Ukraine's Pro-Western Government Collapses

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MARIA DANILOVA | September 16, 2008 03:58 PM EST | AP

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Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko gestures during an interview with The Associated Press in Kiev, Ukraine, Tuesday, Sept. 16, 2008. Yushchenko on Tuesday accused Russia of seeking to destabilize his country by inciting separatist sentiments in its volatile Crimean peninsula, but vowed the Kremlin will not succeed. (AP Photo/Mykola Lazarenko)

KIEV, Ukraine — President Viktor Yushchenko accused Russia on Tuesday of trying to destabilize Ukraine by encouraging separatists in the Crimea, as fears grow about Russia's willingness to throw its weight around the former Soviet Union.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Yushchenko sought to tamp down criticism of his leadership in Ukraine after the collapse of his pro-Western coalition raised the possibility of a third parliamentary election in as many years.

Russia's war with Georgia last month rattled Yushchenko's pro-Western government, which like Georgia has pushed for membership in NATO and the European Union. Many Ukrainians wonder whether Ukraine will be the next victim of Russia's drive to stop NATO's expansion to its borders.

Many fear Moscow could lay claim to Crimea, the Black Sea peninsula that once belonged to Russia and is now home to Russia's Black Sea fleet. More than half its residents are ethnic Russians.

Yushchenko said Russia was interested in causing "internal instability" in parts of Ukraine.

"Without a doubt, such scenarios exist," he said.

"For some of our partners, instability in Ukraine is like bread with butter," he said.

Yushchenko said Ukraine was too big and strong to give in to threats from Russia or a repeat of the war in Georgia, which resulted in Russia invading the country, routing its military and occupying large swaths of its territory. Moscow has recognized two breakaway Georgian regions as independent nations.

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"Will they repeat the Georgian scenario?" Yushchenko asked. "For sure, no."

"Ukraine is not Georgia," he said. "I think that today to deal with a country like Ukraine in such an inconsiderate manner ... is not a good idea for anyone."

Russia wants to continue leasing the Sevastopol naval base in the Crimea from Ukraine after the current agreement expires in 2017. Yushchenko said the war with Georgia, with Russian warships based at Sevastopol participating, showed again that the Russian navy must leave Crimea.

Ukrainian officials also have accused Moscow of stirring trouble with claims that the Crimea belongs to Russia and by allegedly giving Russian passports to thousands of Crimeans to stoke separatist sentiments.

Yushchenko, who has made NATO membership the central theme of his four-year presidency, promised that Ukraine would eventually join the Western alliance, and he vowed to overcome domestic resistance to NATO. Opinion polls show more than half of Ukrainians oppose membership, with opposition strongest in the Russian-speaking regions in the east and south, including Crimea.

Yushchenko, wearing a striped black suit and red tie, spoke and gestured confidently during the 30-minute interview. His face looked nearly healed of the pock-like scars caused by the dioxin poisoning that briefly knocked him out of the 2004 presidential election race. He has suggested the near-fatal poisoning was masterminded in Russia.

Yushchenko spoke hours after his coalition was declared dead, starting a 30-day countdown for lawmakers to either form a new alliance or call elections.

Yushchenko said the collapse did not threaten the country's tumultuous democracy. He accused his coalition partner Yulia Tymoshenko _ the prime minister who was his ally in the 2004 Orange Revolution _ of betraying national interests and acting selfishly.

The alliance between the two leaders' parties disintegrated amid infighting ahead of the 2010 presidential election, in which both expect to compete.

Yushchenko's allies pulled out of the coalition after Tymoshenko sided with opposition lawmakers to curtail presidential powers. Yushchenko again accused Tymoshenko of acting on the Kremlin's behalf by failing to condemn the war in Georgia and of seeking to retain power at all costs ahead of the vote.

Tymoshenko said in a statement before the interview that she hoped Parliament would find a way out of the crisis.

Analysts believe that the next coalition may include the Russia-friendly Party of Regions and be more responsive to Moscow's demands.

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Associated Press writer Olga Bondaruk contributed to this story from Kiev.

KIEV, Ukraine — President Viktor Yushchenko accused Russia on Tuesday of trying to destabilize Ukraine by encouraging separatists in the Crimea, as fears grow about Russia's willingness to throw...
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- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

Mедведев звонит Путину:
- Вlадимиp, gоссекpетаpь США Кондоlиза Райс осудиlа
пpизнание Россией независимости Абхазии и Южной Осетии. Что ей ответить?

