McCain On 'Black Monday': Fundamentals Of Our Economy Are Still Strong

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First Posted: 09-15-08 10:19 AM   |   Updated: 10-16-08 05:12 AM

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John McCain may want to refine his economic message a bit more during this potentially disastrous week for the financial sector.

On the campaign trail in Jacksonville, Florida, the Senator declared this morning that "the fundamentals of our economy are strong," despite what he described as "tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall Street."

The line may seem like GOP boilerplate, save for the fact that this morning, the McCain campaign released a television ad that began: "Our economy is in crisis." Moreover, with financial and job markets in disarray, and with Lehman Brothers, the troubled investment bank, filing for bankruptcy, it may not be the wisest political message to tell voters that the fundamentals are a-okay.

"You know," said McCain, "there's been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall Street and it is -- people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think, still the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult time. And I promise you, we will never put America in this position again. We will clean up Wall Street. We will reform government."

Many conservatives and McCain supporters have argued, against the prevailing sentiment, that despite Wall Street's failings, the economy is actually on firm footing. Donald Luskin, who described himself as "an adviser to John McCain's campaign," made such an argument in Sunday's Washington Post. But despite modest growth and relatively low unemployment rates, many economists see dire signs in today's economic landscape. On Sunday, former fed chairman Alan Greenspan said the market was the worst he had ever witnessed and predicted another major bank would close soon. Meanwhile, inflation is rising, real wages are declining, and the problems in the housing market persist.

McCain acknowledged, to various degrees, these topics in his Monday morning speech.

"I promise you we will never put America in this position again," McCain said. "This is a failure. We've got take every action to build an environment of robust energy supplies, lower inflation, control health care costs, access to international markets, low taxes and reduce burden of government to allow people to move forward toward a future of prosperity."

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But his proclamation that the fundamentals of it all remained positive is surely music to Democratic ears.

UPDATE: Sure enough, Obama spokesman takes aim...

Today of all days, John McCain's stubborn insistence that the 'fundamentals of the economy are strong' shows that he is disturbingly out of touch with what's going in the lives of ordinary Americans. Even as his own ads try to convince him that the economy is in crisis, apparently his 26 years in Washington have left him incapable of understanding that the policies he supports have created an historic economic crisis.

And, an hour or so later, Joe Biden weighs in as well:

"John McCain has confessed, and I quote - I want to make sure I get it right - he said, it's easy for me to be in Washington and frankly be somewhat divorced from the day-to-day challenges people have. Well, he's right. He's right. If all you do is walk the halls of power, all you'll hear is the wants of the powerful. Ladies and gentleman, I believe that's why John McCain could say with a straight face as recently as this morning, and this is a quote, the fundamentals of the economy are strong. That's what John said. He says that we've made great progress economically, in the Bush years. Ladies and gentlemen, I could walk from here to Lansing, and I wouldn't run into a single person who thought our economy was doing well, unless I ran into John McCain."

John McCain may want to refine his economic message a bit more during this potentially disastrous week for the financial sector. On the campaign trail in Jacksonville, Florida, the Senator declared t...
John McCain may want to refine his economic message a bit more during this potentially disastrous week for the financial sector. On the campaign trail in Jacksonville, Florida, the Senator declared t...
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McCain would say that the middle class is doing OK. He defines "middle class" as making as much as $5,000,000 per year. Is this guy out of touch or what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 09/16/2008

Do we really want a president like McCain, who waits until AFTER disasters to talk about solving them?
None of what is happening now on Wallstreet, was unexpected. I've read warnings in the Wall Street Journal and The NY Times for a couple of years now, by economists that know what the hell they are talking about. Where was McCain then?? Isn't he privy to the same information, if not much more then I am ? What did he do about these dire warnings then? NOTHING. There were people who knew what would happen if we invaded Iraq ; and warned us again and again, of the dire consequences of going to war in Iraq. Where was McCain? He was in lock step with the neocons. Obama heeded those warnings and understood them well. And took a very unpopular stance against the invasion, and almost stood alone as a senator on this issue. McCain tells us he can now change Wall street, Oh really? A man who confessed to know little about economics is going to change Wall street? He tells us we will have victory in Iraq...oh really? Just what is his definition of the word victory one wonders?
We need a leader that understands at least some of these problems BEFORE they become REAL problems. McCain is NOT that man. The simple truth , is that McCain will say ANYTHING to get elected, and NOTHING will change if he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 09/16/2008

