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Economic Honor Roll (VIDEO)

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First Posted: 10-12-08 04:40 PM   |   Updated: 11-12-08 05:12 AM

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Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve their share of the blame, it is also important to recognize those issued warnings about the fragility of the financial system and sounded the alarm about an impending collapse before it all came crashing down.

Below is the beginning of our look at some of the figures--politicians, economists, pundits--whose observations about our financial situation have come to seem all too prescient. Please check back as more names are added to our list and by all means let us know who else deserves credit for having seen our current meltdown coming.


Nouriel Roubini, NYU professor of economics: from "The Rising Risk of a Systemic Financial Meltdown: The Twelve Steps to Financial Disaster" (subscription req'd), February 5, 2008

Sixth, it is possible that some large regional or even national bank that is very exposed to mortgages, residential and commercial, will go bankrupt. Thus some big banks may join the 200 plus subprime lenders that have gone bankrupt.[...]

Ninth, the "shadow banking system" (as defined by the PIMCO folks) or more precisely
the "shadow financial system" (as it is composed by non-bank financial institutions) will
soon get into serious trouble.[...]

Tenth, stock markets in the US and abroad will start pricing a severe US recession -
rather than a mild recession - and a sharp global economic slowdown.[...]

A near global economic recession will ensue as the financial and credit losses and the
credit crunch spread around the world. Panic, fire sales, cascading fall in asset prices will
exacerbate the financial and real economic distress as a number of large and systemically
important financial institutions go bankrupt. A 1987 style stock market crash could occur
leading to further panic and severe financial and economic distress.
In this meltdown scenario US and global financial markets will experience their most
severe crisis in the last quarter of a century.



Watch Roubini discuss the financial crisis on Bloomberg TV:



Watch Roubini discuss Fannie and Freddie on Charlie Rose:


Warren Buffett, BBC News, "Buffett Warns On Investment 'Time Bomb,'" March 4, 2003

[Derivatives are] financial weapons of mass destruction.[...]

Derivatives generate reported earnings that are often wildly overstated and based on estimates whose inaccuracy may not be exposed for many years.[...]

Large amounts of risk have becomes concentrated in the hands of relatively few derivatives dealers ... which can trigger serious systematic problems.

Nassim Nicholas Taleb, from his book The Black Swan The Impact of the Highly Improbable, April 2007
Globalization creates interlocking fragility, while reducing volatility and giving the appearance of stability. In other words it creates devastating Black Swans. We have never lived before under the threat of a global collapse. Financial Institutions have been merging into a smaller number of very large banks. Almost all banks are interrelated. So the financial ecology is swelling into gigantic, incestuous, bureaucratic banks - when one fails, they all fall. The increased concentration among banks seems to have the effect of making financial crises less likely, but when they happen they are more global in scale and hit us very hard. We have moved from a diversified ecology of small banks, with varied lending policies, to a more homogeneous framework of firms that all resemble one another. True, we now have fewer failures, but when they occur ....I shiver at the thought.[...]

The government-sponsored institution Fannie Mae, when I look at its risks, seems to be sitting on a barrel of dynamite, vulnerable to the slightest hiccup. But not to worry: their large staff of scientists deemed these events 'unlikely'.

Byron Dorgan, Senator (D-ND): New York Times, "Washington's Invisible Hand," September 26, 2008
Dorgan's comment on McCain adviser Phil Gramm's deregulation efforts back in 1999:
I think we will look back in 10 years' time and say we should not have done this, but we did because we forgot the lessons of the past and that that which is true in the 1930s is true in 2010.

Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist: Washington Post, "The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More," March 9, 2008
We face an economic downturn that's likely to be the worst in more than a quarter-century.