Путин:
- Отвечайте что хотите, тоlько помните, сl"ово "чеpножопая" пишется
сl"итно, а "не ебет" - pаздеlьно.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 AM on 09/18/2008
- inlewof See Profile I'm a Fan of inlewof permalink

You can take the Russian out of his motherland, but you can't take the motherland's chauvinism out of the Russian (sobaka).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 09/17/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

F БАБРУ"СК, Ж"ВОТ"АЕ!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 09/18/2008
- Whinger See Profile I'm a Fan of Whinger permalink

Russia has drawn a line in the sand over which CIA interference will no longer be permitted to pass.

The Great Bear has awakened, and the west had better pay heed and back off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 09/17/2008
- NeoAnderson See Profile I'm a Fan of NeoAnderson permalink

Everyone knows, or at least you should, that the Orange revolution was engineered by the CIA run National Endowment for Democracy and George Soros in order to install US puppet government run by President Viktor Yushchenko. The grand architect of these CIA run revolutions is madman and war criminal Zbignew Brzezinski and his pet project to redraw the borders of the Middle East in order to seize control of their resources and get rid of the 2 remaining oppositions to his plan, i.e. China and Russia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 09/17/2008
- inlewof See Profile I'm a Fan of inlewof permalink

NeoAnderson--your point could be made more valid and the situation could be more illuminated if you didn't resort to stupid conspiracy rhetoric. Try again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 09/17/2008
- NeoAnderson See Profile I'm a Fan of NeoAnderson permalink

I suggest you research the "color revolutions" that the CIA and the National Endowment for Democracy orchestrated in the former Soviet states and the USA Obama campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 09/17/2008
- NeoAnderson See Profile I'm a Fan of NeoAnderson permalink

There is no conspiracy rhetoric. Have you studied the life of George Soros or Zbignew Brzeznski or read any of their writings? Do you even know what the National Endowment for Democracy is? I think you need to go back to school, a real school.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 09/17/2008
- bernusdellus See Profile I'm a Fan of bernusdellus permalink

Are we supposed to forget that Georgia started the war with Russia?

Almost certainly set up by the U.S. in order to provide an excuse to do what they've now done... Send in troops and try to make everyone think that it was an act of Russian aggression.

What with the lying-est ever elections coming up and all the other dirty tricks going on around the globe, is there any hope at all that the U.S. government will EVER be trustworthy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 AM on 09/17/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

Hint for Ukraine: don't play around with Sevastopol. Any whiff of NATO troops in Sevastopol would push Russia to the brink of in Crimea. Mr. U.S.chenko, British troops not going to protect you. Another hint: Ukrainian troops since history never, ever won a single major battle ( may be against Polacks only).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 AM on 09/17/2008
- inlewof See Profile I'm a Fan of inlewof permalink

Ukrainians don't win battles because they are inherently too democratic. As the saying goes, "If you have two Ukrainians in a room, you'll get three political parties."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 09/17/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

There's no such saying. This saying is about Israelis. Sorry, I don't argue Ukrainian politics with those incapable finding Kiev on the map. I recommend begining your education on the subject with a basic geo-political primer and maybe "Taras Bulba."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 09/17/2008
- OhReallySheSaid See Profile I'm a Fan of OhReallySheSaid permalink

World War I began clumsily when the Austrian-Hungarian, German, British, and Russian empires all were forced to honored their overextended military guarantees against each other after the heir to the Austrian Emperor Joseph was assassinated in Sarajevo. In the lead up everyone thought everyone was bluffing about their threats to act, and no leader really wanted war. The rest is history. Nato today is playing a deadly game in which we are backing unstable and highly nationalistic young countries like Georgia and Ukraine who would like nothing better than a US-Russo War. Settling old scores in the baltics and caucasus is not NATO's job. Ukraine and especially the Crimea legitimately belong to Russia as much as New Orleans is forever American. 51% of Ukrainians don't want to join NATO, plus 7 million Russian nationalists are 30% of Ukraine's population. The British never listened to the Arabs when inventing a country called Iraq in the early 1900s, and now were doing the same against Russia. This will be a stupid war and one that never should've happened.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 09/17/2008
- collprof See Profile I'm a Fan of collprof permalink

The orange revolution will take to the streets in Kiev as before. Yushenko will win out if Tymoshenko does not turn completely red and sell out.

Now it's time for USA to completely turn the faucet closed on Russia with sanctions that squeeze his real power and that is money and the economy. The Russia stock market has fallen big time with big investors scared of the tactics Putin taking in Georgia. When the oil rich backers start losing then they yell and then Putin listens. Ukraine has always been on the brink since their independence in early 90's with a divided country both for and against returning to the Russian motherland.