"Fundamental" is a word most liberals don't know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 09/16/2008

McCain is mostly right.
Once the housing/credit problems are behind us, most business sectors are doing quite well.
The worst thing that someone could do right now (OBAMA!) is to badmouth the economy.
If you scare people enough, they will totally withdraw and cause a recession.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 09/16/2008
- mikemaj I'm a Fan of mikemaj 2 fans permalink

You must be living in a dreamworld or must be one of those 5million and more rich person. What most other business sectors would be good for if you don't have housing. Your credit will be shattered. OBAMA is right. He is not scaring the people, he is telling as it is. Talking about scaring people, what McCain is doing when he talks about another attack, he is scaring Americans on unnecessary security issues.

Come join to an intelligent Presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 09/17/2008
- Pulemerci I'm a Fan of Pulemerci 9 fans permalink

Actually, Mike Bloomberg agrees with Senator McCain by saying "The fundamentals of the economy are strong." I think Bloomberg knows a thing or two about economics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 09/16/2008
- mikemaj I'm a Fan of mikemaj 2 fans permalink

Tell this to people who lost their houses and jobs. And that is not a small number of people. Remember when a neighbor or a friend loses his/her job, it is recession and when you lose your job it is depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 09/17/2008
- gigs I'm a Fan of gigs 2 fans permalink

sen mccain: i am that strong middle class worker - and i am very tired of being the mule pulling this economy along while the top 2% in this country get the tax breaks and the free ride on my back-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 09/16/2008

If I were John McCain I would not quote Herbert Hoover, who said during the misery of the Great Depression “the economy is fundamentally strong.” By the way how can McCain talk about free market capitalism, and government getting out of the way and go to Washington and being the big reformer, doesn’t pass the smell test.

Milton Friedman’s ideas about laissez-faire capitalism sound great, if you can trust the capitalist. The free trade fundamentalist irrational devotion to laissez-faire has been leading to this moment since Reagan, but even he was willing to make adjustments and the Reagan economy was bumpy at best. Reagan tax reform screwed the middle class who lost their tax deductions. one of the most underhanded tax increases in my experience.

Bush has proven he is simply not flexible or agile enough to deal effectively enough with crises, Republicans have become special interest driven ideologues, weather they are Christian fundamentalist, movement conservatives, corporate fundamentalist, or the neo-cons. Republicans have forgotten why Teddy Roosevelt push anti-trust laws in the 1st place, or why FDR pushed banking regulations to promote trust in the system ruined by the Great Depression. What the Bush administration could not legally deregulate, they gamed the system by staffing federal agencies with ideologues who had little interest in regulating anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 09/16/2008

I don't mean to be scurrilous, but watching McCain on the Today show this morning (Sept 16th), I could almost swear that McCain has had a Botox injection. Online video available from here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/

Can we get some clarification from the campaign perhaps?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 09/16/2008
- Rnactivist I'm a Fan of Rnactivist 6 fans permalink

As usual Mccain is out of touch...ea­sy to be that way with a wife worth 100 million.
so I guess unemployment up to 6% is good for the economy
Federal deficiet is 357 billion
Debt up to 10 trillion
gas prices rising
500,000 have lost jobs since Jan 08
Stock market crashing..­..
And the REPUBLICANS have had control for 8 years!
Yep the economy is doing fine. mr. McSAME ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 09/16/2008

Let's not mention Pelosi's rule over congress and her much forgotten plans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 09/16/2008
- marm I'm a Fan of marm 4 fans permalink

