Obama Camp: Better Chance At Florida Than Ohio

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First Posted: 09-18-08 11:01 AM   |   Updated: 10-19-08 05:12 AM

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On Tuesday, Barack Obama campaign manager David Plouffe sent a video to reporters laying out the political landscape with less than 50 days until the election. In it, he made a startling pronouncement: the Obama campaign was going to spend a total of $39 million in Florida, a state that, while classified as a battleground, is considered a long shot for the Democrat.

"Bush won Florida by 380,000 votes in 2004. If you look at the number of registered African-Americans who did not turn out in '04 it is over a half million; 900,000 registered young voters didn't turn out. There are over 1.4 million voters who we consider base voters who didn't register. Obviously there are a couple million more registered targets," explained Plouffe. "We have enough base voters in Florida to win the election if we can just turn them out. "

The "under the hood" peek at Obama's Sunshine State operation was met with general surprise. Such a budget, after all, would come at the expense of other battleground states that seemed much more promising.

In actuality, the Obama campaign has long seen Florida as fertile turf. Indeed a high-ranking adviser to the Senator told the Huffington Post several weeks ago, explicitly, that they envisioned more opportunity there than in Ohio and would be focusing their efforts likewise.

Another aide to the campaign said that Plouffe understood the Senator's chances in Florida. In addition to the million-plus registered voters who had not turned out in 2004, the campaign was targeting up to another million of African-Americans, youth and Latinos who were unregistered. In addition, Obama's aides have spearheaded a faith outreach drive to woo the large swath of religious voters who reside, primarily, in the northern part of the state. All these groups, the high-ranking official noted, were targeted heavily in Ohio back in 2004, making the margin for growth there far narrower.

And if Kerry's 400,000-vote loss to Bush in 2004 was a baseline, he added, then there were obvious avenues through which Obama could make up that ground.

"A few years ago the state party was in debt. They got creamed in '02, and '00 was demoralizing," the aide said. "Kerry campaigned here but he did it too late. In places like North Florida he got killed. That won't happen this time around. There are pockets in North Florida where 20 or 25 percent of African-Americans chose Bush over Kerry."

There are, of course, variables to this equation. For starters, because Democratic candidates agreed not to campaign in Florida during the primary, Obama was not able to woo voters (he did fundraise) in the state until this spring. He started really organizing a ground game only in July. As such, the campaign has just under 50 offices there as opposed to the nearly 70 it has functioning in Ohio.

The McCain campaign, meanwhile, has clearly invested in Florida as well, with the Senator recently making a stop in Jacksonville and previously appearing multiple times alongside the state's governor, Charlie Crist. The GOP, moreover, has been willing to push the envelope in the Sunshine State. On Tuesday, it was reported that the Republican National Committee, authorized by the McCain campaign, was sending out mailings confusing Democratic voters by telling them "We have you registered as a Republican."

Earlier in the week, it was discovered that the Republican Jewish Coalition had commissioned a poll in Florida and elsewhere that phrased questions designed to make Obama look like a stooge of the Palestinians.

On the flip side, there is Sarah Palin. The Alaska governor may be a boost to conservative hopes throughout the country, but in the Sunshine State her candidacy may be a liability. There is a sense of skepticism within the Jewish community over her religious affiliations, as well as allegations that she supported Pat Buchanan's run for the White House in 2000. Palin, the McCain campaign has noted, voted for Steve Forbes in that election. Nevertheless, Jewish community's concerns (stoked, it should be noted, by the Obama campaign) could prove the difference in what is shaping up to be yet another closely fought election.

On Tuesday, Barack Obama campaign manager David Plouffe sent a video to reporters laying out the political landscape with less than 50 days until the election. In it, he made a startling pronouncement...
On Tuesday, Barack Obama campaign manager David Plouffe sent a video to reporters laying out the political landscape with less than 50 days until the election. In it, he made a startling pronouncement...
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If you have to vote in a battle ground state, vote early if you can.

We know what happened last time. Republicans know exactly where they need to tweak and this time especially they will make even greater effort to keep Black Folk from voting. Vote early or absentee ballot that way you KNOW YOU GET TO VOTE. If there should be potential problems you will know it too BEFORE ELECTION DAY. Be pro-active. Check with your state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 09/19/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Personally, I prefer to wait because you never know what is going to happen the last month before the election and the more information I have the better to make my decision.