But that is the only lever Bush has as he has weakened the USA with war after war and now the destruction of the economy makes our 2nd rate status complete. 20 years from now there will be books on the beginning of the fall of America. If began with Reagan and was finished off with a weak President who allowed an egotistical maniac like Cheney to wage a war unilaterally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 AM on 09/17/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

orange revolution is over. It was a one time thing. People wanted change and they got it. Now all they want is improved economy, cheaper gas prices and cheaper meat.
The closer ties with the West brought NO improvement in economy, only political trouble. Now common Ukrainians watch the Russia Belorussian economic miracle unfolding and asking" why not us."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 09/17/2008
- mnkors See Profile I'm a Fan of mnkors permalink

"Now it's time for USA to completely turn the faucet closed on Russia with sanctions that squeeze his real power and that is money and the economy."
To punish for what? That Russians moved on? -- They do not need any confrontations, they have barely made it off the profound crisis, while the USA has been for sale to the weapon producers and big shot-oil-speculators...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 09/17/2008
- Rog49Thomas See Profile I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas permalink

Just the sort of level headed folks we need in Nato..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 AM on 09/17/2008
- codwix See Profile I'm a Fan of codwix permalink

Unless we get our house in order there is nothing we can do.
With an over extended military, an economy in disarray, and a delusional populace, we have become a paper eagle.
Our weakness will encourage more international disorder in the months and years to come, as others seek to fill the void left by a less than superpower.
Americans need to remember experience does on equal wisdom.

bush/mccain/palin 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 09/17/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

Why would any country stir trouble with Russia as its neighbor?! Especially Ukraine that has such close relationship with Russia, ben indeed the cradle of Russian civilization. Hopefully now TImoshenko and Yushkevitch can form a coalition government.
Note that all the governments that were force fed from CIA program share the same irrational hatred of Russia, questionable democratic practices and instability of government due to its questionable mandate from its people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 09/16/2008
- izAriver See Profile I'm a Fan of izAriver permalink

I feel empathy for these people. They were led into something that exudes hope but has no substance. Real economics has nothing to do with democracy. Free enterprise maybe but not democracy. Capitalism certainly, greed grows like weeds but not democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 09/16/2008
- izAriver See Profile I'm a Fan of izAriver permalink

to steamboater,
You don't know what democracy is. The things you cite are inherent to capitalism and free enterprise. Necessary to consumerism. You can't sell if you don't make things look free. You trivialize democracy by your ignorance of it's real meaning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 09/16/2008
- iChoose See Profile I'm a Fan of iChoose permalink

In the 90's when the Dems run the show, we were wealthy. The world was at peace. Russia was a friend. Gas was cheap. Bring that back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 09/16/2008
- WorldGriot See Profile I'm a Fan of WorldGriot permalink

I wonder if anyone has noticed besides me that as a going away present, the Bush-Cheney Cabal seems to be leaving us with a world oddly reminiscent of the cold war days complete with a teetering economy, a weakened military, two ongoing wars and now increasing turmoil with Russia and it's surrounding neighbors, in central and South America and I'm willing to bet that Asia other than Pakistan will be back in the news soon as well. The Neocon's have always longed for those days of never ending conflict because that is how they keep the defense industries solvent. But I think this article suggests that they are miscalculating with this wreckless expansion of NATO to surround Russia. Putin has warned us not to trifle with Russia's sphere of influence. But the Western alliance is thumbing its nose at the moment. I remember this is what happened in Turkey in the 1960's when Russia put Missles in Cuba to counterbalance the power. we had to turn tail and run in a face saving gesture. Here we go again. Whose behind all this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 09/16/2008
- Paul Peete - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Paul Peete permalink

You are right and wrong my friend. The neocons with PNAC want to be the only superpower on the planet, they wanted to use their weapons against those too weak to resist them, however your observations regarding the Russians is spot on. They have gained wealth through petrodollars just as we have expended ours on two wars. They have resumed contact with Cuba to refuel their long range bombers to thumb their noses at us for playing footsie with Georgia and Ukraine.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-peete/mccain-for-sale-to-the-hi_b_126375.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 09/16/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

Many countries make serious money from petroleum. Some are still badly ran banana republics.
Russia's improvement came from well ran government. Period. This resulted in: improvement of social services, improved tax collection, breaking the power of oligarchs, elimination of regional king-makers and diplomatic improvement of Russia's standing in the world.
All spearheaded by Putin's cohort of competent managers. Bravo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 09/17/2008
- NoSillyName See Profile I'm a Fan of NoSillyName permalink

Sounds like the old Domino Theory. First Georgia falters, then Ukraine crashes. Next?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 09/16/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

Russians play 3-d chess. You, and people whose thinking you ape are still playing dominos. Hence inability to make sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 09/17/2008
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