Pelosi is only Speaker of the House. If you had watched C-SPAN as much as I have, you'd know where the bump in the road is. The minority of Republicans in the Senate have blocked every single attempt by the Democrats to pass legislation that would have helped alleviate some of our direst problems. The Senate Minority Leader (from Kentucky) has to be one of the most obstinate and obtuse human beings on the face of the earth. Until there's a veto-proof plurality of Democrats in the Senate, as there is in the House, nothing is going to change for the better. Time after time, legislation has passed the House, which does have a substantial Democratic majority, only to be killed in the Senate. Know what you're talking about before you sound off, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 09/17/2008
- w8aminute I'm a Fan of w8aminute 16 fans permalink

Somebody needs to review the McCain introductions in Orlando yesterday.­...I could be wrong, but I think he messed up and called Sen Mel Martinez "Bob", or introduced him as former Governor or something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 09/16/2008
- Plank I'm a Fan of Plank 5 fans permalink

"access to international markets" can't happen with a trigger-happy, beligerent candidate. Aggressive stances against countries such as Russia (an important emerging market for American Corporations) does not help sell US products.
MacCain/Palin: wrong for the economy, wrong for the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 09/16/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

There is a difference between the fundamentals of the economy and various individual problems. Overall, inflation is up a bit but not seriously so, unemployment numbers are not, historically, high, company profits are not bad, and so on and so on. There have been only two bad elements in the economy: 1) Oil prices, which have acted like a tax, a brake, on the economy (and Obama has wanted to step hard on this brake and slow the economy more!) and 2) The housing bubble. The speculation in houses and the issuance of loans to the unqualified was pushed by both congress and the executive branch as they thought it would be good to get more people into their own houses. That would have been smart if one could guarantee that prices would always go up and interest rates always remain low. But mortgage companies, virtually blackmailed into making loans to the unqualified under veiled threats of charges of racism and discrimination, should have just bitten the bullet and said no to congress and the president. That's the way I see it. All in all, the economic FUNDAMENTALS aren't bad and I'm investing more right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 09/16/2008
- mikemaj I'm a Fan of mikemaj 2 fans permalink

All these could have been avoided if McCain supported the Regulations and oversight of the financial institutions. No body was watching (thanks to Republicans) what these institutions were doing for years. McCain, specifically, objected to any regulations ( he was getting a lot of money from them) that would have prevented this fiasco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 09/17/2008
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This from a man who admittedly does not understand the economy, who does not understand the pain of the middle class and below, who doesn't hear those within and beyond our country who have been ringing alarm bells for years in anticipation of what is happening, who doesn't hear die hard Republican Alan Greenspan claim this is the worst economy he has ever seen and goes on to say McCain strategy for the economy is unaffordable!
This is the man Republicans want in the White House? A man who takes his cues from the legion of lobbyists running his campaign, who will readily sacrifice the security of the nation by choosing a running mate with NO understanding of what makes the world go around excepting her belief that God will tell he what to do!
America wake up, pull the wool from your eyes and realize that we are reaching a point of no return. Our stature in the world is dwindling away, saber rattling to provide purpose will only isolate us more. Tomorrow we need the world more that the world needs us, Bush Cheney have mortgaged our future in so many ways...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 09/16/2008

John McCain and his opinions on the economy are like the guy that Tom Friedman talked about recently in an interview who throws himself out of the 80th floor and for the first 79 floors thinks he is flying!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 09/16/2008
- bacaangel I'm a Fan of bacaangel 2 fans permalink

If McCain can so easily and readily lie to you without blinking, how can you believe him when he tells you ANYTHING! You can't. A man's word is his bond. You just can't trust McCain to be honest, nor his running mate Sarah Palin.

John McCain -- "he walked the anti-regulatory party line, with only occasional exceptions­...and tried to lay down a smokescreen of righteousness by campaigning against small potato[e!]s like legislative earmarks--money to study the mating habits of, uh, crabs, in, uh, Alaska (proposed by Governor Honorable)­." Joe Klein

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 09/16/2008
- jeanwny I'm a Fan of jeanwny 11 fans permalink

Doesn't blink, what have you been watching my friend

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 09/16/2008
- SailFree I'm a Fan of SailFree 29 fans permalink

The most important word in your statement is "if." Why do you think he was lying?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 09/16/2008
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