It always makes me suspicious when people try to rush me to do something as important as vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 09/19/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

on that i agree.......at least in my state.......winners are determined­.....absen­tee ballots are counted if it looks like it is possible to change the results.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 09/19/2008

Well if you are Dems its more like this: Vote early and often and if you are dead, well that shouldn't stop you from voting. And if you don't live here just vote and vote. It really doesn't matter just show up and vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 09/19/2008


In Ohio, there's a Democratic governor. In FL there's a Republican. Trust that it makes the difference in a close election. Obama-Biden must not pour all resources into FL, starving the campaign operation in Ohio and other battleground states.

The push-polling propagandization of Obama that's currently going on in Ohio & other battleground states by the Republicans will need massive and aggressive countering. Let's put it this way. All genuine Obama supporters must raise more funds than never before. The RNC has $100 million precisely for such dirty politics. Obama needs more than $ 100 million folks, and yes it is possible. Go to the website and donate.

Obama-Biden in Virginia

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 09/19/2008

Isn't Obama closing in on like 400 Million dollars in the last six months. What if some company was spending that and wasting that amount of cash. They would be called Evil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 09/19/2008
- Melissa I'm a Fan of Melissa 22 fans permalink

He will never win Florida.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 09/19/2008
- wdw101 I'm a Fan of wdw101 20 fans permalink

push polling only works on stupid people........so i don't have any problem with push polling

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 09/19/2008
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Just bear in mind that Democrats control more of the voter access apparatus in Ohio now than they did in either 2000 or 2004. There will still be voter suppression in both states, but the Florida GOP has more legal options to disenfranchise voters than Ohio does.

That being said, Obama has the resources to jump thru all sorts of hoops in every state. Enough cash, enough staff and volunteers to literally shepherd hundreds of thousands of "at risk" voters thru the attempts at caging.

Here in Michigan, the GOP Secretary of State is intent on purging thousands of voters who have either gotten drivers licenses in other states and those who USPS has returned mail to a SOS office as "undeliverable" in the past two years. This is the first state I've lived in that had a shorter than 4 year purging mechanism, yet this law has been on the books for over 30 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 09/19/2008

What suppression. I guess whenever your choice doesn't win it is suppression and when you will its fair. Which party likes to have those that are dead and or not part of this country vote? Dems is the answer. Which party cries when the lose not because their ideas lost but because they think others cheated. This is so BS. Keep repeating your bumper sticker and start crying now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 09/19/2008
- JDJase I'm a Fan of JDJase 6 fans permalink

WHen will they learn they need to stop saying this stuff? Obama started crashing in the Ohio polls back when he literally said "we don't need to win Ohio"...in Ohio. You don't tell a state that you don't need to win it, that's like walking up to someone and telling them you don't care if they vote for you or not. This arrogance strategy is really starting to piss me off

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 09/19/2008
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WAKE UP!!

Obama! If You Want to Win -Boot Biden and Bring Back Hillary

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bonnie-fuller/obama-if-you-want-to-win_b_127213.html


www.votehillary2012now.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 09/19/2008

Why do so many of Hillary's so-called supporters FEAR an Obama W I N?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 09/19/2008
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Too Partisan, destroyed Clinton during primaries by running way left (doles not hold same positions), Can't beat the neocons at a game they are more experienced at, does not even know how to pass the legislation he is claiming to "change"

Without bipartisanship he will be a lame duck

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 09/19/2008
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and What is wrong with Obamanites?

The first female Prez was not enough "change" for you?

Or not even a vetting process for veep?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 09/19/2008

WHY. NOT. TAKE. THEM. BOTH. Dammit?

This overcooked ala carte "strategy" by Dems has always pissed me off.

Last time I checked, there were 50 states. Why not make an effort to WIN THEM ALL?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 09/19/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 119 fans permalink
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I think they are trying, and Obama is leading in Ohio right now. I think 50 campaign offices is a sign that they are trying. However, sometimes you have to cut your losses and redirect your efforts.

