Judge To Cheney: Don't Destroy Your Records

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PETE YOST | September 20, 2008 07:42 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of the records from his time as vice president.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is a setback for the Bush administration in its effort to promote a narrow definition of materials that must be safeguarded under by the Presidential Records Act.

The Bush administration's legal position "heightens the court's concern" that some records may not be preserved, said the judge.

A private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, is suing Cheney and the Executive Office of the President in an effort to ensure that no presidential records are destroyed or handled in a way that makes them unavailable to the public.

In a 22-page opinion, the judge revealed that in recent days, lawyers for the Bush administration balked at a proposed agreement between the two sides on how to proceed with the case.

Cheney and the other defendants in the case "were only willing to agree to a preservation order that tracked their narrowed interpretation" of the Presidential Records Act, wrote Kollar-Kotelly.

The administration, said the judge, wanted any court order on what records are at issue in the suit to cover only the office of the vice president, not Cheney or the other defendants in the lawsuit. The other defendants include the National Archives and the archivist of the United States.

In response to the ruling, Cheney spokesman James R. Hennigan said that "we will not have any comment on pending litigation."

The lawsuit stems from Cheney's position that his office is not part of the executive branch of government.

This summer, Cheney chief of staff David Addington told Congress the vice president belongs to neither the executive nor legislative branch of government, but rather is attached by the Constitution to Congress. The vice president presides over the Senate.

The lawsuit alleges that the Bush administration's actions over the past 7 1/2 years raise questions over whether the White House will turn over records created by Cheney and his staff to the National Archives in January.

In 2003, Cheney asserted that the office of the vice president is not an entity within the executive branch.

Two historians and three groups of historians and archivists joined CREW in filing the suit two weeks ago.

WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of the records from his time as vice president. The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ...
WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of the records from his time as vice president. The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ...
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Skeletor: "Kneel before your master... (He-Man refuses)... fool, you are no longer my equal, I am more than man, more than life... I am a GOD!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 09/22/2008
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The George Bush/Dick Cheney/Carl Rove administration has ruined this country in the last 8 years with this war! Now the Banking and Mortgage Crisis show up all in one week. How, Why, When, What! They should be indicted for treason against the USA for several counts over there watches during these 8 years! They have ruined this country now and for the future! Again, they should all be indicted for treason for crimes against the United States of America! ! !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 10/05/2008
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What a country, what a time, what problems, I don’t see no stinking problems, the fundamentals of American geopolitical hegemony are solid. Freedom is on the move. Those who deserved to make money made large sums of money and the rest are just a bunch of lazy whiners who are imagining things are bad and looking for a handout. Chin up America, you can take it.

Watch the Moyers interview linked below if nothing else, although the Burnham paper is compelling for a perspective on the shaping of American foreign policy towards Russia.


Putin and the geopolitics of the New Cold War
http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070411.htm


U.S. Ambassador Green Lights Iraq invasion of Kuwait
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=us_iraq_80s_807
http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i4911reality.htm


Burnham and Russia
http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/AD_Issues/amdipl_17/articles/sempa_burnham1.html

For whom the bell tolls or Heehaw
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/19/AR2008091902809.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?MLC=/money/city_news&xml=/money/2008/09/21/ccbankingcrisis121.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox

Moyers Interview
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09192008/watch2.html

Persistent Warfare -- what do conservatives think about it?
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed082308a.cfm


Fear tactic or live man posing real threat?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200601/s1547926.htm

How many Iraqi’s dead?
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/31/6768/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 AM on 09/22/2008
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Whateva! Cheney do what he want! What you gonna do? Impeach? HAHAHAHAHA! Cheney, alone disproves that we are a nation of laws. We are a nation of Pirates, and Cheney is the King of the pirates. The galley slaves Nancy and Harry have seen to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 09/22/2008
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Too late....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 09/21/2008
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Dick Cheney has to consider what is more damaging, destroying the records or letting the truth come out. If the records are destroyed the truth must be really really bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 09/21/2008

Gee. This is akin to asking Stalin to not hide all those bodies....CFF

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 09/21/2008
- ropadopa I'm a Fan of ropadopa 19 fans permalink

Judge to Cheney: don't destroy your records. Cheney to judge: Go f.... yourself!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 09/21/2008

Bush "LOST" over a year's worth of e-mails - in CLEAR VIOLATION OF EXISTING LAW - yet ther ewere no consequences...... if you think Cheney is going to care, you're delusional......

Wait...wasn't there ALREADY a frire in the VP offices? I wonder what 'disappeared' then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 09/21/2008
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Response to UplandBob re. allegation of Ageism: Several problems here Bob. It is not being ageist if McCain is thinking Spain is in south America. Then he nukes our relationship with them because he doesn't seem to comprehend his mistake. Do you think he never knew Spain was in Europe? Better look into this. Secondly, Reagan was an actor with dementia actually. We can't be totally sure who was running things when he was in office, but likely it was Oliver North and things didn't go so well. Many people fell into poverty then and he ran up the national debt four times over what it was when Carter was in office. Just like present Bush only not quite as bad. Carter predicted the energy crisis and tried to do something about it, but didn't get repub support, so was unable to get that done. I think you know Reagan died with alzheimers. Carter has written more than 20 books and built houses for Habitat for Humanities. So, your view isn't exactly accurate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 09/21/2008

bingo ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 09/22/2008

Are we tried yet of getting our daily rectal exams from the Bush Administration? Don't worry guys it will be over soon. ..unless McCain wins....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 09/21/2008

CHENEY...THE COWARDLY CRIMINAL. WHY WONT THIS SITE POST MY BEST COMMENTS ,IS CHENEY CHECKING

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 09/21/2008
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Yeah, Cheney's gonna listen too, he's worried. NOT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 09/21/2008

MAYBE CHENEY NOWS ,WHY THE HEEBS SLAUGHTERED 34 AMERICAN SAILORS IN 67

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 09/21/2008
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Why is the moderator permitting this obvious racial epithet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 09/21/2008

PENDING ,WHAT?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 09/21/2008

WHATS THE PROBLEM NOW CENSORS?

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