viral" fashion.

Go to: WWW.TWOVOT­ERS.COM
05:52 PM on 09/10/2008
It's just an idea, but trim something like this from TalkingPoi­ntMemo down to a 60 second and a 30 second spot and you're good to go in 2 days with very little production cost.:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=9xbn_AXla­eY

Just saying'...­.
11:06 AM on 09/10/2008
It's not too late to unleash the Big 5's(527s, 501cs, etc.). It's just the wrong thing to do. The Big 5's are the funnel for the most pernicious use of Big Money and Special Interest in politics. They are feared as much as they are because of what they produce - attack ads. Political advertisin­g and particular­ly attack ads are the final common pathway for Big Money and Special Interest in American politics and the threat of their use or the promise of money to produce such ads are the major way in which Big Money and Special Interest gain access to, & influence over our elected officials. What we don't need to do is place more greenbacks on the fire that is burning up our Democracy. Nor do we need more ineffectiv­e legislatio­n that runs up against the wall of the first Amendment. The solution, my friends, is in our own hands - literally. Virtually all political ads are delivered via television or radio. We need only exercise our right not to listen! Whenever a political ad comes on, simply use your middle finger on that dreaded remote and flip them off. And keep flipping 'em off every time they come on. Ditto radio ads. Believe me the campaign ad managers will hear you loud and clear, particular­ly if this becomes a movement and we coordinate it to be done on a given day/week in the campaign. Are you listening MoveOn.org­, OpenSecret­s.org, RockTheVot­e.com?
10:39 AM on 09/10/2008
Political adds need to catch the audience’s attention. A lot of people pay attention to smear adds. Those are the people who are not very well informed about their candidates and will believe anything. Obama needs to use McCain’s own words and political platform and put them in adds in a truthful but catchy way. McCain says he is running on experience­. Why not create an add summing up the years of experience that Cheney, Bush, McCain, Rumsfeld have and say: McCain says he has years of experience but Barack Obama doesn’t. Look where 100 some years of total experience brought us. An unnecessar­y war, economic disaster, unemployme­nt, a terrible standing in the world. Obama’s judgment and vision is what this country needs. Change you can believe in. McCain has flip flopped during the past two years. Use his own words to question who he really is as a candidate without even using the expression flip flop but using his own words about different issues. McCain says he is an honorable man, yet he has Carl Rove as one of his advisors, the same person that smeared him during the 2004 election. McCain says country first. Well, if he thought so he would choose a different candidate for vice president. Someone with more qualified. That is not putting country first. McCain’s judgment can be questioned concerning the vice presidenti­al nominee. Last but not least, McCain is considered a hero but he does not treat veterans like a hero
10:17 AM on 09/10/2008
Though I think shutting down the 527s was the single biggest blunder in an otherwise strategica­lly brilliant campaign, I don't think it is too late. 527s can be up and running relatively fast; it didn't take long for the Swiftboate­r's 527 to be set up before they slimed Kerry out of existence. Obama's problem is that he while he's responding a lot faster than Kerry's campaign, he'll need the 527s to respond to the sunami of slime the republican­s are going to unleash between now and November 4th.
10:16 AM on 09/10/2008
We need to let the 527's rip on mccain's "WETSTART" on the USS Forrestal and how many men died.
His ill temper, his denigating of women-even his wife, his non-suppor­t of veterans, his trigger happy attitude about war, what eally happened at the Hanoi Hilton after the first 4 days- how fast he broke-what he demanded- that everyone was OFFERED early release if they made the propaganda tapes-- that he made 30 such tapes... ETC.

His 'running mates' position on stem cells, lies about the 'bridge'. keeping lobbyists money and US tax payers money, how long the 'return to taxpayers ' law has been on the books--ans­wer -since the 1980's,
10:09 AM on 09/10/2008
I don't think it's too late, especially if they come out with tidbits about "songbird McCain." Of course, they have something credible to back it up, because McCain is going to go balistic. I think it's why he so protective about the truth about his prisoner of war days...
10:04 AM on 09/10/2008
O is the one who shut those groups down. His choice. His consequenc­e.
02:43 PM on 09/10/2008
Wrong. This is AMERICA's consequenc­e. If Obama loses, he goes back to the Senate. If McCain gets elected, this country is doomed...b­ut not that you really care.
10:01 AM on 09/10/2008
Unfortunat­ely for us all, Hillary stayed in the race too long, took too much pre-conven­tion time and energy from the Democratic campaign and also gave McCain his speaking points against Obama.
01:31 PM on 09/10/2008
what a whinner, worse than hillary.
09:58 AM on 09/10/2008
To barelyawak­e I say, "Amen, amen, and a-feakin'-­men."
09:01 AM on 09/10/2008
Maybe it's better late than never. It's like a person having an arsenal and not using it. Why ? Especially when your opponent is fighting dirty. You must be using weapons more powerful than he has, not less. Move on had a very effective ad appealing to parents, why was it pulled?
09:00 AM on 09/10/2008
jesus christ. we're going to lose this damn election and it is going to be Obama's fault. Too bad Hillary didn't get the nomination­, she wouldn't put up with this crap from the Republican Thugs.
08:58 AM on 09/10/2008
All the people here upset and preaching to the converted need to stop whining about this campaign and DO SOMETHING TO HELP ELECT OBAMA. Everytime you get worried... DONATE.... Everytime you get worried... pick up the phone and make phone calls to sway new voters. Have you been canvassing today? Have you convinced members of your family to help the Obama cause? Have you convinced members of your church or neighborho­od why they should help you elect Obama because it personally helps you and your family? Have you protested a McCain rally or written a letter to your local newspaper? Have you asked everyone you meet if they are voting, and explained to them why their family specifical­ly should vote for Obama? Stop posting. Grab five people and DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE­... Start by posting a link to Obama's website as a tag to everything you say on the net, and ask people to donate.

Help your family and mine get healthcare

https://do­nate.barac­kobama.com
09:10 AM on 09/10/2008
MY DAUGHTER AND I HAVE PUT 5 DAYS OF WORK IN THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN I HOPE YOU ARE ALL DOING THE SAME
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KUjHwk
11:11 AM on 09/10/2008
I canvassed on Monday, and will be canvassing with the campaign Saturday and Sunday
08:44 AM on 09/10/2008
McCain wants nothing more than to release a 'shock & awe' wave of negative ads, articles, and speeches. Sad - that there are too many people in our country that can't see through this to look at his policy stances. They think they're at some sort of boxing event and are cheering on the one throwing the punches and spitting in the face of the other boxer.

McCain is preying on the IGNORANT in America. The sad thing is - There are a lot of IGNORANT in America. Too many. Looks like the 8 years of having Bush-Chene­y in the White House has rubbed off on the country..
08:53 AM on 09/10/2008
It definitely has, that is why Obama given the opportunit­y should hold the bull by the horns and attack McCain mercilessl­y to awake the American people from their drunken stupour. Obama and his tam alone are the ones responsibl­e for the jettisonin­g of McCain's plans and forme, they ought to be held responsibl­e to any trust that has been reposed in them by the people who got them where they are now. This is a sacred and a huge responsibi­lity that they will have to guard with their very beings and minds until "victory" is won for the free world. (If there is anything like that at all)
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rinpochet
Do unto others ...
12:19 PM on 09/10/2008
I believe the debates will do the job for Obama. Standing side by side will only amplify McCain's age and confusion. Let's hope he makes the usual gaffes.