More importantly, all candidates focus in their strongest states. Have you heard about McCain campaigning in California, New York, Maryland, D.C. ? He knows he will not win in these and several other states, so he send mailers or buys ads, but does not stomp in those states. Democrats on the other hand are all over the map. The original plan was a 50 state strategy, I'm not sure how many states they remain in heavily. Obama is all over Pennsylvania, which is very close, but we are working our @sses off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 09/19/2008

Better work harder because time is running out. And I love to see you libs go for a losing cause. Priceless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 09/19/2008

He is making an effort, but he is making a greater effort in the battle ground states. I don't know why you are so freaking mad because anyone with a mind to look at the past and the present would know that we have to do heavy work in battle ground states more so.

Obama has a 50 state plan, please try to get to know what is really going on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 09/19/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Yeah, Howard's 50 state plan seems to have disappeared.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 09/19/2008
- duze I'm a Fan of duze 23 fans permalink

YouTube:

Phillip Butler former POW with John McCain.

America's got to see this!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 09/19/2008
- EZKY I'm a Fan of EZKY 2 fans permalink

dont forget all the liberal colleges in ohio. it just may be students that turn this thing, in a variety of states....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 AM on 09/19/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

Liberal colleges in Ohio? LOL!!! Let's see there is Miami University and....and­....and...­.I think Antioch closed down for a couple of years to reorganize. So, that leaves Miami University.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 09/19/2008
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Excerpt Text from article ""Bush won Florida by 380,000 votes in 2004. If you look at the number of registered African-Americans who did not turn out in '04 it is over a half million; 900,000 registered young voters didn't turn out. There are over 1.4 million voters who we consider base voters who didn't register. Obviously there are a couple million more registered targets," explained Plouffe. "We have enough base voters in Florida to win the election if we can just turn them out. "

So this guy automatically assumes Black voters will vote for Obama? Isn't that a form of racism/stereotype? This immature black/white crap needs to stop. (No I'm neither black nor white)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 09/18/2008
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Immature?

Just do the math.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 09/19/2008
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BO can win Florida. He just needs to concentrate his effort where it could make a difference. The key to winning Florida lies along the I-4 corridor (from Tampa to Daytona Beach) particularly the Tampa and Orlando metro areas. Winning these bellwether countries will almost certainly deliver BO the state of Florida; with North Florida and South Florida canceling each other out (North Florida going Republican, South Florida going Democratic).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 09/18/2008
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I've called around 50 Michigan voters in the last week and I've had 63% definitely voting Obama with another 15% leaning towards him. Those are all calls made to the suburbs and not Detroit where he has it locked down already.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 09/18/2008
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In your opinion since your talking to these people, what would make them swing ? What would turn them off?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 09/19/2008

In a pigs eye ! Bo isn't going to win Ohio, Michigan, florida, Virginia, Colorado or Pa.!!! LOSER!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 09/18/2008

In addition to the million-plus registered voters who had not turned out in 2004, the campaign was targeting up to another million of African-Americans, youth and Latinos who were unregistered. In addition.

Democratic hurricane force.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 09/18/2008
- Heaphy I'm a Fan of Heaphy 17 fans permalink
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My goodness, what a perceptive, insighful analysis, lovingpolitics. You've certainly given us food for thought. NOT!
- Jim Heaphy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 09/18/2008
- GuyFawkes I'm a Fan of GuyFawkes 28 fans permalink

With intelligent analysis like that, you should be on CNN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 09/18/2008

You don't love politics.

You lovefascism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 09/19/2008

Lovingpolitics Palin/MCCain is surely not going to win,Ohio,M­ichigan,Fl­orida,Virg­inia, Colorado, or Pa, so that makes two losers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 09/19/2008

Why didn't Gov. Palin support then Gov. Bush or Senator McCain back in 2000? You would think the republicans vice president candidate could at least lie and say she did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 09/18/2008
- Heaphy I'm a Fan of Heaphy 17 fans permalink
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Could it possibly be because she has a fundamentally extremist mentality?
- Jim Heaphy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 09/18/2008

If this is true he will loss both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 09/18/2008
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lol the repubes are unwinding...

Hurricane Obama has yet to hit full force

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 09/18/2008
- CC1 I'm a Fan of CC1 6 fans permalink

Perhaps it will fizzle like Josephine did earlier this month.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 09/18/2008
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