Until recently, many marveled at the way the United States could spend hundreds of billions of dollars on oil and blow through hundreds of billions more in Iraq with what seemed to be strikingly little short-run impact on the economy. But there's no great mystery here. The economy's weaknesses were concealed by the Federal Reserve, which pumped in liquidity, and by regulators that looked away as loans were handed out well beyond borrowers' ability to repay them. Meanwhile, banks and credit-rating agencies pretended that financial alchemy could convert bad mortgages into AAA assets, and the Fed looked the other way as the U.S. household-savings rate plummeted to zero.

It's a bleak picture. The total loss from this economic downturn -- measured by the disparity between the economy's actual output and its potential output -- is likely to be the greatest since the Great Depression.

Paul Krugman, New York Times columnist

Krugman has been warning about the dangers of the housing bubble for years, and the terrible toll it could take on the economy when it pops. Here is a Krugman warning from August 29, 2005:

These days Mr. Greenspan expresses concern about the financial risks created by "the prevalence of interest-only loans and the introduction of more-exotic forms of adjustable-rate mortgages." But last year he encouraged families to take on those very risks, touting the advantages of adjustable-rate mortgages and declaring that "American consumers might benefit if lenders provided greater mortgage product alternatives to the traditional fixed-rate mortgage.


If Mr. Greenspan had said two years ago what he's saying now, people might have borrowed less and bought more wisely. But he didn't, and now it's too late. There are signs that the housing market either has peaked already or soon will. And it will be up to Mr. Greenspan's successor to manage the bubble's aftermath.

How bad will that aftermath be? The U.S. economy is currently suffering from twin imbalances. On one side, domestic spending is swollen by the housing bubble, which has led both to a huge surge in construction and to high consumer spending, as people extract equity from their homes. On the other side, we have a huge trade deficit, which we cover by selling bonds to foreigners. As I like to say, these days Americans make a living by selling each other houses, paid for with money borrowed from China.

One way or another, the economy will eventually eliminate both imbalances.


Daniel Altman, author, economic journalist and Huffpo blogger, from "Contracts So Complex They Imperil The System", February 24, 2002

When companies that rack up huge hidden debts and traders who illicitly amass mountains of risk are exposed, Wall Street's big players rush to cut their losses and collect on their debts. If that kind of rush were ever to result in a shortage of cash, it would paralyze the financial system. Stock markets would tumble and banks would close, putting the savings of households at risk.


Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve ...
Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve ...
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
LiarLiarIraqsOnFire
09:41 PM on 10/19/2008
Mother Jones had a big piece on the Sub-prime loans in the Sep/Oct issue back in '06.
08:31 AM on 10/19/2008
There has been only one who has predicted a quantitative nonlinear ending to the current generational cycle:

http://www.economicfractalist.com/
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hollybork
02:12 PM on 10/15/2008
Memo to Keith Olberman
cc: Rachel Maddow
Get these people on your show pronto. As you know, we expect the best of MSNBC and we can take a few three bit words and a brain stimulation here and there among all the endless rounds of the same old thing. Get these guys on, please, please, please.
12:43 PM on 10/15/2008
I'm surprised this hasn't made an appearance on either the HuffPo Political or Economy pages:

http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12342127

The Economist poll of economists regarding the Presidential candidates' economic plans.
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CroatianCritter
is keeping people honest
11:26 PM on 10/14/2008
I know this is a left leaning website but what about Ron Paul? His candidacy brought up this issue when he started gaining popularity last year. The left wing chose to ignore him due to the 'R' next to his name but everything he has been saying has come true. You may not agree with his solutions, but he understood the problem. I still find it tragic that many left wing commentators chose to ignore his candidacy. Thankfully, millions of Americans were listening to him and the push to own hard assets like T-Bills, CD accounts, and gold are the definitive proof.
05:25 PM on 10/14/2008
Krugman is clearly wrong in is economic theories, but he did studiously criticize Bush. That's why he won!

It was an overabundance of regulation and corruption in Democrat politics which has caused the problem, not deregulation.
06:03 PM on 10/14/2008
hilarious
07:41 PM on 10/14/2008
C'mon, man. Don't stop writing just when you are about to hit us with a really funny punchline.
05:10 PM on 10/14/2008
I have great advice for anyone who wishes to be awarded a Nobel Prize. One must absolutely, positively, criticize the USA and especially Republicans! That's the key!

Nobel prizes are never awarded to anyone who promotes peace, only to those who talk about peace and badmouth the USA and conservatism and Republicans.

It is an infallible rule.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,886229,00.html
06:06 PM on 10/14/2008
right, if you are referring to krugman, note that he didnt win the prize for peace
and frankly, what has the usa done to promote peace in the last eight years deserving of praise
07:49 PM on 10/14/2008
You may "SailFree" but it must be in very shallow water.
11:52 AM on 10/14/2008
During an exit poll following the 2004 election, I was asked what was the most pressing problem for me, I answered the economy. The girl looked at me kind of funny, but the writing was on the wall then. You can't spend more than you make without consequences and here they are.
11:46 AM on 10/14/2008
Let people offset their mortgage to the bond at treasury this is a good
Solution the treasury reduces debt in benefit
And the banks get there bail out then the people get remedy

The sovereign
05:22 PM on 10/14/2008
Ernst Stavro Blofeld?
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
11:42 AM on 10/14/2008
Lyndon LaRouche is very active in Germany - he sends out newsletters but for a price.
But it is good information and he is always right. No wonder the US pursued him and charged
him. Funny, how people disappear or get ridiculed if they are right.
11:15 AM on 10/14/2008
This page is about economics not religion please.
09:53 PM on 10/13/2008
I heard Paul Krugman speak in 2004, and he was warning of an economic crisis even then. I am so pleased Krugmam was awarded a Nobel Prize today. I suspect it was another slap in the face for the present administration because Krugman has been an outspoken critic of it. I think the rest of the world is holding a collective breath over this election.

Frankly, once we became such a debtor nation (thank you George Bush) the writing was on the wall.
01:20 AM on 10/14/2008
Oh no, how horrible, a slap in the face for Bush/cheney! A shotgun blast to the face wouldn't faze those two buffoons.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
isis
I, Robot
09:39 PM on 10/13/2008
What?! You're telling me that elitist educated people saw this whole thing coming and tried to warn us? Amazing.
03:19 AM on 10/15/2008
The elitist educated people caused this.
09:12 PM on 10/13/2008
Didn't Dorgan get a sweet heart loan from Countrywide too? How can you disagree and agree at the same time. Sounds like a Kerry comment. And if you really go back, Jimmy Carter was the source of this and many other issues we are dealing with today. And if you look at 1999, then of course you have to include Bill Clinton and Robert Ruben. The administration there was all for deregulation. Paul Krugman is just a sham. He was given the Nobel Prize, which means Bush does not like him.
JRsNana
The most important things in life aren't things.
01:29 AM on 10/15/2008
Blah, blah, blah...Jimmy Carter/ Blah, blah. blah, Bill Clinton. Like the freakin' Republicans (Gramm anyone? McCain anyone? Bueller, Bueller?) don't carry one bit of blame for this mess.
Good to know you've got your talking points down though. Great job. What are you making? $10 an hour to put this crap out? Hope your soul is worth the paycheck.
03:23 AM on 10/15/2008
It was Phil Gramm, Republican, and Jim Leach, Republican, who expanded sub prime lending in their, Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act. Read the bill, it was a Republican bill.
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richmc
08:04 PM on 10/13/2008
And when it comes time to talk about budget cuts, we all need to speak up about slashig the Pentagon budget in half, putting half of that into debt relief and half into infrastructure projects. Every time they talk about social security we need to scream back at them that the Pentagon is a bloated inefficient bureucratic mess that needs to be heavily pruned. We get just as much economic stimulus from infrastructure spending as we do from guns and bombs.